A racist future Maori King

July 5th, 2014 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

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You can see this and other photos on Sean Plunket’s page.

One News reported:

The Maori King’s son is in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons again – now he’s facing criticism over offensive comments on his Facebook page.

Nineteen-year-old Karotangi Paki’s page contains comments towards Asians and variations of the Nazi slogan ‘Sieg Heil’ that has been adopted by the Mongrel Mob.

And this guy got let off his crimes, so it wouldn’t interfere with him becoming Maori King one day. His grandmother was a revered figure, loved by many. Her son is not of her calibre, and this guy is just a racist crim.

Time for Maoridom to become a republic, or at least change the succession.

UPDATE: Actually it turns out he is the younger son, and never seriously had a chance of succeeding anyway. His lawyer just spun a story to the court. His older brother, it seems it a much more decent person:

But a source close to the family said Mr Paki had always been a mischievous child and had never been expected to take over from his father.

The source said ’s eldest son, Whatumoana Paki, had been groomed from a very young age to one day rule.

“Whatu was brought up to be the successor to his father and was also raised by a lot of old people in Tainui. Whereas Korotangi was the spare — and he was never expected to do anything. I think Whatu would be an ideal successor because he is a hell of a nice kid.”

Good to hear the older brother is not of the same ilk.

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61 Responses to “A racist future Maori King”

  1. PaulP (155 comments) says:

    His post with the Seig Heil reference is of most concern to me.

    This is the gang slogan of the mongrel mob and he is also in a lot of pics wearing a red cap, the mongrel mob colour.

    The family can deny it all they like but looks a lot like he was a gang prospect. Perhaps that was what the theft he was charge with was actually about.

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  2. MT_Tinman (3,255 comments) says:

    No, time for maoridom to become New Zealanders.

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  3. Pete George (23,681 comments) says:

    This is irrelevant. It’s only a conviction that would make him unfit to be a king, apparently.

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  4. Keeping Stock (10,409 comments) says:

    What PaulP said – his language on the FB posts I’ve seen (his page has now been taken down) is very much in the style of Mongrel Mob gang-speak. In the Court photos he looks as though butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth, and his suit and tie covers up extensive tattoos which are clearly seen on social media pictures. He is either a member of the Mob, or a very close associate.

    The other issue is his impending parenthood. What future does the child of a 19yo gang associate with a booze problem have?

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  5. Manolo (14,038 comments) says:

    Who will jump to the defense of this thug? Even the truck driver, his father, must be ashamed of this “prince”.

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  6. kowtow (8,753 comments) says:

    mt tinman

    Interesting comment.

    Last night on TVNZ1 news there was an item about the return of some Taranaki carvings to New Zealand.

    The reader,bloke,can’t think of his name, said they had returned to “Aotearoa”.

    TVNZ seems to think it;s time for us to become Maoris!

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  7. tvb (4,499 comments) says:

    I trust the police are giving consideration to appealing the discharge decision. To get a section 106 for 3 burglaries is taking things too far. There is another son who could get the title and the Crown could go elsewhere within the family.. He can spend his life as a thug, join the mongrel mob, become a serial burglar.

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  8. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    “….chingy eyed cunts….”

    Asians must surely be asking what National is doing with the Maori party AND Maori seats with that sort of behaviour taking place at the top of Maoridom.

    Look at the facts:

    He didn’t get all the tatts, the alcohol problem, the close bad mates, ect in a month. He’s been out of control for years – and is just 19 – and from maori ‘royalty’.

    Having to look up to Maoridom is a national joke. And the National party leads from the front.

    The maori seats have to go as Maoridom is very fragmented and is now over represented, the seats are outdated, costly, undemocratic………while Maori are still the same – decade after decade. It’s fucken pointless.

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  9. Manolo (14,038 comments) says:

    The so called “prince” is nothing but Stone Age scum destined to a life of crime.

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  10. FeralScrote (224 comments) says:

    Once again a “judge” shows us they are not the sharpest tools in the box.

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  11. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Great to be a criminal with judicial immunity. The whole thing stinks and the judge should be sacked forthwith.

