PCE final report says no to a fracking ban

June 5th, 2014 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

The Parliamentary Commission for the Environment has published a final report on , and concluded that on all the science it should not be banned. Will the Green Party accept the science, or do as they did with GE, and ignore it?

The has a Q+A which I quote:

3. Is drilling and fracking for oil and gas safe?

The Commissioner has found no evidence of major environmental problems from onshore oil and gas drilling in New Zealand. The risks of a major problem are low, if best practice is used. If not, the risk is greater and can cause serious environmental damage. It is therefore essential that New Zealand’s laws and regulatory agencies are adequate.

No evidence. I repeat, no evidence.

5. Why hasn’t the Commissioner recommended a moratorium?

The Commissioner has identified a number of problems that need to be fixed by Government and councils. The Commissioner has found that a moratorium is not justified because New Zealand has laws in place that can be used to prepare for a rapid expansion of the industry.

No moratorium needed.

So what do the Greens say:

“The Green Party is calling on the Government to take a safety-first approach and put a halt on fracking. 

They were probably against the wheel being invented also, if they were around then.

Now let’s be clear. The PCE has very usefully identified six areas where better regulation is needed. That’s exactly where the debate should be – getting the regulation right. But the Greens don’t care about getting the balance right. They will never ever support fracking, mining or drilling because it is against their near religious world view that Gaia must be left alone.

So what did the PCE recommend:

  1. Providing national direction
  2. Improving regional council plans
  3. Assessing well integrity to protect the environment
  4. Paying when something goes wrong
  5. Enforcing the controls on hazardous substances
  6. Dealing with solid waste from oil and gas wells

 

 

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17 Responses to “PCE final report says no to a fracking ban”

  1. David Garrett (6,905 comments) says:

    Coming on top of the 1080 report in which the PCE said 1080 was not only harmless to any organisms other than possums, but that we should be using much more of it, this will lead to further aspersions on Dr Wright’s credibility with the Greens. Incidentally a middle aged Green of my acquaintance is thoroughly in favour of feeding what she calls the “Australian invaders” 1080 – it is apparently the younger Greens who mostly have a problem with it.

    But back to fracking. The recommendations set out above are of course eminently sensible, and one cannot argue with them.

    DPF is quite right: the Greens will NEVER be happy with fracking – or with oil exploration and production generally – not only because it violates Gaia’s person, but because the end product leads to gobal warming….which we could do with a bit more of out here in the rural sector this morning.

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  2. alloytoo (518 comments) says:

    Green policies result in increased pollution and are detrimental to endangered wildlife.

    Greens object to proven clean technologies and practices.

    Greens promote maritime piracy and sabotage.

    Greens indulge in economic sabotage.

    Why do we tolerate these cuckoos?

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  3. Nick R (502 comments) says:

    DPF, you are fomenting happy mischief about the Greens here. I am pretty sure they have said they they are not against the use of the wheel as such, they only want its use restricted until it has been conclusively proved to be safe.

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  4. Ross12 (1,364 comments) says:

    The PCE have spent a huge amount of time on this –the interim report came out well over a year ago , maybe closer to 2 years.
    So my guess is they have tried very hard to appease thier mates in the Greens but they haven’t been able to find anything. It should not be a surprise — other reviews overseas ( eg. UK ) have not found anything wrong with the practice either. Even the EPA in the USA has said in the past, they have not found any evidence of water contamination as the result of fracking.

    The recommendations from the report are fair enough and really are ” tidying up of the wording” of regs to exercises.

    But the anti development Greens will try to distort the reports findings.
    Yesterday a Greenpeace was saying the whole O&G industry should be banned.

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  5. Komata (1,157 comments) says:

    FWIW: On Red Radio’s 0600 news the emphasis was ‘The PCE says fracking should be banned’.

    Evidently they subscribe to the ‘Truth and accuracy should never get in the way of a good story’ school of journalism.

    Should we be surprised….?

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  6. OneTrack (2,959 comments) says:

    “Yesterday a Greenpeace was saying the whole O&G industry should be banned.”

