Another one – this time in Mt Albert

August 10th, 2014 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Jew Vandal

I find this very disturbing. Now that people deface ’s billboards. But this is the second one that has painted anti Jewish signs on one of his billboards, and in this case a swastika.

Hatred based on someone’s race is very very ugly.

Key is not Jewish, in the religious sense. Yes he has Jewish bloodline through his mother, but he is not religious.

It is disturbing that we have people in our community who hate Jews so much, they feel the need to do vandalism like this.

I hope those responsible get caught the next time they do.

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A reader sent the above in. The National Front could well be behind the other graffiti. I can’t imagine too many people think swastikas are cool.

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193 Responses to “Another one – this time in Mt Albert”

  1. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

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  2. RRM (9,774 comments) says:

    We have a gentleman here in Featherston with NAZI tattooed across his forehead. No idea if he knows what it really means…

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  3. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “I suppose we will never know for sure who is behind it.”

    What the ?
    You seriously can’t figure out who is behind this??

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  4. Jack5 (5,007 comments) says:

    C’mon National supporters! There must be a few of you well heeled enough to put up a reward sufficient to identify the trash who are putting up this filth.

    In the meantime, to rule out the possibility this is the work of Islamic fundamentalist fanatics, it would be helpful to get some sort denunciation of the vandalism from the following:

    1. The group that has been accused of having links with people with NZ citizenship fighting for the butchers in the Middle East.

    2.Herr Dotcom to rule out the possibility it’s the work of some of the trash he worked into a yelling frenzy against John Key.

    3. Perhaps Kyle Chapman might add his denunciation, too, seeing that in Kiwiblog columns his group has been accused of perhaps being behind an earlier anti-Semitic attach on a John Key poster.

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  6. SGA (983 comments) says:

    RRM at 3:07 pm

    We have a gentleman here in Featherston with NAZI tattooed across his forehead. No idea if he knows what it really means…

    You see similar on Mongrel Mob members too – such unlikely advertisements for Aryan supremacy. I guess to them it just means “bad ass” and “in your face”.

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  7. adze (2,088 comments) says:

    This is why any attempt to paint racism as something only “certain groups” can be guilty of should be vigorously countered; It’s not just a lie, it’s a dangerous lie.

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  8. SGA (983 comments) says:

    Longknives at 3:10 pm

    You seriously can’t figure out who is behind this??

    Grey Power?

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  9. wreck1080 (3,866 comments) says:

    This is the language of evil.

    In fact, a large number of people in this world are evil.

    Just looking at these 150,000 people stuck on an mountain in Iraq with muslims wanting to slaughter all of them.

    The hate and evil is amazing.

    Happens in africa too.

    This human era will be remembered as the second dark ages in the distant future.

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  10. unitedtribes (30 comments) says:

    Please don’t apologies for what John Key is or isn’t. He’s the best PM we have ever had. Just apologise for what NZ is heading into. A raciest society led by the left.

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  11. RRM (9,774 comments) says:

    Jack5:

    1 Islamists are not Nazis;

    3 Kyle Chapman’s Soft Cock Resistance are not active in Auckland, there are too many brown fellas who would laugh at them and then give them the bash up there;

    So that leaves 2… OF COURSE it’s smelly leftists!

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  13. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “I’m sorry, I can’t believe that any of National’s political opponents would be behind this”

    ????
    Words fail me Mikey….

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  15. Dean Papa (787 comments) says:

    I welcome a more racey society

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  17. Fisiani (1,025 comments) says:

    the vandals are Greens. They are Taliban.

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  18. adze (2,088 comments) says:

    @daniel carter

    And the earlier example further north? That used black paint – was that chosen to link to the IMP?

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  19. masterman (19 comments) says:

    As much as I detest JK and everything he stands for, I cannot condone this kind of insult. It is disturbing, ugly and uncalled for

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  20. Odakyu-sen (574 comments) says:

    “We have a gentleman here in Featherston with NAZI tattooed across his forehead. No idea if he knows what it really means…”

    I imagine he has images in his mind of what he thinks Nazi are, but I doubt that he really understands the guiding principles behind the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

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  21. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    “C’mon National supporters! There must be a few of you well heeled enough to put up a reward sufficient to identify the trash who are putting up this filth.”

    Or better still stake the locations out and when they catch the cowardly scum give them the same kind of justice the recent young burglar got from the Blues rugby player.

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  22. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Yeah, who needs the rule of law anyway, eh Redbaiter?

    http://web.stanford.edu/~ldiamond/iraq/DemocracyEducation0204.htm

    Democracy is a system of rule by laws, not individuals. In a democracy, the rule of law protects the rights of citizens, maintains order, and limits the power of government.

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  23. PaulL (6,030 comments) says:

    @mikenmild: really, there’s nobody dumb enough on the left to do this?

    My logic chain as to why it’s not the right goes:
    1. If you were dumb, you wouldn’t think it was likely to benefit the right
    2. If you were smart enough to think it might benefit the right (I’m pretty sure it won’t), you’d be smart enough not to do it because if you got caught it would be a disaster in the election

    Whereas if it were someone on the left, then we’re looking for someone dumb. There is no shortage of dumb in NZ. Or dumb and drunk, for that matter.

    I realise you’d rather it weren’t someone from the left, but wishing that doesn’t make it true.

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  24. Jack5 (5,007 comments) says:

    Re RRM at 3.20:

    You may be right about Chapman, though when talking about too many what you call “brown fellas”, you should remember Chapman is part-Maori, as are most of the “brown fellas” you allude to.

    I agree that most followers of Islam aren’t Nazis, but you don’t have to be a Nazi to hate Jews. Have a glance at the piece in the Spectator from which this brief extract comes:

    In Britain over 40 per cent of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by men of Middle Eastern or Asian appearance, and some 37 per cent of Muslims believe Jews in Britain are a legitimate target in the fight against Israel.

    Also, in London, where the ISIS black flag has been seen at demonstrations, Douglas Murray writes in the Spectator about one demo in which a gang of about 20 threatened Guardian journalists:

    When a passerby tried to take a picture of the flag on a phone, one of the gang asked him if he was Jewish. The passerby replied: “Would it make a difference?” The youth said: “Yes, it fucking would.”

    Reading:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/edwest/2014/08/anti-semitism-in-britain-makes-me-feel-ashamed/

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2014/08/the-black-flag-of-isis-is-flying-in-london/

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  25. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    PaulL
    I think daniel carter above has the options about right. We might argue about the likely percentages, that’s all.

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  26. PaulL (6,030 comments) says:

    @masterman: what is it that Key stands for that you detest? The idea of balancing our budget and living within our means? The idea of self reliance and that there should be rewards for having a job? The idea that we should focus on what draws us together instead of what divides us? Just come out and tell us what it is that you detest so much, I’m sure it’s easy.

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  27. muggins (3,341 comments) says:

    Does anyone take any notice of those billboards? I reckon we could well do without them.

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  28. Steve (North Shore) (4,544 comments) says:

    Those who are doing this and the Party/s they support should never have the power to govern. Imagine NZ run by these brain dead low rent dysfunctional dropkicks. Bloody commies

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  29. JeffW (325 comments) says:

    RRM at 3:07

    Re the idiot with NAZI tattooed on his forehead – it means he will never have to get a job and can bludge off the taxpayer for all his life; after all, no-one will ever employ him.

    If it were up to me, I would make it a requirement to receive the dole that one was presentable.

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  31. burt (8,199 comments) says:

    It is impossible to Godwin this thread.