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  12. Southern Raider (1,831 comments) says:

    Telling point was the comment from Tuku Morgan after the judges decision where he claimed it was great that the judiciary has finally woken up and recognising Maoris special cultural position when sentencing.

    So a white, yellow or red man should do full time, but if your brown you should be let off because your special?

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  13. dad4justice (8,303 comments) says:

    What a disgrace our justice system is. Crown the king mobster. Only in New Zealand.

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  14. Liam Hehir (130 comments) says:

    This is irrelevant. It’s only a conviction that would make him unfit to be a king, apparently

    I find this interesting. Why is it the case? After all, the Kingitanga is not a legally recognised magistracy but an informal and customary one. That being the case, isn’t the audition of his fitness for office only about his moral probity? As such, doesn’t the commission of the crimes – whether they result in a conviction or not – cast serious doubt on his character?

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  15. lilman (965 comments) says:

    Saw that Kowtow and almost died laughing.
    My wifes mum was around for tea and she being a Komatua for her tribe said yes they were hidden in a swamp but it had nothing to do with the Land wars as we were told by the reporter.
    It was to safe guard them from marauding Waikato tribes,nothing to do with Europeans at all.

    If you tell a lie long enough people start believing it.

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  16. 3-coil (1,222 comments) says:

    This type of racist slur is not unusual – as discussed previously on this site, many cited the ugliest examples of racist slurs and behaviours ever experienced in NZ are Maori racism towards Asians. This is not new, Maoris have long harboured this intense and particularly nasty anti-Asian racism but are never called on it, and as self-defined perpetual “victims” Maori claim exemption. It is now comfortably and permanently entrenched and accepted amongst Maoris, from top to bottom.

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  17. wreck1080 (3,956 comments) says:

    don’t matter, hes maori , son of the king, Untouchable!!

    He could probably commit murder and get away with it.

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  18. Pete George (23,681 comments) says:

    Liam – that’s another way of making the point I was trying to make cynically.

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  19. G152 (385 comments) says:

    There are others in that bloodline who are far more suitable.
    That one has worn out any mana it might have inherited

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  20. Longknives (4,868 comments) says:

    “He could probably commit murder and get away with it.”

    If he does do a Rape,Aggravated Robbery etc to get his Gang Patch (and there seems little doubt from his Facebook posts that this is what he aspires to) we won’t even hear about it. Guarantee he will get permanent ‘name suppression’ to protect his high and mighty Whanau….

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  21. duggledog (1,585 comments) says:

    Becoming ‘king’ of Tainui / Maori whatever, shit that’s something to aspire to!

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  22. lazza (382 comments) says:

    Oh Dear another dopey “Gothcha” gifted to the Red Neck racists … of every “hue”.

    Dame Whina’s prayer for “the races to love and respect each other” is affronted … from both sides of this sorry affair.

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  23. publicwatchdog (2,803 comments) says:

    My view on ‘leadership’ is that you ‘lead from the front’ / ‘lead by example’ and take full personal responsibility for your actions. In my view, the ‘Rule of Law’ should be applied equally, ‘justice should be done and be seen to be done’. Has this happened in this case? In my view – NO. Penny Bright

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  24. Odakyu-sen (735 comments) says:

    “This type of racist slur is not unusual – as discussed previously on this site, many cited the ugliest examples of racist slurs and behaviours ever experienced in NZ are Maori racism towards Asians. ”

    I imagine “Asians” are the biggest threat to the “Maori status quo.” The reason is that the “Asians” can not be controlled by the techniques that have worked so well on the “Pakeha” sentimentality.

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  25. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    The “Kingitanga” movement has no more legal standing than your local bowling club.

    It’s farcical really, the man should be in jail.

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  26. Keeping Stock (10,409 comments) says:

    Good Lord; I just up-ticked Penny Bright!

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  27. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Well well…when Manolo and Penny Not Very are on the same page that’s pretty significant…

    Two things strike me about this: firstly discharges without conviction – which as everyone knows I was once granted – are supposed to be for one-off lapses where the consequences of conviction are “out of all proportion” to the offence in all the circumstances…In this case there were several unconnected offences…

    secondly it seems the Judge may … well, I’d better be careful since the thug’s lawyer is a QC and no doubt very cosy with the boys at the Law Society…

    It appears from what has emerged since his court appearance that this gang prospect was and is “the spare” and not the heir, and was never considered as a potential successor in the first place…Others can and have joined the dots…Perhaps I can just say that at no level has this case and its result reflected well on either the legal profession or the courts…

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  28. deadrightkev (510 comments) says:

    My confidence in the Justice system in NZ was at an all time low before this. It is a ministry full of administrative incompetence, misinformation and subtle high level corruption.

