Obama and Key

June 22nd, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Tracy Watkins reports:

For 30 missing minutes in ’s diary, the United States president and did something unexpected.

They strolled the White House South Lawn, checked out the president’s putting green, had a squiz at Obama’s back office and First Lady Michelle Obama’s famous veggie garden, and part of the White House the family use.

The unscheduled timeout followed a 50-minute working session to discuss issues including trade – and whether a deal can be done on the Trans-Pacific Partnership – the South China Sea dispute, climate change, North Korea and Iraq.

Key’s second meeting with Obama at the Oval Office was supposed to wrap up at the end of that session. But the two leaders went for a walk instead.

“It was cool,” said Key.

Key and Obama have clearly established a rapport. They are roughly the same age, share a passion for golf and both have a bolt-hole in Hawaii where they escape with family. Last Christmas, the pair spent a day on the golf course with Key’s son Max while holidaying in Hawaii. Obama name-checked Max to the world’s media after yesterday’s meeting.

Key expects his relationship with Obama to endure beyond political life

Key has shown an extraordinary ability to forge strong personal relationships with many world leaders.  And relationships do matter, and help.

Incidentally the mention of Max was that he had a longer drive than both Obama and his father, according to Obama!

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31 Responses to “Obama and Key”

  1. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Golf, children, Hawaii holidays, enormous deficits, ever-increasing government debt….they have a lot in common alright.

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  2. hmmokrightitis (1,595 comments) says:

    If you think our economy is similar in any way to that of the US nickb, then youve been reading the wrong comic books. Obama would kill to have the US economy in the same state as NZ.

    And my first thought was cue weddy frothing at the keyboard as he rights the prog wrongs, tilting at windmills…

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  3. Grizz (610 comments) says:

    I had a look at a few comments on the stuff website. Most commentators seemed to think that this was a bad thing. Although they gave off strong jealous meta-messages.

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  4. tvb (4,501 comments) says:

    Key is looking the Prime Minister spending quality time with President Obama. David Cunliffe the pretender staring at the camera through hooded eyes lying like a flat fish.

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  5. Grizz (610 comments) says:

    @tvb. There is the contrast. One player not just meeting top US brass, but showing genuine friendship between the two. The other player covering up a gaffe and going on the defensive in front of the media. It is difficult to vote for a wet fish.

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  6. Colville (2,298 comments) says:

    Grizz. Any time Key is mentiopned on Stuff the Labour Party army of trolls come out to slag him off as Key IS Satan and Key IS the ONLY thing stopping the missing 800,000 voters all coming out and voting Cun*liffe into power in a landslide.

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  7. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    It’s just such fun watching the frothing at the mouth that the lefties do when Key grease’s into these situations.

    They try to rank him against their poster girl ( :) ) Helen….. and she comes up wanting everytime! :)

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  8. Grizz (610 comments) says:

    @Colville,
    I love this missing Million or whatever. Labour only managed to get 600,000 people who did cast their vote to vote for them. It there are a million not voters then how come Labour could not attract their vote?

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  9. Harriet (5,121 comments) says:

    NZ has nothing in common with Obama and what he preaches.

    And besides that – he’s finising his term having to rule by executive decision alone. Barry has no friends in America or abroad – and Key wants to be seen with the loser?

    Key is reading the electorate and the rest of the world wrong on this.

    Honestly – Key would get more votes, and the country better recognition, if he had a beer with Sarah Palin….or Ted Cruz ect….

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  10. Nukuleka (346 comments) says:

    Our friends over at The Standard, who are probably the same ones trolling the Stuff comments, are positively vitriolic about Key’s connection with Obama and anything to do with the US. You would think that they might have some kind of empathy with a black Democratic president, but oh no! The lefties are simply full of negativity, venom and hate even towards those who might be considered on their side of the political spectrum.

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  11. Nukuleka (346 comments) says:

    Harriet- forgive my total ignorance but who is Barry?

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  12. tom hunter (5,081 comments) says:

    I do hope that journalists and everybody else realise one core fact here:

    Obama is not a Prime Minister

    Things like the Trans-Pacific Partnership and anything the US does with Climate Change ultimately come down to what the US Senate and US House will agree to.

    Given that there’s only so much the Chief Executive can do unilaterally – and despite recent joyous cries from Radio NZ with regard to climate change announcements by Obama that’s equally true of US efforts on that front too – the whole thing about personal relationships between the two leaders is rather irrelevant in this case.