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  32. SGA (983 comments) says:

    Steve at 3:46 pm

    Those who are doing this and the Party/s they support should never have the power to govern. Imagine NZ run by these brain dead low rent dysfunctional dropkicks

    There’s a reasonable chance that the brain-dead low-rent dysfunctional dropkicks who did this don’t support any party in any meaningful sense. They are probably first and foremost brain-dead low-rent dysfunctional dropkicks.

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  33. JeffW (325 comments) says:

    “Key is not Jewish, in the religious sense. Yes he has Jewish bloodline through his mother, but he is not religious”.

    Sorry DPF, I must point that whether or not John Key is a practicing Jew is irrelevant. The defacing of billboards like this is abhorrent, whether John Key is a practicing Jew or not. This is an absolute, not worsened by him not practicing.

    I am only pleased that the international media has not picked up on this disgrace and made the country an object of disrepute, rather than the abhorrence belonging solely to some left wing nutter(s).

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  34. burt (8,199 comments) says:

    Judith

    You are right, political advertising has always been an easy target for dissent and misinformation. Clark even had hers heavily modified by Photoshop artists and they got more and more extreme at each election.

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  35. Ross Miller (1,686 comments) says:

    For anyone who thinks this isn’t the work of the ‘left’ then I invite them to scroll thru Blogroll Left and observe the hate and venom directed against John Key and National … and I’m only referring to the more rationale comments … sigh

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  36. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Big pro Israel rally at QE2 Square in Auckland this afternoon. Peaceful and positive

    No media coverage though.

    Best sign of the day goes to “There is no Mana in Hamas”

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  37. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    “The more you say how terrible it is, the more they will do it! ”

    I am guessing their mothers may have been a lot like you.

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  38. John T (2 comments) says:

    This is evidence the sort of low-life, anti social, envious, non achiever, do nothing, give-me mentality that those who wish to can manipulate for their own self serving ends. This is not where N Z needs to go. This should be a police matter. I don’t vote Labour, Greens, or Internet- Mana; but if their hoardings were vandalised I’d say the same thing. Enough! Get the police on it pronto.

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  39. Simon (728 comments) says:

    Going to go with Unionist on this one.

    The “working for NZ” probably pushed him over the edge. The evil Tory has co-op a word that belongs to the proletariat. The workers are exploited by the capital owner class yet one of them is using working for self promotion.

    The jew is also a reaction to left wing identity politics.

    Very angry indeed utterly lacking in self awareness. All in all your standard leftie.

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  40. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    As I posted on GD. A friend was called Al-Yahud Khazeer several times in front of his daughter last night at Britomart. This means you Jewish pig in Arabic.

    I’m starting to get very concerned for my daughter and her nieces. I don’t care what people call me or think of me, but young children don’t need to grow up in this environment which for the last month has started getting very scary for Jews around the world

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  41. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ burt (7,883 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Exactly! Nothing but lies on them anyway ! Anyone stupid enough to place a vote according to what is written on a billboard, would never be able to work out how to fill in the voting form.

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  42. SGA (983 comments) says:

    Ross Miller at 3:56 pm

    For anyone who thinks this isn’t the work of the ‘left’ then I invite them to scroll thru Blogroll Left and observe the hate and venom directed against John Key and National … and I’m only referring to the more rationale comments … sigh

    Thank goodness Kiwiblog remains an island of political, racial, and religious tolerance in an ocean of small-minded bigotry.

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  43. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ John T (2 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Labour’s billboards have been vandalised – some of them almost pornographic, the Maori Party billboard down the road had minor damage when someone tried to set it alight – but the idiot tried to do it in the rain (doh). It’s not an exclusive National thing, although Key seems to be the only one being called a Jew. Mallard was given a hitler moustache according to the picture on the news the other night.

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  44. RRM (9,774 comments) says:

    When I was about 9 or 10 there was a general election, and I delighted in acquiring all the political propaganda that came through mum and dad’s letterbox (irrespective of political allegiance, religious or ethnic persuasion of the candidate) and defacing them with most or all of the following:
    :arrow: Swastika armbands
    :arrow: Imperial German skullcaps (with spike)
    :arrow: words like “bullshit’
    :arrow: Missing front teeth
    :arrow: Beards (the female candidates)
    :arrow: Hoop earrings (the male candidates)
    :arrow: Twink dandruff on their shoulders
    :arrow: Erupting zits and other facial sores
    :arrow: etc

    It was hours of fun! :-)

    I know, real mature.

    But in my defense, I was ten…

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  45. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    “But in my defense, I was ten…”

    Last election then.

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  46. itstricky (1,770 comments) says:

    For anyone who thinks this isn’t the work of the ‘left’ then I invite them to scroll thru Blogroll Left and observe the hate and venom directed against John Key and National … and I’m only referring to the more rationale comments … sigh

    Of course, it’s the commie left and of course they only target National. That damn meglamanic Dotcom, vandalising errrr… hold on… errr…. his own billboards?

    http://ultimatestudent.co.nz/pictures/election-billboards-nz-tagging/

    Some of these are actually funny. Some are actually artistic to a degree. I think the “Internet NA”, “Holy smoke Batman” and “Moa” ones are best. The dog one is fantastic, the image, for some reason, just fits so perfectly.

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  47. David Garrett (6,977 comments) says:

    Out here in the rural sector it is disturbing to see ACT billboards featuring the deputy leader Kenneth Wang defaced with similarly racist slurs…in this case of course it is references to Kenneth being an Asian and not a Jew…

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  48. Nukuleka (297 comments) says:

    ‘Key is not Jewish, in the religious sense’ seems a rather odd thing to write. I guess that weighty tomes have been written by learned philosophers about just what constitutes a ‘Jew’ but surely most people in modern secular society would conclude that any child born of at least one Jewish parent was also a Jew- irrespective of whether or not they practice Judaism.

    Somehow I doubt that the SS were much bothered about the finer points of synagogue attendance of the 6 million arrested and exterminated in Nazi concentration camps. A Jew was a Jew was a Jew to them, I am sure. I am also sure that John Key is mightily proud of his heritage and he has every right so to be.

    When there are folk like IMP’s John Minto who can write so readily of ‘Israeli butchers’ then it is quite easy to see where the current flame of anti- Semite graffiti is being fanned.

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  49. Slipster (141 comments) says:

    mikenmild (10,940 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 3:21 pm
    “I’m sorry, I can’t believe that any of National’s political opponents would be behind this.”
    —–
    You can’t? Then maybe you can remind us (and yourself) who was it caught red-handed last election defacing National billboards? Perhaps you can even recall what relationship they had with the certain Gweenie” party?

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  50. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    itstricky (1,610 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Some of these are actually funny. Some are actually artistic to a degree.

    Sorry, I think you might be in the wrong blog – those would require the reader to have a sense of humour, a taste in art, and the ability to get ‘over themselves’. Of course vandalism is serious, but once its done, it is okay to laugh – unless you are worried about something. :-)

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  51. Unity (484 comments) says:

    Disgusting acts. However, it says more about the people who do this rather than John Key. Only those of very low intelligence and nasty characters would stoop to such tactics. Anyway, they could work more in National’s favour than against. I’m all for the suggestion above of paying a reward or staking the billboards out to bring the low lifes to justice. Publish their names or even better still put them in stocks (bring them back!!) and let’s all pound them with rotten tomatoes or eggs.

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  52. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    “Some of these are actually funny.”

    They’re cowardly.

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  53. adze (2,088 comments) says:

    Sorry, I think you might be in the wrong blog – those would require the reader to have a sense of humour, a taste in art, and the ability to get ‘over themselves’. Of course vandalism is serious, but once its done, it is okay to laugh – unless you are worried about something.

