General Debate 17 July 2014

July 17th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    I’m not in the habit of apologising, but I would just like to say that I’m sorry.

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  2. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Loser.

    Edit: Sorry :oops:

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  3. Scott Chris (6,135 comments) says:

    Plunge in smoking attributed to plain packaging:

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/plunge-in-smoking-attributed-to-plain-packaging-20140716-ztqht.html

    Contradicts the tobacco industry generated figures DPF quoted a coupla weeks back. Who’da thunk.

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  4. Left Right and Centre (2,975 comments) says:

    (1) NekNominate

    (2) Ice Water Challenge

    (3)

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  5. Nukuleka (325 comments) says:

    I note that the first same sex ‘marriage’ couple has separated after only a year of connubial bliss. Should we be surprised? Not at all. Same sex ‘marriage’ is nothing but a meaningless and sham mirage.

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  6. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Time the filthy fat felon was tossed out of NZ. His only use is the NZ Herald to use as a plaything, along with Lecher Len, the corrupt mayor. Does this media outlet have issues?

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  7. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    T Notts – you wanker. You’ve left me hangin’! :lol:

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  8. hj (7,010 comments) says:

    Rape culture
    http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/generalnews/2014/07/16/egypt-sentences-men-for-tahrir-square-sexual-assault-rape_8cbb8127-31c4-4747-a617-913b35038016.html

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  9. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “Does this media outlet have issues?”

    Serious, multiple issues.

    I remember back after the last US midterm elections the Herald’s response was to print, side by side, two articles from far left British commentators making the claim that the Tea Party was a con job invented by the Koch brothers. Despite being from two different sources, both articles were almost identical. Apparently the Herald was concerned the public wouldn’t get the right message unless they repeated it.

    And they wonder why their sales are plummeting.

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  10. Left Right and Centre (2,975 comments) says:

    That reminds me – on Back Benches Wallace Chapman asked our reps what they thought ‘rape culture’ is . . .

    And one of those irritating young female lefty fixed-view dorks in the crowd (one of the ones on a political mission – not enjoying a drink) said it’s telling women that they can’t dress how they want and go out when they want in case they invite sexual assault / rape.

    Good one. Well – you can’t do whatever you want in life – so what ?. I can’t do whatever I want either. There’s such a thing as the wrong time and the wrong place my friend. And if you’re dressed like a cheap tart and shakin it like a music video slut tease – hello ? Yeah – you can just do whatever you like and expect to bypass the brain wiring of the male mind. Well done mate.

    (BTW – the lezza on Back Benches ? – as MPs go – what an inarticulate stupid cow struggling away – she was rubbish. Phil Goff and Gareth Hughes were killing her).

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  11. Odakyu-sen (648 comments) says:

    “Same sex ‘marriage’ is nothing but a meaningless and sham mirage.”

    Some postgraduate needs to trawl through the data and compare same-sex with hetro-sex marriages (factoring in variables such as age and religion) and see if there is a statistically significant difference in their duration. I’d say a nice longitudinal study lasting a couple of decades and running with a significant annual budget.

    Then we can be sure that the science is settled.

    //

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  12. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    Stuff has an article about a rugby player who “felt compelled to keep his sexuality secret for fear of being ostracised”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/news/10273706/Homophobia-follows-player-from-NZ-to-Sydney

    What I don’t understand is that for those “in the know”, “being gay” is considered quite normal. So regular articles like this and the media driven circus about Ian Thorpe “coming out”, I’ve got the following questions:

    1. Why is it then ‘brave’ to ‘come out’ as being normal?
    2. Why is it a media story to ‘come out’ as being normal?
    3. And if it is so normal why did someone win damages (this year) for being called “gay”? How can anyone this rugby player feel “ostracised” by being called ‘normal’?

    Is it that it isn’t really normal and a tiny % of the population is trying to push an agenda?

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  13. SGA (1,025 comments) says:

    Wierd Al Yankovich’s take on Lorde’s “Royals”.
    Second half of the parody is a must for all who enjoy our more conspiratorially-minded commentators.

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  14. Chuck Bird (4,883 comments) says:

    I wonder if Darryn Hinch will name another convicted sexually offender in NZ who has got permanent name suppression today as he has done Tuesday and Wednesday. Parties need to be asked what process will they put in place to hold lazy, incompetent, arrogant, biased and even corrupt judges to account?

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  15. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    Hey, when did Ugly start making music videos? :)

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  16. Yoza (1,872 comments) says:

    Left Right and Centre (2,800 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:26 am

    That reminds me – on Back Benches Wallace Chapman asked our reps what they thought ‘rape culture’ is . . .

    And one of those irritating young female lefty fixed-view dorks in the crowd (one of the ones on a political mission – not enjoying a drink) said it’s telling women that they can’t dress how they want and go out when they want in case they invite sexual assault / rape.

    Good one. Well – you can’t do whatever you want in life – so what ?. I can’t do whatever I want either. There’s such a thing as the wrong time and the wrong place my friend. And if you’re dressed like a cheap tart and shakin it like a music video slut tease – hello ? Yeah – you can just do whatever you like and expect to bypass the brain wiring of the male mind. Well done mate.

    (BTW – the lezza on Back Benches ? – as MPs go – what an inarticulate stupid cow struggling away – she was rubbish. Phil Goff and Gareth Hughes were killing her).

    So you are saying rape is ok in certain circumstances?

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  17. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    @ davincimode, what in particular are you sorry about today? Can we point you towards some focus groups for you to decide what it is most politically advantageous to be sorry about? It will probably be different tomorrow, so I’m sure you’ll be able to be completely & profoundly sorry about something different then.

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  18. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Yoza (1,478 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:38 am

    So you are saying rape is ok in certain circumstances?

    That appears to be exactly what he is saying – so one can presume then that if he was going about some work dressed in typical male attire – perhaps jeans and a t-shirt, looking all male and hot and sweaty, perhaps welding a hammer or such, and a homosexual man happened to desire some sex, and raped him – that would be okay – because after all he was dressed to appeal.

    Then of course, if the offender happened to skip the country and he spoke out about it, the whole thing would have been a set up, and he had intended to trap the offender in the first place.

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  19. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    EAD, this is 2014 not 1954. Just don’t forget to put your tin foil hat on as per above video and continue to entertain us with your Federal Reserve ,and other associated Austrian School/ Zero Hedge world of Disneyland.!

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  20. david (2,557 comments) says:

    Judith, we bow to your superior knowledge about what turns gay men on.

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  21. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ WineOh (533 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:41 am

    I think he left it open to interpretation from the reader. I took it that he was sorry for being a national supporter – as he damn well should be! :-)

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  22. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ david (2,526 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Good, perhaps you can make some use of it ! :P

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  23. Left Right and Centre (2,975 comments) says:

    Can someone tell the Stuffed poofter ‘Couch Potato’ ‘TV reviewer’ who detests Paul Henry that it’s 2014 – not 1974 ?

    Paul asks his guest if she has had sex with Richard Branson after a photo of the two hugging together on Richie’s private island is shown (short story). It’s clearly not a serious question as asked in Paul’s typically impish schoolboy tone.

    Mike Killjoypatrick – piss off to Saudi Arabia if you want to get closer to the ‘good old days’ wowser !!

    If Mikey knew anything about Paul Henry – and why would he having excess weight everywhere but inside the skull – he’d know that Paul gets itchy feet and doesn’t take root in one gig for too long anyway. He’ll be somewhere else soon enough.

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  24. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Derryn Hinch, back in New Zealand recently, has a blog: http://www.humanheadline.com.au/

    One of his recent posts was It’s a secret.

    I USED TO THINK that Adelaide was Suppression City. Then I conferred the dubious title on Melbourne because the County Court judges started tossing around suppression orders like confetti.

    (The Victorian Government initiated legislation to make those orders less prevalent but the situation has only improved marginally so far.)

    Anyway, I’ve now found a new contender… and this time I intend to confer the award to a whole country. New Zealand.

    They’ve turned suppression orders into an art form. It’s fitting for me to write about it today because I’m in Auckland – talking about suppression orders.

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  25. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “so one can presume then that if he was going about some work dressed in typical male attire – perhaps jeans and a t-shirt, looking all male and hot and sweaty, perhaps welding a hammer or such, and a homosexual man happened to desire some sex, and raped him”

    Wouldn’t it be rather foolish to try and rape a guy wielding a hammer?

    That said, I agree that rape is never, ever ok, and there is never an excuse for it. As for the hardwired male brain, that might make a guy look at a hotly dressed women, but it’s insulting to men to claim it would actually make a man rape anyone, unless they were already predisposed to sexual assault in the first place.

    Women are not being raped because of they way they dress. They are being raped because some men have serious psycho-sexual problems.

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  26. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    WineOh

    I’m not sure. I can’t decide.

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  27. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “EAD, this is 2014 not 1954.”

    I’m always curious as to why liberals think citing the date is an argument for anything.

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  28. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ ShawnLH (3,049 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:52 am

    I am not really sure on the hammer thing – I’ve never gone about planning a rape, so aren’t too sure on what it takes, but perhaps the hammer could be a turn off.

    However totally agree with the rest of your statement – good on you for speaking up – as long as people insist that rape is okay in some circumstances or that its not rape because ‘she/he was gagging for it’ – then the rates are going to continue to be high in this country. Whilst I think Cunliffe went about it the wrong way, the message is clear that when men speak up against rape and other such issues, other males, especially the younger ones take notice.

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  29. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    And conversely when men make excuses for predatory sex and re-direct the blame and responsibility on the victims they give a tacit nod of approval to sexual predators.