    In this case they didn’t even bother to be subtle.

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  29. scrubone (3,104 comments) says:

    My confidence in the Justice system in NZ was at an all time low before this.

    Unfortunately, the more I learn about the justice system the more I learn the truth of the advice I keep seeing that taking something to court is a very risky business – even the most solid case can be thrown out, even the most flimsy case can be convicted.

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  30. dirty harry (514 comments) says:

    Cultural cringe gets in the way of sensible sentencing. Only a matter of time before the scumbag is back in the courts for armed robbery , rape ?If the piece of shit isnt going to be ‘ king’ one day, and the lawyer bullshitted, why isn’t he up in the dock?

    Farcical.

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  31. publicwatchdog (2,803 comments) says:

    It’s ok ‘Keeping Stock’ – even a stopped clock is right twice a day :) (Meant of course in caring way! ;) Kind regards Penny Bright

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  32. burt (8,309 comments) says:

    So his older brother has been groomed by Tainui elders but it looks like this guy has been groomed by Winston Peters.

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  33. scrubone (3,104 comments) says:

    I imagine “Asians” are the biggest threat to the “Maori status quo.” The reason is that the “Asians” can not be controlled by the techniques that have worked so well on the “Pakeha” sentimentality.

    You also have all the academics that run around saying that racism is about power, thus oppressed minorities can’t be racist.

    Of course, if you find one that you really don’t like you just relabel him white – a la George Zimmerman and Keith Abbott.

    Or this guy http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/19/unreal-msnbc-edits-clip-of-man-with-gun-at-obama-rally-to-support-racism-narrative/

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  34. wf (464 comments) says:

    Every one is indulging in a lot of faux outrage here. The ‘royal family’ is scarcely customary as it is only in its 2nd generation. It was a tribal setup, and graced with the most important titles that maori could apply – knowing the european liking of titles – and I wouldn’t mind betting that the people involved relished the whole concept.

    And anyone with young relatives and appreciation of their ‘culture’, keeps well away from their Facebook pages. I ‘unfriended’ my grandson because of the ‘conversations’ that kept popping up on MY page! Apart from the ghoulish ‘selfies’ that young women often post, young men seem to take pleasure in exchanging sexual insults with each other (grooming for future k-blogging perhaps?) and indulging in inflammatory political opinions.

    As a very sane chap said on radio yesterday – kids have too much time on their hands, and the devil finds work . . . . .

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  35. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    @burt, more like the Harawira family rather than Winston. Much as I despise him, I don’t recall Winston every drunk driving or breaking into peoples private property & stealing stuff on a drunken rampage.

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  36. scrubone (3,104 comments) says:

    So penny has worked out why long rambling comments are counterproductive? Good on you! Nice to see someone progress as a person!

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  37. B A W (100 comments) says:

    I do hope there is an appeal over the discharge without conviction.

    As for Asians coming to New Zealand – fine with me. They come with an education ethic and a work ethic. They are making a great addition to society.

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  38. Unity (609 comments) says:

    The Maori King is only a figurehead with no legal standing at all. We are all citizens under one Queen only. The fact that this criminal got let off when he committed his offence whilst already out on bail for other offences, smacks of cringe racism to me. He should have been convicted. Who would want such a person as a pseudo King anyway? He brings disrespect to any figurehead title.

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  39. Jack5 (5,148 comments) says:

    While the theme is race, and before the leftist troll Big Bruv arrives to confuse the debate, here’s an interesting side piece: there’s a colour prejudice against dogs:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/10232996/Black-dogs-face-discrimination-hardship

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  40. lazza (382 comments) says:

    “Unity” … right on! And a viewpoint that steers clear of blatant prejudiced racism.

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  41. hj (7,062 comments) says:

    Maori dislike Asian immigrants more than any other group of New Zealanders, a new poll shows.

