12 people turn out in South Auckland for the Labour Leader

August 5th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

Labour leader has gone out on the hustings in South Auckland in a bid to convince voters an upset election win is “within striking range”.

Cunliffe said he was optimistic he could be the next prime minister.

“I’m entirely confident we can do this,” he said.

“Nobody said it was easy but it’s doable.”

Cunliffe met voters in Otara, where he said he was maximising party support in the traditional Labour heartland.

He described National’s claims it was gaining ground in Mangere and other parts of South Auckland as “absolute rubbish”.

“Our polling shows the reverse … It’s a desperate PR sideshow from the National Party and there’s no truth to it.”

Cunliffe told a small group of about 12 people who turned up to hear him speak at Manukau Institute of Technology that the best thing for jobs and the economy would be to oust National.

Only 12 people turned up in South Auckland to hear the Labour Party Leader. Wow.

Labour was within 3 per cent or 4 per cent of forming a coalition government, he said.

They are within 3% to 4%, but only if the coalition includes the Greens, NZ First, Mana and Internet parties.

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39 Responses to “12 people turn out in South Auckland for the Labour Leader”

  1. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    Is it unreasonable to assume the twelve included a driver, his PA, the local candidate, the electorate NZLP Chair, and the venue custodian.
    Who were the other six?

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  2. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    Oh god. 12.

    Can you imagine what that would do to an ego the size of his?

    Wonder if he put on his “bro” accent for them :)

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  3. Colville (2,272 comments) says:

    What day are the televised debates? I cant wait :-)

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  4. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    I’m sorry for being a Palangi

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  5. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    And the net result will no doubt be 12 fewer votes for Labour.

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  6. skyblue (211 comments) says:

    Could have held the meeting in a Phone Box, but these do not exist anymore.

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  7. Positan (390 comments) says:

    “Our polling shows the reverse … ”

    Patently Labour’s polling is far more imaginative than realistic – something that has yet to dawn on them.
    But, on further reflection, when did dyed-in-the-wool Leftists ever want to confront reality or actuality?

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  8. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Mathew Hooten reported last week that polling he had undertaken one evening of 150 people had Labour at a massive 17% support. If Cunliffe is relying on the Roy Morgan poll to justify his claim that Labour is within “striking range” he is even more deluded than first thought.

    But to be fair, the Stuff story said “about 12″; there may in fact have been 13 or 14 people there, including all Cunliffe’s hangers-on.

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  9. Yvette (2,824 comments) says:

    As with those last two of the Cunliffe American-style leadership secret trust donors, none of these twelve will be named out of respect that to do so may cause them considerable and undue embarrassment :-)

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  10. Radman (143 comments) says:

    His hangers-on total 11! But that number is more than the Jaffas in the jar on Campbell Live for Christine Rankin last night – the Green candidate had more support than Quizteam Ranking!

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  11. G152 (350 comments) says:

    Not even a bakers dozen… maybe it was a halfbaked dozen ?

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  12. Yvette (2,824 comments) says:

    Back in the heyday of Sir Robert Muldoon it was said that Sir Robert knew each of the then unemployed by their first names – all twelve of them.

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  13. Lance (2,662 comments) says:

    @Radman
    Is there an English translation to what you just wrote?

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  14. Pete George (23,602 comments) says:

    Yvette – I’ve heard that story as being about Keith Holyoake.

    It was rumoured that one of the Prime Ministers of that time, Keith Holyoake, knew the names of the 19 unemployed!

    http://www.21learn.org/archive/our-secondary-schools-dont-work-anymore-introduction/

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  15. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    I thought it was about Reddy’s beloved Sid Holland. Probably apocryphal.

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  16. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    miken, I heard Sid Holland was a reformer, slightly left wing, and liked wearing dresses. Just sayin :) Im sure weddy can confirm.

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  17. Radman (143 comments) says:

    Is there an English translation to what I wrote? Yes there is. The Green candidate will get more votes than Quizteam Ranking in Epsom. Haven’t you seen Nothing Trivial?

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  18. band4u (20 comments) says:

    So on that logic, Peters who has hundreds turning out will bolt in. Funny about Cunliff though. His meeting in Hamilton East was packed. wonder how many Bennet could pull?

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  19. Yvette (2,824 comments) says:

    Pete George – obviously then Muldoon said it earlier
    when there were only 12 :-)

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  20. flipper (4,084 comments) says:

    Is it true that J Key will open National’s election campaign in South Auckland / Otara ?????

    Is it true that the guests/attendees will include Jonah Lomu, Michael Jones, Inga the Winger, David Tua et al ????

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  21. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    @ band4u – since when has David Bennett been the leader of the National Party. It helps when you compare apples with apples, not an egg with a grape.

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  22. flipper (4,084 comments) says:

    Pete George (22,890 comments) says:

    August 5th, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Yvette – I’ve heard that story

    ****

    Let us keep the conversation light…

    It was not Syd, although unemployment then was demonstrated by a habitual labour shortage.

    It was a common saying when Kiwi Keith was PM, due to his extraordinary, politicians memory for faces and names..

    Robert David was good, but he mostly remembered, and never forgot, those he believed had “crossed” him (not to be confused with those who bested him on an issue).