    Well I think Greenpeace should be banned.

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  7. OneTrack (2,959 comments) says:

    “On Red Radio’s 0600 news the emphasis was ‘The PCE says fracking should be banned’.”

    Can someone explain why my taxes should go to support the marketing arm of the Green and Labour parties?

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  8. backster (2,135 comments) says:

    The summations I heard seem to be heavy on recommending greater powers for local government. God help us! they are mostly greenies with surnames starting above the letter G. Their powers should be restrained where-ever possible.

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  9. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    ‘On Red Radio’s 0600 news the emphasis was ‘The PCE says fracking should be banned’’
    I must have missed that on Morning Report and funnily enough it says nothing of the sort on the RadioNZ website.

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  10. Redbaiter (8,226 comments) says:

    The oil industry are cowards and deserve everything they get.

    Until they develop the spine to actually fight back against Green/ Watermelon propaganda and political strategy they get no support from me.

    Especially, hiring left wing activists to work for their representative association is completely clueless, and whoever is responsible for this act needs to be fired. http://www.pepanz.com/about/about-us/staff/

    PEPANZ are a collection of useless suckholing yellowbacks completely cowed by the left wing offensive against one of civilisation’s major economic components- oil & gas. PEPANZ needs to get real or explorers need to find a more representative organisation.

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  11. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    NZ should be at the forefront of “best practice” and if we don’t have all that sorted out already we should get a move on with it.

    Then drill baby, drill.

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  12. PaulP (144 comments) says:

    Thank goodness for oil and gas – at least it saved the whales.

    If we had continued burning whale blubber for light and heat they’d all be gone by now!

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  13. Fentex (912 comments) says:

    No evidence. I repeat, no evidence.

    regarding

    The Commissioner has found no evidence of major environmental problems from onshore oil and gas drilling in New Zealand.

    does not abrogate

    The risks of a major problem are low, if best practice is used. If not, the risk is greater and can cause serious environmental damage. It is therefore essential that New Zealand’s laws and regulatory agencies are adequate.

    It is non-sequitor to argue lack of evidence of past harm contradicts an argument care must be taken in the future.

    The Greens may go too far in insisting on an absolute safety first, apparently refusing every risk to forgo any benefits, but their follies are not grants to make mistakes in the opposite direction.

    To argue sufficient safeguards are in place requires demonstrating such. Merely pooh poohing any and everyone’s observation they are required is not convincing of concern such safeguards actually exist.

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  14. Paulus (2,586 comments) says:

    It appears that Wright has changed her mind from the draft report presumably under Gaia’s pressure.
    Easy abolish the PCE and lets get New Zealand moving – not being delayed by selfish Greenies.

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  15. Ross12 (1,364 comments) says:

    fentex

    Fracking has been going on in Taranaki for 20 years with no issues. Is that enough evidence for you ?

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  16. Fentex (912 comments) says:

    THe point is already made that when asked to investigate the Parliamentary Commission for the Environment has reported…

    The Commissioner has found no evidence of major environmental problems from onshore oil and gas drilling in New Zealand

    I’ve no reason to dispute it.

    It does not follow however that this proves NZ’s laws and regulatory agencies are adequate for any new drilling for gas or oil reserves. We do not, for example, have deep sea oil wells with a proven history. If explorers were to find promising sites it would be erroneous to presume because fracking occurs in some parts of NZ we are properly prepared to regulate deep sea drilling.

    And argument to establish that should be about the regulation itself, not apparent success of past, disparate, operations.

    It also behooves people who wish to convince others that the success in avoiding trouble is due to good regulation to make the connection and not just rest on the laurels of absence of disaster. That risks tragedy through complacency.

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  17. wiseowl (857 comments) says:

    It was a concern to hear the PCE say that she was concerned about drilling in areas where there were aquifers and mentioned Hawkes Bay.

    The fact is if you drill into a confined aquifer you cannot contaminate it because it is under pressure.The forces are acting against anything going in. They also put a 12 inch concrete protection around the hole.

    Greens just don’t get it.

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