Not quite edging out

June 3rd, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The headline:

edging out the car

Which makes you think more people now use public transport than vehicles.

during the seven years between census counts, the number of Aucklanders driving to work has fallen 2 per cent to 84 per cent and public transport has increased 2 per cent to 10 per cent.

Not quite edging out. I estimate that at a 2% swing every seven years, public transport will edge out the car in 133 years!

Sensible transport plans for must include both improvements to roads and to public transports.

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28 Responses to “Not quite edging out”

  1. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    According to the ivory tower promoters of Agenda 21 I’m meant to prefer sitting very close to some potential disease carrying coughing dandruff prone fat unwashed smelly foul mouthed drunken slob rather than travel in the comfort of my air conditioned car.

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  2. burt (8,199 comments) says:

    Auckland will not need roads once Mana-Dotcom get elected and go into coalition with Labour and the Green’s. Work will be illegal and the only source of legal income will be selling other peoples inventions and property without their permission. Roads will not be required as all the people of Auckland will own helicopters and live in mansions.

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  3. alex Masterley (1,507 comments) says:

    Auckland Transport have rocks in their heads.
    Public Transport in Auckland will never edge out the humble car.
    For example, I live roughly 6 k’s from my office.
    If I were to use public transport to get to and from work it would take, in combination with one 10 minute walk to get to a bus stop, about 45 minutes (excluding waiting time for a bus) each way.
    By car it is 10 minutes.

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  4. James Stephenson (2,139 comments) says:

    You’re a prime candidate for the new Kiwibike then, alex. Made from genuine high-tensile steel tubing with rod brakes and solid rubber tyres.

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  5. stephieboy (2,678 comments) says:

    Agenda 21 , Rebaiter , Glenn Beck, Fox News etc and the onslaught of hysteria and paranoia,

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Agenda_21

    as well,

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

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  6. kowtow (8,175 comments) says:

    Given Asian immigration to Auckland I’m surprised no one has suggested rickshaws.

    Culturally inclusive, sustainable, huge employment potential………win ,win.

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  7. RRM (9,774 comments) says:

    Redbaiter (6,790 comments) says:
    June 3rd, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    According to ivory tower promoters of Agenda 21 I’m meant to prefer sitting very close to some TB carrying coughing dandruff prone fat unwashed smelly slob rather than travel in the comfort of my air conditioned car.

    LOL – had a bad experience? I bet people get up and move to a different seat when you start talking politics at them.

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  8. stephieboy (2,678 comments) says:

    kowtow ,rickshaws have been tried and I understand some still operate.But there is not the population density as in many Asian cities to make them profitable.

    RRM, move to different seat .? Yes I agree but also don’t forget the bad breath factor.

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  9. OneTrack (2,979 comments) says:

    “You’re a prime candidate for the new Kiwibike then, alex. Made from genuine high-tensile steel tubing with rod brakes and solid rubber tyres.”

    But steel is mined, and we don’t allow mining.

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  10. OneTrack (2,979 comments) says:

    And the elephant in the room, which the left continue to ignore, is how many people actually work in the city these days. Ooops.

    Many more people are on the road to get where they need to go ie South Auckland, North Shore, etc. If you work in South Auckland (even Newmarket) and you live on the Shore, public transport just isn’t going to do it for you. Well not with Len’s loopy loop anyway.

    Maybe the public transport designers could, I don’t know, look out the window at the traffic and see where it is going. Going south across the bridge, when you get on the south side of the bridge, hello, left lanes into the city virtually empty. Lanes going south and west all clogged up. In other words, 19th century Len isn’t solving current problems (again).

    Maybe they could think about turning right at Britomart instead of left and extending rail under the harbour and to the shore ie full north-south connections. Then they might be achieving something. Yeah, nah. Lets have a $6 billion pink elephant to nowhere and still have the traffic problems.

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  11. Than (450 comments) says:

    rickshaws have been tried and I understand some still operate.But there is not the population density as in many Asian cities to make them profitable

    Rickshaws and tuk-tuks are a poor solution even in high population density cities – you don’t see them in Singapore or Tokyo for example, or for that matter in London or New York. They continue to exist only because they are a cheap option. Their low top speed (10-15 kph for cycle rickshaws, typically 50 kph or less for tuk-tuks) makes them a hazard and a nuisance that seriously impedes other traffic.

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  12. RightNow (6,968 comments) says:

    “Public transport edging out the car” – that’s just how buses change lanes.