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  30. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    Yes Stephie.

    worrying how central banks and monetary policy enriches the few at the expense of many must make me a “tin-foil hat wearer” who believes in “shape-shifting lizards”.

    Being worried about Government crossing the rubicon of the relationship between private citizen and public office by their intrusion into our lives and spying just George Orwell warned us about in 1984 must mean I wear a tin foil hat to stop alien attacks and that the moon landing was faked.

    But yes I do believe in the Austrian School of Economics and their explanation of Business Cycles http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Austrian_Business_Cycle_Theory amongst their other philosophies & yes, Zerohedge is my favourite news aggregation site. If that makes me “bat-shit crazy”, then I’m bat shit crazy and off to Disneyland :)

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  31. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    Shawn LH, 1954 signifies a time in history when homosexuals were regarded as poison and parriahs. Sixtty years on attitudes have changed for the better as Thorpe coming out shows.IMO.
    What’s enlightening about EAD’s sneer.?
    I take it you’d both wish it was 1954.?

    PS interesting that the mentally ill and divorcees back in 1954 were regarded in a similar way.Don’t talk about it, don’t discuss, don’t mention it etc.

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  32. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    There have been a number of very elderly women raped over the years, and elderly women are, usually, unlikely to dress protectively. That fact alone shoots a hole in LRC’s theory.

    Unless he thinks granny knickers are a provocative turn on.

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  33. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    EAD, as I said don’t forget the tin foiil hatvas per the above video this morning.!

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  35. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    I hope that the Malaysian with Diplomatic status returns soon as I would like to hear his QC Defence Lawyer have the little lesbian left wing activist girl on the stand, with many of the questions posed here and on Whale.
    I will be first in the court queue

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  36. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    The problem stephie is the assumption that any and all forward movement is always progress. It may be, it may not be. I would rather deal with specific issues than just cite the date. Citing the date in and of itself does not tell me anything, and personally I think it’s a lazy way to make an argument, just as lazy as EAD’s use of the Matrix film to claim that if we all just swallowed his version of the red pill we would all think just like he does.

    For example, we have more pollution now than in 1764 due to the industrial revolution. Your opposed to pollution, so ergo you must want to take us back to 1764.

    See the problem?

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  37. flipper (4,060 comments) says:

    Chuck Bird (4,625 comments) says:

    July 17th, 2014 at 8:30 am

    I wonder if Darryn Hinch will name another
    ****

    Chuckie…
    You are both right and wrong.

    I enjoy reading Derran Hynch. Have done so for quite some time. But I could not possibly recall what I have and have not seen in the past. Nevertheless, it is important to note that one person apparently named by him is NOT a convicted “offender”. The CoA quashed the conviction and ordered name suppression.

    The second aspect is whether suppression really works. Apart from the prurient media slobs, most folks are too busy to worry about such matters. On the other hand, there is a legal fraternity arrogance to suppression. They, of course, consider that they should know, but the great unwashed may never know. But …… there are few secrets among legal eagles…. most everyone knows others’ secrets….. so suppression orders leak like a very coarse sieve.

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  38. flipper (4,060 comments) says:

    Paulus (2,475 comments) says:

    July 17th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    I hope that the Malaysian with Diplomatic status returns soon as I would like to hear his QC Defence Lawyer have the little lesbian left wing activist girl on the stand, with many of the questions posed here and on Whale.
    I will be first in the court queue
    ******

    Let us not go back to that Paulus.
    That said, it will be great sport/entertainment to see what lurks beneath “the plank”, will it not?.

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  39. Ryan Sproull (7,143 comments) says:

    The problem stephie is the assumption that any and all forward movement is always progress. It may be, it may not be. I would rather deal with specific issues than just cite the date. Citing the date in and of itself does not tell me anything, and personally I think it’s a lazy way to make an argument, just as lazy as EAD’s use of the Matrix film to claim that if we all just swallowed his version of the red pill we would all think just like he does.

    For example, we have more pollution now than in 1764 due to the industrial revolution. Your opposed to pollution, so ergo you must want to take us back to 1764.

    See the problem?

    I think someone could say, “It’s 2014, not 1870,” to refer to women having the vote – without committing to “things are always better than they were earlier”.

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  40. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    Yeah, but we all know that giving women the vote was a massive mistake Ryan. ;)

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  41. eszett (2,408 comments) says:

    Nukuleka (190 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:09 am
    I note that the first same sex ‘marriage’ couple has separated after only a year of connubial bliss. Should we be surprised? Not at all. Same sex ‘marriage’ is nothing but a meaningless and sham mirage.

    Yeah, divorce is virtually unheard of amongst heterosexual marriages.

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  42. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    According to Statistics NZ “There are roughly 10,000 divorces and 20,000 marriages in NZ each year.”

    So a single gay divorce means very little.

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  43. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “And one of those irritating young female lefty fixed-view dorks in the crowd (one of the ones on a political mission – not enjoying a drink) said it’s telling women that they can’t dress how they want and go out when they want in case they invite sexual assault / rape.”

    apparently in yozas mind you condone rape. wtf.

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  44. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    I see today that the Greens are attempting to “woo NZ business” with R&D grants to “ween them off their dependence on agriculture and fossil fuels”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11294686

    Just why governments keep on believing they can pick winners better than anyone investing their own money I will never understand. From the National Party’s “think big” under Muldoon to the Labour parties purchase of “Kiwi Rail” (better give them a nice sounding name to make the economic vandalism sound sensible), NZ has a long history of Bureaucrat’s trying to pick winners and failing.

    Does anyone else think that the Greens by making energy and all energy derived products more expensive and then whining that the cost of living is too high makes them look very, very stupid?

    And that by ultimately making energy costs higher for businesses, it makes it harder for said businesses to pay their staff a “living wage” which the Greens campaign so ignorantly for?

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  45. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “According to Statistics NZ “There are roughly 10,000 divorces and 20,000 marriages in NZ each year.”

    So a single gay divorce means very little.”

    apparently there are 10,000 pies eaten at the average blues game, so a single gay divorce means very little.

    thats how relevant that stat is pg.

    how bout – how many straight people got married and divorced within the year, last year.

    gay marriages wont last as long as straight ones cause gays are more filthy. good on em i say

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  46. Manolo (13,765 comments) says:

    …when men make excuses for predatory sex and re-direct the blame and responsibility on the victims they give a tacit nod of approval to sexual predators.

    Another day. another lecture from the sanctimonious Mother Teresa of Dunedin.
    All males are potential rapists, shouts Dunne’s loyal servant.

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  47. Nukuleka (325 comments) says:

    I guess that one point that can be made about the separation of the first gay couple to be ‘married’ is that it was probably a bit of a hoot for them to be the FIRST, to get all the attendant publicity and to be, as the media put it, the ‘pioneers’.

    I can’t see that the divorce rate amongst heterosexual couples is particularly relevant. I wonder whether, in fact, this couple and other separating ‘married’ gay couples will even bother to go through the rigmarole of a divorce. If the ‘marriage’ is a patent sham then I guess the corollary is that the ‘divorce’ would be a sham as well.

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  48. Ross12 (1,425 comments) says:

    Given Dotcom’s comments earlier in the week it is time to simply review his residency permit , withdraw it and send him packing

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24480951/huge-cost-of-dotcom-case-revealed/

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  49. wiseowl (893 comments) says:

    Now for something important.
    It seems that the once riveting Super 12 is going to expand to Super 18.

    Its going to be like the Super City………screwed.

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  50. anonymouse (715 comments) says:

    The Independent Police Conduct Authority has just sent a great big torpedo into Russel Norman and Kim Dot Com’s GCSB/police/whoever conspiracy theories

    http://www.ipca.govt.nz/Site/media/2014/2014-July-17-Alleged-unlawful-interceptions-GCSB.aspx

    “An Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today on the Police investigation of the interception of private communications by officers of the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) has found that the Police decision not to prosecute was justified.”

    I am sure they will pore over this an look for some skerrick to continue thier belief that puppet masters are at work, but the Tide could finally be going out on all this mumbo jumbo….

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  51. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    EAD – my favourite new gree policy is heir govt app store. for “kiwi’ start ups who cant get their app onto the main ap stores.

    how shit does your app have to be not to go straight onto the apple/android stores?

    a sad attempt to keep people (stupid, selfish people) from going to the other communists.

    in the greens world only the almighty government can provide capital to start up! hence, google ws govt funded, apple etc etc

    from what i can tell – if your idea is shit but you include climate change in the submission you can have free money.

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  52. kowtow (8,463 comments) says:

    You may want to send Dotcom packing,but Dot and Liu,both “high rollers”,with political connections getting them into the country under murky circumstances it’s the system and politicians we should be looking at ,from all sides of the spectrum.

    I think the focus on the kraut un necessarily or even deliberatly takes the focus off the politicians involved.We should be holding them to account.

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  53. SGA (1,025 comments) says:

    dime at 9:46 am

    how bout – how many straight people got married and divorced within the year, last year.
    gay marriages wont last as long as straight ones cause gays are more filthy. good on em i say

    Can’t answer your question, closest I could find –
    http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/people_and_communities/marriages-civil-unions-and-divorces/MarriagesCivilUnionsandDivorces_HOTPYeDec10/Commentary.aspx

    Divorces by length of marriage
    Twelve percent of couples divorcing in 2010 had been married for four years or less. However, the most common length of marriage was 5–9 years (accounting for 24 percent of all divorces in 2010). The next most common marriage duration before divorce was 10–14 years (19 percent), followed by 15–19 years (14 percent), and 20–24 years (12 percent). Only 2 percent had been married for 40 years or more.
    Couples must be separated for a least two years before they can divorce. Statistics NZ does not have information on how long couples are separated before formally dissolving their marriage or how long they had been partnered before marriage. Some couples may be separated for much longer than two years before divorcing and some may separate but never divorce.

