Greens want co-Deputy PMs

August 20th, 2014 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

Green co-leaders Russel Norman and Metiria Turei want to be in a full coalition with Labour and have senior Cabinet positions that reflect their party’s priorities, social justice and the economy.

And they say that the possibility of sharing the role of deputy prime minister has to be on the negotiation table.

So what positions will Hone, Laila and Kim have?

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49 Responses to “Greens want co-Deputy PMs”

  1. Redbaiter (9,528 comments) says:

    What a friggin basket case outfit.

    MMP, man it was such a mistake.

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  2. Richard (871 comments) says:

    As long as someone from Internet/Mana is the minister of Immigration then Kim will be happy which means his Toys..opps I mean Hone and Laila will be happy because their master is happy ;)

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  3. tvb (4,501 comments) says:

    They cannot be two surely. Perhaps they could job share. One do it for 18 months the other for the second 18 months. To have two co-deputy PMs elevates the Greens too much. But all this is premature. They are measuring the curtains before the election is held. They will be arrogant in a Government.

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  4. Nukuleka (346 comments) says:

    All nicely summed up in the very clever National Party tv advertisement just released! All paddling their leftie canoe in every which direction! (Ok, I know it isn’t a canoe, but it’s the best metaphor to use….)

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  5. mikenmild (11,684 comments) says:

    There’s only going to be one ‘co’ relationship: Sir Winston Peters, Co-Prime Minister.

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  6. Ashley Schaeffer (513 comments) says:

    I’m not surprised that it would take their combined skillsets to fill one role.

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  7. Igotta Numbum (465 comments) says:

    Norman’s first words once sworn in… “Payback time!”

    Be afraid, be very afraid.

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  8. thedavincimode (6,869 comments) says:

    So what positions will Hone, Laila and Kim have?

    No need to go there thanks. Although we all know what positions they assumed when the chequebook was waving about.

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  9. Grendel (1,003 comments) says:

    Wait, let me get this straight. when asked about their two key priorities it was economy and social justice (whatever the hell that is), not the environment?

    Nice of the greens to finally confirm that they are not actually green, they want power over our money.

    to be honest i would have assumed their priorities were castles, and giving back flags.

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  10. RRM (10,008 comments) says:

    They are going to run surplusses $2 BILLION larger than National, too!

    :-) I shit you not!

    I laughed so loud I almost crashed the car, when it was announced on the 3 o’clock news…

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  11. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    If it means getting into power, Labour will bend over and give them whatever they want. Al this talk of them not being part of his government is a crock of shit. If it’s the difference between being in power and not that will be put aside in a heart beat.

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  12. Zebulon (124 comments) says:

    Kim will be minister for the security agencies!

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  13. soundhill1 (269 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  14. woodburner (30 comments) says:

    Do you really think that the Greens would deny a left-bloc government on the basis of not getting the ministerial portfolios they want? They aren’t really in a position to say to labour “give us us XYZ in return for our support” because they have no other options. There is no way they would enter coalition with National, so its either an alliance with Labour on Labours terms, or be out of govt.

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  15. alwyn (438 comments) says:

    tvb says
    “One do it for 18 months the other for the second 18 months.”
    I don’t think either of them would agree to this.
    With a Government that was composed of Labour, Greens, Mana/Internet, New Zealand First etcetera they would both be only to well aware that it would explode within a year and the mug who had agreed to go second would never get a turn.

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  16. soundhill1 (269 comments) says:

    We have been talking about nuisance of cats. If we have both mummy and daddy looking out then we may be able to avoid more mistakes that one or other makes. I think the advice in this is wrong in some respect: http://www.wikihow.com/Litter-Train-a-Cat
    Cats do not have the instinct to eat where they poo. Don’t try to override that by forcing them to. Then if they do make a mistake you may put their food where they made the mistake to tell them it is not the pooing place? Got to work with nature, more hands the better.

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  17. Zapper (1,027 comments) says:

    What a complete shambles of a system that has these 2 incompetent fools talking about the possibility of being co-Deputy Prime Minister, and that it isn’t completely out of the question. Unbelievable.

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  18. edhunter (552 comments) says:

    So what positions will Hone, Laila and Kim have?

    The image of a human centipede suddenly came to mind with Kim at the front obviously.

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  19. rouppe (980 comments) says:

    I thought their three priorities were Thriving kids, Rivers we can swim in, and the Economy

    Social Justice is a very broad brush, and Rivers we can swim in makes no mention?

    Is this different messages for different audiences?

