Cunliffe and Dotcom

August 11th, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Andrea Vance notes:

’s high point last week was stealing lines from the minor parties. He jumped on the anti-foreign investment band-wagon with NZ First and the Conservatives, promising to block the $70 million sale of Lochinver station to a Chinese firm. On the surface, the move was a headline-grabbing populist stunt but is unlikely to translate into more votes for the Left. It will, however, motivate National’s supporters. As a senior cabinet minister confided, Cunliffe is National’s second-biggest asset. After .

They are the gifts that keep on giving.

But talking of Dotcom, another Labour MP has gone against Labour head office instructions to not criticise the Dotcom’s pet parties (as they are progressive!) and 3 News reports:

“Political leaders who incite that, namely Dotcom, and political leaders who condone that, namely Laila Harre, have no place in our politics,” says Labour Party MP Clayton Cosgrove.

Good on Clayton for speaking out.

Meanwhile the hate Key campaign continues, with a video of John Key being burnt in effigy. Again, can you imagine the outcry if there was ever a video of Helen Clark being burnt in effigy? People would have demanded a Police investigation.

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18 Responses to “Cunliffe and Dotcom”

  1. berend (1,709 comments) says:

    What exactly do the lefties hate about John Key? Because he is winning and they are not? I wouldn’t vote for John Key, but I don’t hate him. I don’t mind to see him defeated, Labour/National have a hard time seeing much difference. Anyone who can offer some insight what particularly ticks them off? Maybe it is just because he has Jewish blood?

    PS: amendment: particular defacements may well be the work of some National Socialists (otherwise known as nazis/storm front, but let’s not call them right wingers as their policies are most in common with Labour), seeking for attention.

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  2. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    I never, ever, ever thought I’d say this – but Cosgrove is right. Good on him.

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  3. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Has any Green Party MP denounced these attacks?

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  4. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    “Has any Green Party MP denounced these attacks?”

    I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for them to do so.

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  5. spanish_tudor (80 comments) says:

    I doubt it – they’re too busy at Green Party HQ running ‘billboard vandalism’ workshops, or running off to Mitre 10 to pick up more spray paint….

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  6. Pete George (23,567 comments) says:

    What exactly do the lefties hate about John Key?

    It’s common in politics, especially on the fringes, for people to hate anyone they perceive to have different political views. It happens left versus perceived right, right versus perceived left, left versus left, left versus centre, right versus right and right versus centre.

    Tolerance of differences is commonly absent amongst political activists.

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  7. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Again, can you imagine the outcry if there was ever a video of Helen Clark being burnt in effigy?

    What, this coming from someone whose blog hosted a daily outpouring of astonishingly vile abuse of Clark, and who put up billboards comparing her to Mugabe and other dictators? Spare us the handwringing.

    What exactly do the lefties hate about John Key?

    Berend, are you sure you’re mystified why leftists don’t like someone who made big bucks as a corporate weasel for the people who brought us the GFC? You might as well ask what exactly the righties hate about Sue Bradford.

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  8. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    are you sure you’re mystified why leftists don’t like someone made big bucks as a corporate weasel for the people who brought us the GFC

    So personal envy and misplaced blame.

    In practice, National are a centrist continuation of Helen Clark’s government. Possibly the most benign National Party of all time, but the haters are going to hate, regardless.

    #votepositive

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  9. oldpark (331 comments) says:

    The anti John Key brigade are so much like the Iraq terrorists known as ISIS,support us or pay the consequences.Just look around NZ in the last week.A guy wanted by the FBI seems to have taken over the youth of NZ encouraging them to destroy the infra structure of the nation.A crowd of masked and open face ratbags are boasting about burning our PM John Key with an effigy ,with them also having sign destruction parties and boasting on face book and social media,regarding the destruction.Like ISIS, in Iraq NO ONE SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO STOP THEM,OR EVEN THE INCLINATION TO DO SO.Seems the sixheaded proposed monster of desperado parties, are in charge of the destruction , and mayhem, to get themselves elected ,any which way.