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  54. Left Right and Centre (2,975 comments) says:

    haha – I would never accuse our finest of revenue gathering but I’ve seen the parked up disco lights twice this morning just from my lounge window including right now – cha-ching !!

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  55. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “….Yeah, but we all know that giving women the vote was a massive mistake Ryan….”

    Teaching them to talk was the biggest mistake Shawn. :cool:

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  56. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    @ dime,

    So much of this shit we hear is so easy to rebut yet the MSM rarely bat an eyelid, nod along approvingly and will hail this “New” way of thinking as being wise and enlightened and anyone who disagrees is obviously a heretic.

    It’s Alice through the looking glass stuff

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  57. wiseowl (893 comments) says:

    Yes Kowtow and I asked before how many other ‘high rollers’ have the pollies let in that we don’t know about and where are they?
    The system stinks and all the pollies are in on it.

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  58. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Time to remove politicians completely from decision making on individual immigration cases. Haven’t they had enough troubles with such cases yet?

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  59. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    I note Shawn L H makes a rather spurious comparison when social attitudes back in the 1950s are compaed to day with Ian Thorpe coming out.The fallacious comparison with the industrial Revolution and it’s unexpected side effects like pollution is made ,I fail to see the validity of the comparison .It’s like comparing Apples with Breadfruit frankly.! .
    It’s beyond arguement that we here live in a better world over all even with the recognition of the need and desirability to control pollution.Nobody in their right minds would want to turn the social clock back to the 1950s
    It’s only a sick mind that would compare the likes of Thorpe coming out to Industrial pollution.But then there are those here who apparently would us go further and go back to the pre industrial age.?

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  60. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    Top Ten US based paranoid Conspiracy Theories including the Federal Reseve system.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/fall/patriot-paranoia

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  61. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “It’s only a sick mind that would compare the likes of Thorpe coming out to Industrial pollution”

    Actually, what I was pointing out stephie is that citing arbitrary dates does not make an argument. If you believe in gay rights you should be able to make the argument on it’s own merits. Just telling me the date is not an argument.

    In fact, you haven’t engaged with the real point I was making at all. You have just resorted to your usual tactic of putting words in someone else’s mouth, and made the usual silly insinuations about bigotry.

    “It’s beyond arguement”

    Nothing is beyond argument, and saying it is is often an admittance that you can’t actually make the argument.

    Try harder son.

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  62. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @Harriet

    What makes you think that women didn’t teach men how to talk?

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  63. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    From “Not even a statistic”

    I stayed, locked away for weeks, in my house while the bruising and swelling went down. Neither the police nor victim support called to follow-up which, in my state of mind, confirmed that what had happened wasn’t a big deal. I didn’t matter. I never filed a complaint. My rapist got away with it.

    I look at the furore occurring now in New Zealand over the allegations that a foreign diplomat sexually assaulted a NZ woman. I read online comments and a blog entry by a man having a whale of a time victim-blaming. What I see reassures me that letting a rapist escape charges was the best thing for me.

    I was raped, repeatedly raped, by a partner, a “friend”, and a virtual stranger. The police couldn’t be bothered. Nobody helped me. Am I just one, or one of hundreds, thousands even? I don’t know. I know that the statistics, damning enough as they are, are bullshit. My rapes aren’t amongst them. I’m not counted as a victim.

    But, at least, I wasn’t pilloried in the media and online. I wasn’t victimised again by public opinion. Women that do bring charges are incredibly brave and have quite possibly persisted through horrible questioning and despite belittling attitudes. They may well have had to fight just to get the police to make a record. They are the statistics. I’m the piece of paper the police couldn’t be bothered writing on.

    Sadly stories like this are far too common. We have major ongoing problems that affect many people directly and indirectly.

    And all some do is attack the victims and attack the messengers. We can ignore it (and the problems won’t go away) or we can speak up against it – the more who do the more effective it will be.

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  64. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    re: gay stats – a new statistics report by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the U.S says that the percentage of gays in the United States is 1.6%. Yep, that’s all. You’d think that there’d be more judging by the way every TV show and movie has a gay character.

    Results-Based on the 2013 NHIS data, 96.6% of adults identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The remaining 1.1% of adults identified as “something else,” stated “I don’t know the answer,” or refused to provide an answer. Significant differences were found in health-related behaviors, health status, health care service utilization, and health care access among U. S. adults aged 18-64 who identified as straight, gay or lesbian, or bisexual.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

    Because of the prevalence of gays on TV shows etc, young adults think the number of gay people is closer to 30%

    http://www.gallup.com/video/147827/Young-Adults-Women-Put-Gay-Population.aspx

    So, again, why change the marriage laws to accommodate the sexual practices of the 1.6% ?

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  65. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    The World Health Organization is reporting that the rate of HIV infection among young gays is growing so rapidly the agency is recommending for the first time that men who have sex with men take anti-viral drugs as a preventative.

    [...]

    The WHO announced, “Rates of HIV infection among men who have sex with men remain high almost everywhere, and new prevention options are urgently needed.” WHO reports that men who have sex with men are 19 times more likely to become infected with HIV than the general population and that those who are transgender are almost 50 times more likely.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/15/HIV-Explodes-Among-Gays-Transgenders-says-World-Health-Organization

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2014/key-populations-to-hiv/en/

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  66. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @Fletch

    “So, again, why change the marriage laws to accommodate the sexual practices of the 1.6% ?”

    ———————–

    Because it was the right thing to do.

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  67. oldpark (328 comments) says:

    Heard a ball aching guy called Russel ,Norman putting the boot into the police ,after his little boy complaint got turned down.Was wondering why an Australian would comment on NZ National security and attempt to jeopardise it just to make a political point.Even the Australian Government are right on ready tp prosecute or ban so called alleged jihad terrorists,with dual passports.Just letting you know Russel ,lest we forget.

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  68. Ed Snack (1,872 comments) says:

    Scott Chris, that article from the SMH is not just confused, it’s actively misleading. What they are saying in essence is that since the introduction of plain packing, monitored spending on tobacco products has dropped slightly. What they ignore is that average prices have dropped (because no brand differentiation) so the actual amount has increased. What’s worse, it is widely accepted but difficult to measure that illicit (black market) sales of tobacco products have increased and would further add to the increase in consumption; albeit by an unknown amount.

    Plain packaging has been an absolute disaster of a policy with no benefits at all, so it is no wonder that the SMH, and active supporter of left-wing control freakery, prints misleading articles trying to spin that away.

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  69. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @Ed Snack

    “so it is no wonder that the SMH, and active supporter of left-wing control freakery,”

    —————–

    The Sydney Morning Herald is owned by Fairfax, and the biggest shareholder in Fairfax in Gina Rinehart – Australia’s richest person and most certainly not a left-winger.

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  70. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Anyone need a laugh? Just scrolling through yesterdays GD…stumbled on dear old Judith who says she doesn’t read many of my posts…judging by the fact that she quickly responds when I mention her – or He who Cannot be Named – I call bullshit on that…

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  71. Manolo (13,765 comments) says:

    Is Labour’s Judith a he or a she? A new Georgina Beyer maybe?

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  72. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Manolo: sources tell me she’s a she…but she is extraordinarily sensitive about any details leaking out about her, so who knows for sure?…other than the universally rosy one she paints of herself of course…It appears she has no vices…is guilty of no past wrondoing

    And of course she wont be reading this, so there’s no chance of offending her…

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  73. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    Since ‘we’ were so minded to have Dotcom’s company, I wonder why we didn’t let him buy the house that he currently rents. Surely that would have been a ‘big’ welcome mat.

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  74. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    gump (1,462 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 11:17 am
    @Harriet

    What makes you think that women didn’t teach men how to talk?

    You make a good point, although anecdotal evidence is against you – we’ve never managed to teach them to put the toilet seat down, or to remember where their socks are kept – so the odds of being successful in teaching them how to talk are pretty slim. :P

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  75. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Manolo (13,264 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    I am a ‘she’, I am 56, I am not a labour support, but I am a ‘leftie’ now.

    I don’t use my real name, just like most people on here, however, do note that Garrett only plays that card to people that oppose him, and not to everyone.

    There is no reason for anyone to know who I am – just as there is no reason to know who you are. This is a blog, where people share opinions, we are not making decisions of state, or anything that is important enough to put our name on it.

    As I have also explained many times, I do not believe the internet is a safe place to put personal details, especially for a woman, and especially in my case, where I have a unique surname, and have dealt with serious offenders in the past. I certainly do no what any of those knocking on my door, anytime soon.

    I don’t know who I will vote for, but it won’t be Conservatives, National, or Labour. Currently I will probably vote for the Greens party vote. My local vote will entirely depend on the person, and not the party they stand for. IT has to be someone that will fight for what we want in this area, and as yet, I’m not sure who is on offer.

    Is Manolo your real name? I notice Garrett doesn’t take issue with you using it? It does worry me that he takes such an interest in wanting to know who people are on here – its also kind of ironic that he should have an issue with people not using their real names.

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  76. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    David Garrett (6,242 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 12:59 pm
    Manolo: sources tell me she’s a she…

    Good lord … you are obsessive enough about an internet blog to make inquiries as to who someone is?

    It is people like you Garrett, that make me not use my real name. Your habit of ‘calling people out’, inciting violence, and giving out your home address on line, despite the fact that you have young children that stay with you – is one of the most stupid and irresponsible things you can do. You have absolutely NO idea of who might be reading that, and could act upon it. Whilst I have no particular concern for you – I do for any children that might get caught up in such an altercation.

