Jonah backs Key

August 2nd, 2014 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

He’s famous for wearing black, but don’t be surprised to see wearing National blue.

The rugby legend has endorsed Prime Minister on Twitter.

“Great to have a Leader that leads proud to be Kiwi @johnkeypm,” Lomu tweeted to his 46,000 followers yesterday.

The backing was promptly re-tweeted from Key’s account to its 113,000 followers, with the National leader also tweeting: “Thanks for your support @JONAHTALILOMU. #AllBlackLegend #TeamKey.”

As expected, a few people are spewing about this. How dare a Pacific Islander endorse John Key!

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112 Responses to “Jonah backs Key”

  1. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Lefties reserve a special type of hatred for dark skinned people who stray off the plantation. They are race and class traitors – the worst two things you can be to the left.

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  2. kaykaybee (152 comments) says:

    Jonah is da man

    Hope that message gets out there in the PI community load and clear!

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  3. Fisiani (1,039 comments) says:

    Pacific islanders are realising that Labour are just a gaggle of gays and union hacks. Church leaders in South Auckland are very impressed with John Key and National. Sam has worked really hard for 6 years to bring about this change. The National Party campaign launch will be held in South Auckland. When a Labour voter swaps over to being a National voter the nett gain is 2 votes to National. . I see that Richie McCaw is also publicly supporting TeamKey. The Mad Butcher likes him.
    I sense a seismic shift.

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  4. Southern Raider (1,830 comments) says:

    I agree. Sam needs a much higher position in National than he gets at the moment

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  5. starboard (2,537 comments) says:

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  6. radvad (765 comments) says:

    ” The National Party campaign launch will be held in South Auckland.”

    A good move. Hopefully Jonah and Michael Jones will feature loud and proud.

    Ahh and Jonah. Not only is JK proud to be a kiwi, he is also proud to be a man.

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  7. Chuck Bird (4,884 comments) says:

    That is nothing. You should see the picture of who David Cunliffe had lunch with.

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  8. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Chuck, I’m having trouble telling if he’s wearing a toupee or is it just a bad dye job?

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  9. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    There’s a sea change happening in South Auckland and out west as well. Labour has done precious little to justify its mortgage on the Pasifika vote, and as a new generation of Pacific leaders emerges, they can see National being the party of choice.

    Sam Lotu-Iiga is a role model for young Pasifika now. His parents were immigrants who worked hard, but smart enough to see that education was the key to success in New Zealand. They pushed Sam, he got his education, worked hard and is now a very respected electorate MP. It’s a real shame that his father passed away before Sam was promoted to the role of Minister of PI Affairs. Alfred Ngaro’s back-story is much the same – his parents worked all hours to provide for him and his siblings. He became an electrician, then later a pastor and community worker and is now a very well-regarded MP. And Alfred is giving Phil Twyford a real run for his money in Te Atatu.

    People like Sam and Alfred are showing there’s no “brown ceiling” for young, ambitious PI people. If they’re prepared to work hard, the sky is the limit. And Pacific community leaders are waking up to that too. National will eat into Labour’s vote in South and West Auckland this year, and Labour supporters will be too busy getting bent out of shape about Jonah Lomu being a “class traitor” to notice until it’s too late.

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  10. Nukuleka (327 comments) says:

    National should be using popular and photogenic Pacific Island MPs such as Alfred Ngaro to highlight just how ethnically diverse the National Party in fact is. There is a very real need to publicise the diversity that exists within the party in order to counterbalance the left’s spin about National being the party of privilege and the white male middle class.

    I would advocate an election campaign focused upon this theme- the National Party that is diverse yet unified.

    I appreciate that it is nice to have Jonah endorsing John Key but I would hate to see New Zealand politics descend into the celebrity endorsement hoopla that seems to dominate US politics.

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  11. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

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  12. Southern Raider (1,830 comments) says:

    Unlike the left Sam and Alfred got their positions (probably up against a long list of European candidates) because they are intelligent, driven and good guys.

    I’ve never heard anyone (including the media) say anything bad about Sam. Maybe a future Prime Minister?

    Whereas on the left they prefer if your a brown candidate to have been a union member with no ambitions

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  13. UpandComer (537 comments) says:

    I don’t think Jonah likes a leader of a political party talking to him in a faux South Auckland Bro accent like one of his boys from the hood a la Cunliffe at the markets. Psycho replace with ‘South Auckland Brown boy made good supports National’ it’s got to hurt.