    I don’t (yet) see any downticks on itstricky’s comment.

    Probably because some of those examples were funny, and not just racist shit by some low-brow fuckwit.

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  54. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    This isn’t just about plan old vandalism

    People who are okay with this are accepting that the word Jew is associated with negative connotations and is an offensive term.

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  55. itstricky (1,770 comments) says:

    They’re cowardly.

    Aw, come on Red – you mean you don’t like taking the piss out of all politicians? Cloning the Moa? The Internet Party that isn’t anything to do with The Internet? A very obvious interpretation of CCCP’s “on a short leash…”? (actually that last one may have been the one that tipped you over the edge)

    They say a smile cures 100 diseases. Actually, they don’t say that, I just made it up.

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  56. David Garrett (6,977 comments) says:

    But for the record…(and not in any way to condone this disgraceful vandalism) …Key is a Jew by the rules and practices of that faith…descent – and therefore ethnicity – is through the female line, and Key’s mother was Jewish..therefore so is he, whether he is “practising” or not…

    But so what? That doesn’t make that ugly graffito any less ugly…

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  57. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ Southern Raider (1,629 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Sorry, but Jew is not a bad word. John Key has himself talked about his heritage. Calling him a jew is being realistic. Placing a swastika under it is the offensive part. That has the nasty connotation.

    Some people accept being called a Jew with pride.

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  58. kowtow (8,175 comments) says:

    sothern raider

    The connotations are deeply disturbing. The swastika along with ‘Jew” connotes a genocidal message.

    Very sinister. Goes well beyond offensive.

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  59. SGA (983 comments) says:

    adze at 4:22 pm

    Probably because some of those examples were funny, and not just racist shit by some low-brow fuckwit.

    While not particularly witty, the Dalek was very well done!

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  60. kowtow (8,175 comments) says:

    Pride ?judith as usual twisting what southern rider said to suit her agenda.

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  61. Redbaiter (8,318 comments) says:

    “Aw, come on Red – you mean you don’t like taking the piss out of all politicians? ”

    Taking the piss out of politicians is one thing.

    Sneaking about at night defacing private property with ugly smears is the act of an ignorant coward.

    And some of the political premises underpinning the smears show just how ignorant these yellow backs are.

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  62. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ adze (1,894 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    I like the twerking one. That conjours up all sorts of mental images – imagine the Speaker lead a mass ‘twerking’ in the house!! A very clever play on the ‘working’ theme.

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  63. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Judith are you Jewish? What do you know.

    He isn’t being labelled as a Jew as a descriptor. Everyone knows he is. He is being labelled as a Jew because his opponents view this as negative thing.

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  64. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    People who are okay with this are accepting that the word Jew is associated with negative connotations and is an offensive term.

    Fact is that there are negative connotations, even according to their own religious texts. Of course there are positive ones too – the point being that being Jewish doesn’t mean that people are forbidden from criticizing you.

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  65. SGA (983 comments) says:

    Judith at 4:32 pm

    I like the twerking one. That conjours up all sorts of mental images

    I’m beginning to understand Johnboy’s fascination with you.

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  66. Griff (7,343 comments) says:

    Cowardly
    redspeak =
    I dont agree with their politics.

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  67. RRM (9,774 comments) says:

    It’stricky –

    Absolute fucking gold, we are still in tears, thanks for posting!

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  68. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Okay UT. So if someone defaced all the Maori Party billboards with Nigger that would be okay?

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  69. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    And what negative connotations are their in my religious texts?

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  70. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    Southern Raider (1,630 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:34 pm
    Judith are you Jewish? What do you know.

    My father was often told he had a jewish nose. He would tell the story of his maternal great grandfather’s marriage – he was a jew, and married a girl with gypsy blood – their love story is quite touching. My father was extremely proud of his heritage – that is how I know.

    PS you have no way of knowing how his opponents view this, unless you are one, or have asked them. You are presuming their motivation.

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  71. RRM (9,774 comments) says:

    People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small.
    They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it.
    They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
    Fuck That.
    Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
    You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you.
    They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.

    Banksy

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  72. Other_Andy (2,572 comments) says:

    Southern Raider says at 4:00 pm

    That’s one of the reasons I left Europe for New Zealand and I am not even Jewish.
    The rise of anti-Semitism in Europe is frightening and it is not the right wing (Bunch of pathetic prats) but the left wing and Muslim immigrants who are the problem.
    Wished I had known about the protest, I would have been there.

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  73. SGA (983 comments) says:

    Southern Raiderat 4:39 pm

    So if someone defaced all the Maori Party billboards with Nigger that would be okay?

    Of course not. Nor would it be ok to assume that ACT or National must be responsible.

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  74. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Okay UT. So if someone defaced all the Maori Party billboards with Nigger that would be okay?

    No, it wouldn’t. My point was that sometimes people get a bit too precious about criticism of Jewish people, not that defacing Key’s image with the word Jew and a swastika is a good thing.

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  75. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Think about your sentence, Ugly. How would it sound if you replaced the word ‘Jewish’ with Maori, black or white?

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  76. lurcher1948 (151 comments) says:

    We voters are confused lot, yesterday there was a picture of key as a rasta money market dealer, and today key has a nazi sign on his billboard.confusing,is national the national socialists,are the nazis so is this why they did a dawn raid on the big german because national are the national socialists ie the gestapo and how is a PM with jew in him running the gestapo for the FBI,who did a raid in NZ with nationals blessing so who do you vote for, NO ONE very confusing

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  77. adze (2,088 comments) says:

    @RRM

    Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. [..] They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you.
    They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
    Banksy

    [proceeds to make street art, re-arranging the world to put himself in front of you and making himself famous in the process, without even the permission of building owners]

    ;)

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  78. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    I’m going to go out on a limb here, lurcher, and assume that you are frequently confused.

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  79. duggie (26 comments) says:

    Wouldn’t a few well placed CCTV cameras eliminate this problem?

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  80. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    FFS Judith

    So by your logic someone wrote Jew over John Keys face because they wanted to celebrate his ethnicity?

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  81. OneTrack (2,979 comments) says:

    “It is disturbing that we have people in our community who hate Jews so much, they feel the need to do vandalism like this.”

    It is disturbing that we have lefties in our community who hate so much. fify

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  82. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    UT people should be criticised for what they do not who they are

    Call JK a banker or a right wing bastard. Being Jewish does not come into it

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  83. OneTrack (2,979 comments) says:

    daniel carter – “Either this graffiti came from an idiot anti Semite, a very stoopid labour supporter …”

    or a Green Party member. They have form.

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  84. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    Southern Raider (1,634 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I’m not stupid enough to try and predict what these vandals think when they are doing something, you on the other hand seem to know a lot about their motivations and why they do things – you haven’t been out defacing billboards have you?

    So, now that we are getting this sort of thing in New Zealand, what country do you think you’ll move to next?

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  85. Scott1 (506 comments) says:

    Actually it would still be a bit offensive if a person was to write INDIAN on an Indian person’s bill board or BLACK on a black persons bill board. It implies they want people to take their race into account as a key factor. The only race that would not apply to would be Maori in a Maori seat, for obvious reasons.

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  86. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Judith that’s a big fucken assumption. Just because I’m Jewish you think I’ve jumped off a boat recently

    My family has been here since the 1840s

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  87. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    UT people should be criticised for what they do not who they are

    I agree. The thing is that when you associate with a religious group you are implicitly endorsing the actions of that group. The honourable members of the group effectively provide cover for the dishonourable members.