    Everyone has the right to privacy if they want it. It is up to you whether you believe them or agree with their opinion or not, but harassing them and being a bully because they chose not to share that information with you, only reaffirms they have made the right decision in the first place.

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  77. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,243 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    Don’t flatter yourself David, I read some of your posts sometimes, but not all of them, and had missed the one the other poster was talking about. I happened to log in at a time when yours was the latest post on here just now – so I read back to see what you were whinging about this time –

    Good to note you have so much spare time that you use it going over old threads to see what I’ve posted – just more evidence as to why a person shouldn’t reveal their identity on here, with such obsessed and unbalanced individuals as yourself stalking their every move. God knows what lengths you’d go to in the actual community – you’re a real worry.

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  78. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Ah Judith! Just happen to stumble upon my 12.48?

    You are correct that I don’t take issue with everyone using pseuds…I frankly don’t know why they all do it, but it is the norm…and also of course why those who govern us don’t take much notice of blogs.

    I generally only take issue with pseuds who have a go at me, NOT as you say, those who disagree… ?For example I disagree with Mikenmild most of the time, but he is never abusive or insulting, so I don’t regard him as “hiding”…as you are…

    And as for your supposedly amusing reference to my objection to “people not using their real names” do you think maybe four years (since the shit hit the fan) is long enough? I certainly do…as you don’t read my posts you may have missed one the other day in which I said I have finished apologising for my wrongdoing of 30 years ago…four years of apology is long enough…and I think most people on here agree…excepting sanctimonious prats like you…

    “Obsessed and unbalanced”…clearly your view is not shared by the Police who are quite happy for me to own firearms….

    Stalking? What on earth would be the point in stalking you?? You are not that important in my life honey…

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  79. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,244 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 1:22 pm
    Ah Judith! Just happen to stumble upon my 12.48?

    ———————————–

    Firstly I have been busy most of the morning so hadn’t been around.

    Secondly – I didn’t realise there was a time limit on being sorry for one’s wrong actions. I was always of the belief that if you are sorry – it is permanent. Frankly I could give two hoots about your crimes – but you have to admit, if you have any sort of sense of humour, its hilarious that you take issue with people using fake names! Even you must find that a tad amusing!

    Well, if I’m not important to you – why do you read back to the previous day to see what I’ve posted, continue to post about me, even when I’m not part of the conversation etc. I’m sure I’m not important to you in any real sense, but the evidence shows you make an effort to ‘check up on me’ – even to the point of ‘checking your sources’ – which sort of proves my point a bit.

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  80. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Don’t worry about either me or my children Judy…I am well able to defend myself and protect them..

    As for being open about where I live, I have met many cowards in my life, skulking in the shadows both actual and metaphorical…I have invariably found the best way of dealing with them is to front up…or invite them to…

    And please do point to where I have “incited violence”…

    Oh, and as for my “sources” about who you might be, believe it or not, a goodly number of people have e-mailed me with various suggestions…I am pretty open about the e-mail addy too…nothing to hide any more you see…good for the soul…you should try it..

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  81. wikiriwhis business (3,998 comments) says:

    CNBC: Rick Santelli Points Out the Fed is Preparing for Hyperinflation

    In today’s video, Christopher Greene of AMTV reports on a rant by CNBC anchor Rick Santelli.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg8_G2ZaVSQ

    We should listen to a financial professional before we listen to Stephieboy

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  82. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    The world is coming to an end…

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  83. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Oh, and you deliberately twist my words…”being sorry” and “apologising” are two quite different concepts…I will be sorry for indirectly inflicting pain on the boys relatives until the end of my days (I still believe it was cruel and unnecessary of the Police to tell them, since the damn passport had never been used for any purpose)…but that sorrow doesn’t mean I have to keep apologising until the end of my days..

    Pricks like you will keep bringing it up I am sure, but there is nothing I can do about that…

    The only reason I am curious about who you really are is I suspect from various inconsistent statements you have made that you have bullshitted about your involvement with victims…you claim to have had intimate involvement with BOTH victims and criminals, an other than the Police, I cannot think of anyone who would have close interactions with both…That and you coyness about what discipline you are supposedly a candidate for Phd suggests strongly that you are a bullshitter..

    Tauhei: The change can happen at any time between 40 and late 50’s as I understand it…Judith will know more; she knows most things..

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  84. Tauhei Notts (1,711 comments) says:

    I was surprised to read that “Judith” is 56 years old. I had gathered the impression that she was about 48 and experiencing change of life problems. There must be some other reason.

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  85. cricko (330 comments) says:

    I read “Day of the Jackal” 40 odd years ago and was intrigued by the method the
    Jackal used to obtain a false passport. (the method was spelled out in that book)

    I wondered if I could do it. I actually got to the point of visiting a couple of local cemetaries
    looking for a suitable gravesite.

    As luck would have it I didn’t find one and didn’t pursue the matter. (If I had I’m not sure that I
    would have actually taken the next step anyway)

    Thing is, I viewed the issue as an interesting exercise and did not consider any moral implications,
    in my mind it was an academic exercise if you like.

    Of course it would have been wrong, but I didn’t think of it as much of a crime.

    Some people do silly things when they are young. Even good people.

    You would need to be a particularly nasty, vindictive type to hold a youthfull mistake against an
    otherwise decent person for the rest of their lives.

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  86. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    It’s a bit pointless speculating about the personal characteristics of Kiwiblog commenters. For all intents and purposes, we are our comments.

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  87. Ed Snack (1,872 comments) says:

    Gump, Reinhardt is the largest shareholder but has been unable to gain a seat on the board so has at present zero influence on the paper. They refused her a board seat on the grounds that they wanted to be seen to be impartial and she wasn’t, which is a fine joke you’ll have to admit.

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  88. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @David Garrett

    “other than the Police, I cannot think of anyone who would have close interactions with both…”

    ———————

    Psychologists, counselors, therapists, nurses. There’s a number of people that work in both worlds.

    Does it really matter?

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  89. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Gump: No, it doesn’t really matter…which is why I find it very odd that she is so coy about what exactly it is she does… That and the inconsistent things she says…

    I am a litigator you see…probing for inconsistencies is part of what I do…I can’t help it…

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  90. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @Ed Snack

    She owns 15% of Fairfax – so it’s crazy to say that she has no influence on the company.

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  91. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11294019

    Well you have to say that the Chinese put their money where the dragon’s mouth is.

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  92. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    I spent the best part of a year not visiting Kiwiblog and when I came back I find philu gone but Judith seems to have take over from him.

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  93. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    mikenmild @ 1:38 pm
    The world is coming to an end…

    Strangely enough, a huge crater has opened up in Siberia for reasons that nobody knows at a place that translates as “end of the world”.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html

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  94. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    a place that translates as “end of the world”.

    Don’t know where you get that meaning from Fletch.

    Etymology[edit]
    Some sources say that “Siberia” originates from the old Turkic word for “sleeping land” or “beautiful” (Siber).[2] Another version is that this name was the ancient tribal name of the Sabirs, a nomadic people, later assimilated to Siberian Tatars. A further variant claims that the region was named after the Xibe people.[3] The modern usage of the name appeared in the Russian language after the conquest of the Siberian Khanate. The explanation that the name is derived from the Russian word for “north” (север, sever) has been put forward by the Polish historian Chycliczkowski,[4] but this explanation has been dismissed by Anatole Baikaloff[5] on the grounds that the neighbouring Chinese, Arabs and Mongolians (whose name for the region is similar) could not have known Russian. His own suggestion is that the name is a combination of two Turkic words, “su” (water) and “birr” (wild land).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia#Etymology

    Also: http://siberianlight.net/what-does-siberia-mean/
    ” Generally however, it is accepted that it derives from the Turkic term meaning sleeping land…”

    But it’s actually Yamal that means “end of the world”.

    The cause of the hole’s sudden appearance in Yamal – which translates as ‘the end of the world’

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  95. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Claimed to be due to global warming:

    Anna Kurchatova from the Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre, thinks the crater was formed by a mixture of water, salt and gas igniting an underground explosion, a result of global warming.

    Global warming may have caused an ‘alarming’ melt in the under-soil ice, released gas and causing an effect like the popping of a Champagne bottle cork, Ms Kurchatova suggests.

    Which is quite feasible.

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  96. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,249 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    Jeez you’re still going on. I’m amazed you find it so necessary, considering you clearly don’t agree with a word I say.

    As you correctly guessed some time back I worked for corrections, both in the courts, with parolees and eventually in Wellington in an advisory capacity on the new sentencing bill. When I left there, because in the end, you can only work with violent offenders for so long before it gets to you, I worked as a policy analyst for the gummit on a number of projects. I also volunteered for Victim Support – something many of my colleagues also did. Since then I’ve worked for a variety of organisations on contract, and finally decided to re-awaken my academic aspirations and now work and study at the same time as assisting the old boy with the family businesses.

    Now please point out where any of that is so inconsistent Garrett?

    The fact I don’t say exactly what I do to the minutest points, is that my political views have nothing to do with my employment, but I wouldn’t put someone like you to decide to hound me in my professional and private life because of them. Also, as I have said many times, I do not wish to have any of the unbalanced people I worked with in the past to look me up because they have a problem with receiving a certain sentence recommendation from me – it has happened before, and the results of that were pretty dramatic, which is why I am not on any electoral roll, or listed in the phone book. As a male I’m sure you can defend yourself, but I know for a fact, and from experience, I can’t. It would be absolutely ridiculous for me to reveal my identity on here and I don’t think it is too much to ask that you respect that.

