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Rolf Harris has just been found guilty of multiple sexual offences and it has been revealed that he sexually molested girls and young women throughout his career, his behaviour was tolerated and he had won numerous awards. The victims felt powerless to question his behaviour and were not listened to if they did. The shocking thing is that this is not just an historical situation, this sick culture is a continuing one.
Netflix and others available through Slingshot, at a 10th of what you pay for Sky, and the best Sky intends to offer is a channel that recycles their own programming but on demand. It was a toss up between back to back Super Rugby and back to back episodes of Breaking Bad, Damages and Longmire. With $120 a month to spend on popcorn. No brainer.
I don’t believe we have a rape culture but we will always have men trying it on and making a cock-up. What the feminists don’t like to admit is that out of x women, y go off with a bang. Educating (young) men needs to take this realistic position into account.
I see Lucy Lawless now has a monthly column in the Herald. Today’s one is predictably about global warming. Why does The Herald think the opinions of a crap actress should have any relevance to it’s dwindling readership? Newspapers are often called tomorrows fish and chip wrapper, The Herald should be yesterday’s.
Seems a complete crock when the white man is blamed for all the ills of Maori and we pump millions into assisting them, yet the Maori leadership (very loose term) does nothing to actually draw a line in the sand and make it clear what isn’t acceptable.
Having the Maori heir let off for what anyone else would have been convicted for is a complete joke and displays why nothing will change for Maori in the next 100 years.
Imagine if JK’s son had have been in this situation and Max got let off due to his fathers position in society?
The fact Paki had been on bail for the drink driving incident when he carried out the burglary and theft was “an aggravating factor” he said, which separated him from his three co-accused.
Paki’s friends — Te Ahorangi Totorewa, 20, Hamuera Wipoha Pugh, 19, and Raa Ngaru Smith, 18 — were all discharged without conviction in Gisborne District Court on Monday over the March burglary and theft incident.
And left off the more serious offender means his lesser criminal friends can’t be convicted
See – one law for all
If Paki, who blew a reading almost double the legal adult alcohol level, drink drives again but kills someone, is the judge complicit?
Manolo @ 9.02 on parenting skills.
And the Herald reports that Paki will become a father in September. Let’s hope that the support now being given to him is not only effective, but also enduring; otherwise, we can expect a repeat of this 19 years from now.
Sadly, based-upon casual observation, and the fact that he is no stranger to the Justice system (although hopefully I will be proven wrong), it is probable that, at some future date, Mr. Paki will once again grace the accused’s benches. If that should happen, one has to wonder under what feeble pretence he will be ‘let off’ again.
Evidently one mustn’t rock the boat, tell the truth, or ‘disturb the natives'; especially one who has ‘connections’ to unrecognised ‘royalty’.
As others have correctly pointed-out, ‘influence and future ‘position’ tops ‘Justice’ every time.
One has to wonder what ‘gifts’ could be coming the Magistrate’s way at Christmas….
In the mid 70’s I worked on the Huntly power station build. Joe Paki (the maori kings old man) was the union delegate. Never met such a useless fat bastard in all my life. He would swan around and do fuck all all day. I guess like father, like son, like grand son.
An “off topic” subject, but I suspect of interest to many.
Ever thought about, or been ambushed, by the cost of motor vehicle repairs?
A Wellington friend suffered a modern car gear box problem – keeps dropping out of drive after 10-20 mins running. The 3L Honda Accord is just out of warranty. He took it back to the Wellington Honda dealer. Answer: “We will need to remove, check and repair/replace the automatic gearbox”.
Cost Estimate of 2-0 hours labour at $118 per hr plus GST = $135.70 = Labour Est of $2714. That will be in addition to the cost of new parts/repairs/oil etc.
flipper, according to a car dealer I spoke to when considering an option on a Honda Jazz for my wife he advised strongly against. Honda’s he told me can be hugely expensive to repair if the auto l transmission fails. There not known for their reliability. Of course there are many Hondas that don’t give problems but beware.!
If an AA member should ring their advisory otherwise consider a claim under the Consumer’s Guarantees Act .
BTW I opted for a Toyota Yaris. Excellant peace of mind choice.