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  88. Scott1 (506 comments) says:

    “idiot anti Semite, a very stoopid labour supporter or a devious right winger ”

    Serious odds are more like
    96%, 1%, 3%
    and my 96% includes youth idiots who don’t really have much of an idea what the Nazi were but know it is offensive.

    False flag operations really are not that common and it is safer to just wait for the real idiots to do it themselves.
    Even the Reichstag fire itself was probably actually useful idiot communists.

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  89. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ Southern Raider (1,635 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    WOW have you ever got a big hang up. How the hell would I know you are jewish? I think you are getting just a bit too emotionally involved here sweetie. Besides aren’t you the one who was making assumptions about what I was and wasn’t just a while back? Hypocritical much?

    Everyone came to New Zealand ducky, there were no humans evolved here – we are all free to leave anytime we like – considering you seem to find it so damn horrible – and are SO SO SO hung up on the word Jew – the option is there for you to take.

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  90. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    Big super moon tonight.

    Lots of strong light – great for checking you’ve got your spelling right! :P

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  91. OneTrack (2,979 comments) says:

    Scott1 – What would be the percentage of members of InternetHitlerYouth, especially on the way home from one of the rallys?

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  92. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Think about your sentence, Ugly. How would it sound if you replaced the word ‘Jewish’ with Maori, black or white?

    It would sound stupid. The reason it would sound stupid is the groups you mention don’t have a serious PR machine which tells the world that criticism of the group is not politically correct.

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  93. Nostradamus (3,295 comments) says:

    Judith:

    Sorry, I think you might be in the wrong blog – those would require the reader to have a sense of humour, a taste in art, and the ability to get ‘over themselves’. Of course vandalism is serious, but once its done, it is okay to laugh – unless you are worried about something. :-)

    Right – let’s take your logic for a test-drive:

    1. Let’s assume (charitably) that you have a sense of humour, a taste in art and the ability to ‘get over yourself’.
    2. Let’s invite you to post your personal address so we can come over and spray-paint your front-facing walls with offensive slogans.
    3. Then, once it’s done, let’s all laugh about it – unless you’re worried about something.
    4. And, of course, as it’s your private property, you’ll be responsible for fixing the damage at your own cost.

    Can you see the problem in what you said earlier?

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  94. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Left wing supporters tend to be a tad retarded. If they had a complete brain they’d support National! :)

    No point getting excited about it…… They’ll be so busy defacing election hoardings they’ll forget it’s September 20th ! :)

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  95. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ Nostradamus (2,968 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Not at all Nostradamus because you have selectively taken my wording out of context. I was referring to itstricky’s posts which contained some very funny pictures of billboards, with things such as ‘twerking for New zealand’. Whilst it is vandalism, as I acknowledged, it is not offensive – unless you walk round with a carrot up your date and are constantly up tight, like SR.

    If you want to make a point – put it in context, and then it would be relevant.

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  96. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Um, Ugly, there is a reason why criticism of ethnic groups is not politically correct. It’s because it’s racist.

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  97. Nostradamus (3,295 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    Don’t confuse them – Young Labour were convinced it’s 20 November!

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  98. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Bollocks Judith. Deep down in your deepest heart of hearts you’re just another grotty little Labour Party apparatchik! :)

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  99. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The malign influence of the German fraudster is felt around the country. Deport the fat man!

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  100. Other_Andy (2,572 comments) says:

    Very telling what our ‘independent’ and ‘unbiased’ MSM reports on.

    The Green-Mana-Marxist rent-a-mob of 200 with their ‘hangers-on’ stages its weekly anti-whatever is the flavour of the week protest screaming hate and the mathematical challenged MSM proclaims thousands are marching and splashes it all over the front page and on the ‘news’!

    In the meantime a thousand people turn up for an unpublished support Israel protest and not a squeak from the MSM.

    Their agenda driven reporting has no credibility what so ever.

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  101. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    Manolo (13,457 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
    Deport the fat man!

    Deport all fat men! :P Nothing but a cost to our health budget!

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  102. Nostradamus (3,295 comments) says:

    Judith:

    If you want to make a point – put it in context, and then it would be relevant.

    The focus of my comment was on vandalism and the private property cost. But, according to you, so it seems, that’s all irrelevant as long as the defaced sign appeals to your sense of humour.

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  103. box345 (40 comments) says:

    I’m stepping out of my usual character to post this, because I know you will downvote it.

    But could you actually stop and think about it before you do downvote.

    SPOT the DIFFERENCE

    A. The vandalism depicted to begin this thread.

    B. The repeated likenesses between Dotcom and Hitler, that we see daily on WhaleOil.

    Seems to me there is no difference. Except maybe the medium on which the vandalism is posted. One medium is coreflute. The other medium is cyber-something. But the sentiment is identical. And there is huge hypocrisy at play here.

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  104. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Still if you donned your fishnets and your big boots and gunned your shitter Holden down to Wainui I could be convinced left is right! :)

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  105. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    Other_Andy (2,389 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    That’s one of the reasons I left Europe for New Zealand and I am not even Jewish.

    God dammit! What’s wrong with other countries, why New Zealand?

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  106. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    Other_Andy (2,390 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    In the meantime a thousand people turn up for an unpublished support Israel protest and not a squeak from the MSM.

    …or Google. I must say the MSM seems to be doing a grand job of covering this up. Perhaps you could help, Andy, how about posting a link to anything mentioning or showing this demonstration for Israel.

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  107. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Yaweh. If the lefties keep going on this anti Semitic tack I might consider getting my foreskin amputated…. Oi Vey! :)

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  108. Nostradamus (3,295 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    I might consider getting my foreskin amputated

    That’s taking solidarity in (comrade) arms to an extreme(ly) (short) length, isn’t it?

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  109. Other_Andy (2,572 comments) says:

    Yoza says at 5:32 pm

    Oh there you are Yoza.
    Tired from trolling through the Stormfront website finding made-up slanderous Nazi cra@p?
    Jewish sniper kills 13 Palestinian babies!

    Here is the protest you illiterate lazy slob.
    http://www.jwire.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Auckland1.jpg

    Now crawl back under your stone.

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  110. jackinabox (781 comments) says:

    “Even the Reichstag fire itself was probably actually useful idiot communists.”

    Maybe John Key should pass an Enabling Act?

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  111. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    If it means I get to shaft Judith it may be an inch or two of great value Nostradamus! :)

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  112. big bruv (13,702 comments) says:

    Judith

    I would be happy for all fat men to be deported just as long as we did the same with fat chicks.

    Mind you, given that most kiwi chicks are born with massive backsides and no tits that would mean a country with very few women. Now, D4J might like that idea but upon further reflection it might be better if we just let the fatties of both sexes stay.

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  113. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

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  114. dad4justice (8,062 comments) says:

    What do you mean bigot blouse?

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  115. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    @JB, you must be desperate, mate. Pour yourself another full glass of G&T.

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  116. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

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  117. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    Just a recap

    Other_Andy (2,391 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Very telling what our ‘independent’ and ‘unbiased’ MSM reports on.

    In the meantime a thousand people turn up for an unpublished support Israel protest and not a squeak from the MSM.

    A thousand you say?

    Yoza (1,588 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Perhaps you could help, Andy, how about posting a link to anything mentioning or showing this demonstration for Israel.

    Other_Andy (2,391 comments) says:

    August 10th, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Here is the protest you illiterate lazy slob.
    http://www.jwire.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Auckland1.jpg

    Now crawl back under your stone.