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  20. dime (10,100 comments) says:

    urgh it will be interesting if these lunatics get in.

    with their punishment taxes and interest rates going through the roof.. Dimes lifestyle may be compromised! if mortgage rates go over 15% im gonna be living like… not fun

    3 more years of national an im home free and untouchable :D fingers crossed!

    apparently wussell is on with garner now. i tweeted an asked if they will still impose a chch earthquake levy. id love to know if thats off the table.. or will it be 40% plus 3-5% for the levy!?

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  21. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    “Greens want co-Deputy PMs”
    Awesome……. Any drop in popularity the Nats might have had after the Hagar/Dotcom smear, they will have just won back again and more…. With headlines like this!

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  22. Inthisdress (296 comments) says:

    No, I think it’s a great idea; but only as a stop-gap before they get to ratify a Co-Presidential arrangement.

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  23. Brian Smaller (4,024 comments) says:

    So what positions will Hone, Laila and Kim have?

    Sturmbahnfuhrers?

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  24. david (2,563 comments) says:

    So what positions will Hone, Laila and Kim have?

    Left, Right, Out

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  25. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    woodburner

    “Do you really think that the Greens would deny a left-bloc government on the basis of not getting the ministerial portfolios they want?”

    Labour have such a pathetic and weak leader, I can imagine Russel and Turei crushing him in any negotiations.

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  26. Padriv Ustoev (85 comments) says:

    When the Chechen Republic was forming in the early 90s, they tried that approach to leadership, with having co-field commanders instead just field commanders. It just leads to infighting. But it could work with two leaders like in Iran – one political and one spiritual. Is there a post for a Minister of Spiritual Guidance in New Zealand or something similar? Who holds that post now?

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  27. OneTrack (3,218 comments) says:

    By the way guys, after the election there won’t be an Internet-Mana party. There will be the Mana Party and there will be the Internet Party, both looking for the payoff. And anybody who is delusional enough to think Cunliffe will be able to control them is dreaming.

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  28. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    Hone – Minister of Racial Purity….We know what he thinks of his cousins tainted with the ways of white NZers!
    Laila – Minister of Propaganda….. Eulogising every step of her ‘money man”
    Kim – Dear Leader

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  29. alwyn (438 comments) says:

    I hope they aren’t getting to excited about their prospects.
    I see from the Roy Morgan Poll just out that National are up 2% to 48%, Labour are down 2.5% to 27.5% and the Greens are down 0.5% to 11.5%
    Wah, wah, wah.

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  30. Komata (1,197 comments) says:

    rouppe

    Re: ‘Is this different messages for different audiences?’

    ‘Yeah, nah’….

    (Could there really be any other response?)

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  31. insider (1,028 comments) says:

    Will that mean twice as many climate emissions? Not that they actually care – only the little people will pay those costs.

    Roy Morgan has national up and the Greens and labour down again so Hager / dot crims bombshell seems like a waterbomb. That’s going to really annoy some in the media, especially the radio NZ news editor who has done sterling work getting over 100minutes on whale oil’s emails on morning report in just three days.

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  32. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    Nukuleka (244 comments) says:
    August 20th, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    All nicely summed up in the very clever National Party tv advertisement just released! All paddling their leftie canoe in every which direction! (Ok, I know it isn’t a canoe, but it’s the best metaphor to use….)
    ======================
    Its a lifeboat without the rats in it.!

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  33. polemic (460 comments) says:

    Priceless isnt it !!!!!

    Co Deputy Prime Minister Turei has given a press release that has not been co-signed off by her Co Deputy Prime Minister Robertson.

    Co Leader of the House Harre said that it breech’s the spirit the Co-alition agreement…. that they had previously agreed upon to have no surprises except by the Internet/Mana who are exempt from this policy.

    A vote for the Labour Party is a vote for the Co-Boat

    I suggest NZ send out a mayday before the boat sinks

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  34. Tarquin North (354 comments) says:

    I don’t want to rain on there parade or anything but, wouldn’t it be best to wait and see how they go in the election? There vote might(god willing) collapse completely. I don’t know what’s worse, their policies or their arrogance. Surely 10% of the population aren’t so stupid as to vote for this rabble.

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  35. oldpark (373 comments) says:

    Which election are they talking about.See both them Green Taleban, and Labour have taken a hit in the latest Roy Morgan Poll.

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  36. Fentex (1,024 comments) says:

    Duel executives is stupid. The position exists solely so decision making can be located in one place when needed, introducing division is introducing doubt where responsibility for action resides.

    It is a foolish idea.