Canadian Diattima (Dita) di Boni, wife of TV reporter Ali Ikram, continues the Hooerald’s multilculturalism campaign today with a column in which she laments: New Zealand’s friendship with America, NZ’s not having open doors for the world’s refugees, and NZ’s policy on and attitudes to Israel.
Interestingly, her column is in the business section of the Hooerald web site.
Di Boni has surprisingly Leftist views for a person who works as a business reporter.
She seems to have have open doors in NZ’s MSM for her views, often popping up on Radio NZ.
We use 3 years of Cryosat-2 radar altimeter data to develop the first comprehensive assessment of Antarctic ice sheet elevation change. This new data set provides near-continuous (96%) coverage of the entire continent, extending to within 215 km of the South Pole and leading to a fivefold increase in the sampling of coastal regions where the vast majority of all ice losses occur. Between 2010 and 2013, West Antarctica, East Antarctica, and the Antarctic Peninsula changed in mass by −134 ± 27, −3 ± 36, and −23 ± 18 Gt yr−1, respectively. In West Antarctica, signals of imbalance are present in areas that were poorly surveyed by past missions, contributing additional losses that bring altimeter observations closer to estimates based on other geodetic techniques. However, the average rate of ice thinning in West Antarctica has also continued to rise, and mass losses from this sector are now 31% greater than over the period 2005–2010.
This decision is the correct one,the Maori kings son has a right to do this.
Where are all those people who said LORD LUCAN could disregard the rules and express his Human Rights and do as he pleases when HE decided not to get a haircut.
The king’s son had a RIGHT to disregard the rules.
It was his RIGHT to B/Enter that residence.
It was his RIGHT to drive drunk.
It wasnt his fault,he was expressing himself because you don’t really need to follow the rules.
Plus it would have been a racist decision if he was held accountable and Lucan wasnt.
It’s the offending while on bail that tips it over from a legitimate discharge without conviction to a case where a conviction should have been entered, and which differentiates it from his mates. I seem to recall the Judge who dealt with the co-offenders saying they didn’t qualify for a s104 Sentencing Act discharge, and so discharged them in some other manner I still don’t understand. So if they didn’t qualify, then the only reason this kid did was because he is the second son of the Maori King, a largely ceremonial position amongst a limited number of Maori, and one which isn’t handed down from father to son anyway. Do the Police have the nads to appeal, or would that be seen as racist and politically divisive?
Interesting about the Honda
We had a rust point come through under the car just outside warrantee. The dealer agreed it was a manufacturing fault and the entire section effected was replaced free of charge.
If you cast your mind back a few years to the Dunedin Student riots (well mini riots in fairness), very few if any of the students arrested were convicted of anything lest it damage their future career prospects.
Now, before you launch into one of your tiresome and repetitive “prog scum rants” let me state for the record that I do not agree with the Maori Kings son being discharged without conviction, nor as it happens do I agree with the student rioters being discharged without conviction. What I do agree with is one rule for all, the case of the Maori Kings son is a perfect example of the discretion of the courts being applied equally. While you may not like the ruling for purely racist reasons it is at least consistent, it is as I have already said an example of one law for all.
Yep. Has no respect for the law – committed crimes of dishonesty while on bail.
Dishonesty is taken seriously buy the police as it shows a deviant and narssisitic mindset. Victims don’t matter to much to these people.
Yet the judge runs with the ‘alcohol is the major contributing factor’….wtf?………youthful exerberance and drinking is no excuse for stealing private property, or for breaking the trust of the court and society by breaking bail conditions.
More so for a future King!
The Judge should have given him a verbal stripdown. Instead, every maori will now expect their legal aid lawyer to get the same for them.
And they will – ‘future entitlements’ is now a sentancing precedent. Previously it was only future ‘ambitions’ – as in the case of law students coming before the courts.
Link 1 – “A young foreign student has joined an exclusive club of drink-drivers who have left court without a conviction.” so no burglary and theft to go with it? 1 charge not 3?
Link 2 – “A trainee pilot was yesterday discharged without a conviction for drink-driving in Gore after a judge said the consequences of a conviction would have been dire.” so no burglary and theft to go with it? 1 charge not 3?
Link 3 – “A man who stole a cellphone accidentally left behind in a Victoria University toilet by a doctoral student has been discharged without conviction.” so no burglary and drink driving to go with it?