    Why not post the story in which the jpg was used. Was it because of this caption:

    Around 500 turned up in Auckland to identify with Israel. Speakers at the rally held in the Queen Elizabeth Square in the city’s CBD included members of the Jewish, Maori and Christian communities.

    When looking for material to reinforce your exaggerations, wouldn’t it be more appropriate to find something that comes closer to verifying the figures you claim?

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  118. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Um, Ugly, there is a reason why criticism of ethnic groups is not politically correct. It’s because it’s racist.

    You’re seriously suggesting that when people use the term “Jew” as a slur it is because of their genes, rather than because of their behaviour? Claiming to be Jewish typically identifies a religion rather than ethnicity.

    “All of this language … reflects and furthers the goals of the Anti-Defamation League, which has a stated goal of creating an environment where opposing the State of Israel is considered “anti-Semitism,” and “anti-Semitism” is a “hate crime” punishable by law.”
    http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm

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  119. nasska (11,153 comments) says:

    UglyTruth

    Isn’t there a requirement for a maternal Jewish bloodline before one is recognised as a Jew?

    If so it is both a race & a religion.

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  120. Dean Papa (787 comments) says:

    Is Andy Pandy not a Kiwi?

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  121. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    My Mummy had dark hair and a big nose.

    Since my last comment I’ve looked down and noticed my foreskin is absent.

    Doe’s this mean I’m a Jew?

    If so why am I so fucking poor? :)

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  122. nasska (11,153 comments) says:

    One of the downsides of living in Wainuiomata JB….probably one of the cuzzies broke in & nicked it when you weren’t watching. :)

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  123. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    No wonder the Videos don’t exist… Freddy doesn’t exist! :)

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  124. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    Dean Papa (766 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Is Andy Pandy not a Kiwi?

    Apparently he fled here to escape the persecution of Jews raging through Europe, …but he’s not Jewish.

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  125. daniel carter (32 comments) says:

    All those who accuse graffiti artists of being cowardly – I hope you’re not posting under a pseudonym.

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  126. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    I’ll move to Eke tomorrow…..where there are no bad guys nasska! :)

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  127. Zapper (1,017 comments) says:

    “Judith (7,868 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Sorry, but Jew is not a bad word. John Key has himself talked about his heritage. Calling him a jew is being realistic. Placing a swastika under it is the offensive part. That has the nasty connotation. ”

    Jew is just realistic Judith?

    What if a Maori Party logo was defaced with “Black c**ts”? Offensive because of the cussing but nothing racist there, just realism?

    We know you don’t like Mr Key for your own irrational reasons but you are finding new and interesting ways to be a hypocrite

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  128. Dean Papa (787 comments) says:

    How are these nutjobs allowed into the country? As a born and bred Kiwi I’m actually offended that he was allowed in.

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  129. Other_Andy (2,572 comments) says:

    Other_Andy (2,391 comments) says at 5:27 pm

    Take part of this post back.
    Protest is on TV1

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  130. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Yoza

    Andy’s estimation was in the ballpark.

    If it was a left wing rally the media would have rounded up 500 to 5000

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  131. jackinabox (781 comments) says:

    When Mossad agents were caught breaking the law in NZ their colleagues attacked a Jewish cemetery……………..

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  132. Other_Andy (2,572 comments) says:

    Dean Papa (767 comments) says at 6:15 pm

    Oh look, Papa and Yoza, our two local Hamas supporters have found each other.
    You guys should dress up in black meet up, and plot how you can deports all those who don’t like your fascist ideas.
    Get all those pesky Jews out first.
    Easy for you two lying (Sorry, ‘creative with the truth’) creeps, the Jews here don’t carry guns like those in Israel.
    Then you can round up all those who disagree with your agenda.
    You know what?
    Yoza can put the manifesto on his favourite website, Stormfront.org, the same one he gets his ‘news’ from.

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  133. jackinabox (781 comments) says:

    When John Key was caught being a hypocrite…….

    “Monday Jul 5, 2010

    Prime Minister John Key says he doesn’t want New Zealanders to become tenants in their own country as foreign companies seek to buy up farms, and the Government may look at law changes.”

    ……..his supporters attacked his hoardings.

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  134. Inthisdress (189 comments) says:

    I think it’s a KDC -fan taking the piss out of the ‘right’s’ hysteria about KDC being a nazi.

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  135. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Isn’t there a requirement for a maternal Jewish bloodline before one is recognised as a Jew?

    According to Rabbinical halacha, yes. But according to the books of Moses the paternal bloodline was the important one.

    Also, one of the Jewish traditions relates that the prophet Jeremiah was a descendants of Rahab (a Canaanite woman).

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  136. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    Deep breaths there Andy.

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  137. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    I’ll say it again. UglyTruth is a Jew hater, and I’m adding to that list Yowza and Dean papa. No wonder none of them have the guts to post under their own names. Like all Jew hating cowardly filth, they would not dare.

    Ugly will try as usual to defend his racist hatred by claiming some whackjob fringe nutter agrses with him…oh wait, he already has with the Jew hating conspiracy web site rense.com.

    Ugly’s Nazi fantasies about who is and is not a real Jew is just a cover for his hatred. He knows he cannot come right out and say what he thinks, so he trolls the net for fringe ideas about Jews to use as a cover.

    But make no mistake, he might as well be wearing an SS uniform.

    One of the standard tactics of Jew hating racists is downplaying anti-Semitism, as Yowza, Ugly and Dean do, downplaying the reality of the growing anti-Semitism in Europe, as Yowza, Ugly and Dean do.

    A few years back, in trying to understand the mindset of these “people” I spent a lot of time trawling through the neo-Nazi web site Stormfront.com, and here is what is telling. You will find them using exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same arguments and excuses and conspiracy theories as Ugly, Yowza and Dean.

    If it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, it’s a Nazi.

    Ugly, Dean and Yowza are Nazi Jew haters, and the faster they are hounded off of KB the better. They are scum, and do not deserve to use KB as a platform for their racist hatred.

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  138. Other_Andy (2,572 comments) says:

    Dean Papa says at 6:15 pm

    “How are these nutjobs allowed into the country? As a born and bred Kiwi I’m actually offended that he was allowed in.”

    And it’s getting worse Dean. I have ‘defiled’ one of the local women as well.
    Oh noes!
    Have I now messed up your idea of the New Zealand master race?

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  139. mikemikemikemike (323 comments) says:

    God you’re a hypocrite, you’ve got people on here calling an MP a whore (and worse) and who hate Maori just because they are Native.

    You support people with views as extreme as these – but its OK by you because they vote blue.

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  140. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    I’ll say it again. UglyTruth is a Jew hater, and I’m adding to that list Yowza and Dean papa.

    Well, it looks like you’ve already lost the argument on hyprocrisy, and proving slander isn’t that big a step since you have previously been unable to post any of my words in support of your accusation.

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  141. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    ShawnLH (3,998 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    One of the standard tactics of Jew hating racists is downplaying anti-Semitism, as Yowza and Dean do, downplaying the reality of the growing anti-Semitism in Europe, as Yowza and Dean do.

    A few years back, in trying to understand the miondset of these “people” I spent a lot of time trawling through the neo-Nazi web site Stormfront.com, and here is what is telling. You will find them using exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same arguments and excuses and conspiracy theories as Ugly, Yowza and Dean.

    If it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi, and quacks like a Nazi, it’s a Nazi.

    Ugly, Dean and Yowza are Nazi Jew haters, and the faster they are hounded off of KB the better. They are scum, and do not deserve to use KB as a platform for their racist hatred.

    Face it, Shawn, you and reality have the most tenuous of connections.