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  97. Scott Chris (6,135 comments) says:

    Don’t know where you get that meaning from Fletch.

    From Yamal Pete, the place in Siberia where the crater is.

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  98. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    Have you thought of purchasing a firearm Judith (for defence purposes only, I mean)?

    If I had a history of being tracked down by crazy criminals, I’d own several.

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  99. Manolo (13,765 comments) says:

    When will Key have the balls to do this? Despite all Labour Lite’s protestations NZ does not need an ETS tax.
    http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-leading-article/9260971/hip-hip-hooray-2/

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  100. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Zapper (922 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    I’ve fired a shot gun on a couple of occasions and ended up flat on me butt, and completely missed the target. I think it would more of an annoyance to any attacker if I even tried. Besides my father always said I had the temper of an ‘irish washer woman’, so perhaps having weapons around me wouldn’t be such a good idea!! :-)

    I once complained to my boss about being locked in a cell with a serious offender, and having no ability to defend myself, he told me I got the job because they believed I had the skill to talk my way out of such situations!

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  101. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    Just watching ads on TV.
    Does anyone actually watch that Agent Anna show?
    It seems pretty low-grade entertainment to me…

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  102. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    Don’t know where you get that meaning from Fletch.

    No, no – not the name Siberia itself… The place IN Siberia called Yamal (as Scott Chris points out above).
    Did you actually read the article?

    The cause of the hole’s sudden appearance in Yamal – which translates as ‘the end of the world’ – in the far north of Siberia is not yet known.

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  103. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    “I read “Day of the Jackal” 40 odd years ago and was intrigued by the method the
    Jackal used to obtain a false passport. (the method was spelled out in that book)
    I wondered if I could do it. I actually got to the point of visiting a couple of local cemetaries
    looking for a suitable gravesite.”

    Connor McLeod did something similar in the 80’s Classic The Highlander!

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  104. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    Louisa Wall has been very quiet today- No bursting into Maori songs as she wipes away the tears??

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11294678

    Remember the gushing NZ media celebrated this like a Royal Wedding..
    Does anybody know what the Maori term for ‘Sham Marriage Publicity Stunt’ is??

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  105. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    I can sort of understand Judith not wanting to use her real name on here because she has a unique name. I mean if her name was Susan Smith, for example , she probably could use it. I use a pseudonym on here but quite a few supporters of a certain person [no names, no pack drill] know who I am because I have used my real name elsewhere. I have been threatened by at least on of those supporters on kiwiblog and at least another of those supporters, a double killer, who has his own blog, has also threatened me and called me a pedophile to boot, so there are crazies out there.

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  106. cha (4,011 comments) says:

    He is a patriot though, isn’t he Fletch.
    /

    Patrick Dollard ‏@PatDollard

    The libertarian movement is where Jewish fags who don’t want their Jewish mothers to know they’re Jewish fags go to vote. #tlot

    https://twitter.com/PatDollard/statuses/488482036663865344

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  107. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith says there are people [men] out there who insist it is not rape because the woman they have raped “was gagging for it”.
    While I have heard some men use that term, it is ,in my experience , a term that is used by only a very small minority and then generally when they have drunk a bit too much. They might see a woman flirting in a pub, and they might say “she is gagging for it” but they will have no intention of raping her although one or two of them might try to pick her up.

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  108. Lucia Maria (2,428 comments) says:

    I have to agree with Judith, here:

    There is no reason for anyone to know who I am – just as there is no reason to know who you are. This is a blog, where people share opinions, we are not making decisions of state, or anything that is important enough to put our name on it.

    As I have also explained many times, I do not believe the internet is a safe place to put personal details, especially for a woman, and especially in my case, where I have a unique surname, and have dealt with serious offenders in the past. I certainly do no what any of those knocking on my door, anytime soon.

    I’ve not dealt with serious offenders, but I have seriously offended people with my opinions, and some of them have issued some very nasty threats against me and my children. No sense in giving anyone like that any help finding me.

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  109. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    Fletch , as Peter George notes from the article the hole is thought to be a consequences of global warming. That’ll warm your heart.

    I wonder what Ugly Truth’s “scientific ” journal ‘ the Atlantean “makes of it.??

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  110. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    Don’t worry Muggins the Bain Fraternity called me a Kiddie Fiddler or something similar on here one night as well….I think it proves they have lost the argument when they resort to such rubbish..

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  111. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    You have to admit Judith is good for a laugh at times. First she says that it is nobody’s business who she votes for and then she tells everyone who she is thinking of voting for.
    And another thing. No-one on this blog reveals more of their life history than Judith. Mind you she has been known to contradict herself from time to time. Sometimes I can’t help wondering if there is more than one Judith.

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  112. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    “so one can presume then that if he was going about some work dressed in typical male attire – perhaps jeans and a t-shirt, looking all male and hot and sweaty, perhaps welding a hammer or such, and a homosexual man happened to desire some sex, and raped him – that would be okay – ”

    I’m sorry- But that post from Judith is so (typically) ridiculous I just can’t help it..

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  113. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business (3,834 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 1:37 pm,

    your stellar Christopher Greene,

    http://www.greenewave.com/boston-staged-terror-attack-viral-videos/

    Some kind of financial genius indeed.!!??

    A tinfoil hatter fruitcake would be rather more appropriate I would say.

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  114. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    I see Judith reckons we’ve [ meaning women] never managed to teach them [men] to put the toilet seat down or which drawer their socks are in.
    Maybe not the men in her family, but the men in mine, not a problem.

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  115. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    Some more priceless cant from Christopher Greene,

    http://12160.info/group/thepolicestateexposed/forum/topics/dhs-prepares-to-invade-u-s-christopher-greene-greenwave-tv

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  116. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    cha, I’m not sure exactly what you’re on about, sorry.

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  117. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    muggins, men know perfectly well how to use a toilet seat, women appear to have problems though. Do you ever hear us whinging about having to put it down?

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  118. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ muggins (2,974 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    I was joking Muggins. It is often a long standing joke that is used in a variety of places that ‘men don’t know how to put the toilet seat down’ – I really can’t believe you’d make an issue of such a comment. Seems there are some very humourless people about lately.

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  119. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (4,347 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    So what you are saying is that people aren’t allowed to call you names and insult you, but you are however allowed to do it to other people. Can you explain to me what is fair or consistent about that?

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  120. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Zapper (923 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    It’s all scientific Zapper, and majority wins.

    Not only is there more females than males, but if you consider the usage of a toilet seat it is clear that most often it needs to be down. Everytime a female uses it, she requires it down, and some of the time a male uses it, it is required to be down. Therefore, going by majority – ‘toilet seat goes down’ ! (who knows Cunliffe might pick up on this conversation and make it part of their policy – as its clearly an important issue) :P

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  121. flash2846 (284 comments) says:

    Thanks Longknives, The Village People were great. Here’s an interesting fact:

    THEY WERE NOT GAY! Watched an interview where the cowboy guy stated that the group purposefully did not talk about their sexuality back then. He also stated that four of the group are totally straight and one there is no confirmation.
    He was 42 at the time and said he has had no need to work since being in the group. He is on a well funded life long holiday.
    Lucky bugger!

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  122. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    If only someone would invent a toilet seat that in less than a second could be moved into the required position, because over the day it might cost someone up to 5 seconds of effort!

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  123. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Zapper (924 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    I agree – lost productivity is not good. I’m really surprised this issue hasn’t become a key one for the next election. We could have men apologising for making women sit on the cold porcelan and even technology grants for toilet seat innovation. One party could suggest timed toilet breaks and the other party could complain that was a breach of human rights, and promote the issue that toilet seats have risen in price, due to the immigration levels. The unions would no doubt have a lot to say, and in the end, one of the parties at least, is going to be ‘down the toilet’ – so its all quite pertinent.

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  124. wikiriwhis business (3,998 comments) says:

    Stephieboy….

    I was actually pointing out the professional coment of financial analyst Rick Santelli.

    Have you ever seen the high standard of guests Max Keiser has who all agree the Fed and leading US banks are corrupt and criminal and that the NY prosecutor is taking out law siuts against them. Goldman Sachs has been fined hundreds of millions thropugh their financial conspiracies. Not to mention the Libor fraud which the US treasurer failed to contact authooorities about instead telling the bank involved to ‘tone things down’ when he was legally supposed to advise on ther criminality to law enforcement agencies. He was supposed to be jailed for that.

    Why do you not know all this??????????????

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  125. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    ….” We could have men apologising for making women sit on the cold porcelan”…..

    Harden up woman! :)

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  126. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ nasska (10,538 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    So I take it you are not offering to ‘do a Cunliffe’ and apologise on behalf of your fellow man for making women sit on the cold porcelain, then?

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  127. lurcher1948 (151 comments) says:

    I love the raghead raping muslim rightwing lovers on this ultra rightwing blog.IGM and the idiot that follows could buy popcorn and yell out in court WHAT HOLE MOHAMMAD were you going to rape ,shes a NZ female green and gay rape her this is how the right do it in NZ
    This is what the average right wing posert on KIWIBLOG, think how raghead raping rapist muslims show treat NZ women and he got popcorn to watch the raped with IGM , sick posters as the muslims gone forever

    Paulus (2,475 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 9:18 am
    I hope that the Malaysian with Diplomatic status returns soon as I would like to hear his QC Defence Lawyer have the little lesbian left wing activist girl on the stand, with many of the questions posed here and on Whale.
    I will be first in the court queue,,, a kiwiblog poster ,must know Rolf H, ONE SICK FUCKWIT but 2475 sick posts

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  128. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “We should listen to a financial professional before we listen to Stephieboy”

    Stephie can say some silly things, but I would listen to him before I would listen to any conspiracy theorist, especially ones like you WB who think the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ is a credible source of information.

