Public transport is for everyone else, not us!

June 25th, 2014 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

First it was the mayor catching the train while being followed by his ratepayer-funded chauffeur-driven car.

Now, Len Brown’s staff have been riding in special shuttles zipping around Auckland – apparently because it’s faster than the public transport they provide to ratepayers.

Oh they are far too important to catch public transport. Public transport is for everyone else to use, to leave the roads free for the elite!

It reminds me of interviewing Green MP Sue Kedgley a few years ago. She spent most of the interview going on about the importance of public transport. I then askeed her how she was enjoying using the Snapper card, and she said she didn’t have one – it was obvious she never actually used buses herself much!

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31 Responses to “Public transport is for everyone else, not us!”

  1. mikemikemikemike (308 comments) says:

    Read this this morning….pretty appalling. AT are like a rebel department all on their own. I am currently fighting their overly bureaucratic approach to everything literally as I type this….

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  2. Alan (1,056 comments) says:

    No post attacking Labours tax policy?

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  3. Rich Prick (1,538 comments) says:

    No Alan. We’re all waiting for the final version.

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  4. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Epitomises the indulgent and fiscally irresponsible behaviour of a Lecher with ratepayers’ money. Why is it, in both local, and central government, these left-wing leeches can’t help themselves, and become spendthrift mongrels. Is it because they never had the ability to make any themselves, it being a real buzz to have some on tap!.

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  5. burt (7,797 comments) says:

    Classic socialist sense of entitlement. While the plebs queue for bread and toilet paper the leaders dine on caviar.

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  6. anticorruptionnz (159 comments) says:

    I am not surprised that they dont want to catch public transport I had occasion to catch a bus a few weeks ago .The automated sign at the stop showed the arriving in 6 minutes. There was a string of buses pulled up hard against each other , nose to tail and as the first one pulled out I saw that the second bus was my bus. the driver just looked at me closed the door and hit the pedal pulling away 6 minutes early ( as confirmed by the time table )

    I was at the stop the bus was early but could not identify the route on the side of the bus , the front signage was totally concealed .

    Some how you would think that if there is an electronic board that it would at least be accurate and you do expect buses to run according to time table or is there a margin of error of 10 minutes either way ?

    Logic and common sense would make a difference and so would buses running to schedule. Hong Kong can run buses like clockwork and they have way more congestion .

    I walked back in the rain was quicker and more reliable than the bus. I now know why I we use our cars so much . reliability

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  7. peterwn (3,148 comments) says:

    Idiot! She should at least have purchased one.

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  8. coge (176 comments) says:

    I agree wholeheartedly. Public transport is for other people!

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  9. Captain Pugwash (89 comments) says:

    In the long run, the shuttle or taxi, may be more efficient. The employer does not pay for your travel to and from work, but they pay for your time in between. So they pay for you to walk to the bus stop/train station, wait for bus/train, travel to destination, including stops on the way, then walk to destination. This could easily take an hour each way, time for which the employer is paying for.

    Public transport may well be cheaper, only if the additional time walking to and from bus stop/train station, and longer travel times isn’t taken into account. Other companies have tried this before, one company’s rule of thumb was if it was more that a 15min walk than a taxi was cheaper, especially if there was two or more people going.

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  10. RRM (9,435 comments) says:

    The DHB used to have its own shuttles going back and forth between the main hospital campus and Greenlane too.

    If you have a large number of staff and your operation is spread across two or three sites, it probably IS going to be more efficient to have your own fulltime shuttle than use public transport that is – by its very definition – meant to be all things to all people, and will therefore take a pretty roundabout route between your two sites. leaving your expensive staff sitting on the bus while they’re on the clock.

    I don’t believe this is a very good example of the hypocrisy of the left…

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  11. Rick Rowling (801 comments) says:

    To be fair, they’re talking about getting to meetings during the day (IIRC), and I doubt there would be any business anywhere in the country that sends it’s staff to meetings by bus or train.