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  37. soundhill1 (269 comments) says:

    @Padriv Ustoev wrote:
    >When the Chechen Republic was forming in the early 90s, they tried that approach to leadership, with having co-field commanders >instead just field commanders. It just leads to infighting.

    And some families divorce.

    > But it could work with two leaders like in Iran – one political and one spiritual. Is there a post for a Minister of Spiritual Guidance in > New Zealand or something similar? Who holds that post now?

    My mum was my music inspiration, my dad my electronics/wood work inspiration.

    And Dad was more analytical about religion than Mum.

    AlJazeera TV recently had a program about Muslims in secular France. It seemed to be partly up to industry/ military to make allowances for prayers/ramadan.

    Some of us like to follow one leader. Is it instinctive as I was talking about with some animals? Will we end up with a parliament for the humans and animals who work in pairs, and one for the ones who work alone?

    Possums are not social like cats. They have small brains and mostly only get together to mate.

    Need to consider other types of impoverishment even though an animal/human can be very successful in an environment survival-wise.

    So maybe more portfolios could have man/woman in charge.

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  38. Steve (North Shore) (4,587 comments) says:

    A lot seem to think the greens will be in Govt. It aint gonna happen.
    Tell them they’re dreaming, and so is granny herald

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  39. alwyn (438 comments) says:

    Fentex said
    “Duel executives is stupid.”
    I do like your typo. I cannot really see them agreeing on who would be the PM in the absence of the real one.
    A duel at 20 paces would be the likely result.
    No if they could, somehow, form a Government they would have to fit New Zealand First in and Winston would demand the job for himself.

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  40. balletgirl68 (19 comments) says:

    Well, thats going to work…Not!!!! 5 minutes in the lions den and they be all at each others throats!!!!

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  41. big bruv (14,137 comments) says:

    Laugh all you like fellow Kiwibloggers but unless there is a very real resurgence in the Labour party over the next three years (and assuming that the Nat’s do manage to win this time around) then the ever expanding female co-leader of the Greens is going to be deputy PM one day soon.

    As much as we all enjoy the Labour party being in disarray we should all stop and think about this for a moment. It is far better for NZ to have a strong Labour party and a weak Green party than the other way around.

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  42. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    “Greens want co-Deputy PMs” .. no. If the PM is a male then the Deputy MUST be a female .. both Labour and the Hillbillies have the equal opportunity thing going.

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  43. Fentex (1,024 comments) says:

    “Duel executives is stupid.”
    I do like your typo.

    I have to work hard to avoid homonyms in my writing. Though as accidental writing goes it speaks to the problem. And this one reminds me of a study I read recently that observed a common condition in nations that experience civil wars is doubt over the location of executive authority preceding conflict.

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  44. OneTrack (3,218 comments) says:

    jaba – “If the PM is a male then ..”

    We have had a male PM and, to be “fair” it’s time for a female to have a turn. Cunliffe can be co Deputy with Russel.

    Or maybe we should have Metira and Cunliffe as Co Prime Ministers and Russel and Laila as co Deputy PMs.

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  45. dime (10,100 comments) says:

    bruv – couldnt agree more.

    in a perfect world, labour wont get ANY list MP’s this time round. they will then spend the next two terms rebuilding with some talented centrists and we will be spared from the commies

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  46. Warren Murray (313 comments) says:

    One month to go and the dollar has fallen. It may yet fall much further.

    Whats i predict at?

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  47. Crusader (321 comments) says:

    big bruv (13,450 comments) says:
    August 20th, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Laugh all you like fellow Kiwibloggers but unless there is a very real resurgence in the Labour party over the next three years (and assuming that the Nat’s do manage to win this time around) then the ever expanding female co-leader of the Greens is going to be deputy PM one day soon.

    As much as we all enjoy the Labour party being in disarray we should all stop and think about this for a moment. It is far better for NZ to have a strong Labour party and a weak Green party than the other way around.

    Yes. But the working man’s Labour Party, as my grandfather used to belong to and vote for, no longer exists. It has been taken over by chardonnay socialists from the public service and universities, and various self-serving splinter groups campaigning for the interests of minority groups. It would need a lot of resuscitation before it got back to its old grass roots.

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  48. Paulus (2,660 comments) says:

    Other than the media I think that the public are now tired of the Hagar saga.
    But Kim the Crim is storing up the other stolen ems and innuendoes for his Coronation as Fuhrer just before the Election.
    Labour should keep quiet as I am sure within those ems, which Cam still has, are some destructive Labour ems from Caucus members.

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  49. Slipster (182 comments) says:

    Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:
    August 20th, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    Its a lifeboat without the rats in it.!
    ———
    What do you mean without?

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