Kiwis most satisfied with freedoms

July 11th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

Gallup reports:

 Fewer Americans are satisfied with the to choose what they do with their lives compared with seven years ago — dropping 12 percentage points from 91% in 2006 to 79% in 2013. In that same period, the percentage of Americans dissatisfied with the to choose what they do with their lives more than doubled, from 9% to 21%.

The rise of big Government.

And how about other countries:

Gallup asks people in more than 120 countries each year whether they are satisfied or dissatisfied with the freedom to choose what they do with their lives. In 2006, the U.S. ranked among the highest in the world for people reporting satisfaction with their level of freedom. After seven years and a 12-point decline, the U.S. no longer makes the top quartile worldwide.

So who is top:

gallup

That’s a good table to top.

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41 Responses to “Kiwis most satisfied with freedoms”

  1. ashishnaicker (21 comments) says:

    Don’t think NZ will be at the top once Labour comes into power.

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  2. queenstfarmer (782 comments) says:

    Perhaps Labour declared a “satisfaction with freedom” crisis :-)

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  3. JMS (330 comments) says:

    UAE and Uzbekistan in 5th place?

    These surveys aren’t worth the paper they are written on, they’re not even worth the storage space they take up on flash drives.

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  4. wikiriwhis business (4,016 comments) says:

    Govt’s should look after people and regulate corporations

    not regulate people and look after corporations

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  5. Mighty_Kites (84 comments) says:

    On the one hand you blame “big government” for the US being ranked 36th but on the other you celebrate NZ’s placing when we clearly are more “big government” than the US with our socialised healthcare, healthy regulation and gun control. You contradict yourself so much in this post, it’s funny to see

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  6. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    Mighty_Kites

    You seem to imply that gun control is a bad thing. I am sure you don’t mean that.

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  7. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    JMS ,exactly.

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  8. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    I was going to post this in http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/07/seen_in_tawa.html but…

    “FREEDOM FOR TOOTING!!!”

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  9. OTGO (551 comments) says:

    With a tax cut I reckon we could do 95%. Add no references to the Treaty and we’re nearly at the maximum.

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  10. kiwigunner (230 comments) says:

    USA the home of charter schools and educational choice less free than NZ!

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  11. stephieboy (3,094 comments) says:

    Cambodia as third looks a bit suspect but them they’re maybe looking back to the days of the mad Pol Pot.
    What they have now may seem like paradise.

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  12. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Dime started watching Lilyhammer yesterday. The dude out of the sopranos (springsteens guitar player) play a mob guy who goes into witness protection, moves to Norway.

    Holy hell, its a good example of what life would be like under PM Jacinda & co. everything requires a licence. any who works for the govt is seen as powerful etc scary.

    It will be interesting to see where our freedom rates in 20 years. These leftist fucks just keep chipping away.

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  13. mister nui (1,028 comments) says:

    That’s because kiwi’s don’t understand liberty and freedom.

    Jesus christ, if we’re more happy than the US, it shows how true the adage of the slowly boiled frog is.

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  14. marcw (249 comments) says:

    Obviously only men were permitted to respond in UAE – I agree with JMS at 2:07.

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  15. stephieboy (3,094 comments) says:

    dime, as Conservative Party supporters here are anything to go by NZ will become, once again ,a joyless well lit cemetery.

    Your not one of them by chance.?

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  16. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    Nice that we’re on top, but some of the others who share the top 20 would lead me to question the methodology. I suspect it’s a self reported “how free do you feel” type survey. So people in Cambodia feel really free because it’s so much better than it used to be. In that case, the reason for USA being poorly ranked may be that their citizens expect more than they get, whereas perhaps NZers just have low expectations.

    I wouldn’t agree that USA is necessarily more free than NZ – visit Eric Crampton some time and look at his occasional rants about how unfree North America is. Try this one on for size: http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com.au/search/label/libertarianism

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  17. ShawnLH (5,125 comments) says:

    “Fewer Americans are satisfied with the freedom to choose what they do with their lives compared with seven years ago — dropping 12 percentage points from 91% in 2006 to 79% in 2013. In that same period, the percentage of Americans dissatisfied with the freedom to choose what they do with their lives more than doubled, from 9% to 21%.”