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  13. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    Here it is readers, the BS the commies have signed you up to without once asking you if you’re for or against. Just one more example of rank arrogant socialist elitists pushing their own agenda at the expense of your rights.

    What we need to do in NZ-

    1) bring down the media who allowed this to happen without once drawing anyone’s attention to it. They are no longer the watchdogs of our rights, but merely the lapdogs of the self appointed socialist elite.

    2) Throw out the politicians in central and local govt who refused to defend us against this insidious and global evil and replace them with politicians who are truly representative of the people.

    3) Make sure the slimy sneaking faceless bureaucrats who pushed Agenda 21 and who buy into any BS their UN masters tell them they should are sacked and replaced by real people.

    http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/newzea/inst.htm

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  14. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    That’s quite a call to arms, Reddy.

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  15. James Stephenson (2,139 comments) says:

    But steel is mined, and we don’t allow mining.

    How else are we going to recycle all those un-used cars?

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  16. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,880 comments) says:

    I thought Kiwibike was a recently appointed press secretary?????????

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  17. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    “That’s quite a call to arms, Reddy.”

    No need to get nervous.

    It won’t have much impact on Kiwiblog’s band of Key supporters, frogs soaking comfortably in the slowly warming waters of the one party state.

    Not until the economic SHTF anyway.

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  18. dime (9,806 comments) says:

    I remember using public transport once.. circa 1990. awful experience.

    Good for sandal wearing lefty shit heads though

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  19. stephieboy (2,678 comments) says:

    Redbaiter, still up to the challenge of peeing on those stones on the Bombay hills.?,

    http://readingthemaps.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/from-redbaiter-to-duchamp.html

    Prosecution in train.?

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  20. Ed Snack (1,836 comments) says:

    Bamboo bicycles, I say bamboo is the material ! Along with carved wooden gears for the “de-luxe” model; sure they wear out but think of the employment it will generate. And we could plant huge masses of native flax at the bottom of the steeper inclines to cushion the impact as our bamboo disks disintegrate at speed. That flax could be harvested as well and teased into fibres to make eco-sensitive clothing.

    This is Win-Win-Win !

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  21. burt (8,199 comments) says:

    Ed Snack

    There will be an abundance of steel for bicycles once all construction is required to use “structural timber”. Auguably production of bicycles will be mandatory to protect the jobs of people in steel mills – because being a Labour/Green government it’s essential we change everything about the economy without a single job loss.

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  22. OneTrack (2,979 comments) says:

    burt – No problems. There are all these green jobs just waiting to be snapped up.

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  23. Left Right and Centre (2,933 comments) says:

    Misleading dumbarse headline for sure . . . but then they’re everywhere looking for maximum clickable output.

    And how many public transport users are park and rides ? They’re still using a car somewhere.

    And how many only park and ride because it’s cheaper/ faster than gridlock etc. They don’t want to take a bus or the train – hahahaha.

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  24. Scott Hamilton (298 comments) says:

    Don’t worry, stephie, I’ve got a defence prepared, should Redbaiter make good his threat and press charges:
    http://readingthemaps.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/from-redbaiter-to-duchamp.html

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  25. Gulag1917 (852 comments) says:

    Driving skills in public passenger transport need to be dramatically improved. There is the technology available now to monitor driving so it should improve.

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  26. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (871 comments) says:

    Well, bros, wait until DPF’s favourite Carbon Tax increases the price of petrol to $3/Litre. Then let us see how many travel in your air-conditioned cars. Add to that Green’s luxury tax, progressive registration fee, congestion charging….you will run for your life on a public bus…..

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  27. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    A relevant and timely tweet-

    Vanessa Wills-McKee ‏@nessleberry 6m

    STOP TRYING TO HIT ON PEOPLE ON THE BUS.

    Ain’t public transport glorious?

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  28. campit (467 comments) says:

    Sensible transport plans for Auckland must include both improvements to roads and to public transports.

    Agree! A shame the Govt hasn’t announced any new public transport initiatives in the whole time it has been in office. But a billion dollar toll road to Warkworth just 700m shorter than the existing road? Sure! Economic business case? Not required!

    Note the census, for some unfathomable reason, doesn’t include tens of thousands of students using public transport, as the journey to work question is only filled out by people travelling to a paying job. Incidentally, more than 50% of trips in the morning commute to the CBD are via public transport.

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