The purge of the middle aged men

July 16th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The Guardian reports:

David Cameron has completed his biggest reshuffle in office, demoting the trouble-making Michael Gove to chief whip, installing the Eurosceptic Philip Hammond as foreign secretary and promoting two more women to the cabinet.

The prime minister has cleared out a dozen middle-aged and older men from his ministerial ranks in order to create a more female and less privileged top team. The strategy behind the shake-up is being attributed to Lynton Crosby, Cameron’s election adviser, as the party seeks to make itself look more representative of society before the election.

The size of the reshuffle is huge. Almost every major portfolio affected.

However, there are already signs of a backlash within the party about the scale of the sackings. Among the centrists, there is unhappiness about the departure of Dominic Grieve as attorney general, who has stood up for the European court of human rights

No wonder he went. The ECHR is massively unpopular in the UK.

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34 Responses to “The purge of the middle aged men”

  1. m@tt (631 comments) says:

    “make itself look more representative of society before the election”
    So, to meet a quota then.

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  2. mjw (399 comments) says:

    That’s ok, ACT and National are helping to keep the balance in NZ by choosing middle aged man after middle aged man.

    I wonder whether we will get to the stage they are at in Australia, when Tony Abbot only has one woman in Cabinet, and has awarded himself the title of Minister of Women’s Affairs?

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  3. Liam Hehir (129 comments) says:

    Poor Michael Gove – what a waste of a first-rate politician.

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  4. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    m@tt – “So, to meet a quota then.”

    Exactly – and these plonkers are supposed to be *Conservatives!*
    You wouldn’t know it from their sickening “political correctness” and their open-the-floodgates immigration policy.

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  5. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    Lets see if William Hagues name pops up in relation to the current westminster paedo purge in the next wee while

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  6. JC (967 comments) says:

    As the Times(?) noted.. “Feminine Hygiene.. The Sanitary Napkin Cabinet”.

    JC

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  7. AG (1,830 comments) says:

    The prime minister has cleared out a dozen middle-aged and older men from his ministerial ranks in order to create a more female and less privileged top team.

    It’s a (snuffle, chortle) man ban! They’ve gone beyond fruit loop!!

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  8. BeaB (2,141 comments) says:

    As one guy said, “pale, male and stale”. Good to have a clean out and a shake up. They’re not there for life.

    mjw – wasn’t Bolger Minister for Women’s Affairs?

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  9. dime (10,086 comments) says:

    “I wonder whether we will get to the stage they are at in Australia, when Tony Abbot only has one woman in Cabinet, and has awarded himself the title of Minister of Women’s Affairs?”

    with a bit of luck there will be no minister of womens affairs ffs

    as for whos in cabinet – the best people regardless of what they are thanks

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  10. kowtow (8,712 comments) says:

    Camoron is a complete pillock.

    He’s introduced marriage parody and now this PC nonsense to appeal to “equality”. He’s no conservative.

    Brought in a Eurosceptic Hammond to try to undercut UKIP (good luck with that) as this move is transparent to thinking voters like UKIPers who will see straight through this cynical ploy.

    If the Guardian call Gove a trouble maker ,then surely Gove was doing his job as a Conservative.Why drop him?

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  11. Manolo (14,018 comments) says:

    Only time will tell. On this subject: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2693693/A-shabby-days-work-Cameron-live-regret.html

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  12. safesally (47 comments) says:

    Every day I feel for men in western countries. Do men feel under siege? If this were happening to women we would form a group.

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  13. mjw (399 comments) says:

    I don’t buy the idea that we are selecting the best people. Pretty obviously, we are instead discriminating against women. Just look at the stats:

    86% male – National Govt appointments to ECAN
    81% male – National Govt appointments to Queens Counsel
    80% male – National Party selections to safe seats
    80% male – ACT Party List
    75% male – Current National Party Caucus

    Go figure.