    Another great achievement by Obama.

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  18. ShawnLH (5,125 comments) says:

    “USA the home of charter schools and educational choice less free than NZ!”

    The US education system is dominated by a Federal/state monopoly just like NZ. Charter schools and choice are not the norm, and some of the more Liberal states like California have even criminalize home schooling, supposedly because they are scared that some children will not receive the mandated, compulsory indoctrination on gay issues.

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  19. ShawnLH (5,125 comments) says:

    “dime, as Conservative Party supporters here are anything to go by NZ will become, once again ,a joyless well lit cemetery.”

    Or not. It might become a more genuinely just, decent society after decades of joyless, soulless liberalism.

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  20. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “dime, as Conservative Party supporters here are anything to go by NZ will become, once again ,a joyless well lit cemetery.

    Your not one of them by chance.?”

    Ive told you before i lean towards libertarianism. def not socially conservative.

    Id like to see craig get in – just to piss people like you off though

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  21. Tarquin North (298 comments) says:

    Don’t tell the B grade Green supporting theatrical types, they think they’re saving us because we can’t think for ourselves.

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  22. stephieboy (3,094 comments) says:

    dim,. outline to me the actual distinctions between you a liber and Shawn L H the Con Party guy.?

    Shawn L H, a decent just society in a well lit cemetery.??

    Tell us more about your vision of this society ” ??

    Lets see. ? Gays go to prison , Strict fault divorce laws, total abortion ban , Sunday closed down, Picture theaters banned , Hanging ,censorship…etc

    What else.?

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  23. Rightandleft (663 comments) says:

    I’m not very impressed with this list given the other nations ranked highly. It does seem to simply rank people’s perceptions, which are very often wrong. I think the decline in US numbers is likely due to some Americans believing Obama is eroding their rights with Obamacare and gun control attempts. But I often find when you talk to these people that if you ask them to name a single right they personally have lost they can’t name anything of course.

    Now on the question of whether the US is freer than NZ, it is true that the US has more freedom of speech than pretty much any other country. But in other ways they have much less freedom. Some of this is red tape and govt related but not all. The US may be home to charter schools but they only serve a very small minority of students while most states restrict the vast majority of children to attending only their closest state school, which will be strictly regulated by a state bureaucracy. In NZ our schools are self governing and competitive, with zoning only used in about 1/3 of state schools where they are oversubscribed. Parents here have the choice of sending their kids to single sex or religious schools for free while in the US all state schools must be secular and co-ed. So parents here have more freedom.

    Some of the restrictions on freedom in the US are imposed not by govt but culture. The fear of lawsuits has led to all types of silly rules and restrictions for example. And the out of control 24 hour news cycle has scared people into wrapping their kids in cotton wool and never letting them out of their sight. And then there are the petty little restrictions. If NZ stores started putting up signs saying no shoes, no service they’d lose a lot of customers. Kiwis wouldn’t take too kindly to shops dictating dress codes to their customers. But in the US that’s considered normal.

    So it’s a mixed bag but in general I would say we are freer in NZ.

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  24. Redbaiter (8,923 comments) says:

    The longer govt controls education in NZ, the more stupefied little communist twits will lose all concept of liberty.

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  25. stephieboy (3,094 comments) says:

    Redbaiter, tell us how your education disadvantaged you in NZ and how your liberties like free speech have been taken away from you.?

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  26. wikiriwhis business (4,016 comments) says:

    “Gays go to prison , Strict fault divorce laws, total abortion ban , Sunday closed down, Picture theaters banned , Hanging ,censorship”

    Most of these changes in our soiety are purely cosmetic to cover real agenda’s and keep the plebs happy.

    That’s why this country continues to have so many plebs lounging in ignorance.

