Why didn’t he just cut his hair?

June 13th, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

A hero schoolboy is heading to court in a rare legal fight after he was suspended from college because his hair is too long.

Lucan Battison, 16, who received a bravery award in April for helping to save two women from drowning, was suspended from St John’s College in Hastings just a month later after being told he needed a haircut.

His father, Troy, has gone to the High Court seeking an urgent judicial review of the school’s decision. The case is likely to be heard later this month and principal Paul Melloy and the board of trustees will defend their actions.

When contacted yesterday, Troy Battison referred questions to lawyer Jol Bates, who said legal proceedings were “very much a last resort”, and the family wanted to get Lucan back to school as soon as possible.

So why doesn’t he just cut his hair?

Alternatively enrol in a school that doesn’t have a policy on hair length.

But if you choose to go to an integrated school (which is a choice, no one is zoned for it), then you have to accept their rules. If you don’t like them, then choose a school without a rule on hair length.

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  4. Ed Snack (1,883 comments) says:

    I entirely agree with David, although this is very much a teenager “thing”.

    Which is more important, your hair “just as it IS”; or your education at that school ? Schools get over themselves, on the contrary, schoolboys need to get over themselves being the centre of the known universe and that any rational being really admires them for having long hair. When he leaves school he can grow it as long as he likes.

    And I speak as a parent who had exactly the same situation when my oldest boy was pinged at school for having his hair too long, he was down having a haircut to an acceptable length immediately. He’s since left school and insists on growing his hair even longer, fine, that his choice and cost (hair shampoo and a new hair-dryer).

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  5. Doc (91 comments) says:

    The kid is a hero.

    So what?

    Do hero’s not have to stop at red lights? Do they not have to pay their taxes? What other rules do hero’s not have to abide by?

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  6. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    A hero?
    Expel the bastard, I reckon. The school has rules, so he can abide by them or fuck off.

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  7. Nigel Kearney (1,019 comments) says:

    The kid is a hero. The school is a refuge of the terminally bewildered …

    Yes, once you save someone from drowning you are exempt from any rules about hair length for a period of three years. I thought everyone knew that. Five years if you carry someone out of a burning building. He also doesn’t have to pull his socks up if he doesn’t want to and can eat during class every second Friday.

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  8. noj (28 comments) says:

    When people look at why some integrated schools are successful they often miss bits like this. They chose to send him to this school, probably because of the values that they instil and the education provided. What they missed is that all the rules even the silly ones are how they build their values and set their expectations.

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  9. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    The parents have too much money and no brains.

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  10. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    he got the boot for having hair that short? what a bunch of wankers.

    i can just imagine some teacher whacking off at night. oh the thrill of power! he made a kid get a hair cut.

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  12. jp_1983 (213 comments) says:

    No the crock is the father of the son running off to the High Court, wasting valuable time over this vexatious issues.
    I hope the High Court Judge rules in favor of the school and makes the father pay the costs.
    That would be a valuable lesson for all concerned.

    He choose to go to the integrated school, those are the rules.

    Just like I cant join a woman’s gym those are their rules.

    *edit changed for grammar,
    father pay costs

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  13. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    Heh, again, 44 years after half Hamilton Boys High 5F1 was suspended following a protest against hair length regulations.

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  14. peterwn (3,275 comments) says:

    Well, lots of freedom, respect for their ‘human rights’, etc did not help a 13yo and 12yo in Auckland the other day, nor society at large.

    An more immediate problem that would cause the school concern – nits.

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  15. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    A haircut is too subjective though. What was offensive about it and who gets to decide? Personally I don’t like hairy arm pitted woman, I’m certainly not going to (and shouldn’t be able to) fire a woman if it was her choice to become more hirsute.

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  16. SGA (1,069 comments) says:

    jp_1983 at 1:31 pm

    He choose to go to the integrated school, those are the rules.

    Which I’m 99% sure that the father and son knew when they “signed up” (probably literally signed).
    I’ve heard parents complain about the religious studies and chapel attendance at their child’s Anglican/Pressbutton/RC integrated school. Go figure.

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  17. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    One of the things I liked about my kids’ high school was it doesn’t go in for this kind of authoritarian bullshit, which is intended both to indulge the self-importance of the school’s administrators and to instill a blind acceptance of pointless and stupid regulations in the pupils.