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  14. safesally (47 comments) says:

    mjw

    On the face of it you have an argument but according to your logic men are discriminated against in every school, every university subject except engineering and in almost every custody dispute. Some women want it all but the reasonable of us are happy for balance.
    When we legislate to have 50% of the primary care givers of children to be men, then we can expect women to have 50% representation in parliament for example. There are just too few of us available for it to happen now.
    Also who said men cannot represent women? Maori represent Pakeha, Gay people represent straights and sometimes nincompoops represent us all.

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  15. Bob R (1,386 comments) says:

    ***, as the party seeks to make itself look more representative of society before the election.***

    Following the racist anti-white BBC :) At least an MP has called them out on this.

    “The BBC’s plan to promote ethnic minority staff is racist, a Tory MP has claimed as he challenged executives to give their own jobs to black candidates if they are so passionate about diversity.

    Philip Davies said the BBC’s “politically correct targets” discriminated against the white working class, who are also under-represented at the corporation but are not the subject of diversity quotas.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10969622/BBC-plan-to-promote-ethnic-minorities-is-racist-says-MP.html

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  16. mjw (399 comments) says:

    safesally – so is National party policy that men can represent women’s interests for them? That would be interesting.

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  17. safesally (47 comments) says:

    mjw I don’t understand your question. I have not heard such a policy but I think most Nats are married so perhaps their understanding of us is probably good.
    Anyway Key verses Cunliffe; no competition, Key all the way. I feel the same throughout National verses Labour and don’t care what they have between their legs. :)

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  18. Nigel Kearney (1,046 comments) says:

    The vast majority of top chess players, poker, bridge and scrabble players are all men. But a chess board or a deck of cards is not sexist. Men outperform women by a wide margin in any intellectual endeavour where objective comparisons are possible.

    People may disagree about why things are that way. People may even disagree that choosing the best people is the correct approach. But it’s not at all surprising that selection based on merit will end up with 80% or more males.

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  19. duggledog (1,575 comments) says:

    Ooooh Nigel if I point that out to my wife she will make me sleep on the couch however true it may be. What is with that? Still, she is a far superior cook to me, much less inclined to worry about things like ‘politics’, is a great mother to our kids and is generally the best thing that ever happened to me and the world is a much better place with her in it.

    Cameron needs someone like Claudette Hauiti in his list (not).

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  20. AG (1,830 comments) says:

    The vast majority of top chess players, poker, bridge and scrabble players are all men. But a chess board or a deck of cards is not sexist. Men outperform women by a wide margin in any intellectual endeavour where objective comparisons are possible.

    Men outperform women at those games which they invented and created the rules for, therefore they are indisputably smarter than women. That’s just facts as shown by science, that is.

    But it’s not at all surprising that selection based on merit will end up with 80% or more males.

    Because obviously question number one on any selection criteria for a government appointment is, “how good are you at playing chess and/or bridge?”

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  21. mjw (399 comments) says:

    “Men outperform women by a wide margin in any intellectual endeavour where objective comparisons are possible.” … and there you have it Kiwiblog, what more evidence do you need? Oh, what about

    Marie Curie – First person to win two nobel prizes
    Jane Austen – Greatest ever novelist
    Margaret Thatcher – (choose your own description here)
    Florence Nightingale – inventor of modern nursing

    and we could go on to discuss Angela Merkel, Hilary Clinton, Christine Lagarde, Orpah Winfrey, Beyonce, Queen Victoria, and on and on and on and on.

    And if you don’t think these people were engaged in intellectual endeavours, you don’t know much.

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  22. maxwell (56 comments) says:

    Maybe men are just more interested in politics than women and, in general, women can’t be bothered with it all ?

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  23. kowtow (8,712 comments) says:

    Max Hastings take.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2693693/A-shabby-days-work-Cameron-live-regret.html

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  24. Harriet (5,085 comments) says:

    Why does everything have to be so politicised? Why does the government have to insist on pushing its PC credentials nonstop?

    Why does it make so many dopey moves to placate various minority groups?

    The white male dupes like Cameron are amongst the most PC lefty loonies around it seems.

    Sometimes you just gotta wonder how much dumber we can get, how much more politically correct we can get, and how much more appallingly “inclusive” and “tolerant” we can get.