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  129. wikiriwhis business (3,998 comments) says:

    “WB who think the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ is a credible source of information.”

    Listen to Max Keiser and esp his creme of the crop financial experts and you would learn so much more

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  130. wikiriwhis business (3,998 comments) says:

    “your stellar Christopher Greene,

    http://www.greenewave.com/boston-staged-terror-attack-viral-videos/

    Some kind of financial genius indeed.!!??”

    Stephie

    C Greene spent much time in the NY stock Exchange learning what really went on when you haven’t. No wonder I would listen to him first. He has actual credentials.

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  131. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    Wiki . did he indeed work on the NY stock exchange.?

    Ending up with this moonbat garbage,

    https://endzog.wordpress.com/tag/christopher-greene-am-tv/

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  132. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    “but I have seriously offended people with my opinions, and some of them have issued some very nasty threats against me and my children”

    Sadly Lucia Maria I can say the same. Everybody thinks this blogging is a bit of fun, however there is no fun when people steal your identity and cause havoc within family and friends. Unfortunately there are some extremely disturbed bloggers that lurk on these forums whose only mission in life is to cause misery for anybody who dare challenges their opinion. I could name one who has caused considerable anxiety for my children and this creep is a regular on this blog. I have serious concerns about the mental stability of such people because their psychotic hatred makes me fearful for my children. How far will these cowardly- sick units go? I wish they would abuse my children to my face but these cowardly creeps hide behind anonymity . Take care. Peter Burns.

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  133. Lucia Maria (2,428 comments) says:

    Hi Peter,

    Take care yourself, as well! And don’t let the creeps get you down.

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  134. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Who’s the double killer with his own blog?

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  135. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    That Lurcher seems an angry chap!

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  136. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    “Take care yourself, as well! And don’t let the creeps get you down.”

    Thank you Lucia Maria. The creeps only make my faith stronger.

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  137. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Lurcher: Clearly a man who is fond of the old drinkers adage “It’s after 5pm somewhere in the world”…

    Peter Burns: (If that is your name) why bother with the pseud?? funnily enough, I would be one of the very few on here who openly states where he lives and his e-mail addy…I don’t seem to have any problem with “creeps” e-mailing me or coming round…and I don’t think I am that scary…

    Dime: there are only about 20 double killers alive in New Zealand…one of them is a regular on this blog…most of them are in jail…you can probably work out the rest for yourself…Quite why our gracious host is so protective of the prick is a bit of a mystery to me, but that’s all I am going to say..

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  138. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    DG – struth. Had no idea. I guess if he’s done the time..

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  139. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    Wasn’t Peter Burns the lead singer of Dead or Alive?

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  140. Steve (North Shore) (4,561 comments) says:

    Judith from here is Judith Tizard I reckon. The hat fits perfectly.
    Speaking of hats, anyone who has not worked out who Judith may be, is wearing a tin foil hat.
    I have been wrong before – once – a long time ago – hard to remember

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  141. cricko (330 comments) says:

    Oh jeez,

    now I’m hooked.

    A double murderer, a regular on this blog ?

    Makes me sick to hear that.

    Fuck, I hope I have never discoursed with him.

    We now know who the sick fuck ex politician and ex All Black sex sicko, disgrace to all NZ men is,
    lets figure out who this POS is.

    Give us a clue.

    And if he has name supression (it is a him, right?)
    Surely that proves that the name suppression laws in our country are a fuckup.
    PS I don’t give a fuck if he has done the time or not, what’s his name ?

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  142. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    DG and Longknives

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/general_debate_14_february_2010.html

    dad4justice (7,682 comments) says:

    February 14th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    David, when are we using our real names on here?
    With respect
    Peter Burns.

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  143. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    Kudos to D4J for revealing his name. Here’s his up to date photo. :)

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpgaz5gkoil5anh/D4J.jpg

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  144. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    Who was the All Black ‘Sex Sicko’ Cricko is referring to? Did I miss something??

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  145. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    Think of a rose bush and thorns or a toupee.

    narsekisser – stick to your anal beads you silly old perverted cocky.

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  146. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    dime: I expected more from you…”done the time” for a second killing, after having “done the time for the first”?? How much time do you think one should “do” for a SECOND killing? For me, its die in jail time…

    Cricko: The prick does NOT have any kind of suppression..he has sued – and failed spectacularly – about supposed breaches of his “right to privacy”

    As I have said, for reasons I don’t understand, DPF will not allow him to be named here, or even heavy hints dropped…which is why I am not dropping any…

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  147. cha (4,011 comments) says:

    Strangely enough, a huge crater has opened up in Siberia for reasons that nobody knows at a place that translates as “end of the world”.

    Seems it might be a kimberlite pipe.

    Kimberlite is a diamondiferous igneous-rock matrix composed of carbonate, garnet, olivine, phlogopite, pyroxene, serpentine, and upper mantle rock, with a variety of trace minerals. Kimberlite occurs in the zone of the Earth’s crust in vertical structures known as kimberlite pipes (above, right). Kimberlites are found as “dikes” and “volcanic pipes” which underlie and are the source for rare and relatively small volcanoes or “maars” (above, left). Kimberlite pipes are the most significant source of diamonds, yet only about 1 in every 200 kimberlite pipes contain gem-quality diamonds. Many kimberlite pipes also produce alluvial diamond placer deposits.

    http://www.allaboutgemstones.com/diamond_geology.html

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  148. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    cricko

    Are you saying that there is a Gay All Black?

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  149. cricko (330 comments) says:

    Does Soulan Pounceby (or what ever he calls himself these days) post on this blog ?

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  150. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    cricko

    Is this gay All Black from Canterbury?

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  151. stigie (1,173 comments) says:

    BB, some thought a while back that Nono is gay, but will have to wait and see ?

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  152. cricko (330 comments) says:

    And no, big bruv

    I am not saying that but, much as it irks me there seems to be a syndrome that whatever your crime may be
    you get special consideration from the Judges if you are a “famous” NewZealander of a type.
    ( the type that can engage a Q C )

    On the other hand, what would the point of having an “old boys network” if the old boys didn’t come home for
    you.
    They look after each other.
    Pay the money, the old boy network will always see you right.

    It’s so fricken sick, but so sadly true.

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  153. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    DG – im struggling to get worked up about it. the flu has dropped me like a sack of shit.

    as i used to tell my best mate when i visited him in jail.. if i were PM he would be there for 50 years, not 14.. once youve done your time though.. im not gonna go out of my way to get angry or hate someone for it.

    unless they have been messing with kids.

    for all i know the guy killed two losers in a drug deal.

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  154. cricko (330 comments) says:

    big bruv

    try thinking about a prick that sported a permed haircut.
    A prick that was a failed rubby commentator.

    Surely you get it now.

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  155. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    cricko,
    There is a double killer posts regularly on kiwiblog but he isn’t a double murderer.
    He was first sent to prison after being found guilty of manslaughter and then later on he was sent to prison again for murder.
    He was “outed” on kiwiblog a year or so ago.

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  156. Fletch (6,386 comments) says:

    BB, some thought a while back that Nono is gay, but will have to wait and see ?

    Maybe he should “come out” and say that he is, even if he isn’t. It seems to be the popular thing to do at the moment.

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  157. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    At the going down of the sun and in the morning. nasska will be fighting his patch! :)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10275394/Eketahuna-a-town-too-proud-to-die

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  158. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    I wonder why people bother about trying for name suppression nowadays. All they really accomplish is to spark public interest & a contrary desire many of us have to beat the system.

    If Peter Jones of Wellington gets caught with his hand in the till or Dave Smith of Hamilton is found to be diddling little boys then a bit of tut-tutting is in order. Yet even if the names rang bells sooner or later something more attention riveting would loom on the horizon & all would be forgotten.

    Instead when faced with the arrogance that typifies too many of the judiciary, who grant suppression on the flimsiest of pretexts, I become Sherlock Holmes personified. Every detail is noted….every clue is analysed & usually it is possible to make the connection. When this fails it’s on the phone to an old mate who’s a retired reporter & he invariably knows the miscreant’s identity.

    Point is that if the legal profession, journalists & a poor old cocky from the blackblocks can get around suppression orders then how can even the dinosaurs of the bench think they accomplish anything?

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  159. cricko (330 comments) says:

    OK c’mon dime.

    We’ve heard you talk about your best mate before.

    Name him.

    If not, why not ?

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  160. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    The world is coming to an end…

    Old news…

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  161. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    You’ve missed a few on the other threads Minus! :)

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  162. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    cricko

    Nope, that does not make it clear at all. You will have to be a bit more specific.

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  163. Reid (16,447 comments) says:

    Seems it might be a kimberlite pipe.

    Yes. Shame diamonds are worthless baubles but for marketing genius (or evil depending on your mileage), ain’t it.

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  164. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    Johnboy!!

    Where the fuck have you been?

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  165. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    We’re going downhill JB…..I blame it on the lack of parking. :)

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  166. Ryan Sproull (7,143 comments) says:

    Shawn,

    Don’t know if you’re on GD tonight, but I just heard a really interesting interview with a Native American cartographer on National Radio that you might enjoy. I’m sure it’ll be up on their website soon.

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  167. stigie (1,173 comments) says:

    Jesus Nasska, you will able to drive around Eke with no rego or wof soon….think of the savings !~

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  168. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    nasska (10,545 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 7:42 pm
    We’re going downhill JB…..I blame it on the lack of parking.

