WCC’s stupidest ever campaign dropped

July 29th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

The Dom Post reports:

A $40,000 campaign to reduce begging on Wellington streets has been quietly ditched, with the council saying many people were simply confused by it.

The “alternative giving” campaign was meant to encourage people to give money to charities rather than giving it directly to beggars – but it raised just $3500 in eight months.

They spent $40,000 to raise $3,500. Hard to get a bigger fail than that.

Councillor Paul Eagle, who chairs the community, sport and recreation committee, said the campaign had been stopped while the council assessed its impact – not because it hadn’t worked. “If I thought it was a complete mess, I would tell you, but I don’t.”

Well Paul is the only one who doesn’t then.

Moore was begging yesterday with Ricki Buddy Tua and Roi Gurdy, and the trio said they often pooled their earnings. Buddy Tua said he earned anywhere from $30 to $180 a day begging, which mostly went on food and sometimes cannabis and cigarettes.

More money begging than working it seems.  I give a lot to charity, but I never give to beggars.

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17 Responses to “WCC’s stupidest ever campaign dropped”

  1. Pete George (23,814 comments) says:

    There was a beggar in central Dunedin recently asking for help because he was having trouble because he’d just got an $800 power bill. Not sure how anyone would clock up a power bill that big. They should at least have believable begging lines.

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  2. KiwiGreg (3,278 comments) says:

    Well it could be multiple months plus penalties. Mine is higher than that every month. I’d sympathise with Wellington ratepayers for the waste, but I live in Auckland….

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  3. mikemikemikemike (334 comments) says:

    I take offence at the line that says he “earned” up to $180 a day begging. He didn’t earn a fucken thing, he was given charity by people with a misguided sense of guilt. To earn something requires work and effort both of which are not required if your only role is to sit in the way and smell bad.

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  4. Manolo (14,171 comments) says:

    Who is the mayor of Wellington, but an incompetent Greenie? Wow.

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  5. jcuk (757 comments) says:

    It takes a lot of effort to sit and let your body grow the smell …. hard work I’d suggest :)

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  6. Tarquin North (400 comments) says:

    Might give up living the self employed dream and give this begging idea a whirl. At least you don’t have to worry about wages or overheads and IRD wouldn’t be camped in your post office box waiting to spring every time you get the mail. Mind you $30 wouldn’t even pay the drinks bill after work in my world. Oh well back to the grind stone I suppose.

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  7. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    lol – they lost 92% of what they spent on it, but somehow that’s “not a complete mess”

    Welcome to the public service. Easy come, easy go. It’s not like you’re spending your own money or anything!

    Cr Paul Eagle = total failure. Perhaps WCC should sack him and get one of those beggars to do his job? If they can pull in $180 a day just sitting on their arse they are probably better than him..

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  8. Jack5 (5,279 comments) says:

    Free-enterprise welfare economics.

    The beggars probably vote ACT and read Ayn Rand fiction.

    Over a couple of cigarette butts they debate Ludwig von Mises and libertarianism.

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  9. Rich Prick (1,750 comments) says:

    Take $40,000 and turn it into $3,500. And that’s a good result by Council standards? They just took $2,500 off 16 ratepayers and pissed it against a wall. I’d be hoping mad if I was one of those 16.

    “and sometimes cannabis and cigarettes.”

    Right there. That’s the spot where I lost interest in those no-hopers.

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  10. Albert_Ross (337 comments) says:

    Thought we were supposed to be agreeing with John Armstrong that we didn’t like “gotcha politics” and instead seeking a mature and reasoned debate about the actual issues?

    You don’t like beggars, you never give them money, but you do give to charity instead. That is exactly what the WCC campaign was trying to encourage others to do. Why exactly then do you think that was stupid? Why do you think it didn’t work, what do you think they should have done different?

    Could we perhaps experiment and see if it is possible to have that debate, instead of demonstrating exactly what Armstrong was complaining about – and you DPF apparently agreed with him – and seeing who can come up with the most facile, cheap web-bite about how stupid everybody else is?

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  11. Jack5 (5,279 comments) says:

    What about some charities’ own beggars – better dressed, but just as persistent, stopping shoppers at malls, and even knocking on suburban doors?

    These are the foreign backpacker-type youngsters being recruited to come to NZ and collect for charities – on commission. They are signing up vulnerable folk for continuing daily or monthly commitments to give to animal rights or whatever. Apparently those who run the pesterers have been badgering the Immigration Service for easier access for these commission workers.

    If Mazda-man Campbell wasn’t so Left wing, he might have had a look at this racket.

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  12. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,704 comments) says:

    The other day Adolf and The Cook took the train to Adelaide CBD. As we stood at the lights waiting to cross Nprth terrace, a well dressed younglady stepped up to The Cook and asked “have you got a spare couple of dollars?”

    I told her to go round the corner and sell her body on the street.

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  13. queenstfarmer (782 comments) says:

    Buddy Tua said he earned anywhere from $30 to $180 a day begging

    earn
    verb

    1. obtain (money) in return for labour or services.
    “he earns his living as a lorry driver”

    2. gain deservedly in return for one’s behaviour or achievements.
    “through the years she has earned affection and esteem”

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  14. mikenmild (12,391 comments) says:

    What did the Council actually spend the $40,000 on? I didn’t notice any signs of this ‘campaign’ apart from one article in the newspaper.

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  15. Brian Smaller (3,966 comments) says:

    I cannot stand those beggars on Lampton Quay. The other day I counted five between Midland Park and Willis St. Same bozos month after month, and some are pretty able bodied. One was listening to music on his smart phone. They are an eyesore and should just be moved along by the Police. I am sure that they put people off going into the shops they park themselves outside of. At least Crazy Juggling Guy is doing something for his money. I often chuck him something as I walk past.

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  16. backster (2,196 comments) says:

    Spend $40,000 to get $3,000 = Green economics, imagine if they could also get into Government and had $40 billion.

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  17. pejhay (31 comments) says:

    I’m with Mikenmild, as a resident I don’t recall any actual publicity about it – where did the $40k go ? – should have just given it to the beggars and told them to f-off. Perhaps Celia needed some more cannabis for herself ?

    Walked past lots today heading from Lambton to Vivian, the most notable guy had a sign that simply said ‘FOOD’, I felt like I should go and buy him a can of jellimeat !

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