    Certainly everywhere I’ve worked (all private sector) we’ve had pool cars – a step up from shuttles.

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  12. David Garrett (6,350 comments) says:

    I find the “right” attitude to public transport a bit odd…I far prefer sitting in a bus reading the paper than doing stop-start 5kph stuff on the motorway next door… and then paying through the nose for parking…but then it might just be that I am lucky having the Northern Busway to take out here…

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  13. srylands (386 comments) says:

    On a related topic, there seems to very limited demand for carpooling. The Government has set up this site to promote carpooling:

    http://www.letscarpool.govt.nz/

    It has the typical signs of an underused website – ancient advertisements, forgotten and unanswered.

    I commute by car from the Kapiti Coast to Wellington each day. I had this idea that I could give someone a lift, charge them (say) 50% of the train fare, and offset my petrol costs. So I advertised here. After three months, not a single inquiry. Maybe The Standard has organised a boycott of me :-)

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  14. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    They’re sending a message that trains just aren’t good enough, even when the service is almost door to door since AT have offices close to stations at each end. So they have a shuttle bus to make up for the deficiencies in the rail service. The general public don’t have access to a shuttle bus, so they use their own cars to make up for deficiencies in the rail service.

    PR fail!!!

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  15. Longknives (4,414 comments) says:

    Hah! Sue Kedgley
    Last I recall she had failed in her efforts to ban the Sausage Sizzle and was concentrating her efforts on banning cellphones….
    Green=Fruitcake

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  16. anticorruptionnz (159 comments) says:

    In the 80′s we had all this land next to rail ways , we sold it to developers . Now we have railway stations with no bus connection and no where to park, trains which dont know what a time table is so Duh why dont people use them ?

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  17. David Garrett (6,350 comments) says:

    Knives: I believe Ms Kedgley also drove a gas guzzling, Gaia hurting V8 Range Rover at one time…the media got hold of it and she quickly sold it I believe…

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  18. Manolo (13,339 comments) says:

    The same Sue Kedgley, Green resident of Oriental Bay, the poshest place in Wellington, who only consumes fine champagne and caviar. The masses can get stuffed.

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  19. Daniel (170 comments) says:

    So Auckland Council won’t use public services because they are slow and inefficient, but ratepayers should use it because…..?

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  20. Lance (2,442 comments) says:

    Just beware the commuter trains are owned by KiwiRail, funded by Auckland Transport but run by TransDev.
    TransDev employees use the trains, no special shuttles.

    TransDev is a foreign company know for their management of services like trains, busses and ferries.

    Very interesting how all this meshes together and who the fools are.

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  21. polemic (360 comments) says:

    Oh thats the same reason Greenpeace want to stop planes spewing out climate destroying carbon etc but that only applies to others not themselves…….

    The Hague (AFP) – Anti-carbon advocate Greenpeace has grounded flights for a top official after a media report fingered him for commuting by plane between his Luxembourg home and its Amsterdam-based headquarters, a spokesman said on Tuesday.

    A storm erupted Monday when British-based The Guardian newspaper revealed that Greenpeace’s number two, Pascal Husting, opted to fly the 400 kilometres (250 miles) between work and home twice a month, rather than drive or take the train.

    Greenpeace is a strong advocate against carbon dioxide emissions, including that resulting from air travel. It regularly urges airlines to end needless short-haul routes.

    “He will no longer fly to get to Amsterdam. He’s now travelling by train,” Greenpeace spokesman Mike Townsley told AFP.

    Like all ideologists it is to be applied to everyone except if it doesnt suit….

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  22. Ehlana (3 comments) says:

    So the Herald says they spent $122,000 for a six month trial. IRD’s reimbursement rate for staff mileage claims is 77c per km. Google Maps says it is 16.7km from Auckland Council Henderson to Britomart. $122,000 would reimburse over 4700 round trips. If the Council staff only travel on week days that are not public holidays, that’s about 38 round trips a day over six months.