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  27. wikiriwhis business (4,016 comments) says:

    Redbaiter was bought up in a real society where socialism had not flourished from a marxist parliament foisted from both sides of the house fyi

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  28. stephieboy (3,094 comments) says:

    wiki, and you the patrician one of the minority of enlightened ones always in the know.
    Typical Conspiracy theory arrogance and condescension that has not even remotely any justification.
    Outline us in specific ways how your freedoms have been trammeled. on.??
    FEMA type camps in NZ,??

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  29. OneTrack (3,107 comments) says:

    Stephieboy – “FEMA type camps in NZ,??”

    National are the government at the moment.

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  30. ldypen (40 comments) says:

    Well if we are no1 then the rest of the world is screwed!

    Can I:

    1. Cut my tree down without some council or Green Taliban telling me I can’t ?
    2. Be a MAN in NZ without some pillock apologising for ME being a Man?
    3. Be wealthy without some one telling me I am a PRICK?
    4. Tell it how it is without being instantly marked as a racist?
    5. Put up with Hone telling me I’m a MOFO and the race relations idiot not doing anything about it?

    I can go on… but if we really are the best that the world can do then maybe its time to get off the ?ucking planet !!!

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  31. ShawnLH (5,125 comments) says:

    “Lets see. ? Gays go to prison , Strict fault divorce laws, total abortion ban , Sunday closed down, Picture theaters banned , Hanging ,censorship…etc

    What else.?”

    Ah Stephie, following Redbaiters lead again? The two of you really should get together for a date.

    Gays going to prison is not a CP policy, nor mine. Picture theaters??? Did you just pull that one out of your ass to fill space? And hanging???

    Actually I’m not opposed to the death penalty….

    Stricter divorce laws, yup. Criminalize abortion, except in cases of rape, incest, and threat to the mothers life, yup.

    Seriously, try, try to make a rational argument. The straw men you and Red rely on are getting really boring.

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  32. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    @RightandLeft: take a squiz at the link to OffsettingBehaviour I posted above. He has a pretty good case that the US is losing some fundamental freedoms – like innocent until proven guilty for example, or the right not to be shot by the police whilst you’re going about your business. I particularly liked this quote:

    While you’re able to live most of the time unimpeded by this stuff in a bubble of like-minded friends, the random-draw risks are a bit worrying. You could kinda model it as living in a nice place, but with a small risk that you and your family will be the ones selected for some horrible annual ritual sacrifice. You never attend the annual sacrificial ritual despite its broad popularity; you instead do what you can to try and stop the ritual. Maybe you have more protection against being selected for the annual sacrifice ritual than do most folks because you’re not really in the typically preyed-upon cohort, but that risk is still there. You pay your taxes, knowing that that money is taken to fund the annual sacrificial ritual.

    I think there’s some truth to it, and I think there is real danger when we as a people (or Americans as a people) agree to curtailment of liberties on the basis that they think it’ll apply to other people and not to us. Because when you think about it, there’s a chance that you may become someone that it applies to. It’s a bit like the veil of ignorance construct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_ignorance

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  33. Griff (7,728 comments) says:

    The yanks are less free than us .
    can you imagine how this would go down in NZ
    http://www.sailfeed.com/2012/10/coast-guard-boardings-and-your-fourth-amendment-rights-part-1/

    The US Coast Guard can board your boat any time they want, and look anywhere they want, without probable cause or a warrant. They can do this on the open sea, or while you’re asleep aboard in your marina at midnight. They can look through your bedsheets, in your lockers, in your bilges, in your jewelry box, or in your pockets. They can do it carrying just their sidearms, or they can do it carrying assault rifles. They can be polite about it or they can be rude, but mostly they’re polite.

    If you’re an avid boater you can expect to be boarded every year or two.
    The U.S. Coast Guard Boarding Policy:

    Title 14 section 89 of the United States Code authorizes the U.S. Coast Guard to board vessels subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, anytime, any place upon the high seas and upon any waterway over which the United States has jurisdiction, to make inquires, examinations, inspections, searches, seizures, and arrests. The U.S. Coast Guard does not require a warrant to conduct search, seizures, arrests over any United States Waterway or high seas. The U.S. Coast Guard also have full legal law enforcement power on any land under the control of the United States, as needed to complete any mission.