    Thing is, if I had been dumb enough to send them to a school that thinks education involves quibbling about haircuts or school uniform specifications, I surely still wouldn’t be so moronic as to take the school to court for enforcing its own rules I agreed to when I sent my kid there. This is an odd story.

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  18. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    If the kid doesn’t like conforming to the school rules / the school standards, then he should stop bleating and whingeing and get Dad to enrol him somewhere else….. at a school where he can have his hair just as long as his sister’s for as long as his little heart desires. Sorted.

    Pathetic that Dad decided to run off to Court. I won’t mind one little bit if he gets his arse handed to him on a plate.

    Equally pathetic our MSM saw fit to give this ‘story’ some oxygen.

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  19. Nukuleka (332 comments) says:

    Poor wee diddums having to do what he is told to do at school. Just as well he has a nice Mummy and Daddy who allow him to do whatsoever he wants at home.

    And we all express such shock horror when 12 and 13 year olds are involved in a senseless killing in West Auckland.

    We reap what we sow.

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  20. macdee (42 comments) says:

    This situation needs to be put in context, the school caters for a good number of boys from the lower socio economic areas of Napier and Hastings, it provides them with a stable and safe environment, a set of values that they can take on into their adult life and excellent academic and sporting opportunities. Why should these principles be jeopardised by the behaviour of one spoilt boy and an indulgent father?

    It is ironic that this week, after the tragic murder of the Henderson shop keeper, their has been an outcry for the values this school espouses, yet people on this page support undermining them!!

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  21. Cunningham (844 comments) says:

    I completely agree. The whole article seems to suggest that because he saved those women he should be exempt from the rules. Pretty lame argument and why is this ven in the news?

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  22. Sean (301 comments) says:

    I’d love to see one of those charts that correlates hair length with amount learned. Except that there is no correlation. And if you’re a Sikh, by the way, the school probably couldn’t force you to cut your hair…

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  23. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    jp_1983 at 1:31 pm

    He choose to go to the integrated school, those are the rules.

    Which I’m 99% sure that the father and son knew when they “signed up” (probably literally signed).
    I’ve heard parents complain about the religious studies and chapel attendance at their child’s Anglican/Pressbutton/RC integrated school. Go figure.

    I am an atheist and both my kids went to diocesan schools or ones with a strong religious ethos. I knew that so no complaints about their getting religious education. All the other stuff that went with those schools was worth it. Oh yeah, they had uniform and grooming rules that were adhered to. So what? That family in the story could have sent their boy to Hastings Boys High, Karamu High, or even drive over to Havelock North High. Bunch of whingers. I am not sure what lesson they are teaching their son here.

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    Number of upticks I’ve ever given Psycho Milt doubles.

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  25. King Kong (41 comments) says:

    I would have thought the fact that he looks like a bag lady’s vagina would inspire him to cut his hair. That the school had to point this out is quite embarrassing.

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  26. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    The school has rules, so he can abide by them or fuck off.

    If there were no alternative schools then would you advocate the position that he can ignore the rule that school attendance is compulsory?

    Statist fucktards.

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  27. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Yeah, who cares what the kid learns or what his educational achievements are – as long as he looks tidy, that’s all that matters.

    Einstein, Newton and co, would have all been expelled from the same school, as they were non-conformists too, who didn’t bother about life’s niceties. We certainly don’t need more riff raff like them.

    Nope, stick to the nice tidy hair cut and you’ll look lovely for your teachers who will reward you accordingly.

    Reminds me of when I was at school and had to kneel on the ground to have our skirts measured. Used to take over an hour each week – that really prepared us for life… :P

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  28. rouppe (971 comments) says:

    Totally agree.

    Or change schools

    Seems to think he is special cause he’s a “hero”. Imagine going to high court over a long standing school rule…

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  29. big bruv (13,929 comments) says:

    Troy….Lucan….

    I’m beginning to sense a trend here.

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  30. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    Classic example of bad parenting, the kid himself is blameless.

    When you hit a rule you don’t like, refuse to comply, go to law.

    I’m assuming that Campbell Live will lead with this tonight

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  31. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    All the progs on the side of the little narcissist and thinking they’re standing for freedom.

    Pffft..

    Hopeless….