    Do they really need to make so many?

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  23. Yogibear (280 comments) says:

    The problem is actually the stupidity of putting these guys out in Henderson in the first place when a good chunk of their staff have to regularly go to meetings in the CBD.

    I know of good, capable people who have turned down roles with Auckland Transport purely because of location.

    Not an excuse for the shuttle bus – they should be setting an example – but it was a pretty moronic location choice.

    As far as setting an example, I know Aunty Annette when she was Minister of Transport often brandished her bus pass and was well-known for annoying the commuters on the Number 2 in from Miramar. It was, in part, self interest in terms of communing with the voters, but it was also a pretty fast way of knocking the wind out of people lecturing her on public transport.

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  24. Crusader (276 comments) says:

    Greenpeace executive flies 250 miles to work.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/10920198/Greenpeace-executive-flies-250-miles-to-work.html
    And this is in Europe, where the train system is high speed and efficient.
    If even Greenpeace can’t manage to use public transport in the best set-up place in the world, how the hell do the enormous hypocrites expect the rest of us to do so?

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  25. Rich Prick (1,538 comments) says:

    To be fair Auckland Council did inherit that glass edifice from the old Waitakere City Council’s last stab at pissing ratepayer’s money against a wall. It looks like a Hilton, so it probably deserves a chauffeur service to its front door.

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  26. artemisia (207 comments) says:

    It is often not necessary for staff to attend meetings in person. They should be dialling in to an audioconferencing bridge. Or videoconferencing if set up. Even the person running the meeting can dial in. Which is what large corporates / multinationals do. All the time.

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  27. Floyd60 (87 comments) says:

    It seems that there is no express service offered by AT at the moment. This means that there was no AT product available. When the service is fully rolled out some express services will be available.

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  28. lazza (358 comments) says:

    AT shuttle V Bus … Another! example … (Geez lest any more of them actually be needed) … to demonstrate Auckland Council’s arrogance including a stunning lack of awareness and detachment from reality, includes:

    its breathtaking hubris,

    its, “we are above you plebian mere mortals” and best practice,

    “we make our own rules” and

    “we do what WE! like” and

    “you sorry-arsed ratepayers can go f*ck yourselves”.

    Do I make my point?

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  29. Surely Knott (7 comments) says:

    To Be Fair Rich Prick, if there was a rail link then the train from Henderson would be as fast as a shuttle. Andwhile it does look out of place in Henderson , as there is no other architecture of that standard, the question is why haven’t we been able to attract some other office towers like Takapuna? There needs to be a push to improve business in Henderson and the Transport services is an important part of the economy there. And we need all the help we can get! Perhaps the rest of Auckland Council should relocate to Henderson. Give a much needed boost to the West Auckland Economy, Huge cost savings on transport costs, Massive rent and parking savings, Helps traffic by providing local jobs. It’s what they did in the uk move gov processing services out of london. Free up high value central realestate.

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  30. Left Right and Centre (2,819 comments) says:

    srylands – brilliant. You keep persisting until you get someone. Keep going, keep going, keep going.

    Possible – drop the price a bit or a lot. Stalk Waikanae / Pram stations or whichever one you’re near. Find and target your market. They are there on the platform.

    And a car has three or four seats – far out !! It could be you and three or four passengers – wow, how cool would that be ?

    You could fill up the car with people just on principle for the fun of it. Or recoup as much as you can of petrol cost. If it was me – two passengers would really offset fuel cost. I’d probably be happy with a modest contribution from each. Probably – haha. Imagine having a nine or thirteen seat people mover and filling it – now you’re talking. Offset 100% of vehicle cost !!

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  31. Left Right and Centre (2,819 comments) says:

    I don’t have a problem with the work shuttles.

    Everyone doing the same thing mindlessly whether it’s a good idea or not is socialism, isn’t it? – which people on here *hate* – so why on earth would those same people cry hypocrisy ? Makes no sense to me at all.

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