Clive Palmer does it again

August 20th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

Outspoken Australian tycoon has labelled the Chinese Government “mongrels” who “shoot their own people” in a televised tirade that was criticised by Canberra yesterday as “hugely damaging”.

The billionaire politician, who was elected to Parliament last year as leader of the Palmer United Party also called the Chinese “bastards” who “want to take over this country”.

The mining baron is locked in a long-running dispute over royalties and port operations with Hong Kong company Citic Pacific over its Sino Iron magnetite project, a partnership with China’s state-owned Metallurgical Group.

Politicians are best not to use their positions to favour their personal business interests.

Treasurer Joe Hockey said Palmer’s comments were hugely damaging and urged him to tone down his rhetoric against Australia’s largest trading partner. Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said she would tell the Chinese Embassy that “these views are not representative of the Australian Parliament and I don’t believe representative of the Australian people.” A spokesperson for the Chinese Embassy called Palmer’s comments “absurd” and “irresponsible”, the ABC reported.

And one of his MPs:

Palmer yesterday tried to play down his comments, tweeting that they were “not intended to refer to Chinese people” but to Citic. But he wasn’t helped by one of his senators, Jacqui Lambie, who said she strongly supported her leader’s comments about “China’s military capacity and threat to Australia”.

“If anybody thinks we should have a national security and defence policy that ignores the threat of a Chinese communist invasion, you’re delusional and got rocks in your head,” she said

The Tasmanian is a ex-Australian Defence Force non-commissioned officer. She said China is controlled by “an aggressive, anti-democratic, totalitarian government. We need to double the size and capacity of our military right now.”

I look forward to Australia declaring war on China :-)

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28 Responses to “Clive Palmer does it again”

  1. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    ‘Politicians are best not to use their positions to favour their personal business interests.’

    What about your husband’s business interests?

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  2. Sector 7g (240 comments) says:

    Clive Palmer is not a politician and that is why his popularity is growing.
    I wish more were like him and actually had the conviction to come out and say what they believe and what their plans are, rather than worry about how it may look to the voters, no matter how “politically incorrect” it may seem.

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  3. oldpark (286 comments) says:

    Didn’t the import commie Russel Norman from Green Taleban,or Robbiey hoody Party, do a lot worse, when he just about attacked a Chinese deputation, on our Parliamentary step.Yes Norman is an Australian import.

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  4. Ashley Schaeffer (472 comments) says:

    “these views are not representative of the Australian Parliament and I don’t believe representative of the Australian people.”

    Don’t bet on it.

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  5. Zapper (1,019 comments) says:

    Clive almost sounds like he belongs in NZ First or the NZ Labour Party

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  6. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    Keep up the good work Clive. Our economy is depending on it.

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  7. thePeoplesFlag (242 comments) says:

    Australia will sometime in the next 20 years have a higher GDP than Russia. I am not sure if that says something about how badly Putin runs Russia or about how the Pacific century is seeing the rise of Australia to middle power status.

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  8. Richard (844 comments) says:

    U know this guy should move to NZ and start funding NZF, the Greens and NZ labour- they all have a similar world view and the same willingness to use racism to further their own interests.

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  9. Redbaiter (8,551 comments) says:

    If you support a free and democratic society then you must support Clive Palmer’s right to freedom of expression.

    I wonder how those who tried to warn the allied countries of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party were treated before WWII.

    It is a matter of public record that way back in the late 1970s the Chinese Communist Party, thugs and totalitarian cowards who rule by terror and the gun, identified expansion into the west primarily as a means to grow their power.

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  10. Gulag1917 (878 comments) says:

    China will have a master plan for Australia. Some Chinese in Australia are advocates for mass migration from China to Australia.

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  11. SPC (5,595 comments) says:

    Call in Frank to help them build a bridge.

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  12. tom hunter (4,732 comments) says:

    Hmmmm. I already posted the following comment back on the Garner on Xenophobia post but it seems appropriate to put it up again.