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  32. Don the Kiwi (1,763 comments) says:

    Schools have rules for a purpose. Manner of dress, personal appearance and conforming to a very reasonable set of rules is par for the course, and assists in boys – and girls – learning self discipline, and that life has rules that need to be obeyed, otherwise go live on a desert island somewhere.

    The father is no better. I wonder what rules he has established in his home – or is he just a slob too?

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  33. Tautaioleua (309 comments) says:

    Look at America’s public schooling system for an example of why our school rules are so important. Children there can turn up in anything, they can wear their hair at any length, facial hair to the heart’s desire.

    American students take this culture with them into adulthood and attend job interviews looking like Shrek. Those manning the tills at Walmart look like they just crawled out of bed (you would never see this at the Warehouse or Kmart).

    This is not the future we want for New Zealand. Perhaps, the boy and his father are better off in the US of A?

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  34. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

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    June 13th, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Yep, what we need is more strictness, like we used to get in the convents of old. That didn’t fuck with anyone’s minds – much!

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  35. SGA (1,069 comments) says:

    Judith at 1:59 pm

    Einstein, Newton and co, would have all been expelled from the same school, as they were non-conformists too, who didn’t bother about life’s niceties.

    Type “pictures young einstein” into goggle. Click Images.

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  36. Ed Snack (1,883 comments) says:

    Sean, the issue isn’t his learning. The school has, for better or worse certain rules one of which is about hair length. If we say that rules are optional, why not make them all optional. Hard to see a reason for uniforms, or in fact clothing in general, turn up in what you like. Make-up and jewelry, why have rules on that. Music, I know that given the choice probably more than 50% of schoolboys would opt for loud continuous music in all classes…need we go on ?

    Certain small disciplines are fine, they are after all pre-announced and at his age they can certainly chose a school that finds hair length (and not curtailing it) more important than general discipline and education. That wouldn’t be Havelock North High as they have very similar rules by the sound of it.

    No sympathy at all, so why the almost entire front page of the Dom ?

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  37. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Tautaioleua (273 comments) says:
    June 13th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    So it’s looks that matter most in society? Not whether you are clean and don’t smell, intelligent, mindful of others, and working/self-sufficient.

    Damn, someone should tell all our beneficiaries that all they need to do is cut their hair.

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  38. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ SGA (665 comments) says:
    June 13th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    I’m perfectly aware of what he looked like, – have you ever read what he was like as a pupil though? He was not a conformist!

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  39. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    Seems to think he is special cause he’s a “hero”. Imagine going to high court over a long standing school rule…

    Bit like woman beating rugby players and politicians who flout the rules and act like corrupt wombats don’t ya think…??

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  40. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Schools have rules for a purpose. Manner of dress, personal appearance and conforming to a very reasonable set of rules is par for the course, and assists in boys – and girls – learning self discipline, and that life has rules that need to be obeyed

    Slave training.

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  41. peterwn (3,275 comments) says:

    It will cost dad $20k at least to take the case to the High Court (District Courts cannot handle this sort of thing). Just think, the $20k would be a great start for tertiary education, but then dad probably thinks nanny state should pay for this and vote Labour/Green/InternetMana in the hope of having student loans abolished.

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  42. Lance (2,662 comments) says:

    Tomorrows headline.
    Soldier takes Army to court over right to wear his own, unique uniform (forgive the oxymoron).

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  43. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    [DPF; Don't be an idiot. He has chosen to attend a school that has a policy on hair length. It's about abiding by the rules you agree to. ]

    Like John Banks, Judith Collins, Maurice Williamson, Hone, Phillip Taito Field, Helen Clark et all……the leaders of our country do ya mean? – or does that not count because they have tidy haircuts.?

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  44. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    It’s about abiding by the rules you agree to.

    Induction, in other words. This shit is as old as press gangs.

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  45. backster (2,174 comments) says:

    Well I hope that before time is wasted on this crap the High Court first resolves the issue of DotCom and various other important criminal matters which don’t get heard for years after the event. We shouldn,t be paying activists lawyers or judges $500 grand a year to indulge themselves on matters like this. The Headmaster at the school should call the shots without having to worry about this nonsense.

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  46. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    “That didn’t fuck with anyone’s minds – much!”

    Someone’s done a job on yours for sure.

    Thousands of words here daily and hardly a one worth a pinch of goat shit.

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  47. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    Christ I thought we got passed this sort of crap in the 1970’s.