Link 4 – The comedian ended up being convicted
Link 5 – the dude imported cartoon porn??? not really the same as burglary, theft and drink driving.
“I’m sure some time with Google would bring up many more cases.”
Not one of your examples in in any way comparable with a young man being excused conviction for burglary and theft and drink driving on race based reasons or more importantly, because of the claimed status of his father.
Trouble is , in Nil Ziland we have got to the stage ( actually a long time ago ) where there is no accountability for ones actions.
No self responsibility. If it feels good , do it. If its wrong , don’t worry..there is no right or wrong.
Ive said it once and I’ll say it again..reap what you sow and the coming harvest is going to be bumper.
I scoured The Press this morning for a report of the Maori King’s son and his court case. Not mentioned as far as I can see. Is The Press deliberately ignoring this matter for pc reasons, I wonder. Were it John Key’s son, wow it would be headline news on the front page.
Abrupt mid-twentieth-centurydecline in Antarctic sea-iceextent from whaling recordsWilliam K. de la MareAustralian Antarctic Division, Department of the Environment,Sport and Territories, Channel Highway, Kingston, Tasmania 7050, Australia
A decline in Antarctic sea-ice extent is a commonly predicted
effect of a warming climate. Direct global estimates of the
Antarctic sea-ice cover from satellite observations, only possible
since the 1970s1–4
, have shown no clear trends. Comparisons1
between satellite observations and ice-edge charts obtainedfrom early ship records5
suggest that sea-ice extent in the 1970swas less than during the 1930s, an indication supported by limited
regional observations6. But these observations have been regardedas inconclusive, owing to the limited spatial and temporal scope ofthe early records2. A significant data source has, however, been overlooked. The southern limit of whaling was constrained by seaice, and since 1931 whaling records have been collected for everywhale caught7, giving a circumpolar coverage from spring toautumn until 1987. Here, an analysis of these catch recordsindicates that, averaged over October to April, the Antarctic summer sea-ice edge has moved southwards by 2.8of latitude between the mid 1950s and early 1970s. This suggests a decline inthe area covered by sea ice of some 25%
It is no surprise to me that a man of your advanced years and diminishing mental capacity cannot remember the Dunedin Student riots of a few years back.
That is but one example, if you cared to look (and we all know you don’t just in case your fucked up view of the world is proven wrong) you will find plenty of other examples.
Or, we could both save ourselves a lot of time if you just admitted that you are a racist prick who does not think that the law should apply equally between Maori and non Maori.
This thread has proven to be more informative than one could every have hoped for. While the hot topic seems to be that the Moari Kings son (who is on the face of it, a thug and low life) has escaped conviction it has also had the effect of showing that some of the so called “balanced” or “fair and reasonable” contributors to this site are in fact naked racists.
Dime was curious as to why the Prince didnt get diversion.. turns out what he did was too serious to be considered.
“Other categories of offences are serious enough in nature to be automatically considered not appropriate, including:
burglary or dishonesty offences
violent offences including family violence offences
sexual offences or offences with sexual overtones
serious drug offences
traffic offences which carry a mandatory minimum disqualification
offences for breaching a court order.”
Well said, bruv. And more particularly a couple of glaring examples like kowtow and igm who apparently are so comfortable in that racism that they use this place like their living rooms and call people ‘murri’s’. Perhaps they should consider that maori people may use this blogsite as well as themselves and not be so disgustingly unconscious in how they conduct affairs.
Everything was going swimmingly, and then this. I’m sorry, Muzz, but aren’t you meant to be the micro-managing maniac who insisted on choosing the colour of the uniforms for Rugby World Cup volunteers? With all due respect, the only reasonable conclusion is you’ve been overwhelmed by your constituency workload. We might just have a solution there. A spot of democratic immunity in East Coast Bays, if you take my meaning.
FW: RE: FW: RE: RE: RE: RE: But that’s not our position, is it?
Still on the lookout for a tweetbook hashtag, team. The frontrunner at the moment is #tehapuocunliffehopechangeforabetteraotearoanewzealand. Or #TameKey. #TeamMoa is not going to fly, #TeamTrev. Do you see how I just turned that into a joke. It’s such a joke, this revive the extinct bird thing, ha! Ha ha ha! Ha, you see, here we are laughing, not bothered at all, not distracted, good old Trevor, what a dag, and here we are grinning like we just stood on a nail, laughing, smiling, losing blood, can’t breathe, nurse.