    Still, it’s funny to see the left wing ranting. I wonder what the comments will be like if Key meets a Republican president in 2017. Equally balanced hate most likely.

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  13. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    I’m a little concerned here. Ever since I noticed Cunners bore a striking resemblence to a Turtle I’ve been waiting to see if he has backup!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles

    “Leonardo (Leo/DVM) – The tactician, courageous leader and devoted student of martial arts, Leonardo wears a blue mask and wields two long and razor-sharp katanas that slice through nearly anything solid. As the oldest of the four, he bears the burden of responsibility for his brothers and sensei, which often leads to conflict with Raphael. Leonardo was named after the Italian polymath, painter, engineer, inventor, writer, anatomist, and sculptor, Leonardo da Vinci.

    Michelangelo (Mike or Mikey of HOBM) – Easy-going, fun-loving jokester, and free-spirited being, Michelangelo wears an orange mask and wields a pair of nunchakus. He is the youngest of the four Turtles, and often provides the comic relief. While he loves to relax and eat pizza, this Turtle also has an adventurous and creative side. He is something of the “surfer” boy, speaking usually in a Southern California accent. He is named after the Italian Renaissance painter, sculptor, architect, poet, and engineer, Michelangelo. His name was originally misspelled “Michaelangelo” by Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman.[8]

    Donatello (Don or Donnie the kiwi) – The scientist, inventor, engineer, and technological genius, Donatello wears a purple mask and wields a bo staff. Donatello is perhaps the least violent turtle, preferring to use his knowledge to solve conflicts, but never hesitates to defend his brothers. He is named after the early Renaissance Italian artist and sculptor from Florence, Donatello.

    Karai/Judith – A female high-rank member of the Foot Clan who has appeared in several different TMNT comics, cartoons and films, as well as in multiple video games. In some incarnations of the character, she is closely related to the Shredder as his adopted daughter or biological granddaughter. In most works, she shares an ambiguous rivalry (occasionally even bordering on romantic interest) with Leonardo.

    Devious pack of bastards :)

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  14. Harriet (5,121 comments) says:

    Barrick!

    They are quite commonly refered to as Barry and Moochelle on the right wing US blogs.

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  15. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    tom hunter says:

    Things like the Trans-Pacific Partnership and anything the US does with Climate Change ultimately should come down to what the US Senate and US House will agree to.

    Fixed that….

    Obama seems to rule by executive fiat.
    And in case of ‘Climate Change’, the EPA will bypass Congress.

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  16. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    JB

    I’ve finally been sprung. :oops:

    Was it the blue mask?

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  17. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    Harriet says:

    They are quite commonly refered [sic] to as Barry and Moochelle on the right wing US blogs.

    And by Obama himself.
    Obama used his Indonesian name Barry Soetoro when he attended Occidental.

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  18. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Thanks nursey.

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  19. tom hunter (5,081 comments) says:

    Obama seems to rule by executive fiat.
    And in case of ‘Climate Change’, the EPA will bypass Congress.

    There’s no doubt he’s trying to, but between time delays while promulgated rules are “discussed” with various industries, lawsuits wending their way through the courts, similar battles around state regulations, and the looks of terror on the faces of Red State Democrats when the EPA is discussed, I’d say this is more of a GOTV effort than anything serious.

    As far as the TPP is concerned there’s no bypassing possible at all. Obama can sign all the documents he likes but it’s the Senate that has the power over international treaties and they guard that jealously irrespective of who the President is.

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  20. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    How long have you been getting it on with Karai then Leonardo? :)

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  21. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    It’s purely platonic JB. I crave the intellectual stimulation

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  22. Harriet (5,121 comments) says:

    You are all missing the point – and probably what the NZ MSM failed to tell you all:

    Abbott was in Canada -just 10 days ago- and it was all over America that he is building a coalition to stop climate tax!!!

    With Canada, Australia, UK, India and NZ.

    Abbott is a good friend of Harper the Canadian PM – from uni days. Harper hates carbon tax as well. They announced their objection to a carbon tax when Abbott was in Canada.

    Then Abbott went to the White House – and Obama had to ASK him to put climate change on the G20 programme for Brisbane in Oct. – that’s rather telling. Obama is now using Key to divide them as NZ already has a carbon tax.

    On evidence – climate change so far is only an opinion.

    Anyway, I think it’s a case of both sides trying to lead Key.

