West Coast miners furious at EPMU for donating to the Greens

July 19th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The Greymouth evening Star reports that West Coast miners who are members are furious at the for donating $15,000 to the , when they want the industry in NZ to die out. Over a dozen miners have complained.

You can imagine how galling it would be to have your union donate a portion of your salary to a party that wants to close down the industry you work in, and effectively put you out of a job.

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24 Responses to “West Coast miners furious at EPMU for donating to the Greens”

  1. jaba (2,143 comments) says:

    about 9 years ago I swapped jobs for an 1 1/2 years and “had to” join the NDU .. gave me the shits knowing some of my money was going to the Labour Party (it was around that time I stopped voting Labour by the way). If I had found out my union gave money to the Gweens I would had hit the roof, resigned from the union and donated the fee value to charity.

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  2. big bruv (13,935 comments) says:

    It serves these morons right for joining a union in the first place.

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  3. Johnboy (16,722 comments) says:

    You have to be a dumb bastard to want to go down in a bloody hole in the ground to earn a crust so I guess they need the union to do their thinking for them anyway so why are they moaning? :)

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  4. ldypen (40 comments) says:

    Unions give me the shits.. If they just stuck to advocating for their members to get the best deal as far as wages and conditions go that’s fine… but to give even $1.00 to ANY political party is just theft as far as I and concerned… did they ask ANY of their members what they thought about this… bet they did NOT, just a bunch of commie bastards!

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  5. Nostradamus (3,350 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    Not quite.

    You have to be a dumb bastard to want to go down in a bloody hole in the ground to earn a crust, and then give a significant slice of that crust to the EPMU so they can donate to a political party that wants to stop you going down in bloody holes in the ground, so I guess they need the union to do their thinking for them anyway so why are they moaning?

    Fixed it for you!

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  6. Johnboy (16,722 comments) says:

    Miners are just like bloody Wharfies/Tool Screechers Nostradamus. Bleat all the time about how hard done by they are then hand over their bloody hard earned cash to a bunch of union pricks that use it like monoply money to prop up their uni buddies that have wangled their way into parliaments easy street. They are all dumb fucks! :)

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  7. tas (625 comments) says:

    This should be illegal IMHO. Unions should be helping their members, not getting mixed up in politics. No one should be joining or donating to a political party without making that decision themselves.

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  8. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “Unions give me the shits..”

    Does arselips O’Conner’s union give you the shits Idypen?

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  9. big bruv (13,935 comments) says:

    Of all the things I want the next Key government to do one of the first is to introduce legislation into the house to make it illegal for union dues to be deducted from a workers wages.

    Make the unions work for the money they steal from the morons who are their members, make them send out an annual membership fee or get them to arrange a direct debit from their members bank accounts.

    Either way it would be a win/win. Those idiots who remain union members would demand more for their money, the rest would wake up to what waste of money being a union member is and cancel their membership.

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  10. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    In respect of the connection between the miners and their union: I would respectfully suggest that there is a need for advocacy and that while in the ‘old days’ thuis was done by the various miners’ unions, this activity has been replaced by the EPMU. When one is underground and a long way from any contact with ‘management’, the existence of an ‘advocate’ to act (supposedly) on one’s behalf is essential. This has long been the tradition within the mining industry, and has definitely improved both wages and conditions within the sector.

    Where the problem would seem to have arisen, is that the local (‘Miner’s elected BTW) EPMU delegate has, (probably unilaterally), donated an amount of the contributed funds they (he? she?) have received for use in ‘Union related business’, and directed it to the gweens. This would seem to be a reflection of the EPMU delegate’s political and personal leanings, rather than those of the union per se, and may well have been given without due discussion or the authorisation of the contributor members.

    As such, I would suggest that the ‘generous’ delegate should now be giving serious consideration to their future employment since (as others have already pointed out), to contribute to an organisation that by its own admission, is determined to destroy the industry you ‘supposedly’ represent, is probably not the most tactful of actions.

    BTW: Given that the gweens are all about ‘fuzzy liddle animals’ and ‘saving all things natural’, and that such things appeal to those of the female persuasion rather than male, one does have do have to wonder if the EPMU delegate was female; acting in response to ‘heart’ rather than ‘mind’ when doing so.

    It will be interesting to see how this develops, given that it is election year and all that. I suspect the gweens have scored a fairly massive ‘own goal, especially as ‘Coaster’s’ have VERY long memories.

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  11. RF (1,407 comments) says:

    Never mind all this adverse publicity about Labour and the Greens shafting the West Coast will make a few anal sphincter muscles tighten over on the left. The West Coast has always been taken for granted by that lot.

    The National candidate is a very good choice to win the seat off the anti gay labour person.

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  12. scrubone (3,099 comments) says:

    The EPMU is huge, so it’s not surprising to see this happen. If the miners want their interests represented, they should separate out.