    [with thanks to http://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/07/15/sharia-football/ ]

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  25. EAD (1,271 comments) says:

    Good points Harriet & Safesally

    What David Cameron is essentially saying is that Women are so incredibly shallow and stupid and superficial that they believe top political jobs should be allocated not according to talent but on a gender-based quota system.

    The unfortunate side effect of this is that talented women, Maori, insert minority group (here) who have a earned a senior position on merit will unfortunately thought to be second rate as outsiders will just consider their appointment as tokenism. Instead of getting the respect they rightly deserved, they will be derided as frauds.

    FFS – the best Prime Minister the UK has had since WWII was Margaret Thatcher. She didn’t get her role because of gender, she got it because she was damn well the best.

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  26. ShawnLH (5,607 comments) says:

    As far as I can tell, all Cameron has done is refresh his team and mixed it up a bit more.

    Beyond that, there is no evidence of gender-based quotas that some of our more hysteria driven commentators seem to be seeing.

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  27. EAD (1,271 comments) says:

    Yeah Shawn you clown,

    hysteria driven by the likes of myself, Max Hastings (you might have heard of him?) & Charles Moore. You know Charles Moore – the former Editor of perhaps the two most significant and intellectual Conservative publications in the English Speaking World (Spectator and the Daily Telegraph)?

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/charles-moore/2014/07/charles-moore-weve-just-seen-the-worst-reshuffle-in-25-years/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2693693/A-shabby-days-work-Cameron-live-regret.html

    But of course ShawnLH the blogger from NZ disagrees with our point of view so we must be wrong.

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  28. ShawnLH (5,607 comments) says:

    EAD, neither of the articles said anything about a gender based quota system. So who is the “we” in your statement?

    Both articles disliked the reshuffle, and they may be right, but they did so for entirely different reasons than the one you claimed.

    And why would you quote Conservatives anyway? Conservative are not anarchists, which seems to be your position.

    Stop dropping those red pills son, they are doing your connection to reality no good.

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  29. EAD (1,271 comments) says:

    Let me this straight Shaun

    you read and processed 2 articles, watched a 7.30min video, and simultaneously typed out two replies on different threads on Kiwiblog in the 9 minutes between when I posted my comment and you replied.

    Well folks, it looks like we have a winner here for mental comprehension, typing and multi-tasking skills!

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  30. ShawnLH (5,607 comments) says:

    “you read and processed 2 articles,”

    Easily. I have been able to speed read since I was 5. I get through both a novel and a theology text in a week on average.

    Now where did either article mention a gender based quota system?

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  31. EAD (1,271 comments) says:

    Shawn – you obviously didn’t watch the video with Charles Moore and merely read it’s introductory paragraph. And in Max Hastings article you obviously missed the following small section. /sarc

    “One of the burdens thrust on modern governments and businesses by political correctness is a requirement that women should be given a quota of top jobs, heedless of their fitness for them.

    At dinner once, I sat next to Maria Miller, the former Culture Secretary, who was obliged to resign earlier this year over an expenses scandal. I drove home reflecting that, if I were still a newspaper editor, I would not have thought of giving Miller a job running anything.

    She had reached the Cabinet solely because of her gender, and proved far short of the role’s demands.

    Judgment should not be passed on any of the new women in government until we see what they do. But the cause of sexual equality will gain no more than the Tories’ electoral fortunes will benefit, if they prove inadequate.

    Tokenism is insulting to women — and men.”

    Maybe your blue pills aren’t working today :)

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  32. ShawnLH (5,607 comments) says:

    And still, all they are saying is the Cameron is engaging in tokenism and political correctness. Neither article mentioned a system.

    Your statement was “a gender-based quota system.”

    Your reading what you want into them.

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  33. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    “All Quail the Pale Male”

    http://annaraccoon.com/2014/07/16/all-quail-the-pale-male/

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  34. masterman (19 comments) says:

    For all you misogynist right wingers, here’s a quote from a woman you probably do admire. Margaret Thatcher said; “I usually make up my mind about a man in ten seconds, and I very rarely change it.” From most of the comments displayed in this column, I’d reckon she’d take 5

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