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  48. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    “Thing is, if I had been dumb enough to send them to a school that thinks education involves quibbling about haircuts or school uniform specifications,”

    And without that we end up with a population of useless losers like you.

    The results speak for themselves in the stark social degeneration of the last few decades.

    All this little narcisstic prick needs to do is go to another school, and his dumbarsed father needs to go back to one so he can learn to read the fine print in any agreement he signs.

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  49. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Arguments based on need are a symptom of a fundamental philosophical failure.

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  50. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    mikemikemikemike – ”
    [DPF; Don't be an idiot. He has chosen to attend a school that has a policy on hair length. It's about abiding by the rules you agree to. ]
    Like John Banks, Judith Collins, Maurice Williamson, Hone, Phillip Taito Field, Helen Clark et all……the leaders of our country do ya mean? – or does that not count because they have tidy haircuts.?”

    Are you saying that rules have no value and that John Banks shouldn’t have had to face a court?

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  51. SGA (1,069 comments) says:

    Judith at 2:08 pm

    I’m perfectly aware of what he looked like, – have you ever read what he was like as a pupil though? He was not a conformist!

    But a very well-presented non-conformist, all the same. :-)
    To be serious though, this young man has chosen a particular style of school. There are others available in his area where he could go.

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  52. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    Judith – “Damn, someone should tell all our beneficiaries that all they need to do is cut their hair.”

    If some of them did, they might find it easier to get a job. Isn’t it something along the lines of first impressions are made in the first seven seconds or something?

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  53. Tarquin North (305 comments) says:

    I went to Catholic schools in the 70’s. These sorts of rules were forced on us. I didn’t like it at the time but really appreciate the values I was taught now. This prat should grow up. The world isn’t fair and daddy won’t always be there to fight his perceived battles. If he doesn’t like it there is probably a much worse school down the road.

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  54. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    And harden up taxpayers, you thought you were paying taxes for hospitals and schools.

    Now you are paying legal fees because a little turd has his “rights”. What I want to know is when is he going to learn about responsibilities ie the responsibilities to follow the rules of the school that he or his parents probably have signed a bit of paper agreeing to?

    Ahh, but that’s right, in NZ 2014, there are no responsibilities, only “rights”.

    I thought you went to school to learn things. This kid just goes to school to learn about the legal system. If its not a big deal, then cut your hair and get on with learning. If it is all about you, then go to another, more “progressive” school, you will be much happier.

    Suck it up taxpayers. You didn’t need that operation anyway.

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  55. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    If he doesn’t like it there is probably a much worse school down the road.

    Yet another reason to homeschool.

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  56. Scott Chris (6,150 comments) says:

    Yeah the kid should comply with the rules. Mind you, had his school not been all boys I’d say he could have reasonably claimed to have been discriminated against according to his gender. (ie the girls can wear their hair long so why can’t the boys)

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  57. Ross12 (1,432 comments) says:

    So when this guy goes for a job and is told there is a dress code , like there are in many work places, will say he cannot take the job or will he run to Daddy and ask him to take the company/organisation to court ?

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  58. OTGO (557 comments) says:

    When he grows up he is going to be fighting a shitload of court cases:

    Lets say he joins a golf club, sorry you can’t wear that Nike T shirt on the course.
    Lets say he has a tattoo and want’s to be a flight attendant, sorry buddy not on my airline.
    Lets say he wants to join a gym, sure but not on Wednesday mornings that’s females only.

    I could go on but I’m bored with the subject. What a fool. Just cut your hair. If you want to be a rebel, great. Get a mohawk.

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  59. jp_1983 (213 comments) says:

    Lets say he has a tattoo and want’s to be a flight attendant, sorry buddy not on my airline.

    – Expect if it is a ta moko

    But yes you are right

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  60. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    The difference is the the state doesn’t try to coerce you to join a golf club, get a tattoo, or join a gym.

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  61. jp_1983 (213 comments) says:

    The difference is the the state doesn’t try to coerce you to join a golf club, get a tattoo, or join a gym.

    Umm since he is over 16 the state doesn’t coerce him to go to school..

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  62. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Fair point jp, but school rules are not based on free market principles, they’re based on the powers that be.

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  63. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    I blame to boy’s old man. “If his dad just said pull your head in buster and get a hair cut” the guy would still be a hero. Now everyone just remembers him as an idiot! Bad role model Dad.