    We’ve cut back on parking spaces to get ready for when the Greens take over and you have to ride your bike, or in some cases, your tricycle here. :-)

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  169. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Once the Aussie communist gains power and new railway track and cycleway cuts through the heart of Eke nasska I’m sure you guys will reap rewards and you’ll all get a new Pak’n Save and Countdown in the main street to replace your 4 square! :)

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  170. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    cricko – not friends anymore.

    i dont like to name names.. but if you were to google something along the lines of body in the boot.. auckland.. 1996..

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  171. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    dime

    Without going into specifics might I ask you why you fell out with this guy?

    I know from talking to you over a number of years that you two used to be very close indeed.

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  172. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Us Wainui chaps are getting a re-vamped mall and that’s even before we get Trev’s Moa breeding program underway! :)

    Fuck the future looks bright! :)

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  173. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    I’ve been crying a lot bb.

    I’ll be alright come this Saturday! :)

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  174. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    bruv – i now call him clayton weatherston jr. he hasnt broken any laws since hes been out. just your run of the mill narcissist.

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  175. stigie (1,173 comments) says:

    “I’ll be alright come this Saturday!”

    Why is that JB, have you bribed the other team to lose ?

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  176. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “Don’t know if you’re on GD tonight, but I just heard a really interesting interview with a Native American cartographer on National Radio that you might enjoy. I’m sure it’ll be up on their website soon.”

    Hey thanks for the heads up Ryan. much appreciated. I’ll check it out as soon as it’s available.

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  177. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Here it is guys. …See what you can achieve if you have a desperate timeserver like Trev in your corner! :)

    http://fairfaxmedia.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

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  178. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    Dime

    I am genuinely sorry to hear that. From what you have told me about your relationship this guys owes you a lot.

    Still, if he is a narcissist then you are better off without the guy in your life, strikes me that he would be better to spend his remaining years trying to atone for his past crimes rather than deciding that the world revolves around him.

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  179. Steve (North Shore) (4,561 comments) says:

    Dime, if you need rest for the man flu, just leave the TV on channel ONE – with no sound.
    Sleep is the cure man.
    Edit: I have just had 7 weeks of shit, you don’t know how crook you were until you start getting better. Anyone not had a fluvac? I want to see you and give you a messege

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  180. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ big bruv (13,111 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Not defending this guy BB, but often when offenders have been in prison for a long time, they do become self absorbed, because that’s all they have in there. Their whole world is about looking after themselves, so when they get out, they carry on the same and become quite unbearable sometimes – especially for those that knew them before their offending.

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  181. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Have you traded that gutless 270kw shitter for the real thing yet Judith? :)

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  182. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    dime: I can tell you 100% for sure that this prick didn’t kill two losers in a drug deal…in fact (and it must be the flu) you seem to have missed the fact that his two killings were years apart…He served time for the first – you know the old saying about the difference between manslaughter and murder being a good lawyer – and then AFTER he had done the time for the first, he came out and killed again…and his second victim was certainly not a drug dealing loser…

    And I am happy to confirm that one of my aims in life is to see this prick back in jail…and without wishing to be melodramatic, the price of him returning might be my life…I am prepared to risk that… although I suspect the cowardly POS wont come beyond the boundary of my property…after all I am not a defenceless young girl…

    Oh…and here’s his defender…she’s never met him (so she says) but she has decided he is both really sorry for his crimes, AND a better man than me…Judy, you make me puke…

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  183. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Whisky and lemon is great for the man flu. Just make sure your wife takes at least two nips every half hour, and she won’t be the least bit affected by your symptoms, Dime. :P

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  184. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    You’ve got Catholics again this week. Things are not looking good for your lot are they.

    Meanwhile, the mighty Ories have an easy game against Petone so they will slip into the top four.

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  185. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (14,802 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    No, he won’t damn well let me. Clearly I need to put more laxative in his coffees.

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  186. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    DG – he sounds like a charmer!

    “difference between manslaughter and murder being a good lawyer” – yeah my buddy would have got manslaughter if he had just shut up.

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  187. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    steve – i had a flu shot! been having them for 3+ years.. this is the first time ive been hit in.. 3+ years!

    its cause i think im above the law.. i go around licking door handles etc

    judith – not married! told the future mrs dime to stay away, she doesnt need this heh

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  188. big bruv (13,887 comments) says:

    Judith

    Given the comments of one particular contributor to this blog it is clear that you do not have to spend time in prison to become self absorbed.

    Mind you, having said that for all I know he may have spent quite a bit of time locked up.

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  189. Don the Kiwi (1,750 comments) says:

    Anyone not had a fluvac? I want to see you and give you a messege

    I’ve never had one Steve.

    I’m fortunate that I’ve always had a great immune system. Occasionally (every 2 or 3 years) I get a cold or cough which hangs around for a week or two, but doesn’t affect me much.
    Haven’t had the ‘flu for about 5 or 6 years now. As you know, the virus mutates. About every 5 or 6 years I get a dose of ‘flu and it knocks the shit out of me for a week or so, but then get over it, and sweet for another 5 or 6 years.
    I’m 72 now and still I seem to have my immune system in fine fettle. I’m pretty regular and have a crap at 7.15 am each morning. Most of the bugs I get can’t handle it, so they catch the 7.15 am to make sure they stay safe and alive. :-)

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  190. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ dime (9,336 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Actually, in all seriousness, do take care of yourself. The current flu doing the rounds is a really bad one, and apparently lots of people are getting severe complications from it. Don’t try and push it, as a couple I know thought they were over it, went back to work and ended up twice as sick.

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  191. Steve (North Shore) (4,561 comments) says:

    New dialogue Dime, ‘nips’ every half hour. What a teaser.
    Go to sleep man, stop thinking about females nipping. Far Canal

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  192. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    ” I’m pretty regular and have a crap at 7.15 am each morning.”

    Way too much information there Don! ;)

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  193. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    ….” I’m pretty regular and have a crap at 7.15 am each morning”….

    Before or after you wake up Don? :)

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  194. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    As long as you wake up at 7:14 each morning you should be OK Don! :)

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  195. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Same thing every election year, sooner or later the conversation turns to crap!

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  196. Don the Kiwi (1,750 comments) says:

    Shit you guys are bloody dags. :lol:

    Yeas Nasska, I’m awake – get up most mornings arond 6.30am. And just to forestall any wisecracks, my wife gets up for a shower at around 6.15 am. – and not through any action of mine – or anyone elses for that matter :-)

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  197. HB (321 comments) says:

    there have been quite a few in Intensive Care, Hawkes Bay Hospital with the flu this winter. One of them passed away.

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  198. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith,
    Re my comment about toilet seat, it was only a wind-up, surprised you thought I was being serious.

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  199. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Funnily enough Don, being almost a proud Winston card holder and a constant target for my Quack (who keeps exhorting me to have bloody flu injections). I don’t think I’ve had the flu or much of a cold for at least ten years.

    I put it all down to the constant level of alcohol I try to maintain in my blood! :)

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  200. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith,
    I’ve been meaning to ask you , do you reckon Peter Dunne will get in again? I mean you know him, having worked in his office.

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  201. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Did Peter get into Judith once muggins? :)

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  202. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    muggins: she’s worked everywhere…and has this amazing insight about people she has never met…or so she says…who would know??

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  203. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ muggins (2,977 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    I have not ‘worked’ in his office. I have assisted on select committees that he was on.

    You and Garrett need to get over your obsession. I’m still waiting for Garrett to point out the inconsistencies, he’s starting to sound very unbalanced – “she’s worked everywhere” Really Garrett, where did I say that? I’ve always worked, I’ve worked since I was 12 years of age when I had a paper round – of course in forty years since I left school I’ve had various jobs, but I’ve never said I’ve worked everywhere, so I’m really interested to see you quote where I have said I did!

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  204. stephieboy (3,046 comments) says:

    I like this from the TM Message board,

    ACT 0.1% Freemarket Champions

    Super City Failure….
    Where is Rortny…….
    Where are the FreeMarket Goon….supporters..
    ACT….Started by Labour FreeMarket Goons Douglas and Prebble.
    ACT terminal, condition satisfactory.

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  205. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    “I was 12 years of age when I had a paper round – of course in forty years ”

    How did you become 52 just now when you were 56 a couple of nights ago Judith?

    If you’ve discovered the elixir of life I reckon nasska, Don and I will all be interested! :)

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  206. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    I’ll never forget how happy I was when I saw my missus walking down the aisle towards me. My heart was beating fast and the excitement was unbearable. It seemed to take an age, but eventually there she was, standing beside me. I gave her a loving smile and said “Get that trolley over here love. They’re doing 3 cartons of beer for the price of 2″.

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  207. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (14,806 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    God not you too? IN THE FORTY YEARS SINCE I LEFT SCHOOL – read it again Johnboy!

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  208. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    You left school at 16 Judith! Most of us educated folks stayed till 18.

    Were you preggers and got expelled? :)

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  209. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    Evening Stephie,

    Did you read this article Brandon Smith wrote today on the reasons we fight the new world order?

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2231-the-reasons-we-fight-the-new-world-order

    You should read it, it’s an excellent article :)

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  210. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (14,807 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    No, I went to Tech and did a Business Course.

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  211. Don the Kiwi (1,750 comments) says:

    Yeah Johnboy.

    Get yer shit togather – can’t you do basic sums? You know – 13 + 40 is 54.

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  212. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Judy: I thought my life’s journey had been pretty varied, but yours is MILES more impressive…you tell us tonight – in an unusual bout of candour – that you have worked in Corrections with offenders…you also tell us you have also worked extensively with victims (although you don’t tell us in exactly what capacity)…now we learn that you have “assisted on Select Committees”…but not in what capacity? The lady who makes the tea and wheels it in? As a parliamentary official perhaps, one of those who actually make the SC’s run? As some sort of advisor? Who knows? Who really cares?

