Thinking about the $5 million bounty

June 9th, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

is offering $5 million to anyone who can help him with his extradition case. …

The German internet mogul and founder of the Internet Party is now offering $5 million to anyone who can prove government corruption over the handling of his case. 

“We are asking for information that proves unlawful or corrupt conduct by the US government, the New Zealand government, spy agencies, law enforcement and Hollywood”, Dotcom told website Torrentfreak.com.

Now thinking about this, doesn’t the act of offering $5 million for proof of his pet conspiracy theory, not imply that he currently has – well no proof at all.

The extradition hearing is next month. No doubt he will try and get it delayed until there is a Government he has helped fund in place. But regardless, why offer the bounty at such a late stage?

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38 Responses to “Thinking about the $5 million bounty”

  1. alex Masterley (1,490 comments) says:

    One word paranoia.
    I think that he doesn’t like the look of orange onezies.

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  2. Lucia Maria (2,206 comments) says:

    There might be people willing to make stuff up just to get a hold of money like that. I don’t know how feasible that would be, but if anyone comes forward with access to official information that helps Dotcom in that way, what ever it was would have to be treated as potentially false. We’re getting into dangerous territory here – the sooner Dotcom is extradited, the better.

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  3. RF (1,263 comments) says:

    I DotCrim is stocking up on KY Jelly. I hear they love fat chubby boys in US prisons.

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  4. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (785 comments) says:

    I get a feeling that FatCon knows his game is up…..Unless he manipulates even our court systems, he has to go….

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  5. Manolo (13,339 comments) says:

    KDC’s loyal minion employee, Mr G Edgeler, will be busy, very busy.

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  6. radvad (661 comments) says:

    So he is prepared to pay for evidence favourable to his cause? As Lucia says this could easily result in a manufactured story. Does this not give John Banks grounds for an appeal, especially given the glaring contradictions between his evidence and the evidence of those supporting him.

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  7. Ross12 (1,147 comments) says:

    Given this

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/24194365/talks-ordered-on-dotcom-assets-freeze/

    can someone please explain where Dotcom is getting his money from for this offer and the Internet Party.

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  8. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Ross12>can someone please explain where Dotcom is getting his money from for this offer and the Internet Party.

    Selling his valuable Nazi collectibles?

    Which means that the Internet Party might be the first NZ party to be indirectly financed by Adolf Hitler.

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  9. stephieboy (2,157 comments) says:

    I think this post from Trade Me on the subject takes the cake,

    “Krim Dot Com thinks money will buy anything he wants – well I believe he is in for a huge shock! Do they make orange overalls in his size? “

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  10. Nookin (3,034 comments) says:

    So, its at least $8,500,000 and rising. He must have huge confidence in the strength of his defence.

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  11. fernglas (100 comments) says:

    His assets were and remain frozen. He has to go to Court to get living expenses. Where is this $5mill to come from? The same place as the $3mill for his party?
    If it’s his money, then there is a good chance it is the proceeds of crime. Anyone dealing with it is at risk of committing the crime of money-laundering. Politicians are not above the law, any more than whistleblowers.

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  12. stephieboy (2,157 comments) says:

    Don’t all of us get the ever so faint suspicion that the clown can somehow buy himself out of his extradition .?

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  13. I Say Look Here (35 comments) says:

    And again the question arises, what will the New Zealand electorate make of all this? Sure you can fool some of the people….

    With every squirm he sinks deeper.

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  14. Dean Papa (712 comments) says:

    So Sir Johnny Key had never heard of Dotcom until those raids in Jan 2012. Are we to assume then that neither Sir Johnny, or any of his lackeys bother to read the newspapers?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10697221

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10639425

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10626044

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10698723

    [DPF: fuck you're desperate. Because someone has been mentioned in the media a couple of times, you think the PM will know about him.]

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  15. rangitoto (193 comments) says:

    “His assets were and remain frozen. He has to go to Court to get living expenses. Where is this $5mill to come from? The same place as the $3mill for his party?”

    I recall he has sold shares in his new company “Mega”. The asset freeze wouldn’t apply to that as it was established afterwards.

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  16. burt (7,797 comments) says:

    Dean

    You are wise to stay on the right side of Dotcom, many here may one day wish that had never waded into a slanging match against him.