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  142. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    Face it Yowza, your a Jew hating racist.

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  143. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “you have previously been unable to post any of my words in support of your accusation.”

    Every post you make on “Zionists” and who is or is not a “real Jew” supports my accusation Ugly.

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  144. Than (450 comments) says:

    I’m sorry, I can’t believe that any of National’s political opponents would be behind this. It would be totally counter-productive. It is either the work of fringe extremists or of people trying to smear National’s opponents.

    Oh, bullshit. Never attribute to conspiracy what can be explained by stupidity.

    This wasn’t some planned “false flag” action by National supporters. By far the most likely culprits are people like those in the video chanting “fuck John Key”. Young left-wing activists, probably not formally members or associated with any oppositon party, but sharing their views.

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  145. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Every post you make on “Zionists” and who is or is not a “real Jew” supports my accusation Ugly.

    How does this repost of my 3:25 support your accusation that I am a “Jew hater”?

    Attacking Key on these issues achieves nothing other than to draw attention away from the real problem. The problem is bigger than Key or the National party, and relates to the collaboration between the Zionists and the Nazis in the establishment of the Zionist state in Palestine.

    http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman

    It would be wishful thinking if it could be stated that the leaders of the Zionist movement sat back and ignored the plight of their dying brothers and sisters. Not only did they publicly refuse to assist in their rescue, but they actively participated with Hitler and the Nazi regime. Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letter for its name, “Tel Aviv”, while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party (Nazi) member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a “metaphysical absurdity”. Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich. In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical underground “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”, better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang…

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  146. Yoza (1,777 comments) says:

    ShawnLH (4,000 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Face it Yowza, your a Jew hating racist

    No, Shawn. The reality is you are unable to accept that those you are critical of the murderous excesses of the Israeli security apparatus have a valid point. As you are incapable of defending Israel’s crimes you resort to denigrating its critics with insults and slander.

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  147. SGA (983 comments) says:

    Other_Andy at 6:52 pm

    And it’s getting worse Dean. I have ‘defiled’ one of the local women as well.

    Before or after you got through the airport?

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  148. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “Dean Papa” was caught out lying about Israel today. He tried to cover this by defining lying as being “creative with the criteria.”

    Yeah right.

    If the arguments of the anti-Israel Jew haters are so just and strong, then why the need to lie?

    And what kind of people make up lies about Jews?

    Nazis do.

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  149. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Shawn
    For my money, Dean and Yoza are not anti-semites. Ugly sort of is, in a confused way. The only out and out Jew hater on Kiwiblog is Reid.

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  150. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “No, Shawn. The reality is you are unable to accept that those you are critical of the murderous excesses of the Israeli security apparatus have a valid point. ”

    The reality you are unable to accept is that your concern for “murderous excesses” is not credible when you have nothing to say about ISIS, which has committed real murderous crimes. That fact proves that you don’t care about human life and justice, you only trot this “concern” out when it comes to Israel.

    That is thinly disguised Jew hatred.

    And the fact is that there are other critics of Israel here, such as Gulag and Mikenmild, that I DON’T accuse of being Jew haters, because while I disagree with them, their criticisms are at least attempts at reasonable critique, and are balanced with equal concerns for HAMAS’s crimes., unlike your’s and Ugly’s and Dean’s.

    It is the reasonableness of the critiques that are the giveaway. Your’s are not reasonable, not by a long shot. And you know it.

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  151. jackinabox (781 comments) says:

    And what kind of people make up lies about Jews?

    “NO NEED TO MAKE STUFF UP, THE TRUTH IS SUFFICIENT.”

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  152. Crusader (302 comments) says:

    Judith (7,876 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    Sorry, I think you might be in the wrong blog – those would require the reader to have a sense of humour, a taste in art, and the ability to get ‘over themselves’. Of course vandalism is serious, but once its done, it is okay to laugh – unless you are worried about something. :-)

    How would you feel about laughing about the N word being scrawled on a dark-skinned candidate’s bill board? Disgusted? Outraged? Or amused?
    How do you feel about racial slurs, Judith?
    That’s what this is about. Not about “clever graffiti”.
    This is not Banksy.

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  153. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Ugly sort of is, in a confused way.

    Care to elaborate on that mikenmild? It’s a fairly serious accusation IMO.

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  154. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Yoza the reality is your unable to accept that the information your force feed from left wing sites is all bullshit.

    There is lots of non-Israeli sources about
    – Hamas blowing up buildings in Gaza themselves
    – Pallywood videos
    – rockets fired from hospitals and schools
    – rockets misfired into hospitals and schools
    – billions of western aid used to construct terror tunnels and buy weapons
    – public executions of Gazians who don’t share the Hamas dream

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  155. daniel carter (32 comments) says:

    there is no way of knowing for sure, but who is benefiting from this graffiti and you will probably have your answer

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  156. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Sure, Ugly. You tend to go along with Reid’s nonsense about the ‘real Jews’ and fewnce around with notions of Israel beingb an illegitimate state. I think your views, like Reid’s, stem from a deep confusion about religion.

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  157. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    billions of western aid used to construct terror tunnels and buy weapons

    Southern Raider, do you have any explanation for the reported surprise of the Zionist state re the existence of the “terror tunnels”, given the presence of around 20 companies in Israel that do ground penetrating radar and the state’s knowledge of active tunnel in the Lebanon since 2010?

    Link

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  158. hj (6,836 comments) says:

    Mr Peters is defending himself against accusations of racism after a questionable joke about Chinese names.

    As he was talking about two cases of foreign ownership of New Zealand land, Mr Peters told those attending the party’s campaign launch in west Auckland that “as they say in Beijing, two Wongs don’t make a White”.

    Mr Peters told media afterwards that it wasn’t racist.

    “It’s called humour. I know that in Beijing they think it’s funny, and so do I,” he said.

    When asked why it was funny, he said: “I thought you might pick up the nuance of it quicker”.

    “I’m sorry, if you haven’t got a (sense of) humour, I don’t think I can explain that to you.”

    It wasn’t Mr Peters’ only attempt at a joke with an Asian link: he also described Prime Minister John Key as “Mr Spray and Walk Away”. :lol:

    It was a reference to a well known local television advertisement for a moss removal product featuring an Asian presenter.

    However, many of his barbs about foreign influences in New Zealand were aimed at Australians, particularly in regards to Australian-owned banks, insurance companies and media organisations.

    Mr Peters also lampooned National’s campaign strategist Steven Joyce after a television debate two weekends ago with Labour’s Grant Robertson which turned into a shouting match, saying his strategy was to “open your mouth and let the wind blow your tongue around”.

    Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Peters-promises-to-widen-KiwiSaver/tabid/1607/articleID/356247/Default.aspx#ixzz39yNZmLRO
    The reporter was upset :mad:

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  159. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    Crusader (282 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    You are another idiot plonker that can’t read properly. That post you’ve quoted was in reference to a number of photos that Itstricky had posted. I was commenting on some of them, not the one at the top of this thread. As I said, vandalism was not good, but some of those photos were quite funny, in particular the one about twerking – mind you, I’m not surprised you can’t see it – it would require a sense of humour and enough brains to work out taking a post out of context will never give you the right meaning.

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  160. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Sure, Ugly. You tend to go along with Reid’s nonsense about the ‘real Jews’

    You mean the verse from the book of Revelation that talks about false Jews? The book itself reaffirms many of the themes of Judaism so quoting from it hardly supports the idea of hatred of anything Jewish.

