Another billion dollar Green ban

July 31st, 2014 at 6:07 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

A Green Party policy to protect Maui’s dolphins could cost Taranaki thousands of jobs and billions of dollars, Conservation Minister Nick Smith says.

Yesterday the Green Party announced a new policy to ban set-net fishing, trawling and gas and oil exploration within reserve areas that are home to the 55 Maui’s dolphins.

The move could have a significant impact on both Taranaki’s fishing and oil and gas industries, Smith said.

“There has not been a single incident involving Maui’s dolphin and Taranaki’s $3 billion oil and gas industry in over 40 years,” Smith said.

It is fishing that kill dolphins, not drilling. The hate oil and gas because it upsets Gaia, so they are using the dolphins as a pretext to eventually wipe out Taranaki’s oil industry.

“The prohibition on any new oil and gas exploration in this large area will come at a huge economic cost long term not just to Taranaki, but more widely to New Zealand.

“This extreme Green policy will cost Taranaki thousands of jobs and billions of dollars.”

If you ban any new exploration, that means you will eventually kill the industry off. The Greens think this means everyone will abandon their cars, but instead it will just mean that we become more dependent on imports.

However, New Plymouth’s Labour candidate Andrew Little said the party did not support a ban of offshore drilling. “The biggest risk is set-nets,” he said.

“There’s no evidence that offshore drilling has an impact on Maui’s dolphins, so we can’t support that.

Good to have some sense from Labour, but we have to remember that on current polling the Greens would probably expect to get around a third of their policies implemented if they are in Government, as they are polling at around half Labour’s level.

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25 Responses to “Another billion dollar Green ban”

  1. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…..She said the Green Party was keen on solutions to protect both the dolphins and the livelihood of the fishermen.
    The party had announced $20 million would be given to fishermen who might face “hardship” if the ban took place.
    The money would be used as transitional support to help provide alternative dolphin-friendly fishing gear.
    “It’s a win-win for everyone.”……”

    If Smith had just got on with the job of dealing with the issue of the fishermen, then the Greens wouldn’t now be getting all the credit.

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  2. jp_1983 (237 comments) says:

    Alternative dolphin friendly fishing gear.

    = the dole and welfare because another creature will be effected.

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  3. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    Oil lamps and wooden spades anyone? The Green Party comrades are definitely against progress.
    How come 10%+ of the population vote for these imbeciles?

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  4. mjw (401 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  5. Bogusnews (414 comments) says:

    Bloody nutcase Greens. When are they going to learn? Actually I think I know, when idiot NZ’ers stop voting for them.

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  6. duggledog (1,624 comments) says:

    But think of all the sustainable jobs created in the tourism industry as people flock to see the Maui dolphins. Or rather, ‘job’

    mjw – one day when I’ve got half an hour I’ll explain to you how the world actually works. For now, in a nutshell, money makes money, and welfare is charity. I’m off to earn my crust.

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  7. alex Masterley (1,535 comments) says:

    Some comments
    The DOC website makes interesting reading on this subject. It is better reading than the emotional claptrap one reads from the greens.
    The surveys they undertook to find Mauis dolphins show the population is centred on Port Waikato.
    the range where they have been located is between the Kaipara harbour and Aotea harbour. None were seen between Cape Egmont and the Awakino river mouth in either boat surveys or surveys conducted from the air.
    They have not been found beyond the 7 metre depth. From the information we have I doubt they are a pelagic species.
    There has been one dolphin death in the past 10 years that may be attributed to fishing but even that is questionable as the corpse was returned the sea and the skipper of merely reported it. What is likely to kill them is propeller contact from speeding vessels.
    there have been no dolphin deaths attributed to the oil exploration/drilling industry.
    The greens are using this subject as an excuse to kill two industries, oil, and fishing

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  8. Tarquin North (400 comments) says:

    Another example of ideology trumping common sense – in other words, another green policy. The strange part is Anrew Little said something useful for once in his life. Don’t worry I’m sure he’ll make up for it in the coming weeks.

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  9. All_on_Red (1,743 comments) says:

    They have a low reproductive rate. A female will only have 4 calves over a 20 year period( according to WWF) The calves are prone to being eaten by predators.

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  10. radvad (736 comments) says:

    I presume Tamati “look at me” Coffey will now be voting Green.
    Oh wait, I forgot, the protest he organised was not really about dolphins, it was about him.

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  11. kowtow (8,938 comments) says:

    Considering their policy on abortion their extremism in relation to protecting non humans is worrying.

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  12. alloytoo (582 comments) says:

    55 is not a viable population, this “Species” is effectively extinct anyway.

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  13. kiwi in america (2,314 comments) says:

    John Key spanked Metiria Turei in Parliamentary QT yesterday over this http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/34275. The Nats front bench need to be hitting this issue hard over the next week to ensure at least some MSM reportage – it has the added advantage of being another Labour Greens wedge issue.

