It seems the feminists work for me!!

August 27th, 2014 at 1:35 pm by David Farrar

has done an open letter to the Speaker of the House.

27 August 2014

The Speaker Rt. Hon. David Carter
Parliament
Parliament House
Wellington

Dear Mr. Carter,

On 26 August 2014, Human Rights lawyer, Tony Ellis, said in an interview on Television New Zealand that Human Rights are only paid lip service to. It was not clear whether he was referring to human rights in general in New Zealand, but that may well be the case! 

On August 1st 2014, some Men’s Rights activists, including myself, were mounting a demonstration outside Bowen House, Wellington, which of course houses the offices of many Members of Parliament.  Three security guards who were working inside Bowen House came out — one-by-one and later en masse — to harass us, by questioning us and implying that what we were doing was not allowed and that they had some authority over us, both of which was untrue.  They took our photographs.  I only got rid of them by taking their photographs and starting to phone the Police.  As you know, they have no jurisdiction over the footpath and so were interfering with our Freedom of Expression.

At one stage, an obviously Feminist woman appeared out of nowhere and started arguing with us. I assume that she was deliberately dropped off by car in front of us, because I had not seen her walk towards us from the side along the footpath, and she left by being picked up by car from the footpath in front of us.  She was obviously an agent provocateur, and it was after that that the three security guards appeared together and said that they had received a complaint, which appeared to be from her.  It was a false complaint.

Could you please 

  1. discipline your security guards for this arbitrary and totalitarian behaviour;
  2. find out from them the name and contact details of the woman who complained to them and pass this information on to the Police and to me;
  3. discipline them if they do not have a record of her name and contact details;
  4. ask the Police to investigate if the incident with the agent provocateur was instigated by David Farrar, who passed in front of us twice and is a Feminist.

On 7 April 2013 I wrote to you about another case of Parliamentary staff apparently interfering with my Freedom of Expression — with regard to Select Committee submissions.  On that occasion, you gave no impression of having got to the bottom of the matter.  I hope you achieve a better result this time.  I note that the senior of the three security guards was a woman, and that the [deleted by ] does a good impression of being a Lesbian woman.  David Farrar has mentioned that I have called New Zealand a Dykeocracy, so this may be a case in point.

 I attach photographs of the security guards.

Yours sincerely,

 Peter D. Zohrab


http://equality.limewebs.com/?p=1#comments
http://newmalestudies.com/OJS/index.php/nms  

Should I confess that I did indeed send in a feminist provocateur to argue with Peter Zohrab? Will he discover that the Wellington Young Feminists Collective is in fact a wholly owned subsidiary of DPF Group Ltd?

The vast feminist conspiracy claims another victim. Well done girls. Charlie is very pleased with your work.

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18 Responses to “It seems the feminists work for me!!”

  1. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    The femme fomentors?

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  2. Redbaiter (8,822 comments) says:

    So what about Mr. Zohrab’s right to protest?

    Going by his story, it seems he not far off the mark calling this totalitarian.

    It seems that unless you agree with Progressive cultural mores you have no right to protest and are considered a secondary citizen. Very much like the old Soviet Union.

    I hope the offenders are prosecuted. Go back a few decades and they would have made excellent watch tower guards on the Berlin wall.

    Economic liberalism does not a free state make.

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  3. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    He is still not on the law society register. If he had toned things down at law school and thereafter he would have got his practicing certificate long ago. This sort of outburst is not exactly going to help his case assuming he still aims for admission.

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  4. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    I’m worried about DPF’s weight loss. While this may not completely affect his “feminist” status, its a slim margin, and could affect his “Dykeography” entitlement. Lesbians, as we know, are not well-known marathon eventers…or, as a rule, slim. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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  5. Redbaiter (8,822 comments) says:

    “This sort of outburst is not exactly going to help his case assuming he still aims for admission.”

    If that call is down to bigots like you, I admit the chances of Mr. Zohrab being granted a fair and just hearing do look glum.

    “outburst”…?????

    FFS…!!

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  6. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    Again I find myself in agreement with Red.

    Leaving aside the allegation that DPF was behind it all, if in fact a peaceful protest was harassed in the way described it ought to be of concern and is certainly worthy of a complaint.

    The right to peaceable protest doesn’t extinguish just because a few MPs might have to look at something with which they don’t agree or, god forbid, engage with a group who want their point of view heard. With other avenues of change such as petitioning Parliament or even overwhelmingly backing something in a referendum reduced to window-dressing for a system that doesn’t respond to the people it’s meant to serve, we do ourselves no favours by condoning the curtailment of protest.

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  7. Redbaiter (8,822 comments) says:

    Look at what Feminist protesters get away with FFS…

    This is completely unjust and a disgrace in a democratic country.

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  8. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    Well, I have just checked, and no pigs are flying past…the sun still seems to be in its place, and all else is well at Rancho Garrett…

    But notwithstanding all that, I find myself in agreement with Red…this “Mens Rights” group might be a bunch of obsessives like Dad 4 J’s group, or even downright loonies, but that – as Red has noted – is not the point. I certainly know of nothing which suggests Parliamentary Security – usually the easiest going of people – have any jurisdiction over the pavement outside Bowen House…

    Perhaps you can inform us otherwise DPF if that is not the case?

    peterwn: As a person who has felt the wrath of the Law Society before…On what grounds are they refusing this fellow a practising certificate? surely not on the grounds of his political beliefs? We surely have not gone that far…but then the late Greg King had to threaten them with Judicial Review to get my practising cert back, which they refused to issue, despite my having served my suspension…

    Now some little toadie can run off and report me for this comment…

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  9. MT_Tinman (3,186 comments) says:

    It seems the right to protest is paramount, the right to counter protest nil.