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  14. flipper (4,067 comments) says:

    Psycho Milt (2,270 comments) says:

    August 2nd, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    Newsflash – wealthy …

    ****

    Newsflash… Maximum security alert.
    Milt missing from Mason Clinic Psycho ward.

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  15. Southern Raider (1,830 comments) says:

    It’s good to see positive role models from all cultures now coming out in support of National whereas in the past it was frowned upon and they would have been severely harassed.

    Lomu, Jones and The Butcher are the worst kind of people to the left. Upstanding community leaders who started with nothing.

    Whereas on the left who do they attract? That’s correct gangster rappers

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  16. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Sheesh Milt; you really do the Left’s cause no end of good when you come out with terms of endearment like “thicko”. Sure, Jonah Lomu might not have the academic qualifications that Labour and the Greens seem to place so much importance on nowadays (followed closely by union credentials and sexuality), but he is no one’s fool.

    But hey; if the Left wants to demonise Lomu with disparaging references and alienate a huge bloc of Auckland voters, who are we to stop them?

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  17. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    @ Nukuleka – National needs to keep posting photos of Alfred posing with that awesome black beast of a Dodge Ram ute he’s been lent for the election campaign. That’s the kind of thing that REALLY appeals to Waitakere Man and his buddies; a fellow tradie, with a genuine bloke’s car!

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  18. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Hell I see that the polls have turned. Poor JK having to rely on a twerp like Jonah is a major worry! :)

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  19. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    PM … unworthy of you.

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  20. Hair Removal Specialist (80 comments) says:

    Agree with a lot of the comments above – Sam Lotu-Iiga is proof that “minorities” do not need seats reserved in parliament specifically for them in order to have representation.

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  21. Bob (497 comments) says:

    As Maori and Islanders improve their positions in society and improve their standard of living they have less need of the “prop-me-up society is cruel to me” Labour Party. Then they start to appreciate the policies of National which help them to get ahead.

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  22. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    So according to resident KB lefties Lomu is now a twerp and a thicko. Thank you for proving the point in Farrer’s original post.

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  23. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    But hey; if the Left wants to demonise Lomu with disparaging references and alienate a huge bloc of Auckland voters, who are we to stop them?

    I realise that people running for office have to pretend that dim-bulb celebrities are people of great importance, but I’m not running for office.

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  24. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Well sorry Brian I’ve never been a leftie but I have to agree (sob) with Psycho on this one.

    Jonah is a thicko and if that’s what JK has to rely on to get re-elected then God help us all! :)

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  25. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    I wonder of Lomu would be referred to in such disparaging terms if he had “toed the bro line” and supported the Party that likes to keep his people down and poor?

    My ex wife tells me that there is a major change going on among the Pacific community…the “marriage equality” nonsense is apparently seen as a Labour bill, and something Labour supported…needless to say, Pacific people following their 19th Century version of Christianity see two blokes marrying each other as anathema…even if, like Lomu, they may not be able to spell it..

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  26. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    A thicko that votes for you is still a thicko but he might be a thicko friend is all I can say! :)

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  27. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    “I realise that people running for office have to pretend that dim-bulb celebrities are people of great importance, but I’m not running for office.”

    Praise the Lord!!!! On behalf of the people of New Zealand, thank you for not running for political office!

    Lomu has given New Zealand rugby one of it’s greatest icons.

    What is your contribution to NZ, apart from being an arrogant and nasty little man?

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  28. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Shawn: Well said…Remember Darien Fenton’s nasty tirade about the Mad Butcher, because he dared to say he liked Key? In the absence of anything else, that is the only “legacy” that person will leave behind..

    Up close the Socialists are seriously nasty people…particular towards what they regard as “class traitors”…a label I also picked up by virtue of returning to Uni as an adult and not staying on minimum wage as a Labourer….(Well, the oilfield wasn’t minimum wage, but apparently I should have stayed as a the union delegate for the Labourers Union that I once was…)

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  29. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Jesus you blokes are a worry. If a donkey cheered on JK you’d say he was a bloody good bloke of a donkey.

    I can still remember Jonah and his car stereo. He created a whole fleet of Courier Coco’s vibrating down the road. :)

    I still hear them. They park outside work going “boom…boom…boom”.

    They drive down my quiet street and you can hear “boom…boom…boom” long before and after the noisy wheels go’s past.

    Jonah is a bastard and I will never bloody forgive him! :)

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  30. mjw (396 comments) says:

    Jonah is entitled to back whoever he wants, and I note that the did so without mentioning the all blacks. John Key, on the other hand, immediately started draping himself in the black jersey again.