    Asians are blamed for taking jobs from Maori, driving Maori to Australia, lacking understanding of the Treaty of Waitangi and competing for cultural funding.

    “The diversity of New Zealand is beginning to undermine the investment we have in biculturalism. [Maori] don’t believe new migrants are sympathetic to biculturalism and the Treaty,” said Massey University pro vice-chancellor, Professor Paul Spoonley.

    Surveys show Maori have an increasingly negative perception of Asians. It is caused by “competition in the labour market . . . and competition for cultural resources,” Spoonley said.

    Maori have a unique position in New Zealand and advancing their cultural and social needs must be put ahead of the needs of immigrants, said Maori Party leader, Te Ururoa Flavell

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10081307/Maori-more-important#

    Indigenous Rights Commissioner Karen Johansen said a complaint has been sent to the Sunday Star Times, and a meeting had been sought with the editor.She said she could not believe what she was seeing when she saw the article.

    Ms Johansen said she read it three times and was left with the impression it was inaccurate.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/248514/newspaper-%27impeding%27-race-relations

    At the Seal Colony (Kaikoura) I saw an Asian come down the hill with a sack on his back. He opened the BMW and put the paua in a large chilly bin. 10 minutes later another came down the track using a sack barrow. In the BMW they went and off.

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  42. Longknives (4,868 comments) says:

    An unprecedented Thirteen upticks for Penny on Kiwiblog!! Perhaps she will be a force in the upcoming elections afterall!

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  43. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    She could weld us together as a Nation Longknives! :)

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  44. Fentex (1,022 comments) says:

    Good to hear the older brother is not of the same ilk.

    Not what passes through my mind when I read that he has been doted on at the apparent expense of his sibling. I am not impressed that one child is treated better than another by a parent – especially over trivial matters like invented privileges that from their childhoods pervert their lives.

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  45. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Surely sensible folk don’t take this “Murri King” stuff seriously? (Apart from Chris Finlayson! :) )

    ( and he gets to waste our tax dollars on this sort of shit) :)

    If he’d taken his silly little boy racer red hat off and looked at the people in the court maybe he would have had a tad more credibility! :)

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  46. MH (810 comments) says:

    There had been a lot of intermarriage with Chinese and Maori pre 1945. The new flashy immigrants with accumulated family money and hard working attitudes are the ones that set the greenstone eyes of Maori jealousy aflame and currently fixed on Asians. Greed, is all it is.

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  47. Paulus (2,659 comments) says:

    As sure as night follows day he will be caught one day soon committing another crime
    – then the lady Judge will pat him on the head and say,
    “Your Princeship Highness, Go and Sin no more, it is the fault of the nasty Colonialists picking on you”,
    Panty Morgan says, so he must be right.

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  48. Cactus Kate (551 comments) says:

    “Whereas Korotangi was the spare — and he was never expected to do anything.”

    Probably the source of his troubled mind right there and oh to familiar in Maori families, well plenty of underachieving families in NZ.

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  49. goldnkiwi (1,514 comments) says:

    I wonder if anyone will ask Nanaia Mahuta her view on the future of the Kingitanga?

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  50. sooty (65 comments) says:

    Didn’t Tuku or lawyer say in original interview, say that he had done 120hrs off PD. How? You can’t pre do PD. You can only do it after sentancing. I reckon he has got prior convictions! Maybe name suspression on them.

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  51. Paul Marsden (999 comments) says:

    I’d really like to hear Chris Finlayson’s view on this matter.

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  52. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Cactus: but why is that?? Prince Edward, at one time third in line or something…quietly contracted a lavender marriage, and even gritted his teeth, thought of England and produced a kid or two…Found something to do with his life, making slightly arty films, and making docos about stately ‘omes of England…This little punk is no different…or shouldn’t be…

    sooty: If that’s right then the Judge is even more culpable than we all thought…a discharge without conviction is supposed to be a oncer, never to be allowed again…

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  53. Mr_Blobby (189 comments) says:

    The real question is. What other crimes has he committed and not been held to account for.

    Take as you will from everybody else in the form of maori privilege but within a generation they will give it all back and be asking for more, because they are special.