RE: constructive politics
It’s, like, totally getting us down, all the vitriol in contemporary New Zealand politics. So unawesome. Why can’t we all get along, be constructive, work together, focus on what really matters, save the dolphins, hug and stop being so mean? There’s far too much mud-slinging and name-calling, especially from the loathsome, amoral, cabinet-clubbing crony Muldoonist cretins from Planet Key.
yeah, you’re good at being a racist in here, kowtow. I know exactly what you are. You’re too gutless to express your racism in a real public forum like a pub so you do it in here, you coward. You’re nothing but a rotten piece of cum shot up against a wall and hatched, petal.
Pathetic. Question a piss poor call by a completely out of touch judge, and out come the calls of racist because the offender is a maori. Its not our fuckin fault 9 out of 10 offenders are brown. A facts a fact. In cant be washed over. If they don’t want the spotlight continually shone on them..STAY OUT OF TROUBLE , stop nicking shit , stop killing your offspring, stop offending !
It didn’t take long after the death of Dame te Atairangikaahu for the role that she had conducted with dignity to descend into complete farce, complete with former deputy TV fire reporter Morgan lining up at the Tainui trough as some low rent puppetmeister. Bad luck for the present and prospective incumbents to inherit the wrong side of the family gene pool.
Until her death, 6 or 7 years ago from memory, that role was generally tolerated at worst with benign indifference by non Maori due, no doubt, to the way in which conducted herself. From day one following her death, this “King” has set about turning himself and the role into an irretrievable laughing stock. Starting with his remarkable pretentions regarding his status, and continuing on through the internal politics, the public buffoonery by his court jester Morgan, and most recently that ridiculous business regarding Prince William’s visit. Tainui should wise up and stop embarrassing themselves by giving this clown the arse.
Apart from that it’s good to see Labour taking the issue of violence seriously. This is their media release:
Labour will take decisive action on family violence
DAVID CUNLIFFE | 3 JUL 2014
Labour will take decisive and far-reaching action to address violence against women and children, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.
“On average 35 New Zealanders are killed by a member of their family every year, and one in three women experience intimate partner violence. Last year 20,000 women and children sought the help of Women’s Refuge.
“This is totally unacceptable. It has a devastating physical and emotional impact on the lives of a great many of our women and children.
“Labour will work towards its elimination. Today we are announcing a package of measures for immediate action, as well as other longer term solutions.
“We will adopt an Action Plan to Eliminate Violence Against Women and Children.
“We will provide $60 million over four years for family and sexual violence to support front-line services, primary prevention and education.
“We will reform the justice system to provide real justice to survivors while upholding the right to be presumed innocent.
“We will review prosecution guidelines and the operation of protection orders.
“As Labour Party Leader, I am determined that we address the causes and consequences of family violence.
“But this cannot be achieved in a piecemeal manner or without a unified effort across government agencies and NGOs.
“That is why our action plan will be led from within the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet,’’ David Cunliffe said.
A young Maori man, an expectant father, could as well kill his yet unborn child in a drink driving incident, having just received no penalty for such behaviour, for driving under a little less than twice the legal limit,
as well as committing theft and burglary.
“I think that is a recognition of the uniqueness of this country. Maori tikanga, Maori culture has been recognised today by a very senior court” – Tuku Morgan, a former MP and the Maori King’s representative.
Big Bruv said at 10.57 of the Maori King’s son’s discharge without conviction:
…it is as I have already said an example of one law for all.
I don’t agree. If he hadn’t been the Maori King’s son, the lad would have been convicted. Similarly with the students in the “mini-riot” in Dunedin that Big Bruv quotes. In that case, it’s unlikely there would have been discharges if those charged were apprentice tradies. In fact, would convictions have hindered any careers but for those in the law? If not, that might mean the law was looking after its own future brethren and brethrenesses.
Big Bruv seems to imply the Dunedin students were non-Maori. How does he know that? There are heaps of part-Maori and Maori students. You’re not making a racist assumption, are you Big Bruv?