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  161. adze (2,088 comments) says:

    Just looking at DPF’s update: I wonder if it is was those National Front idiots. I don’t know what they hope to achieve other than make themselves look worse than they look already…

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  162. Duxton (633 comments) says:

    “Key is not Jewish, in the religious sense. Yes he has Jewish bloodline through his mother, but he is not religious.”

    So f*@!ing what if he is Jewish? Even if he is, this sort of behaviour is completely unacceptable in a Western democracy, which purports to allow freedom of religious belief.

    And David, I know you won’t have meant to come across this way, but your comment could be taken to imply that such criticism would be okay as long as the target is actually Jewish. It isn’t: never has been, ain’t now, and never will be – at least as long as I have breath in my body. And if it ever becomes acceptable, I hope that I’m not around to see it.

    The pricks whole did this need to be named and shamed.

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  163. Duxton (633 comments) says:

    And BTW, those trolling arseholes above (anal milkenmild, Judith the Troll, etc) who are trying to divert the issue by ranting about Jewish financiers, Zionism, etc, need to take a look at themselves.

    Absolute shitheads!

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  164. Scott1 (506 comments) says:

    One track,
    Is there an internet hitler youth? Oh you mean Dotcom right?

    Dot com could indeed be drawing some support form the “stupid kids” section of the electorate so that is possible although it wont be organized in that case – it will be more like a group of 2-5 kids who had too much alcohol that night and who don’t like Key. I’d probably tend towards it being an actual national front person, or sympathiser considering those other national front posters.

    maybe 70-20-10 (for national front type people – stupid kids not associated with anyone like NF – stupid kids associated with dot com in some way) since I’m putting percentages on it.

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  165. EAD (943 comments) says:

    I do wonder about the legitimacy of the second billboard and to me it appears like a classic psyops operation.

    I know a number of people who are very uncomfortable with National’s radical social engineering and don’t like the idea of changing the flag for the sake of changing the flag. If you were a nationalfront member, knowing how hated your organisation was, why would you put up a poster opposing this change knowing that you repulse people and rather than help your cause, would actually damage it?

    Most people who oppose the current version of National, like myself, oppose them for their policies – not because I’m “anti-semitic” or a “storm front member” or support “Kim Dotcom”!!!

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  166. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “You mean the verse from the book of Revelation that talks about false Jews? ”

    The book of Revelation was written almost two thousand years before the birth of Zionism, so it cannot possibly be speaking about that or the modern state of Israel.

    Moreover, unlike UglyNazi, I have studied that book and the Bible as a whole at an academic level, and UglyNazi has no clue at all about the historical context of that passage and what it is referring to. On top of that, UglyNazi is on record as dismissing large parts of the New Testament, so why is he referring to it now?

    Because he will use any excuse to justify his Jew hatred, no matter how ignorant or hypocritical.

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  167. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    Yowza’s friends. Proof that Yowza does not really care about war crimes.

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  168. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    “You mean the verse from the book of Revelation that talks about false Jews? ”

    The book of Revelation was written almost two thousand years before the birth of Zionism, so it cannot possibly be speaking about that or the modern state of Israel.

    Yes, quite. But what about your false accusation that I hate Jews? Where is your comment on my 3:25?

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  169. masterman (19 comments) says:

    PaulL
    what I detest about JK and what he stands for is the self-interest of all sorts, the concentration on the short term, the obsession with secrecy, the incapacity to admit error, the inability to tell the truth, the pursuit of policies that divide the nation into haves and have nots, the protection of elites at the cost of the most vulnerable in our society, corporate welfare, the development of a new feudal system, taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich, the destruction of our environment, the selling of our state assets, to name but a few.

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  170. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “But what about your false accusation that I hate Jews?”

    It’s not false. You try to cover it up by using pseudo-scholarship about who is or is not a real Jew, but the fact is that your definitions, which have no factual basis, end up including the vast majority of Jews.

    When you use lies and whackjob pseudo-scholars to strip most Jews of their identity then that is Jew hatred.

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  171. itstricky (1,770 comments) says:

    Big super moon tonight.

    Lots of strong light – great for checking you’ve got your spelling right

    11 down votes? You’re right – some people have no sense of humor.

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  172. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    ” to me it appears like a classic psyops operation.”

    Yes EAD, it would look like that to someone wearing a tin foil hat.

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  173. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    Why is Yowza not concerned with this? Take a guess.

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  174. itstricky (1,770 comments) says:

    And BTW, those trolling arseholes above (anal milkenmild, Judith the Troll, etc) who are trying to divert the issue by ranting about Jewish financiers, Zionism, etc, need to take a look at themselves.

    Absolute shitheads!

    Or, instead of being trolls, they could just be people who disagree with you. Much the same as:

    Griff (6,899 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Cowardly
    redspeak =
    I dont agree with their politics.

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  175. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ itstricky (1,612 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    me thinks they protest too much – especially ol’ Duxton up there.

    To me, some of the irrational raving on here makes me wonder whether someone who wanted to make an issue of it, is actually the perpetrator. Great way of getting some sympathy.

    But you are right, some people think a national party twerking for New Zealand is not funny – sad lot indeed.

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  176. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    “But what about your false accusation that I hate Jews?”

    It’s not false.

    You said that “Every post you make on “Zionists” and who is or is not a “real Jew” supports my accusation Ugly.”

    And yet you have been unable to show any evidence that my 3:25, whoch is about Zionists, supports your accusation.

    I’ve been saying that you are a liar for ages.
    Now I’m thinking that you are simply unable to tell the truth about Zionism because of it’s link to Christianity (eg the Scofield Bible) and to Satanism (eg Revelation 3:9)

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  177. EAD (943 comments) says:

    Shawn @ 8.20am – you really are a dork sometimes

    It is one of the oldest tactics in the books. Have your opponents associated with an hated organisation (the tactic is called guilt by association), ergo all the people who oppose you must be a Nazi/national front/communist (delete as appropiate)

    I mean even today over in the UK, Labour & Tory MPS are kicking up a stink because a UKIP member said that Hitler was a powerful orator. The fact is Hitler was a powerful orator but it doesn’t mean people who think he was a great public speaker, Nazis!!! Likewise, my ancestors fought under the Southern Cross – that doesn’t make me a National Front supporter.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720860/Hitler-achieved-great-deal-Ukip-MEP-sparks-anger-tells-youth-wing-copy-Nazi-leader.html

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  178. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “And yet you have been unable to show any evidence that my 3:25, whoch is about Zionists, supports your accusation.”

    Your definition of Zionists means most Jews. The fact that you can trot out a tiny fringe group does not change the fact that your accusations against Zionists, which are themselves false, means most Jews.

    So I HAVE given evidence; Your own insane Nazi style theories about “Zionists”, which would be very welcome on the web site Stormfront.com.

    Your a gutless Jew hating Nazi who hides behind lies about the nature of Zionism.

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  179. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “Shawn @ 8.20am – you really are a dork sometimes”

    I’m not the one wearing the tin foil hat.

    “It is one of the oldest tactics in the books. Have your opponents associated with an hated organisation (the tactic is called guilt by association),”

    One of the oldest tactics in the book is for people who actually ARE associated with a hateful organization to claim that it’s really just a smear tactic from their opponents.

    This is called covering your ass when you have been caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Or in this case, caught being a Nazi Jew hater.

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  180. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Your definition of Zionists means most Jews.

    No, it doesn’t, Shawn. It’s about politics, not religion or ethnicity.

    In my 3:25, do you think that the Zionists that I am speaking of are “most Jews”?