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  64. goldnkiwi (1,312 comments) says:

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    mikemikemikemike (266 comments) says:

    June 13th, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    How does one become more hirsute? Regain? Surely it is more a matter of seeming to be less hirsute than one is?

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  65. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    UglyTruth – “Fair point jp, but school rules are not based on free market principles, they’re based on the powers that be.”

    Sorry Ugly but the free market should still apply. The school is offering a product. Everybody else going to that school has signed up for that product aka the 99% happy customers. If they didn’t like it they would go a get a different product.

    However, this git wants to use the power of the state to change that product just to suit him (and basically screw what anybody else thinks). I see a future role for him in the Green Party.

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  66. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    Piss poor ‘Journalism’..
    Can anyone tell me what fucking relevance his actions in earning his bravery award have on this fucking story? Anyone??
    Get a hair cut or find a new school kid- Grow up and welcome to the real fucking world. There are rules. Deal with it.

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  67. JGribble (2 comments) says:

    I think people are approaching this issue from the wrong angle. I will concede the school has the right to determine its policies, the kid could go to an alternative school if he wanted to, a hero doesn’t entitle you to ignore rules etc etc
    However I have to ask: What is the purpose of this rule on hair length?
    There is nothing worse than arbitrary rules. I couldn’t stand them when I was young and insisted everything must have a good reason. The refusal to explain them or to offer a reason like “because I said so” infuriated me. You don’t set expectations or standards in the workplace upon arbitrary lines. Saying that this is an issue about self discipline, conformity, respect for personal appearance isn’t a proper explanation. Life is not about rules to be obeyed unquestioningly. I want children in this world to be questioning authority, seeking answers and demanding rational explanations for rules. Consequently, I ask: What is the policy precisely? What is its justification? Why is the policy ‘off the collar and out of the eyes’ important for a childs education? Why is it that someone who doesn’t adhere to this, is less responsible or mature than those who do?
    Because at a glance this is the kind of issue where I part ways with conservatives. For them the issue is this simple
    “The school has rules, so he can abide by them or fuck off.”
    Never question, just obey. Its disappointing that so many people approach problems this way. I’d respectfully ask people to consider the position from the kids point of view or to consider why someone would so be opposed to just ‘cutting their hair’. Perhaps its not disrespect for rules as such but for the staunch “do as your told” attitude expressed by people above?

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  68. asunter (15 comments) says:

    To be honest, I am more concerned about the level of violence, bullying and anti social behaviour displayed by many school children, rather than the length of their hair. I have to walk with a crutch and just last week got knocked over in Wellington by a gang of 5 schoolboys who were walking right across the footpath, so it was impossible for me to get through without walking out into a busy main road. Instead of apologising, the boy who knocked me over (about 13 years old) swore at me and continued on, not even helping me to get to my feet. I also often come across school boys who refuse to get up on the bus to let me sit down, even when asked to do so by the bus driver. One time a schoolboy aged about 15 or 16 even tried to hit the driver when he asked him to let me sit down as I am on a crutch. Behaviour like this worries me a lot more than the length of someone’s hair. I also wonder why schools don’t seem to be doing anything to provide guidance and discipline to their pupils so that they behave in a more appropriate way. What kind of adults will they eventually become if they are allowed to act in this way unchallenged? My feeling is that a person who won a bravery award for saving the lives of 2 women is more likely to grow up and make a positive contribution to society regardless of the length of his hair than the bullies with practically shaved heads who knocked me over.

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  69. SGA (1,069 comments) says:

    JGribble at 4:58 pm

    What is the policy precisely? What is its justification? Why is the policy ‘off the collar and out of the eyes’ important for a childs education? Why is it that someone who doesn’t adhere to this, is less responsible or mature than those who do?

    All good questions for parents to raise with the school board and such like.

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  70. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    JGribble – “However I have to ask: What is the purpose of this rule on hair length? What is the policy precisely? What is its justification? Why is the policy ‘off the collar and out of the eyes’ important for a childs education?”

    I think if you were a teacher you would get pretty bored having to try and explain something like this every time to people who don’t want to know ie all 200+ pupils. Maybe it would be better just to say follow the rules, sign here and then lets focus on learning.