On the Maori King’s son discharge, there have been interesting comments today by the Maori former MP Dover Samuels and by an Auckland academic who specialises in the interaction between NZ criminal law and Maori customs and traditions.
Our Credit System a Form of Counterfeiting-Gordon Long
Will the crisis in Iraq get out of control? Macroeconomist Gordon Long says, “I happen to think that it probably will because we are not resolving the basic problems. But the big core issue here is the petrodollar. It’s not about oil and it’s not about gas. It’s about what it is bought and paid for in, and that is U.S. dollars. There is no one that trades any one of those products in anything other than U.S. dollars . . . right now, as of today. . . . As long as the trading continues in U.S. dollars, all those dollars will stay out there and not come back to the United States. When it comes back to the United States, you will have hyperinflation. These conflicts need to be seen in the context of they are really going to force groups to trade in other than the U.S dollar. That’s the problem because they are going to come back. They are going to say I have a U.S. dollar, and I am going to make a claim on it. That’s what is going to drive the hyperinflation. That’s what is going to drive the currency crisis. This is about trading in the U.S. dollar. . . . We are looking at spring 2015 to Q3. There is trouble there.”
Gordon Long says, “We’re not really running a capitalist system. We are running a credit system. Instead of using savings, we are using credit. Credit, the way we are doing it now, is really a form of counterfeiting. If you look at the $72 trillion shadow banking system that we have operating right now, that is generating this credit.
“Question a piss poor call by a completely out of touch judge, and out come the calls of racist because the offender is a maori. Its not our fuckin fault 9 out of 10 offenders are brown”
I fear you have missed my point entirely Dime. I happen to agree with you when it comes to Maori crime stats, it is an indictment on Moaridom (what a stupid word) that their people are committing 9 out of ten crimes. I detest being told by Maori apologists that it is a community problem, it has nothing to do with the community it is a Maori problem and so far their “leaders” see fit to do nothing about it.
My point here Dime is that when these brown kids are standing in the dock they deserve to be treated the same way as white kids. If that means a conviction then great, if they means prison then fantastic. What must happen is that they are treated the same as every other kid irrespective of their colour.
If we did really have a justice system that was colour blind them a shit load more Tristan’s, Benjamin’s and Jonathans would be banged up with the Rangi’s and Whetu’s of this world.
I guess the moral of this story is to be careful of what you wish for, I suspect in many cases (Kowtow being one example) that the “One rule for all chant” is really code for “Lock up Maoris”
Have I touched a racist nerve with you?, is your conscience struggling with the cold realisation that your racism has been exposed?
“. Similarly with the students in the “mini-riot” in Dunedin that Big Bruv quotes. In that case, it’s unlikely there would have been discharges if those charged were apprentice tradies”
What you are suggesting is even worse, so if you are a young person attending OU and doing a law degree you will escape conviction because of your intended career, however if you are builder, butcher or plumber you will not.
And please, you are really getting desperate if you think that rioting OU students were anything other than predominantly white.
On family violence, at whose core likes the imbalance in physique between males and females.
Rather than millions more of disguised subsidy to the TV channels and other media through propaganda campaigns, why not look at something different.
A modest approach – teach all young women a martial art, boxing, or a specially designed self defence course, with some all-in defence tactics, including use of household items as defence aids.
A truly radical approach – facilitate people owning and carrying pistols, and through clubs and courses, train young women in their use and encourage their ownership. Just as the famous 1873 Army Colt .45 was known as “the equaliser”, pistols today would balance the physique disproportion between most husbands and wives or unmarried equivalents, and greatly discourage male-on-female violence. It would also give women a fighting chance in such murder-suicide attacks as the recent one in Dunedin which saw a woman lose her children.
It would be interesting to know whether in apartheid South Africa, where women had ready access to pistols, there was less abuse from male husbands and partners.
Of women shooters I have been acquainted with over the years, I don’t know of any who have been assaulted by male partners.
I am aware there is almost zero chance of NZ taking this ultimate self-defence road, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be effective.
On the question of physique imbalance, it would be interesting to know whether, in homosexual couples, which should on average have less physique imbalance, whether there is less violence, or if the level is similar to that for heterosexuals, whether injuries are lesser.