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  181. EAD (943 comments) says:

    sorry buddy – I’ll leave your delusions to yourself. I’ve got better things to do then debate with somebody who can’t debate above the level of a cultural marxist imbecile. Saul Alinksy would be proud of you.

    Goodnight

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  182. stephieboy (2,678 comments) says:

    Ugly Truth,

    Why do you , Reid and coy believe in such weird stuff .?

    Your contortionist approach to biblical exegesis is inredibly. bizarre.Are you a foundation member of the Neo rosicrucians by chance.?

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  183. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism in the 21st Century: Why Muslim anti-Zionism is really anti-Semitism.

    “The historic roots of the continual convergence between Muslim-Arab anti-Zionism and classical European antisemitism can already be found in the 1930s with the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as well as in the de facto alliance between German Nazism and Haj Amin el-Husseini, the undisputed leader of Palestinian Arab nationalism. Antisemitism was an important, even vital, cement of such ideological and political alliances.4 It was also no accident that during the 1950s, in Nasser’s Egypt, a number of German Nazi advisers on the “Jewish Question” not only found a refuge from justice but helped to organize a large-scale “anti-Zionist” propaganda campaign that reached out across Europe, Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Middle East.5 The common antisemitic assumption behind this massive indoctrination program led by Egypt was the notion that Israel, Zionism and the Jewish people per se represented a single poisonous and deadly root of a Jewish plan for world-domination. The branches of this global Mafia allegedly extend from Jerusalem and New York to the farthest corners of the earth. This “anti-Zionist” political warfare against Israel has been inextricably linked by its Muslim-Arab protagonists to the struggle of the Prophet Muhammad against the Jews in the Arabian Peninsula – a conflict that ended in their expulsion more than 1300 years ago.6

    The Six Day War of 1967 and the fall of Arab East Jerusalem into Israeli hands exacerbated still further the Islamist militancy of the old-new antisemitic “anti-Zionism.” Koranic vituperations against the “treacherous,” perfidious Jews were now widely quoted, medieval polemical tracts against Judaism and the Jews were dutifully dug out; while the antisemitic writings of authors like the martyred ideologue of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Sayyid Qutb (executed by Nasser’s regime in 1966) were widely circulated. The scale of the 1967 debacle of the Arab States with its accompanying sense of national humiliation, loss of Arab honor and the occupation by Israel of what was deemed to be “Islamic territory,” sharpened and intensified the pre-existing demonology of Zionism. Increasingly, the Jewish State was seen as a twentieth-century reincarnation of the cunning and insidious “spirit of Judaism.”7 Khomeini’s revolution in Shi’ite Iran in 1979 added an even more radical element to this Islamist boiling-pot of theological-political anti-Semitism. “Khomeinism” combined a specifically Shi’ite Iranian horror of Jews as ritually “unclean” (najas) with Islamic religious hostility to them as an ancient foe of Islam. This was superimposed on a demonizing misperception of a non-existent “American-Israel satanic conspiracy” to destroy Iran. From Khomeini to Ahmadinejad and Ali Khamenei, Iranian Islamic “anti-Zionism” (in which the U.S. is the “great Satan” and Israel figures as the “little Satan”) continues to attribute all evils in the world to boundless Jewish deviousness and an incessant Zionist craving for “global domination.”

    This antisemitic and anti-Zionist ideology motivates not only Iran but the Lebanese Shi’ite Hezbollah as well as the Sunni Muslim Hamas (an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood) in Gaza. It is important to note that neither Iran, Hezbollah nor Hamas shrink from an openly genocidal, annihilationist demand for the total destruction of the State of Israel.9 Brazen and naked Holocaust denial, especially in Iran and in much of the contemporary Arab world (a point to which we shall return) is the other side of this radically antisemitic coin.”

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/isdf/text/wistrich.html

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  184. Reid (16,224 comments) says:

    Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism in the 21st Century: Why Muslim anti-Zionism is really anti-Semitism.

    …blah blah blah…

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/isdf/text/wistrich.html

    Which of course is the equivalent of citing Fox News’ Sean Hannity as the definitive source of truth in Operation Protective Shield or whatever bullshit name they came up with this time…

    Is ANY cwiticism of Israel allowed, or is that verbotten, on grounds known only to those who don’t allow it?

    Is the accusation of anti-semitism as practised in the 21st century a social engineering exercise?

    Is anyone allowed to ask that, or is that verbotten as well?

    Is the word verbotten anti-semitic?

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  185. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    It is important to note that neither Iran, Hezbollah nor Hamas shrink from an openly genocidal, annihilationist demand for the total destruction of the State of Israel.

    This statement is a contradiction in terms. The state of Israel is intangible, if it were to cease to exists the political system would be gone, but the land and the the people of Israel would remain.

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  186. pejhay (28 comments) says:

    Saw the one at the top of Ngaio Gorge today that had been sprayed “”Working For ‘HIS RICH MATES'”.

    None of the other 5 boards had been touched…

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  187. Reid (16,224 comments) says:

    It is important to note that neither Iran, Hezbollah nor Hamas shrink from an openly genocidal, annihilationist demand for the total destruction of the State of Israel.

    It’s also important to note Israel has 300+ nukes which is enough to reduce not just the ME but the entire world into irradiated ash therefore it’s unlikely anything those abovementioned states say they wish to achieve is likely to come to pass, isn’t it.

    It’s also important to note that if one possessed that power and the economic wealth which Israel possesses it would be much much much more secure if it didn’t throw its weight around so much but rather acted like a good neighbour, given its 300+ nukes give it invulnerability. And since really brainy people are always at the top of any state like Israel, it’s rather peculiar that seems never to have occurred to them, isn’t it.

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  188. questions (195 comments) says:

    Anyone seen John Ansell around recently?

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  189. Maggy Wassilieff (321 comments) says:

    Whale Oil has posted a video clip showing a burning effigy of John Key. The effigy’s face has been cut from one of National’s political hoardings.
    Today I saw a National hoarding with a space cut out just where John Key’s face would be.

    Location: Alongside SH2 between Mangapapa & Ormond, just out of Gisborne.

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  190. Unity (484 comments) says:

    There are some truly disgusting people in this country. It seems to be going to the dogs. Is it perhaps the way we are bringing our children up or something? There’s no respect any more.

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  191. hubbers (233 comments) says:

    “We have a gentleman here in Featherston with NAZI tattooed across his forehead. No idea if he knows what it really means…”

    I bet he beat the crap out of the tattoo artist when he looked in the mirror and saw that it said “ISAN”

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  192. ChardonnayGuy (1,197 comments) says:

    I might have guessed* that neofascist filth was behind this. How utterly disgusting. Regardless of one’s political affiliation, one should speak out and condemn this disgusting outburst of rancid anti-Semitic prejudice from these pondscum.

    *And actually, I did. Not that I take any great pleasure in encountering this verminous disfigurement. Quite the opposite.

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  193. Crusader (302 comments) says:

    Judith (7,898 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Crusader (282 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    You are another idiot plonker that can’t read properly. That post you’ve quoted was in reference to a number of photos that Itstricky had posted. I was commenting on some of them, not the one at the top of this thread. As I said, vandalism was not good, but some of those photos were quite funny, in particular the one about twerking – mind you, I’m not surprised you can’t see it – it would require a sense of humour and enough brains to work out taking a post out of context will never give you the right meaning.

    I quoted you verbatim Judith.
    Now you are telling me I misunderstood you. But you must have been well off topic. The topic was racist anti-Jewish defacement of billboards.
    1. If you keep better to topic (or explain yourself more clearly) these little misunderstandings won’t occur.
    2. Name-calling will not help your case. Have a deep breath before posting.

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