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  34. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    We are so free in nz that I had to pay thousands to the council so I could dig a hole in my lawn and fill it with water. I then had to put up a fence that I hate and the council will now come to my house every few years to check it. While they are here they can legally come into my home and check the smoke detectors. Freedom.

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  35. Fentex (978 comments) says:

    In that same period, the percentage of Americans dissatisfied with the freedom to choose what they do with their lives more than doubled, from 9% to 21%.

    The rise of big Government.

    The post immediately succeeding this one is all about how the measure you pick influences the result you get. I’m fairly confident DPF wouldn’t want a measure of poverty to be taken from how impoverished people “feel”.

    Just as how useless such a subjective measure is applies to this question if one wants to treat it as an objective measure of how free people are.

    What this says is basically how in alignment governments and citizens are on the issue. The message I take from it is NZ and it’s government have a similar idea of how much say we grant each other over our lives or to put it another how much we’re willing to cooperate with the status quo.

    The lower value for the U.S suggests to me the government and citizens disagree over how much one wishes to cooperate with the other. Whether that’s because the government wants too much say or citizens feel aggrieved by how much is asked of them it doesn’t say. It’s certainly no measure of whether or not we are objectively more or less free than people in the U.S.

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  36. Fentex (978 comments) says:

    The US Coast Guard can board your boat any time they want, and look anywhere they want, without probable cause or a warrant.

    If I understand recent complaints from the U.S correctly federal authorities can do so to about 80% of their citizens homes as the courts have affirmed anywhere within 100 Miles of the border is subject to border protection authorities ability to search anywhere and anything at whim without warrant or probable cause.

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  37. Colville (2,268 comments) says:

    Fisheries officers can search your boat pretty well any time any where in NZ too. Whats the diff?

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  38. HC (154 comments) says:

    Seeing the UAE and Uzbekistan ranked at number 5 tells me how “reliable” this stupid poll must be. It is all about “perception” in this one, not about reality and facts. People may feel “free”, as they are not informed much about the truth of matters, and so take stuff on face value, and think their poor or misinforming media is actually reporting what is true.

    New Zealanders are actually rather commercially brainwashed, get their heads filled with advertising and low grade messages, all about instant gratification, about me, me, get this, buy this, fix this, and so I must be “free”. Having a bit more of a “free range” country may help, but it deceives.

    People may also be so conditioned into consumerism, individualism, and selfish lifestyles, so they may think, I can choose between a McDonald’s Burger and a Burger King Burger, so I am “free”.

    This is stuff that I do not buy, it requires informed democrats to make a democracy, and it takes informed, educated and enlightened people to actually discover what true freedom is.

    Money also may buy you some “freedom”, but you will never be free in a spiritual sense, when mammon is ruling your life. You cannot take your property with you, when you die, maybe “freedom” has a totally different meaning to people, if they were just a little more “enlightened” and educated and informed. I see little freedom, just a lot of dependency on so many conditions and factors.

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  39. hane (69 comments) says:

    No freedom in NZ to bike down to the local dairy without wearing a polystyrene hat.

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  40. Griff (7,728 comments) says:

    Fishery officers dont jump on board a search your boat often
    I have been stopped and questioned maybe three times by fishery officers and asked to see my catch.
    Once shown they are happy to leave it at that They did not board my vessel.
    I have also been questioned by the nz police, customs .the navy and air force. I have even been questioned by an armed unit in black inflatables with no insignia. At no time did any of these forces board my vessel.
    They only asked for identification and voyage details. This happens only when you have offshore capability and are cruising to identify if you are entering nz illegally. It has never happened to me in smaller vessels or the launch .
    In the usa from the reports I have read the armed coastguard frequently boards and searches for drugs and also to check you have the legal requirements of safety equipment.

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  41. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    Presumably part of it is that statement “offshore capability”. USA is not an island, so “international capability” is not the same as “offshore capability.”

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