    And then you fantasise about me “stalking” you…let me record here: other than a matter of pure curiosity – and amusement at the inconsistencies of what you say about yourself – I really couldn’t give a rat’s about who you are, where you live, what jobs you have done…to me you are just another anonymous warrior on the interweb…in fact your defining characteristic for me is as Chief Defender and apologist for He who Cannot be Named…although you claim never to have met him…THAT is pretty disturbing…but others will make their own judgments…

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  213. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith,
    Re Peter Dunne
    I can’t find that post, it was well over a year ago, but I am pretty sure you mentioned working in his office. But I won’t make an issue of it.

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  214. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    And you’ve obviously been minding everybody else’s business since you matriculated Judith! :)

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  215. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith, do you remember the time when you said a certain dog’s name was spelt Kaycee in a retrial transcript you had access to and then when I called you on it, because I had a copy of the same transcript and the dog’s name was never spelt that way, you replied that it was spelt Kaycee in your copy because you had changed the spelling yourself?

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  216. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Sorry Don. I used to be really good at maths, got 3 in school cert. Must be the piss that’s addling the calculator finger! :)

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  217. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith,
    Care to remind us how many children you have?

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  218. muggins (3,711 comments) says:

    Judith,
    How is that Doctorate coming along? Should we know be referring to you as Dr Judy?

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  219. Reid (16,447 comments) says:

    He who Cannot be Named…

    Crikey. How mysterious.

    It’s not Pete George is it Dave?

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  220. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,261 comments) says:
    July 17th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    I’ve had a great life and done plenty, as well as raised five kids. I’m sorry if you find that unusual, but its not any different to many women. My parents made us get part time jobs when we were young to teach us responsibilities. When I left school we were encouraged to get tertiary education. I married and had my first children at 20. When I was 32 I got my first degree.

    Obviously you care David, because you are constantly making reference to me and what I’ve done. I’ve told you before why I won’t give details that reveal my identity and why, but you aren’t happy with that, instead you persistently try to bully me into giving you those details. Clearly for someone that insists they care so much for law and order, you are happy to compromise my safety by insisting on those details. That makes you an arsehole.

    I told you I volunteered for Victim Support, but then you conveniently forget that, and keep repeating the same claims that you haven’t been told. If you had half a sober brain you’d know that they don’t employ people with degrees as tea ladies for select committees but that doesn’t suit your agenda, so you continue to snoop and bully.

    I’ve answered every question I can for you, but still you rave on and frankly David, you’re really starting to become a little over the top on this. I cannot and will not as a female say who I am.

    I have not met him, and I don’t need to. I know that in the long period of time he has been out of prison he has not reoffended. He has built his own business and made a success of that. He works hard and has put his offending history behind him and got on with life in a manner that is a credit to him and an example to other offenders who claim it is impossible to get their lives together. He gives a lot of time to the community and his children and as far as I’m concerned deserves to be allowed to get on with his life. But you won’t do that – you constantly goad him and try to push him because you cannot stand the fact that he won’t bow down to you. You are the person with the problem Garrett, not him. He’s paid his dues.

    Now get off my back and pull your fucking head in – I will never tell you who I am for the reasons I gave earlier today, so stop trying to find out. You are nothing but a fucking bully.

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  221. Steve (North Shore) (4,561 comments) says:

    Don,
    “Anyone not had a fluvac? I want to see you and give you a messege

    I’ve never had one Steve.

    I’m fortunate that I’ve always had a great immune system. Occasionally (every 2 or 3 years) I get a cold or cough which hangs around for a week or two, but doesn’t affect me much.
    Haven’t had the ‘flu for about 5 or 6 years now. As you know, the virus mutates. About every 5 or 6 years I get a dose of ‘flu and it knocks the shit out of me for a week or so, but then get over it, and sweet for another 5 or 6 years.
    I’m 72 now and still I seem to have my immune system in fine fettle. I’m pretty regular and have a crap at 7.15 am each morning. Most of the bugs I get can’t handle it, so they catch the 7.15 am to make sure they stay safe and alive. :-)

    You are the carrier of the flu bug/s
    Think like you were a super virus and want to spread. Why pick on unhealthy hosts? Pick on the super fit!
    These are smart bugs, smarter than you think.

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  222. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Thank goodness you’ve arrived Reid. We’re burning Judith later on! :)

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  223. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Too late David’s set her on fire already! :)

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  224. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    You did bring the incantations & a box of matches with you Reid? :)

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  225. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Seems to have gone a bit quiet round here. Just when it was getting exciting too! :)

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  226. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    You can go argue with Reddy on the inflation thread. Though I would advise a stiff drink first. That boy is not all right in the head. :)

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  227. Don the Kiwi (1,750 comments) says:

    Been watching “Ressurection” on Channel 2 – intriguing.

    Not the real ressurection though – if it was, we wouldn’t be here would we. :-)

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  228. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    I think all us ancient bastards should consider holding out some hope for that happy occasion though Don! :)

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  229. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    ….”Not the real ressurection though – if it was, we wouldn’t be here would we”…..

    If there was a resurrection it would only be happening in your head Don…..we’d still be here. :)

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  230. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    “I killed my first gator with a knife when I was 11. In my time I have worked as a bouncer and a body guard.”

    Hey Shawny Boy are you the transvestite big brother of bigot blouse?

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  231. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    You wait till Russel’s plan resurrects Eketahuna nasska.

    Your head will be spinning! :)

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  232. cricko (330 comments) says:

    Hey Judith.

    It’s not all about you. That’s why you go so wrong.

    End of story.

    No matter who and why whatever hurts you. Others had faced worse.

    We all feel sory for you. Poor Judith.

    But.

    Suck it up you poor, pathetic sad sack..

    The world dont owe you a living.

    Get it babe ?
    We don’t give a shit about your personal problems.

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  233. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    I had to cut a gaiter off of my leg once with a knife. I slipped down a bank and it got caught in a tree branch and here was I hanging upside down in the dark scary bush so I whipped out my trusty gerber and slashed it off then I fell on my head.

    I woke up about half an hour later with a sore head and a sore arse.

    I sometimes wonder what made my arse so sore! :)

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  234. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    ….”I woke up about half an hour later with a sore head and a sore arse.”…..

    Thus was born the legend of Wainuiomata Goatse Man. :)

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  235. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    Hey Johnboy kiwiblog has its very own Crocodile Shawnee.

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  236. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    I never realised merlin frequented Cone Ridge till now nasska!

    I may give birth to his spawn anytime now! :)

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  237. cricko (330 comments) says:

    And guess what. Judith @ 9.07
    You are just full of it.

    And I say that most sincerely.

    Jeez, if I took up as much time as that to explain how great a person I was I could have done
    a better job.

    You fool.

    Guess what, Nobody gives a fuck as to who you are.

    Suprise, suprise.

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  238. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    But Judith had a lot of greatness to get into her time cricko.

    You of course could get all of your greatness into the time it takes a Higgs Boson to self annihilate! :)

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  239. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    Oh what fun it’s all been tonight! See y’all later! :)

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  240. Rowan (2,345 comments) says:

    David Garrett @ 8.08
    I suggest you get over your unhealthy obsession with him and get a life, your regular rants here shows us that you are an obsessed lunatic

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  241. Rowan (2,345 comments) says:

    Congratulations
    The broken record on here can spell, I’m just waiting for the day he contributes anything to kb that is factual or relevant, the correct spelling of a dogs name!!! Who gives a crap!

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  242. cricko (330 comments) says:

    Hey Johnboy,

    I always appreciate your clever wit.
    The 9.56 effort was a good one.
    many may not have got it.
    Good one.
    Onya.

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  243. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    Hey D4J, poor old Reddy was getting out of hand, and needed a friendly heads up.

    By the way, have you figured out that your not the second coming of the Messiah yet? :)

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  244. Redbaiter (8,822 comments) says:

    Big White Hunter Shawny forgot to mention the gator he killed with his big knife was only 10cm long.

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  245. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    I’m not white Reddy boy, I’m Métis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Métis_people_(United_States)

    Silly child. :)

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  246. cricko (330 comments) says:

    ShawnLH , so you reckon Judith is a chick ?

    Get real. You sook.

    And good luck to your family.
    And I mean that most sincerely.
    Cough, cough!

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  247. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “ShawnLH , so you reckon Judith is a chick ?”

    I never commented on the issue. Probably because it’s an infantile subject to be debating.

    Your a bit of a sad little creep, aren’t you.

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  248. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    I’m currently on business overseas (hence the apparent odd hours post) and I’ve been following the trading screens as news of the Malaysian Airlines flight that has just crashed in the Ukraine has filtered in. NB: Gold is spiking dramatically at the moment in response….

    Interesting to note that within minutes of the plane hitting the ground “they” already had this whole thing figured out and who is to blame. The who, where, how and why. Almost like they knew this might happen….

    As such, this leads me to believe that this has got false flag written all over it and it will be used to justify military action somewhere in the world

    Note at 3.50am the NZ Herald and Stuff are not yet covering this so I expect it to be all over local news in the morning.

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  249. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    1 article on the BBC, 1 article on the Telegraph, none on the NZ MSM

    7 articles on Zerohedge covering it from all angles.

    Stuff the legacy MSM – there is a reason so many love Zerohedge and their cutting analysis.

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  250. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Rowan: I have a very full life thank you…You are entitled to your (anyonymous) opinions about me and my motivations..

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