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  14. oldpark (412 comments) says:

    The dolphins as counted by the future NZ economy wreckers ,the “Greens.They must be counting the same fish for 55 times.The so called dolphins are like ships in the night ,no one sees them.The whole campaign by the commie Russel Norman inspired, is a façade to keep his lying crying craven cowardly so called” Green” party from disappearing without trace.

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  15. Paulus (2,707 comments) says:

    When and by whom were the 55 Maui Dolphins last counted?
    Were they caught named, and tagged ?
    Take them to Akaroa where there are many of their cousins – Hectors
    They are very similar in many respects being same family.

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  16. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Another example of ideology trumping common sense

    Since when was shitting in your own nest a good idea? How is it commonsense to destroy vital food stocks for future generations?

    Humankind would not exist if the delicate ecological balance of the oceans was ruined. Whilst a few dolphins are not going to upset that balance too much, they are just the start. If we allow the plundering and destruction of the system, where every creature, including sharks, play an important role in keeping that delicate balance working, then we eventually contribute to our demise.

    Sorry, but my grandchildren are more important than that. They are more important than me having more money, and them living lives where the oceans cannot be swum in, or are able provide essential nutrients to ensure the survival of not just them, but other life forms.

    As I said, its not just about a few dolphins, it is about the sum of what we are doing. It has to stop somewhere – and if there is a risk of irreparable damage, then it shouldn’t happen – and especially not to provide other countries with more benefits than we get.

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  17. Brian Smaller (3,966 comments) says:

    Oil lamps and wooden spades anyone? The Green Party comrades are definitely against progress.
    How come 10%+ of the population vote for these imbeciles?

    Because the simple life, at one with nature and frolicking with dolphins and unicorns, sounds fantastic while having a coffee in an urban cafe while surfing the internet on your smart phone.

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  18. itstricky (2,021 comments) says:

    Because the simple life, at one with nature and frolicking with dolphins and unicorns, sounds fantastic while having a coffee in an urban cafe while surfing the internet on your smart phone.

    Or, because someone needs to force the hand to use human ingenuity to move to alternatives that don’t have as much environmental impact as the current ones but still allow all the current advances to keep moving. Everything needs a driver, and sooner or later something has to spark it. Better that spark be a bunch of wailing hippies than waking up one day and realising that, as Judith says, your Grandchildren can’t swim in the ocean anymore.

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  19. G152 (420 comments) says:

    When are the Greens going to ban sharks and Orca from areas where they claim the Hectors Dolphin live?

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  20. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    “55 is not a viable population, this “Species” is effectively extinct anyway.”

    Sadly, you gotta wonder how they recover.

    A study came out last year that said Maui’s & Hectors are actually the same thing.

    The Greens have shown again that they are full of shit. Unfortunately their propaganda spreads like wild fire through social media. hardly anyone fact checks.

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  21. Ross12 (1,484 comments) says:

    No one including all the fishermen want to see the dolphins killed unnecessarily. This is just a beat up by the Greens to pull in few young voters.
    The Green movement are hypocrites — in the USA they have passed a law / regulation ( or are about to) which will forgive wind turbine owners killing protected eagles in California. Where are the big Greenpeace , WWF or Friends of the Earth protests ???
    The silence is deafening as they say.

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  22. Tarquin North (400 comments) says:

    Don’t tell Judith dime, robbing people a pointless crusade is naughty. if you keep this up you’ll be send to crysal reading and crochet classes without your mung beans and sandals. You have been warned!

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  23. Maggy Wassilieff (485 comments) says:

    @ Paulus…. number of Maui Dophins is an estimate based on standard capture-recapture techniques. Scientists don’t need to tag individual Maui dolphins, they use a DNA sample to identify individuals.
    http://www.doc.govt.nz/documents/conservation/native-animals/marine-mammals/mauis-dolphin-abundance-estimate-report.pdf

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  24. DonC (9 comments) says:

    The Green policy is to ban inshore fishing along most of the North Island West Coast. Yet, along most of this coastline there have been no Maui’s identified for more than 25 years.
    Where Maui’s do live there has been a ban on set netting and trawling since 2003. There is no record since then of a Maui’s being killed by fishing.
    But recent Hector’s and Maui’s post mortems show a high incidence of Toxoplasmosis. It is unquestionably killing them.
    The Green Party is silent on this.

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  25. edhunter (554 comments) says:

    The Maui comes across as an inbred cousin kissing, sister rooting hilly billy. Relocate 10 Hectors from the South Island to introduce new blood into the system and they might have a chance.
    After all is multiculturalism is good enough for us surely it’s good enough for a bloody dolphin.

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