    Key won’t say too much as carbon tax is too much of a political matter in OZ – which Abbott won the election on. Doing favours for Obama when he is very questionable – would not be a good look for Key. It’s a domestic matter anyway, as you DON’T have to trade carbon credits under any international agreement – TPP ect.

    As Mr Abbott seems to be expressing to the public:

    There are plenty of other ways to prevent so called climate change – the Greens are telling us something new every week – the markets will then just pick and choose which idea/products/service they need where the science backs up by what it produces in less carbon. Science doesn’t back up climate change itself – it only backs up the products we produce. Climate change so far is only an opinion.Products are real.

    Carbon tax is just another layer of tax on every product – and simply differs from GST – in that you can trade in the tax itself on an international market scale.

    It’s the Greens out gambling on international markets with a product that science doesn’t back up. It’s just a tax – as Mr Abbott has won the election on.

    Tax payers won’t ever allow governments or corporates gambling with tax income – based on an opinion of which science doesn’t back up – and especially the LEFT doing it!

    Money as usual talks – and no one at the G20 has any – Obama will lose. :cool:

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  23. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    @Harriet

    “There are plenty of other ways to prevent so called climate change.Climate change so far is only an opinion…….”

    That’s news to me.
    So the climate doesn’t change?

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  24. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    And I get two downticks pointing out that Obama used his Indonesian name Barry Soetoro when he attended Occidental?
    How does that work?

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  25. Don the Kiwi (1,794 comments) says:

    Don’t worryOA.

    There are a few ignoramuses (should that be ignorami ;-) ) here.

    You are correct, of course. You should team up with Johnboy and deal to ‘minus’ :-)

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  26. lurcher1948 (151 comments) says:

    I think Mr Key should swan over to communist china and cuddle up to our REAL owners and landlords.I understand some of the meg rich slits buying NZ and bribing our political parties play golf, smiling photo shoot opportunity, here i could say Key

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  27. publicwatchdog (2,811 comments) says:

    NZ Prime Minister John Key ‘the poodle of Wall Street’?

    I think so.

    Which is one of the main reasons why I’ll be standing against him in Helensville.

    The opportunity for a protest vote against this ex-Wall Street banker, proven ‘insider-trader’ (remember TranzRail?), pro-U$A lap dog /poodle – is growing by the day (in my considered opinion).

    Kiwi ‘anti-corruption Public Watchdog’ Penny Bright vs U$A Wall Street poodle John Key?

    Should be FUN!

    I’m looking forward to it – but doubt if John Key will want to front on corruption debates ……

    Penny Bright

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  28. Fentex (1,025 comments) says:

    It’s nice to have a P.M who can make such friends, but it would be folly to form policy around it. I hope Key does not make promises about trade deals in return for friendly promises of ongoing friendship, alliance and/or support.

    For such promises cannot be kept by people who will leave office, and policy must succeed long after individuals move on.

    My personal worry would be regarding the TPP which is a clear and present danger to New Zealand’s freedoms and prosperity.

    We have lowered our barriers to free trade, we should not be looking to offer more to those who haven’t. It is for others to join us, not for us to reduce our self governance as bribes to other nations that pretend to respect free trade but in reality fight ancient wars to exploit through dominance.

    We have done enough, we ought not prostrate ourselves to encourage others.

    It is bandied about, on this blog notably, that NZ is doing well, economically speaking. Better than most. And we do it as a nation that purposefully sought to open our trade. We have had no need of subsuming our interests and agreeing to restricting the freedom we bore great pain to grasp to do so.

    I think John Key does well to represent NZ’s friendship to all who accept it, presuming it is not entangled with strings and conditions, and that after he leaves office he be welcomed by future governments if he wishes to work as an envoy on our behalf.

    I hope no part of his popularity with foreign governments is bought with currency I do not wish to back.

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  29. RRM (10,009 comments) says:

    It’s not the length of the drive that counts – it’s whether it lands on the fairway…

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  30. Honeybadger (226 comments) says:

    Apart from all the politics here, I wonder, does Barack Obama also have shares in Bank of America? Do we as a country also borrow from this bank?

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  31. stephieboy (3,386 comments) says:

    Other Andy,
    “And I get two downticks pointing out that Obama used his Indonesian name Barry Soetoro when he attended Occidental?
    How does that work?”

    This could be the explanation .

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2008/12/obama-was-an-indonesian-citizen/

    Here as well,

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.asp

    Brithers are not fond of facts and some like a bit of forgery.!

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