Cunliffe says don’t sack me if Labour loses

August 22nd, 2014 at 1:30 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

would like to remain Labour leader and take the party into the 2017 election, even if the party loses at the September 20 election.

“In general, and with any new leader, you go through a learning curve,” he said.

“I think there is a very strong argument that it would be a waste of time, energy and resources to go through that process and start again.”

Asked if he planned to stay on no matter what the result, he said, “Unless I feel like I have done such a bad job that it would be in the interests of the party for me not to put myself forward – if that question arises.”

If Labour gets a lower vote percentage that they got under Goff in 2011, then I can’t see how he can make a case for staying. If he gets Labour into the 30s, then his position is strengthened and he probably can carry on despite the lack of confidence from his caucus. If Labour’s results is between 27.5% and 30%, that is the uncertain zone.

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27 Responses to “Cunliffe says don’t sack me if Labour loses”

  1. ROJ (114 comments) says:

    Maybe he does have a case for staying.

    That is on the not unfounded assumption he is actually the best they have. And I don’t mean just in caucus!

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  2. Fisiani (1,022 comments) says:

    The Cunliffe is secure before and after the election till the information spread by Grant Robertson is well known.

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  3. Zapper (1,003 comments) says:

    Would even that mean he needs to resign? Knowing the Cunliffe he would try a Len Brown and stay on.

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  4. Nukuleka (292 comments) says:

    As an aside I note that The Standard are talking up a Bill English plot to replace John Key as leader of the National Party! Russel Norman’s alleged dope smoking must be catching. They’re all in cloud cuckoo land!

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  5. polemic (459 comments) says:

    I feel quite sorry for him really, imagine going into an election with the worry hanging over you that you still deserve a chance to stay after you’ve lost!!

    He is obviously weighing over the most important issues of the election……

    But he will be OK because he’ll be on the great and illustrious HMNZS Co-Boat – The New Zealand Navy’s newest and most modern warship propelled in two different directions at the same time.

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  6. Elaycee (4,350 comments) says:

    Given he is the best thing for National, I hope Cunliffe stays. For life!

    But any decision whether he remains as leader will come down to one thing: the unions.

    And no-one can ever call David Cunliffe a ‘Yes’ man. ‘Cos when the unions say ‘No’, David says ‘No”.

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  7. iMP (2,349 comments) says:

    MMP may still deliver a PM Cunliffe. Let’s not count chickens…

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  8. labrator (1,892 comments) says:

    If Cunliffe loses it’s because he’s not being honest about who he is. That’s why people rate him so lowly. He should just stick to his guns, stop trying to please everyone and stop attacking everything that National does. If you oppose everything you stand for nothing.

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  9. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (344 comments) says:

    Fisiani and Zapper

    Is this the suggestion he may have a chink in his amour?
    If so, should people know before or after the Election? Especially if MMP delivers an accidental PM.

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  10. polemic (459 comments) says:

    More news from the Navy….

    Reported hacked from The HMNZS Co-Boat……..

    Rear Admiral Cunners was last seen putting the telescope up to his ear to see if he could hear what Commodore Norman was trying to say about that they should be like all good Captains and go down with the ship.

    Commodore Norman said that like a faithful green party supporter the rule should apply to others not him and only one of the Co-Captains needed to sink and therefore he was happy to let Rear Admiral Cunners go under with courage!!!

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  11. Tarquin North (252 comments) says:

    Not to worry he could always get a job at Fonterra, I here he started it.

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  12. stigie (1,056 comments) says:

    We need him to stay on…hes the best that National has got.

    Cant wait to see the outcome after the election with mostly the extreme left in that Co-Boat !~

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  13. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    so much fun

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  14. OneTrack (2,966 comments) says:

    What happens if he gets under 20%?

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  15. ROJ (114 comments) says:

    Onetrack – 25% is the important level.

    Assuming the vote is close – then we have near enough 50% right, 50% left. Of that left bloc, Labour needs to be over half to continue to claim they are dominant within the bloc. Therefore, 25%.

    Anything below 25% means Labour is just one lonely voice within an increasingly shrill babble

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  16. thedavincimode (6,606 comments) says:

    I agree with cunners. He should stay on when he loses.

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  17. gander (91 comments) says:

    Puzzled in Ekatahuna (340 comments) says:
    August 22nd, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    Is this the suggestion he may have a chink in his amour?

    ===

    Puzzled, please do not employ racial slurs in describing David Cunliffe’s alleged extracurricular activities.

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  18. gravedodger (1,545 comments) says:

    The first sensible and constructive policy decision he has made since his ascension to the throne.

    I wish him a long and rewarding reign.

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  19. wreck1080 (3,863 comments) says:

    He just does not seem to know the difference between right and wrong.

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  20. alloytoo (525 comments) says:

    I agree.

    David Cunliffe must stay after every election he loses (into perpetuity)

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  21. lastmanstanding (1,267 comments) says:

    What are the odds that Silent T dark secret is leaked before 20th Sept just to make sure he cant survive post election

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  22. labrator (1,892 comments) says:

    What are the odds that Silent T dark secret is leaked before 20th Sept just to make sure he cant survive post election

    If there is a damaging secret in the waiting there would be no reason to leak it before the election. You’d destroy the remaining base of support you want to take after the election. Better to wait until after, win or lose, and take the boost of a leader change and hope every one will forget your dirty politics in time for the next election.

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  23. IGM (216 comments) says:

    Cunliffe would not need to leech off taxpayers, ratepayers, or unionists (like the rest of his useless line-up), he has multi qualifications, with job prospects coming from many quarters. He is so valuable, most private companies would be fighting for his services . . . he and his CV say so!

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  24. Southern Raider (1,778 comments) says:

    I say keep him for the next 8 elections (in opposition of course). NZ would have such a guaranteed roses future noting we would have a National govt until at least 2040

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  25. Southern Raider (1,778 comments) says:

    Fisiani and Zapper are you suggesting “dirty politics” within Labour? That’s unthinkable as the left have integrity

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  26. Southern Raider (1,778 comments) says:

    A conspiracy theory

    Was Hagers book a pre-emptive strike to ensure Slater was non gratis and there was no way he would be able to (or be given airtime) to drop the Big Chenobyl bomb

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  27. Ross12 (1,373 comments) says:

    Seriously , here is a guy who wants to be PM of NZ and he is in effect talking publically about losing the election one month before election day. What’s wrong with the guy ? Absolutely no fight or backbone –the average Kiwi voter ( esp. males) he is after would see this as a major weakness. He may think it is not looking good and may talk about it privately but to let his thoughts out in public at this stage –he is crazy.

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