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  17. Nigel Kearney (864 comments) says:

    KDC’s loyal minion employee, Mr G Edgeler, will be busy, very busy.

    The parallels with Despicable Me are increasing all the time, though in the movie the fat bad guy with the big house ended up actually caring about the geeky minions by the end.

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  18. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Dean Papa>Are we to assume then that neither Sir Johnny, or any of his lackeys bother to read the newspapers?

    Daily schedule for John Key:

    07:00-08:00: Intelligence and security briefing.
    08:00-10:00: Pass some laws.
    10:00-11:00: Ring Obama or the Queen or someone.
    11:00-13:00: Cabinet meeting.
    13:00-14:00: Recreational time, also referred to as Question Time.
    14:00-20:00: Read papers, make big decisions, try and improve the country.
    20:00-21:00: Meal break.
    21:00-23:00: Background reading ready for next day.
    23:00-24:00: Read gossipy bits of newspaper, making notes about people paying for fireworks or buying big houses. Because years later, not paying attention to that sort of trivia might be the smoking gun that shows you actually HAD heard of a fraud suspect before his arrest.

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  19. Tarquin North (122 comments) says:

    I think the fat krauts card house is getting a bit unstable. Might as well try to put a heavy one on top and try to set up the next player. Hopefully the whole lot will fall on Hone and co.

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  20. Pete George (22,781 comments) says:

    Dean Papa – there’s no evidence (in public) that Key knew of him beforehand. Dotcom has promised to prove Key wrong, I wonder if he will offer a bounty to get evidence.

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  21. hmmokrightitis (1,507 comments) says:

    My understanding of the extradition process was that a decision and action would happen before the election. Dont know if thats the case, but someone here may know?

    If the rotund German is extradited pre-election, youd have to think that at the very least this already bloody interesting election would become the popcorn event of the century :)

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  22. Nostalgia-NZ (4,902 comments) says:

    The Crown from time to time offer rewards, immunity from prosecution in return for information leading to convictions – this could simply be the reverse of that. It could even be the ‘channel’ for introducing such evidence that DC may already be aware of. Alternatively, it could be seen by DC as the opportunity to seek a delay in next month’s hearing on the basis of any contact made. If there is any genuine contact it will of course be from somebody immediately discredited by the DC ‘fans.’ Whatever the situation is, the amount of money is likely to generate some serious interest somewhere, perhaps from an ex insider.

    I’ve always been interested in the identities of the other individuals shown to the PM by on the montage of photos when he was briefed in advance of the raid I think it was from memory, the comments made about it later, and whether it was released to DC through the OIA.

    Another point is that the supposed count of 8 million (the reward and the donations) might have gone a reasonable distance in an offer to settle with the Hollywood moguls. Maybe a movie is in order from which both parties can profit handsomely. To this point a lot of the ‘facts’ (no offence intended to JB) are bizarre enough for a script along the lines of Austin Powers. As phil might have said ‘what a laff.’

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  23. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    Nostalgia:

    Interesting points however i disagree with the last paragraph ($8M is chump change to what the claimants are seeking).

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  24. Dean Papa (712 comments) says:

    So Sir Johnny Key had absolutely no interest in knowing who this multi-millionaire hacker was who had just bought the most expensive house in NZ? How unusually incurious!!!

    [DPF: And now you're getting more hysterical. He owns the richest house in NZ - the PM must have heard all about him.

    Is that really your argument? I mean a five year old could do better than that]

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  25. Pete George (22,781 comments) says:

    Dean Papa – how would he be curious if he didn’t know anything about him?

    Dotcom hasn’t bought the house, he rents it.

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  26. Nostalgia-NZ (4,902 comments) says:

    mike tan, yes ‘chump change’ for sure – but that doesn’t account for the anticipated ‘inflation’ of the amounts and charges in order to make a plea bargain possibility. From what I’ve read here and else where, innocent parties have agreed to plea bargains in the States because they can’t afford to find a way out by disproving charges faced – right up to and including capital crimes.. Ensuring that offers were being made and negotiated is probably being run along side DC defence, at least I’d be surprised if it wasn’t. That would potentially give him an opportunity here as well, to be able push that a reasonable offer deal was on the table and that the ‘moguls’ were being unreasonable in response to the point that extradition should be decided in his favour. On the other hand a ‘settlement’ seems to be the modern preference in our Courts at least, it’s likely to be some years (and fishing) before all aspects of this case have reached the Supreme Court.