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  10. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    Psycho,

    Good choice for your nick. Very appropriate.

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  11. berend (1,709 comments) says:

    Psycho: put up billboards comparing her to Mugabe and other dictators?

    Maybe that had something to do with her attempt to block all political speech 365 before the election?

    Please give us a political argument why you hate (not just not like) John Key.

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  12. MT_Tinman (3,186 comments) says:

    What, this coming from someone ……… who put up billboards comparing her to Mugabe and other dictators?

    ie, told the truth, stated facts etc.

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  13. Evadne (88 comments) says:

    Stuff & the Herald have picked up the burning effigy story – but somehow have made it anti-key – the headlines are about Harre and Mana are angry at Key’s insults. Huh????!!!!!!!

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  14. SBY (121 comments) says:

    Again, can you imagine the outcry if there was ever a video of Helen Clark being burnt in effigy?

    Meh. People have such short memories. There’s nothing new about the PM of the day being burnt in effigy.

    Example: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10659301

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  15. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    “Again, can you imagine the outcry if there was ever a video of Helen Clark being burnt in effigy?”

    Not even fire could kill it!

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  16. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Milt got his first point quite right but then stumbled at the same fence that trips up the mad waterwoman and Cap’n cunners, home renovator and hunter-gatherer of The Leaves, Marine Parade, Herne Bay.

    There is also no comeback on Cap’n cunners being hypocritical in his labelling of Key’s corporate background by virtue of Cap’n cunners having stitched the Fonterra deal together because that was simply just (another) lie. He didn’t do it, meaning he isn’t a corporate “weasel”; he’s just a liar, a failure and a fraud.

    I really don’t understand why everyone is getting so hot under the collar about this racial stereotyping and denigration of Key; certainly at least those of you who, as Milt points out, have been quite happy to climb into Klerk and Herr Dokter in the past (ahem :oops: ). Sure, the anti-Key campaign is going beyond what we’ve seen the past and is more reminiscent of pre-war Germany and redbabble’s mates in the US south, but it is a bit rich for anyone to set themselves up on a pedestal and decree that their abuse of Klerk/Kullen is acceptable but that this Key stuff crosses the line.

    Anyway, from a purely pragmatic perspective, these kinds of attacks are entirely counter-productive. You don’t have to be Einstein to figure out which side of the political spectrum these people are on when you see National’s billboards trashed and then the immediately adjacent liebore, melon and blobcrim/hatfield billboards pristine and untouched.

    This vandalism and the excusing of it or refusal to condemn by the patchwork parties simply reads as a useful indicator of the sort of government we would wind up with if National doesn’t win. On that basis, it’s more likely to turn off-off potential voters hovering between National and liebor, whereas none of this bullshit will influence people who would have otherwise voted for National to change that vote.

    The people who do this are the lowlife, the trailer-trash, the deadbeats and the losers – your so-called “boy racer” /national front type dickheads. They do it because they are so utterly fucking useless and their lives so meaningless that this is sort of thing is funny and fun and a way of getting back at Key because he is single-handedly responsible for turning them into the utter deadshits they are. Plus of course the spotty-faced melonheads who think that their jolly jape is actually some sort of meaningful political discourse.

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  17. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Cosgrove eh.

    A nasty piece of humanity calling others out for being nasty.

    And you suddenly are his best friend.

    FFS.

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  18. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    Funny you say that Milt, you identify the difference perfectly. Do I hate Sue Bradford? Not even slightly, not even a little bit. In fact, I admire her principles and her guts for the fight. I abhor her political standpoint. Fundamentally different things.

    Many on the left demonstrate an almost visceral hatred for JK, and its highly amusing – one of the most respected and admired PM’s NZ has ever had, and the blinkered idiots of the left play the man, not the ball. You lot are hilarious. No, really.

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