    From the US Hoover Institute, The Cycles—or Stages—of Chinese History:

    The logic of strategy and all that comes from it, including the idea of the “balance of power,” for example, is inherently universal, transcendental, and timeless, but each clan, tribe, nation, and state has its own peculiar political constructs..

    The article describes the very Chinese concept of Tianxia:

    … it defines an ideal national and international system of ever-expanding concentric circles centered on a globally benevolent emperor, now Xi Jinping or more correctly perhaps, the seven-headed standing committee of the Politburo.

    The innermost circle of the Tianxia is formed by the rest of the Politburo and top Beijing officialdom, while its outermost circle comprises the Solomon Islands along with the twenty or so other utterly benighted “outer barbarian” countries that still do not recognize Beijing, preferring Taipei.

    And on and on, including all sovereign states, large and small, both already respectful (too few) and those still arrogantly vainglorious.

    The article points out that there’s nothing unique about a large country trying to do this to other nations – I’m sure our resident core of hard-line left-wingers will be quick to point to the USA – but the core of the article is the rather unique Chinese history of how to gradually convert more powerful societies into vassals that pay tribute, and the “tools” employed:

    The first barbarian-handling tool is normally translated as “corruption” in English translations, but perhaps “addiction,” or more fully “induced economic dependence” are more accurate: the originally self-sufficient Xiongnú were to be made economically dependent on Han-produced goods, starting with silk and woolen cloths instead of their own rude furs and felt. At first supplied free as unrequited tribute, these goods could still be supplied later on when the Han were stronger, but only in exchange for services rendered.

    Sounds familiar.

    The second tool of barbarian handling, is normally translated as “indoctrination”: the Xiongnú were to be persuaded to accept the authoritarian Confucian value system and the collectivistic behavioral norms of the Han,

    The much larger, longer-term benefit of the second tool was to undermine the entire political culture of the Xiongnú, and make them psychologically as well as economically dependent on the imperial radiance, which was willingly extended in brotherly fashion when the Han were weak, and then contemptuously withdrawn when the Xiongnú were reduced to vassalage.

    Of course the people who write articles like this love the idea of sophisticated, long-term strategies of which PhD thesis are made. The messy reality that often stuffs up such plans does not get much of a look-in, although in this case the authors point out that China may have moved too soon in starting to bully countries like Vietnam, Phillipines, India, etc.

    Still, it’s food for thought.

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  13. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    Neeews Flash August 20 2014

    Today’s New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows gain in support for National (48%, up 2%) now with a significant lead over a potential Labour/Greens alliance (39%, down 3%) exactly a month before the New Zealand Election on September 20.

    Support for Key’s Coalition partners has fallen slightly overall with the Maori Party 1% (down 0.5%), Act NZ (0.5%, unchanged) and United Future 0.5% (unchanged).

    Support for the Labour Party is 27.5% (down 2.5%), the Greens are down 0.5% to 11.5%. Potential ‘king-makers’ NZ First looks set to return to Parliament with 6.5% (up 1.5%) – the highest support for NZ First since September 2013, the Internet-Mana Party alliance is 2.5% (unchanged). Support for the Conservative Party of NZ is 1% (unchanged) and support for Independent/ Others is 1% (unchanged).

    http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5747-roy-morgan-new-zealand-voting-intention-august-20-2014-201408200128

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  14. EAD (1,001 comments) says:

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise” – Voltaire

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  15. stephieboy (2,794 comments) says:

    The Russian Enigma
    Broadcast
    1st October 1939

    ” I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest. It cannot be in accordance with the interest of the safety of Russia that Germany should plant itself upon the shores of the Black Sea, or that it should overrun the Balkan States and subjugate the Slavonic peoples of south eastern Europe, That would be contrary to the historic life-interests of Russia.”

    Winston Churchill.

    The Chinese Enigma .?

    Its national interests that go back way beyond the middle kingdom.!

    In other words its interests go beyond ideology and is steeped in its culture and history.

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  16. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    Redbaiter (7,836 comments) says:
    August 20th, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    If you support a free and democratic society then you must support Clive Palmer’s right to freedom of expression.