Breadking news chaps: David Cunliffe has just apologized for being a man at a symposium for Womens’ Refuges…FFS, I thought the cringing white liberals “apologising” for what their distant relatives might or might not have done to the Special People 150 years ago were bad enough..
But apologizing for being a man because – so he said – “most” family violence is committed by men? The man is a total idiot…
“big bruv (12,904 comments) says:
July 4th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
Did you see that another priest has been arrested for child sexual abuse?”
Yes, its great to see that this pervert has been caught. For too long a very few homosexual priests hid their crimes and caused the hundreds of thousandes of good faithful priests to be tarred with the “pervert” brush – as big bigot gleefully points out.
So thank you for your diligent attention and obsessive passtime bruv. We’ll keep you on as the poofter priest purveyor, because there are so few of them – you’d have no trouble finding the pervert schoolteachers, or pervert police because there’s so many of them.
” We’ll keep you on as the heterosexual paedophile priest purveyor, because there are so few of them ”
Clearly somebody has to do it, the catholic church and its many apologists prefer to deny they exist . I also have to challenge you on your assertion that there are “so few of them”. The number of arrests and the even larger number of cover ups (many at the hands of the Vatican) prove your comment to be, at the least incorrect and at the worst a blatant lie.
Big Bruv (1.53) continues to shout racist or racism at any who question the non-conviction of the Maori King’s son.
Do you accuse Dover Samuels and Khylee Quince of being racist (see link in my 1.38 post)?
I note in your 1.53 post you have retreated to the position of claiming “rioting” students in Dunedin were “predominantly white”. So you are a racist, Big Bruv. You judge those before the courts by their race.
Don – I keep coming back to the Audi A5. The 32. Quattro. I have a feeling its not the best “drivers car” out there but goddam it looks good!
I’ll also drive a bmw 335i coupe just in case. 3 ltr twin turbo. Sounds fun.
Flirted with a 370Z but havent had a chance to sit in one. Im about 4 foot wide in the shoulders.. i think the car will be too small. friends have also uttered the words “youll look like a homosexual” which doesnt help!
I accuse Dover Samuels of being stupid. Luckily for me there is a mountain of evidence in support.
“I note in your 1.53 post you have retreated to the position of claiming “rioting” students in Dunedin were “predominantly white”. ”
It seems I must also include you in the same class as Dover. I have never claimed the rioters to be exclusively white. Mind you, the very fact that you went searching for this only proves my point in that you are not dealing well with having your naked racism pointed out.
The point has been made time and time over by other posters .It exists ,but is not exclusive to Catholic priests.
It is only the bigots (bigot bruv et al) who seem to want to point the finger ,exclusively at the RC church. “balanced, fair and reasonable” indeed.
Perhaps that’s the point of the other post today.Entertainers, police officers,doctors, politicians,teachers,even parents and other family members have all been cited.But to bigot bruv it seems nothing to see here ,let’s obsess about those filthy left footers and their “sick religious beliefs”.
You really are an apologist for the filthy Catholic church. Nobody denies that paedophiles exist in other organisations. The issue is kowtow that no other organisation has gone to the lengths to deny their crimes or to hide the perpetrators of those crimes.
The Catholic church was well aware of what was going on, Joseph Ratzinger himself was fully briefed yet even he decided that a cover up was better than a full investigation.
I am not sure how you will cope kowtow when the full extent of this child abuse does come to light, perhaps then you might start to doubt the validity of your church and the very existence of your god.
Cunliffe apologises for being a man. Why? He can’t help it. If he was a violent wife-beater I could understand an apology, but do I take this to mean that he thinks all men should be sorry for being men? Is the Labour party perhaps going to announce a policy to prevent men, perhaps with posters and TV ads? I was a man but I personned up and got help? The only advantage in Cunliffe ceasing to be a man is that he couldn’t continue to be such a complete rod walloper.
“I am not sure how you will cope kowtow when the full extent of this child abuse does come to light, perhaps then you might start to doubt the validity of your church and the very existence of your god.”
Take a grip big bigot.
Our Faith does not depend on the crimes – sins – of the very few that break their vows and live totally contrary to the way they are supposed to – they make their choice, and they will be dealt with accordingly – even if not in this life.