    But, off the cuff guesses why that rule might exist:

    Presentation – much easier to look well-presented when you don’t have to spend half a day washing your hair
    General hygiene – much easier when you don’t have to spend half a day washing your hair
    Nits
    Hair getting caught in machinery (woodwork)
    Hair getting pulled

    Ok, that’s my starter for 10 (10 seconds that is). I suspect the schools have encountered a raft of other reasons over the years.

    OK, now a list of why not………….. Crickets……….

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  71. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    I thought of another one

    A way to get rid of pompous twits who think the sun shines out of their backside and that the whole world revolves around them.

    This kid is going to get such a shock when he joins the real world.

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  72. Steve (North Shore) (4,564 comments) says:

    The girls have long hair and nobody bitches about it – just saying. Standards for some and not for others? Apples and Oranges and that shit

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  73. Steve (North Shore) (4,564 comments) says:

    I see the red tickers are still here. Was it a teachers only day today?
    I agree rules are rules, but I question who made the rules and why they made that rule for males only – sexist corksoakers.
    Maybe the lesie dykes are jealous that the boy is far prettier than they will ever be? And the metrosexual males are too scared to stand up to this?

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  74. Fentex (986 comments) says:

    Alternatively enrol in a school that doesn’t have a policy on hair length.

    This assumes facts not in evidence, he might not have such an option.

    I wonder if length of hair is the central issue or how tidy it is? I can imagine that a tendency to let it flow wildly becomes a complaint over length in argument and reporting when the instigating issue is that he does not keep it sufficiently tidy.

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  75. Maggy Wassilieff (408 comments) says:

    Integrated schools would not exist if taxpayers didn’t pay their teachers and building maintenance costs. I find it extraordinary that so many folks here think that its a good thing to have such arbitrary rules about hair length being propped up with public money.
    I support school rules that enhance pupils’ learning, and help to keep them and their environment safe, but I think its counterproductive for school teachers to insist on regulations that are little more than fashion statements.

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  76. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    This assumes facts not in evidence, he might not have such an option.

    He is at school in Hastings. There are heaps of options.

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  77. Tautaioleua (309 comments) says:

    Maggy, I went to an ordinary public school and finished only a couple of years ago. They also had rules about facial hair for males, long hair tied up or concealed in a bun/plat for females, and others around personal grooming. Don’t think for a second that such rules only apply to religious/state-integrated schools.

    This is not just about looking like professional young adults, but is also applied as a safety precaution for when students are attending technology classes (cooking, electricity, wood & metal work, construction, sewing, etc).

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  78. Steve (North Shore) (4,564 comments) says:

    John Walker had long flowing hair, did the schools and teachers force him to cut his hair?
    Nope, John Walker grew up, and so should the Hastings School corksoakers.
    The kid can go to another school, but who is the bitch here? some little snivelling socialist control freak trying to be a pseudo leader

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  79. Dazzaman (1,140 comments) says:

    I have scissors and a bowl……..if it weren’t for the fact that it’s a bit of a drive all the way to Hastings I’d be more than happy to cut the “hero’s” hair.

    Conformity & rigid discipline has its place, school being one of them. It’s always best to bash the kids, so to speak, stops them being unbearable know it all, smart alecks…..which is NZ’s curse, along with trash boganism, for tossing corporal punishment under the bus.

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  80. Maggy Wassilieff (408 comments) says:

    @ Tautaioleua… I was a secondary school science teacher for a time….I have no problem with pupils following rules about tidy and clean hair… of course long hair should be tied back in a Lab, gym, tech room etc. girls do it all the time… and a quite a few boys do too.
    I know silly rules don’t only apply to state-integrated schools, but I don’t think my taxes should be supporting petty tyrants.
    My step-sister went to Wanganui High School in the early1960s when female students had to raise their tunic dresses during girls’ assembly to show that they were wearing regulation grey bloomers. Thank goodness that rule had disappeared by the time I started there. I don’t think whether I wore black nickers or red witches britches made much difference to my intellectual development.
    The school won’t fall over if it revises its rule about hair length.

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  81. gump (1,650 comments) says:

    I believe that schools – like all institutions – should operate with a minimum of rules. I also believe that the rules need to have a purpose.

    A rule about hair length serves no purpose. So it shouldn’t be a rule.

    I wish the boy and his family well in their fight against this petty tyranny. Excluding this kid from school is a punishment that’s both disproportionate and unjust.