    I wonder how those who tried to warn the allied countries of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party were treated before WWII.
    ….
    I agree Red. Anti-racism means not only don’t be mean to other races, it means don’t associate another race with negative consequences.

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  17. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    It is very short sighted to base your economy on the extraction of resources as it is to base it on an immigration sugar rush.

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  18. Gulag1917 (878 comments) says:

    South East Asia especially Vietnam view Chinese expansionism with great concern. Indonesia forbids the speaking of Chinese, now does’t that say something.

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  19. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    Former Fonterra chairman Sir Henry van der Heyden has warned exporters to be wary of fraudulent behaviour when doing business in China, saying: “Don’t ever trust them … never.”

    Speaking at a business women’s conference in Tauranga, Sir Henry said doing business in China was full of surprises.

    “You’ve got to go and do business with your eyes wide open,” he said.

    Asked by an export manufacturer how small New Zealand businesses could ensure they were not ripped off when trading in China, Sir Henry said bad experiences should be used as opportunities to learn.

    “That’s my point about China. You will be full of surprises. Don’t ever trust them … never.”

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/business/258773/dont-trust-chinese-ex-fonterra-head

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  20. wreck1080 (3,884 comments) says:

    China has developed a hypersonic missile.

    They could take out Australian military defence forces before they even knew what was happening.

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  21. Gulag1917 (878 comments) says:

    Six missiles [one per major city] and the population of Australia is reduced to 20% of what it is now.

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  22. All_on_Red (1,581 comments) says:

    Palmer is for the high jump for misappropriating over 12 million from a Chinese back account for use in the election when the account was solely for Port operations. Also his resort development is in court with him likely to have to pay the purchasers about 30 million.
    He isn’t as rich as he makes out and will probably being going to jail.
    He is the worst type of Politician one could imagine driven by venal self interest and he is holding the Oz government to ransom. He’ll never be elected again but the good news is that if he’s convicted he’s out.

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  23. Ed Snack (1,849 comments) says:

    Back to Palmer, he’s an A-Grade blowhard, a man with some very serious legal problems on his horizon. Like, where did the $2.167M he used to fund his election campaign come from, his Chinese partners (which he’s busy slagging off) have a court case trying to find out why money they regard as dedicated to running the export port facilities somehow ended up with a PR agency for Palmer’s election campaign, plus the $10M more tha seems to have gone in Palmer’s businesses somewhere.

    His flagship company is making large losses as well, last years declared loss was $A106M, and it hasn’t made a profit for years. It will come crashing down sooner or later.

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  24. SPC (5,595 comments) says:

    So if Palmer is money laundering yuan via his port togs, this is the real life version of the House of Cards script?

    Nuclear power (uranium) problems to follow?

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  25. Ed Snack (1,849 comments) says:

    Hey, All_on_Red, snap !

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  26. Fentex (937 comments) says:
    The mining baron is locked in a long-running dispute over royalties and port operations with Hong Kong company Citic Pacific over its Sino Iron magnetite project, a partnership with China’s state-owned Metallurgical Group.

    Politicians are best not to use their positions to favour their personal business interests.

    But surely he isn’t when he resists the evil scourge of “state-owned” business? It seems a little incongruous to me for people who support divesting our state of business interests to argue resisting the expansion of a nominally communist, at least still centrally owned and dominated, business is bad because it’s just like any other competitive business and oughtn’t be stigmatised.

    It’s almost as if the concern is about what is best for making certain people money rather actual principles governing people.

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  27. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    He is the worst type of Politician one could imagine driven by venal self interest

    You mean like Jenny Shipley?

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  28. Bob R (1,363 comments) says:

    ****Chinese “bastards” who “want to take over this country”.***

    Crudely expressed, but isn’t that what what many consider China is essentially doing to by buying up in resource rich areas?

    http://www.iias.nl/the-newsletter/article/rethinking-chinas-land-grabs-chinese-land-investments-central-asia

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11130132

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