Shocking that case might be one it demonstrates my point perfectly. Now that it is out in the open it will be fully investigated. Had it been the Catholic church all sorts of political levers would be pulled to keep is as quiet as possible.
However, seeing as I have awoken in you a new sense of outrage at the sexual abuse of the Catholic church then have a look at this and be totally outraged.
Cunliffe’s intent was fine but his lack of experience on the issue of violence shows, he made a major mistake expressing himself like that. As soon as I saw it I knew it would demolish what was a very important policy announcement.
I’m grateful and not sorry for being a man – but I’ll do whatever I can to reduce violence in our society.
Do you really think that the Church has been honest with us over this?, given the church’s history of bare faced lies then only the most sycophantic of its slavish followers would believe that there are not hundreds more paedophilic priests out there.
But he is ignorant here, as usual. The SS was anti-Christian. The authority on this dastardly organisation, Heinz Hohne, says it deliberately invoked neo-paganism, and for example, and banned church marriages. Despite this many members remained church members. Hohne cites figures saying that in one division two-thirds of members remained church members, but of these only 23.7 per cent were Catholics.
If there’s one thing worse than a troll, it’s an ignorant troll.
Ok I will tell you. The only member of the Waffen-SS who was excommunicated from the Catholic Church was Dr Joseph Goebbels.
Now, you might well think that was a good thing, obviously he was excommunicated for his crimes against his fellow man, or the number of atrocities committed by him or on his direct orders, that alone must be worthy of excommunication.
But no, Goebbels was not excommunicated for his war crimes, Goebbels was excommunicated for the unpardonable sin of marrying a Protestant.
Only the most fervent apologist for the Catholic church could even consider defending an organisation like that.
Yeah, the A5 coupe – looks grunty, but refined and classy.
Poor old bruv.
So bitter and enraged that, when talking about the Catholic Church and anything remotely religious, he can’t even quote something without totally distorting the facts, and so rendering whatever he says as irrelevant and pointless.
He gets himself so wound up, that he is like the Woozle Bird – who flies around in ever diminishing circles – till he disappears up his own fundamental orifice; Head-up Bruv.
As the afternoon wears on, and the time comes for you to take your pills and return into the secure ward, I would like to thank you for your demonstration into a disturbed mind. You have been most uninhibited.
Some other posters may support me in hoping that medical science soon makes a breakthrough that will return you to rationality, and I genuinely wish that you get into the early trial of such a remedy.
Do you really expect anybody to believe that website?
The Vatican ordered that Hitler’s birthday was to be celebrated right up until the end of the war. Even after the conclusion of the way the same Vatican colluded with the Nazi’s and enabled them to escape via the “rat lines”.
I know that you Catholics are keen to reinvent history but thankfully there are enough people out here who will never allow them to get away with it.
‘I know that you Catholics are keen to reinvent history but thankfully there are enough people out here who will never allow them to get away with it.’
Go take your meds bruv, and we’ll see you much happier.
As a word of advice, keep off religious topics – you’re so bigotted that it makes you Big Dick – even if you are a bruv.
Stick to the other mundane things – like politics and so on – you actually make some sense there, and I even sometimes agree with you. (Oops – shouldn’t have said that – it may drive bruv away from Kiwiblog completely, having me agree with him)
I’ve just read a review of the new book about Hillary Clinton.
It says “she has the heart of road kill on hot sunny day; warm, soft and overpowering.
The book is difficult to pick up and easy to put down.”
Gulag1917 (566 comments) says:
Don’t project your stupid delusions on the faithless.
Many of us are atheists who consider your collective god delusions an artifact of a superstitious ignorant stone age past.
Gulag1917 (567 comments) says:
July 4th, 2014 at 4:00 pm
World War 4
Atheists [most are really agnostics] v Christianity
Post tripe like this and wonder why atheists are insulted ?
idiot with a metal problem
There is hope for a pharmaceutical cure for the god delusion some time in the future meantime education is the the most effective method of riding your mental sickness from society.
All_on_Red (1,269 comments) says:
July 4th, 2014 at 4:16 pm
Still making up straw men I see all in red.
Where did you get 6 c warming from….. your arse ?
Wingnuts are good at that seeing as they spend most of their time with their heads up there.
My problem is a faith in science yours is a faith in oil industry shrills and wing nut blogs .