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  82. IC5000 (114 comments) says:

    “gump (1,372 comments) says:
    June 13th, 2014 at 9:36 pm
    I believe that schools – like all institutions – should operate with a minimum of rules. I also believe that the rules need to have a purpose.
    A rule about hair length serves no purpose. So it shouldn’t be a rule.”

    This rule does serve a purpose: to indoctrinate students to adhere to norms of social behaviour in a structured environment in an effort to drive out individuality and promote blind obedience to authority.

    It is amusing to see how much vitriol being heaped onto one school who has already shown the capacity for physical bravery which is in fact the reason for this hatred since many posters here know they couldn’t do the same. Equally amusing is that these same posters probably spent much of their time attempting to defend John Bank’s breaking of electoral funding laws by laundering money ‘donated’ a German criminal hoping to buy political influence and ultimately citizenship.

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  83. Tautaioleua (309 comments) says:

    Maggy, they say a stranger decides whether he or she likes you in less than 7 seconds. This will apply to future employers, law enforcement, the elderly on the bus, just about everyone under the sun.

    A young man with overgrown hair screams lazy, inconsiderate, conceited, unreliable, irresponsible, etc. These are not the qualities that a school should be encouraging – public or otherwise.

    In an ideal world, strangers would spend more than 7 seconds getting to know you. But we don’t live in an ideal world, and so we make do. You can be an individual as often as you like, just because you don’t grow your hair out does not mean you’re a conformist. It means you respect yourself and others around you. It means you don’t go rushing off to court every time the system doesn’t go your way. The system has thousands of other students to think about.

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  84. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    The kid can go to another school, but who is the bitch here? some little snivelling socialist control freak trying to be a pseudo leader

    You’ve judged your audience wrong Steve. More likely to be a belt weilding Conservative. That’s why you got three down ticks. The “Commies” aren’t responsible for all the things you think ill in the world…

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  85. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    A young man with overgrown hair screams lazy, inconsiderate, conceited, unreliable, irresponsible, etc. These are not the qualities that a school should be encouraging – public or otherwise.

    Whilst there is good reason to have rules, regulations, and the life lesson to objey them, Tautaioleua, you only get one life and it is far too early to be talking about what “professional young adults” do. There’s fifty years of that to come. Live it. Hope that others don’t judge you in 7 seconds, and afford them the same courtesy.

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  86. Maggy Wassilieff (408 comments) says:

    Tautaioleua…. I get all this psychobabble… I’m an ugly old crone with slack posture and a fondness for food…. I know how the wicked world works and how it often favours the lovely young things with great grooming and deportment. But sometimes folk needed my brains and not my neglected body….
    The point I want to make is that the education of a young person shouldn’t be compromised by adults indulging in some wierd power play about hair length. The adults in this wee drama should have shown some true leadership and accepted the young man’s willingness to wear his hair tied up.

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  87. gump (1,650 comments) says:

    @Tautaioleua

    “A young man with overgrown hair screams lazy, inconsiderate, conceited, unreliable, irresponsible, etc.”

    ——————-

    The two guys that founded Apple were college dropouts with long hair.

    Some people go on to change the world. The rest become school teachers.

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  88. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    Some people go on to change the world. The rest become school teachers.

    I would have said politicians…

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  89. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Some people go on to change the world. The rest become school teachers.

    I would have said politicians…

    Rule yourself out anyway.

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  90. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    You don’t know me from a bar of soap. Why all the hate, anger and bitterness?

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  91. Left Right and Centre (2,986 comments) says:

    haha – mostly the brown folks causing problems again. I’ve never heard of the name Lucan – sounds like some type of kitchen appliance – a lovely higher range European gas stove.

    I know it’s their own rules and that’s fine but seriously – is it still the fucking 1950s ? What’s with any school anywhere having a rule that everyone has to have the same boring as all fuck haircut, huh ? They just want a roll of white Toyota Corollas with grey plastic interiors. Good times.

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  92. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    Morning L,R&C- I was worried you’d met a grisly end on one of your late night jaunts through Porirua….

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  93. Left Right and Centre (2,986 comments) says:

    LN – keep up buddy – it’s the arvo. They don’t call us roadlice for nothing. Infestations are hard to get rid of.

    In truth the worst part is getting your passport stamped every time you cross the border into the place.

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