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  23. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    From a Phil Goff speech in 2006:
    ‘In the 1950s New Zealand was one of the richest countries in the world on a per capita basis. The official number of unemployed in 1959 was 21. A year later it was 22. We joked that the Prime Minister personally knew the names of everyone who didn’t have a job!’
    I can’t find a source for this old story. I think it will just remain an old story.

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  24. Rick Rowling (813 comments) says:

    Well, that’s 12 found, only 999,988 more missing voters to mobilise!

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  25. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    :lol: LOL

    Thanks for the good times, Mr Cunliffe.

    I shall remember you as a guy with a slightly amusing surname, who was not very good.

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  26. beautox (422 comments) says:

    Perhaps he was charging too much. Only JK can get away with charging thousands for dinner. Oh, it was free? Bummer. Well you could always try paying people to come, that might work.

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  27. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    And… at the risk of sounding seriously racist and ignorant … DARE I SAY IT, but young PIs and Maoris are not the sedentary helpless potatoes that Cunliffe (via the Labour party’s dated socialist manifesto) probably believes them to be.

    Labour could do worse than to actually listen to a bit of South Auckland Hip Hop. It’s not American blues, endlessly and impotently whining about how bad everything is, and wishing things would just be different, like the attitude that the white socialist Labour party core seems stuck in. It is an aspirational subculture, fostering a growing attitude that a life of going without on the wrong side of the tracks is something you fight against and rise up out of.

    Why does he think unapologetic self-made millionaire John Key is so popular in sth AK?

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  28. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    According to a friend who lectures at the Institute who I just checked with to see if she had gone – she didn’t because of work commitments :-

    1. It wasn’t a public meeting.
    2. It was only advertised internally at Manukau Institute
    3. Held between 3.30-5 pm, which excluded most of the invited staff members.
    3. It was free.
    4. Shockingly organised and managed in her opinion – someone didn’t do their job properly.

    – lets not get carried away trying to imply it was the entire population of South Auckland that chose not to attend – especially when they weren’t invited, or even knew about it!

    He will probably get at least 20 at the public meetings, providing they aren’t held at tea time.

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  29. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    The left wing nutters are now clinging onto the Rogue Morgan poll without realising that the Rogue Morgan poll will show entirely opposite result next time…..I pity them……

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  30. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    “Dirty Dozen”

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  31. Changeiscoming (190 comments) says:

    Colin Craig is getting more people to his meetings than David Cunliffe. That would have been news normally but now it is just standard.

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  32. David Garrett (7,318 comments) says:

    Judith: I have reason to doubt you, but if Key had decided to make a speech there at the same time, it would have been standing room only..

    The “…knew all the unemployed personally” story is from the Holyoake era rather than Muldoon’s, and is obviously apocryphal…

    What is interesting is to compare that period – with lets say a couple of dozen unemployed – to the middle years of the Clark government. Clark boasted – justifiably – that “everyone in New Zealand who wants a job has got one.” Why then did we still have 20,000 or whatever it was on the dole instead of 25? the answers surely are obvious: the dole is now far too easy to get, and we have a significant segment of the population who believes being “on the bene” is a valid lifestyle choice.

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  33. David Garrett (7,318 comments) says:

    I live near Helensville, a dreary town 35 k’s north of Auckland. Wednesday and Thursday are the “bene” days, and the days the town is busiest. Those days are notable for the young men lounging around the town talking to their mates. Without exception, they have cellphones, often high end ones (Yes, I have looked). They are invariably smoking, and have tattoos. All of those things – cellphones, fags and tattoos – cost money ..YOUR money.

    What is even more disturbing to me are the young girls pushing babies in strollers, sometimes but usually not, accompanied by one of the said tattooed young men with a fag in their face. How can those kids possibly have a good productive future when those are their parents? Why on earth would they consider working an option?

    This government has made a good start of removing the incentive for vapid young women to keep pumping out children. It is high time they did the same for the dole lifestylers.

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  34. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,520 comments) says:
    August 5th, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Judith: I have reason to doubt you,

    You always do David – you doubt anyone that doesn’t agree with you on any issue – I mean how could they not see how you are so right about absolutely every thing!

    However, whatever your reason, that is what I was told – it was not a public meeting and not advertised to the general public – if you can provide proof – then by all means do so – if it’s so damn important to you – perhaps you could go out and take a photo of the advertising etc.

    You are right, many more would turn up to John Key – but my post wasn’t in defence of Cunliffe, just merely reporting what I was told. Somehow you persistently take everything soooo personally – quite revealing.

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  35. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    That’s still 12 people who’ve got sufficiently low intellect as to have never noticed that every Labour government for the last 50 years has ended in economic ruin.

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  36. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    Judith

    3. Held between 3.30-5 pm, which excluded most of the invited staff members.

    Labour invited people who have jobs ??? Are you sure they are trying to gain votes from people that actually are “other peoples money” to their core voter base rather than just the sponges who vote to ride on the backs of productive people ?

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  37. Doug (410 comments) says:

    Judith

    JOSH FAGAN from the press knew about the meeting must have been advertised.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10346878/Cunliffe-takes-campaign-to-Otara

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  38. Steve (North Shore) (4,565 comments) says:

    Those 12 people were probably on a rostered day off. The rest of Otara could not come because they were too busy working and paying Tax.
    No? I’ll get my hat and coat

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  39. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    The 12 union members working in that area. They’ve probably paid toward the campaign so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised they are silly enough to turn up when they are silly enough to fund it.

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