Indeed your problem is that you do have a “faith” in science . That’s why it’s your religion. Science is not faith based. It’s based on fact.
” idiot with a metal problem”.And you call Gulag an idiot and needing education. Lol.
As already pointed out to another idiot wingnut repeating the latest from some denial blog today the sea ice extent is nowhere near historic levels.Sea ice around Antarctica declined by 25% between 1930 and the seventies. As this fact was published in the nineties one wonders where you get your nonsense from?
By the way there is absolutely no sea ice on Antarctica, its a continent which is losing land ice ( the stuff that causes sea levels to rise) at a rapidly increasing rate.
Doh, the sea ice is around Antarctica. No one said it’s ON Antarctica. Sheesh what a moron. Cryosphere reports 2,112 million km2 more sea ice around Antarctica than normal.Thats an area bigger than Greenland. This is measured from 1979.
Since we are warming from the Little Ice Age your historic levels comment is pretty stupid.
Good night Griff- keep the faith.
The Jimmy Saville abuse case much worse than police supposed. Now they have uncovered a secret wall in a room above a record shop with lists of conquests. Includes names of other BBC personnel and celebrities. Looks like they were trying to one-up one another.
Stunned officers chipped away plaster at a record shop wall and unveiled a hidden list of names thought to belong to young victims of Jimmy Savile.
The vile register, which contained the names, ages and a disgusting ratings system seemingly used to mark their sexual performance, was scrawled on a secret wall buried behind layers of wallpaper and plaster.
A source revealed: “The wall looked like something straight out of a horror movie. There were lists and lists of names of the victims – it’s a shocking discovery.”
The list of girls and young women is thought to identify hundreds of potential new victims abused at the hands of the BBC DJ and it raised fears Savile was at the centre of a celebrity paedophile ring.
Police believe the major breakthrough could lead to further arrests – including other well-known celebrities.
The wall also appeared to contain the names of girls the sick group hoped to target in the future.
Officers who raided the shop in Greater Manchester after a tip-off will now try to trace the alleged victims.
A source said the raid had provided the clearest evidence yet to show Savile was part of a larger group of monsters.
The source said: “Savile appeared to be using the room above the record store as some kind of secret HQ to plan his vile acts.
“There appears to be some suggestion that he was not acting alone either.
“There were others who appear to be involved, several others, some of whom are household names.”
As the specialist officers ripped away the layers from the wall, the names of up to 200 new people they believe he and accomplices attacked or planned to
attack during the 1980s and 1990s were gradually revealed.
At least one other well-known BBC figure and several celebrities are now being linked to the probe. Suspects face being quizzed in the coming weeks.
The source added: “Police think there might be hundreds of new female victims that needed to be spoken to as a result of the record shop raid.
Earlier this year it was suggested there were around 450 victims of Savile’s depraved actions.
“This looks like an under-estimation. If the evidence on the wall is anything to go by, we could be talking in the region of 650 victims in all. It’s shocking.”
Criminologist Professor David Wilson from Birmingham City University said the register was a way for the predators to boast about their conquests.
He said: “In the age before the internet made it possible for paedophiles to communicate with each other and write about who they could abuse and the form that abuse may take, they found other methods.
Paedophiles are constantly evolving ways of communicating.
“By putting it on a wall they are making it public, but by hiding it, it is private. The public nature is because they are proud of it. It is a boasting system.
It is a form of saying ‘this is what I’ve done. I’ve done more than you.’
It’s about them displaying their own sexual success in being able to abuse these children.
“They also recognise this could lead to arrest, so they had to be careful about their sexual preferences.
“At the time this was said to have taken place paedophiles used contact magazines and groups of associates to get in touch with each other.
Bit late in the day to be posting this but surely NZ’s most beloved grandmother Maggie Barry must realise that by not reporting Rolf Harris to the police for assault when he laid his hand on her thigh during an interview back in the 80s she may inadvertently have enabled him to continue the sexual offending that has resulted in his criminal convictions. Such an incident was either assault or not- and there is little value in her now coming out and making this complaint 30 years after it occurred when she was not prepared to do anything about it at the time.
I love you Maggie and wish you well in your political career but I think you were and are a bloody fool when it comes to this issue. You were part of the problem and not the solution.