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  10. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    @David Garrett

    might be a bunch of obsessives like Dad 4 J’s group

    Nit-picking I know, but as I’ve said before if you’d had the misfortune to be dragged through Family Court and found out that perjury reigns while the rules of evidence are thrown out the window, you’d start to sound a little unhinged too.

    I haven’t – and for that I owe my ex my undying gratitude – but I’ve helped enough people who are/have.

    When a judge can dismiss a party’s criminal record (including perjury in a criminal court) as “historic”, and when an “Independent” Children’s Lawyer can recommend a reduction in a parent’s visitation rights and then, when asked to justify it, can blithely admit to not having read that parent’s evidence, then you feel like you’re through the looking glass and out the other side. And you start acting accordingly.

    On what grounds are they refusing this fellow a practising certificate?

    If I had to guess, it’d be on the grounds of psychological unsuitability (or however they’d term it). Which of course they’re completely unqualified to judge.

    But on the wider point. Doctors have a union – the NZMA – a professional standards body – the RNZCGP for GPs, etc – and a registration body – the NZMC.

    The NZMC can thus decide to certify (and to de-certify) based solely on competence and not on limiting the number of new competitors wanting to set up shop in opposition to their members.

    Lawyers, OTOH, have all three functions rolled into one and thus can control the market. It seems unbalanced and unfair, and is no doubt reflective of the fact that Parliament has had far more lawyers than doctors pass through it.

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  11. anticorruptionnz (215 comments) says:

    Perhaps it doesn’t occur to him that women have human rights because we are human
    some men who prefer to be morons dont have human rights because morons are not human.

    so if all male morons became human and acted like humans they might find that they dont have to have men rights because they have human rights.

    having said that some extreme women are morons as well if thy too acted like humans they might find that they dont have to have female rights because they have human rights.

    Man cannot survive without women on the other hand we can have test tube babies. But there is no fun in that .. men do have their uses …limited but they do have their uses ( I’m joking )

    the secret is to remain human at all times and respect your fellow human beings and dont expect more than you are legally entitled to .

    lets try a little kindness.

    Grace Haden Independent for Epsom

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  12. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    lets try a little kindness…

    some men who prefer to be morons dont have human rights because morons are not human

    Well done. Just the sort of logical consistency we’ve come to expect.

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  13. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    I also have no problem with this..cops checking bars is as old as the Ark…

    flipper: with all due respect old chap, Collins hasn’t been Minister of Police since 2011..

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  14. Redbaiter (8,822 comments) says:

    “Well done. Just the sort of logical consistency we’ve come to expect.”

    We’re defeated Rex… :)

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  15. dad4justice (8,219 comments) says:

    “might be a bunch of obsessives like Dad 4 J’s group”

    This coming from a disgraced former politician with identity issues. I would expect nothing less. I can remember when Batman protested in the grounds of parliament, they did never find out how he got in to do his stuff inside the building. I guess the security staff are still wondering if the Bat will visit again? Look to the sky fembots. The fools have no jurisdiction over a public footpath.

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  16. jedmo (33 comments) says:

    All strength to Peter Zohrab he’s been speaking truths that some find distasteful, for a long time, and paying a price it would seem. 25 years ago he was always available, courteous and a beacon of reason, for me (and I’m sure others,) as I was dealing with the Kafka seeming world of Family court – custody and access – etc.

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  17. Grant500 (22 comments) says:

    anticorruptionnz:” Man cannot survive without women on the other hand we can have test tube babies.”

    Not really up to date with biology are you? Test tube babies still require a sperm from – guess what – a male.
    Another feminazi that thinks women don’t need men. You need us just as much.

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  18. lolitasbrother (691 comments) says:

    The Men’s movement emerged in New Zealand in the 1960’s.
    It had the quaint American tag name DAWMA, being; Defence against Womens’ Maintenance and Alimony
    Later the movement merged to be called “Families need Fathers” and by the late 1970’s the movement had .
    another change of name came to be called “Equal Parental Rights “

    The names seem characteristic of the Men’s movement at each period of time.
    At its heart was the need to remove the presumption that custody mostly would go singularly to the Mother of Children and that the Father would pay maintenance.

    When you consider back, there was often a division of function between parents, and that is the father earned the bread and the Mother nurtured the children. This was certainly the case with my Mum and Dad.

    A lot of discontent arose because, singular custody of children meant the family home was occupied by the Mother, and then the Father, suddenly had loss of home, loss of love, loss of money, and even often loss of access to the children.
    Fathers started going to Australia and elsewhere, creating the single parent family.
    I think Norman Kirk introduced the Domestic Purposes benefit , to replace the scary sounding Destitute Persons Act
    By the 1980’s there was substantial pressure for shared custody, and inclusion of the father .
    Well there is a lot more; but basically the apparent presumption that the Mother would take custody was specifically removed from the law to provide for children and father access
    This is not the gospel of course , just general stuff.
    I always thought men could do a few years in the movement and then get out

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  19. ChardonnayGuy (1,206 comments) says:

    Am I the only bloke here who finds the antics of the male backlash lobby embarassing and fanatical? Thank goodness their facile, self-serving antifeminism is so tiny and politically insignificant. I loathe deadbeat dads and their failure to man up and meet their parental responsibilities to children they have fathered.

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