    Being Maori myself I have several thoughts.

    Get rid of this farcical royalty bullshit.
    Get rid of the race based electoral seats MMP does not work properly with them.
    Get out of grievance mode.
    Get off your sorry black arses and do something productive.
    Stop Bashing your children.
    Stop thieving from your neighbors and taking whatever you want. It is not be culturally acceptable in a modern world.
    Accept responsibility for yourselves and stop being at the bad end of every single statistic.
    There is no room for tribalism in a modern democracy.

    Ashamed to publicly identify as Maori.

    And what of our political parties. Cat got your tongue, don’t want to upset the Bros.

    Come on MonKey show some leadership.

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  54. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    Future World kings.

    http://screencast.com/t/k7QuR4QbOlG

    http://screencast.com/t/yjznqTS2fWam

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  55. wikiriwhis business (4,115 comments) says:

    Pakeha are racist. They prove that on this blog every day.

    They have no idea of culture and believe we should be like the US\China/Cuba

    A vast cultureless tax base.

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  56. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    Pakeha are racist. They prove that on this blog every day

    Vote for Cunliffe then, he’ll be apologising for being Pakeha tomorrow.

    Also, seek expert help and once you’ve done that look up hypocrite in the dictionary.

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  57. Gulag1917 (995 comments) says:

    A racist future Maori King means civil war.

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  58. Unity (609 comments) says:

    Well said, Mr_Blobby, and so utterly true. We should all be the same under the law and those who are not doing so, should start taking responsibility for themselves instead of holding their hands out and relying on others.

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  59. RRM (10,004 comments) says:

    UPDATE: Actually it turns out he is the younger son, and never seriously had a chance of succeeding anyway. His lawyer just spun a story to the court.

    Isn’t there a name for the act of lying to a court?

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  60. Unity (609 comments) says:

    It should go to appeal, surely. Once again devious methods have been used in our supposed justice system.

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  61. eaglewatch (64 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business (3,834 comments) says:
    July 6th, 2014 at 2:17 pm
    Pakeha are racist. They prove that on this blog every day.

    They have no idea of culture and believe we should be like the USChina/Cuba

    A vast cultureless tax base.

    That is HILARIOUS!!!

    Maori are without any shadow of a doubt the most racist people in this country, quite possibly the entire world.
    I have experienced this on many occasions myself, more often than not when I have been invited into the house of a Maori friend of mine… add a few beers into the mix (the proverbial truth serum) and just wait for the ignorance, arrogance and racial slurs to flow.
    It’s bad enough that they judge and persecute me for being a different colour to them and do not even ask for my opinion or stance on these things before making an arse of themselves by assuming, they don’t even have the common decency to respect the fact that I have been invited into this house by a friend and they have no right to disrespect him by attacking a guest in his house… savagery and arrogance at its very pinnacle!!!
    There seems to be a myth perpetuated by some that this is a form of “reverse racism”, there is nothing “reverse” about it, they are guilty of racial stereotyping and I don’t care where their misguided beliefs stem from – racism is racism… it is no less disgusting coming from somebody who has some form of supposed historical grievance.
    Inclusiveness or exclusiveness based on race is not justifiable in any manner whatsoever, if somebody in this country needs help for whatever reason… their lineage or the colour of their skin should not be a factor in determining whether they receive it or not, each individual case should be looked at and an outcome reached based on personal circumstance, not race or skin colour.
    I say again… including (or excluding) someone based on race is racism in its purist form, anybody who argues with this fact is a true personification of racism themselves, you can dress it up and call it whatever you like.
    Case in point:- “The Pakeha Party”, I do not like the term Pakeha as it a a derogatory label that Maori use to define the varied and mixed lineage that makes up 70% of this country but, nonetheless… the outcries of racism from Maori over another race trying to start a movement to represent themselves actually reinforces my point beautifully, the simple fact that they have in fact made themselves out to be racist by opposing this is so painfully ironic that it is beyond comprehension… if it wasn’t so disgustingly disturbing – it would be laughable.

    Mr_Blobby… you should be PM, its a shame more Maori aren’t capable of accepting the plain and obvious truth and/or aren’t afraid to speak up about it… I take my hat off to you.

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