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  13. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

    whats next? will the union start donating money to guys who fuck union members wives? HAHAHAHA

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  14. Kimble (4,440 comments) says:

    What you guys, and these miners, are missing is all the hundreds of thousands of jobs that will be created when we stop mining, stop farming, stop foresting, etc.

    If people cant be farmers, foresters, or miners, then they will be forced to become something else! That means we get rid of icky bad jobs, and create new good ones! That’s how Green economic growth works!

    P.S this is a parody, but I am not convinced it isn’t how some Greenies think. These are the people, after all, who claim that increasing taxes on people and businesses just gives them incentives to become more efficient with their resources to maintain their existing level of income.

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  15. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    Kimble

    Well put.

    There is however a very strange thing about ‘…All the hundreds of thousands of jobs that will be created when we stop mining, stop farming, stop foresting, etc’ This is is that they are remarkably nebulous and for some strange reason are never actually presented in ‘solid’ form (ie, even on paper) so that they can be per assessed and costed-out.

    Yet the gweens assure us they are definitely out there; we merely have to vote gween and they will all ‘magically’ appear (but ONLY if we vote gween).

    Very, very strange indeed…

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  16. Kimble (4,440 comments) says:

    Komata

    Of course, those jobs DO exist.

    They are the jobs that the farmers, miners, and foresters didnt want, instead choosing to be farmers, miners, and foresters.

    They are the second choice jobs, and everyone has one.

    They are the jobs where you’re stuck inside, or the jobs with short hours but many days on, or the jobs that aren’t as exciting, or the jobs a long way from home.

    They are the jobs where you are out in the elements, or the jobs with long hours, or the jobs that are too risky, or the jobs too close to the rest of your family.

    They are often the jobs that don’t pay as well.

    This is why the Greens interventions into the economy (banning some industries, subsidising the competition to others) is so evil. The people affected will find other sources of employment, but they wont be their first choice. This is the real cost against which the supposed benefits of Greenie meddling (or any parties meddling for that matter) has to be weighed.

    Labour in the 1980’s made hard decisions that upset and hurt a lot of people. Those werent done lightly. And the benefits outweighed the transiroty costs.

    For the Greens, far too often the benefits are emotional, ego driven, and quasi-religious.

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  17. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    Kimble

    Re: ‘For the Greens, far too often the benefits are emotional, ego driven, and quasi-religious’.

    Exactly; just don’t say that in a gween meeting; it upsets them somewhat…

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  18. Bob (497 comments) says:

    National should take advantage of the situation by assuring unionists they will not stop future mining. Miners will be better off than under Labour/Greens. Unions won’t have to donate to National and can just advocate for their members.

    Supporting Labour is deeply embedded in unionists but it doesn’t have to continue.

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  19. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    Bob

    Traditionally, Labour support is a ‘family’- generational’ matter amongst miners; to vote otherwise would, in some instances I am aware of, akin to excommunication from the RC church. Such occurances can result in rifts which never heal…

    To vote for the ‘Capitalists’ / Tories in such an environment, while it isn’t unknown, requires one to be a very brave man. . .

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  20. Slipster (177 comments) says:

    So the miners woke up finally?
    Didn’t they know their trade union was ALWAYS anti-employment?
    One way or another, it always finds a way to sabotage the very jobs its own members hold.
    This is just the most brazen and direct step in that direction, guess someone in the top
    union hierarchy got too careless about covering their tracks.

    Well, better late than never I guess. Welcome to the real world Coasties.

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  21. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Big bruv at 3.27:

    It serves these morons right for joining a union in the first place.

    Big Spiv, you wouldn’t have a hundredth of the gumption it would take to work underground as a non-unionist in a union mine, let alone accuse miners to their face of being morons.

    An undergound miner has more guts in his little finger nail than you’ll find in a train load of Wellington white-collar commuters.

    Yes, they can be a stubborn bunch to cross, and I disagree with their politics, but they deserve far more respect than metropolitan slobs who call them morons.

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  22. Left Right and Centre (2,986 comments) says:

    I wonder what the party support breakdown is for miners ?

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  23. machiavelli (1 comment) says:

    Firstly west-coast underground coalminers are some of the hardest people you will come across, it don’t get much more dangerous than down a west-coast mine, so those calling them morons show some respect. As for the EPMU a bunch of self-severing scum who,s only out to feather there own nest

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  24. Liberty (267 comments) says:

    “all the hundreds of thousands of jobs”
    The Greens claim that there is “ hundreds of thousands of Green jobs” Once the Greens destroy there pet hates. Farming, Mining,Milling and fishing.
    How is a miner working underground or a cocky out in the wops preventing the formation of green jobs now. They don’t prevent. They just don’t fit in with Greens social engineering plans.

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