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  27. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Dean Papa>So Sir Johnny Key had absolutely no interest in knowing who this multi-millionaire hacker was who had just bought the most expensive house in NZ? How unusually incurious!!!

    People you’d expect to be interested in somebody renting a big house: The gossip columnist for the Herald. Metro magazine. Woman’s Day readers. Winston Peters. Interior decorators. The landlord of the big house. Green and Labour MPs who are all hopeless gossips. Dean Papa.

    People you wouldn’t expect to be interested in somebody renting a big house: The Prime Minister. Anyone else in the country who actually has a life.

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  28. Rex Widerstrom (5,254 comments) says:

    If anyone with an understanding of US law is reading, could they enlighten me as to whether Wong Sun v. United States, 371 U.S. 471 (1963) has ever been held to apply to evidence obtained offshore, by a LEA of a foreign government?

    If not, then not only has Dotcom got to obtain evidence of corrupt practice, he has to successfully argue that it constitutes fruit of the poisonous tree even though those who collected it were not, and are not, subject to US common law. That seems to me to be an unlikely outcome. The US has a track record of exempting people from legal protections (e.g. terrorists tried on US soil) without much in the way of domestic backlash.

    If he’s relying on the tainted fruit doctrine to get him out of trouble, I think he’s in for a shock.

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  29. Viking2 (11,125 comments) says:

    People you wouldn’t expect to be interested in somebody renting a big house: The Prime Minister. Anyone else in the country who actually has a life.

    ===========================
    Even though was plum in the middle of his own electorate, even though he had more money the himself, even though his Ministers and Banks knew who he was. Even though Len and Sky knew who he was. Even though he paid quite publicly for a fireworks display.
    Even though many of us who read the daily news knew who he was, even though all the worlds gamers knew who he was.

    Yeah Right from the TUI Man.

    Statisically the odds would have been extremely low.

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  30. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (785 comments) says:

    Here is an idea for Dean Papa!!!

    Papa don’t preach. Show those links to DotCon. He could give you $5M……..

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  31. lolitasbrother (470 comments) says:

    how you feeling now Laile, talking out of your sideways mouth

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  32. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    This must border on interference with a host nation’s political and legal systems. Come on NZ, this fat criminal slug is not wanted, and not needed. Time a Globemaster called and took him away.

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  33. lifesgood (9 comments) says:

    That idiot Dean Papa’s still on here???!!!

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  34. Interested (19 comments) says:

    Gawd, and Labour will not rule him out of a coalition…. Puts labour in same basket as Dotty.

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  35. ross411 (220 comments) says:

    Who cares. I hope it works out for him.

    As little as I respect him by this point, the original raid and FBI involvement stunk. That shit shouldn’t fly.

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  36. burt (7,797 comments) says:

    Is there such a charge as inciting disclosure of state secrets ?

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  37. Mobile Michael (411 comments) says:

    And the paper today is full of breaking news for the conspiracy behind Dotcon’s arrest. The reward, being more than a lifetime salary for a government clerk, has enticed a confession.

    Wait, no. Perhaps Section 105 (2) of the Crimes Act would apply to Herr Dotcom.

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  38. Dead Earnest (91 comments) says:

    Good Point Mobile Mike. Krim Dotcom’s potential money hungry accomplices should carefully read below!

    105A Corrupt use of official information
    Every official is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who, whether within New Zealand or elsewhere, corruptly uses or discloses any information, acquired by him or her in his or her official capacity, to obtain, directly or indirectly, an advantage or a pecuniary gain for himself or herself or any other person.

    105B Use or disclosure of personal information disclosed in breach of section 105A
    (1) Every person is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who,—

    (a) having received personal information (being information that comes into that person’s possession as a result of the commission of an offence against section 105A); and

    (b) knowing that the information has been disclosed in contravention of that section,—

    uses or discloses that information to obtain, directly or indirectly, an advantage or pecuniary gain for that person or any other person.

    (2) It is a defence to a charge under this section if the person charged proves that the person was legally authorised to use or disclose the information.

    (3) In this section, the term personal information means any information about an identifiable natural person, including a deceased natural person.

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