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  31. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    What is your contribution to NZ, apart from being an arrogant and nasty little man?

    Just to clarify, are you proposing a standard for Kiwiblog commenting in which, to hold an opinion about some public figure, one must have at least matched their achievements? The threads will be pretty fucking quiet if it’s generally adopted…

    David Garrett: the utter lack of self-awareness with which you propagate your sanctimonious hypocrisy is, in its own way, deeply impressive.

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  32. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    “Just to clarify,”

    You take all the time you need to get the other braincell functioning. I’ll wait. :)

    “are you proposing a standard for Kiwiblog commenting in which, to hold an opinion about some public figure, one must have at least matched their achievements?”

    No, I’m saying that if your going to attack someone beloved by most Kiwis, and call him a “thicko” then it is reasonable to ask on what basis you hold yourself higher than him, apart from your own sanctimonious arrogance of course.

    Personally I would argue that of JL is endorsing National, and you are not, then the thicko label should really be yours, because on that one issue alone he has demonstrated vastly more intelligence than you.

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  33. itstricky (1,832 comments) says:

    No, I’m saying that if your going to attack someone beloved by most Kiwis, and call him a “thicko” then it is reasonable to ask on what basis you hold yourself higher than him, apart from your own sanctimonious arrogance of course.

    Yea, yeah, yeah, like Susan Devoy. Everyone on KB just loooooovvvvvveeessssss Susan Devoy. And they think she’s very intelligent.

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  34. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Funny. You write

    No, I’m saying that…

    and then go on to say exactly that. I’m assuming the comedy is unintentional.

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  35. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    So the measurement of who is a decent member of society and who isn’t, is now to be decided by their opinion of John Key?

    Yep, I can accept that, its entirely in keeping with the standard of politics in this country.

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  36. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    “So the measurement of who is a decent member of society and who isn’t, is now to be decided by their opinion of John Key?”

    It’s a pretty good measurement.

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  37. kiwi in america (2,454 comments) says:

    Its not just the PI vote that will sit up and take notice, low information floating voters in rugby clubs will also sit up and take notice. Put alongside Cunliffe’s manpology, Key will have a complete lock on the kiwi bloke vote. National need to use Jonah to GOTV!

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  38. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    “Yep, I can accept that, its entirely in keeping with the standard of politics in this country.”

    Quite right Judith. What a vast improvement we shall see when chinless Dave, chinless Russel, multitool Laila and Hone the hater take control. Oh happy days! :)

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  39. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    “Funny. You write

    No, I’m saying that…

    and then go on to say exactly that. I’m assuming the comedy is unintentional.”

    Actually I didn’t. If you read what I did say it was different to your straw man. But you don’t seem very bright so I’ll give you a pass and just put the confusion down to you being a bit of a thicko. :)

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  40. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Psycho: I’ll play…my “utter hypocrisy.” …now I need you to be clear here…do you mean that I am a hypocrite for campaigning against violent crime and promoting longer sentences for violent criminals, when 30 years previously I obtained a false passport using a dead child’s identity? Is that the hypocrisy of which you speak, or something else?

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  41. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    sorry, it is my “sanctimonious hypocrisy” you object to…but see above….Please do clarify what it is you mean…

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  42. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Well, we have the (3) monkeys, but not the organ grinder…can’t advance the argument much until he comes back into the fray…

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  43. The only red for me is that of Manchester United (60 comments) says:

    I work in South Auckland and there is a change taking place with National gaining more ground. The civil union support by Labour has very little to do with it. From talking to many people it’s Labour’s continual support of helping those who do nothing all day long which is turning a traditional Labour base turn to National.

    Many Pacific Islanders in South Auckland are hard working. Working as cleaners, in hospitals, tradies. Their children are going to schools and performing well. These people are tired of seeing those around them get handouts from the government for having more and more children. To receive money every Thursday for doing nothing, when many of them can get a job. These Pacific Islanders are slowly bettering themselves and their children. They just want to get ahead like all of us. Also you are now getting more Fijian Indians and Filipinos living in South Auckland. They will vote for which ever government will help them the most. At present National. Besides, I don’t think I have ever met a lazy Filipino.

    I’ve done and are doing some campaign work for Sam. He’s truly a very, very smart young man. And might I add just a normal bloke. I think Sam along with Nicky Kaye and Nathan Guy will start climbing to very high and well earned positions within the National Party.

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  44. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    Poor hapless Judith: from a pro-Bain to an anti-Key. Tragic.

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  45. EAD (1,087 comments) says:

    @ KIA:

    That is a good phrase “low information floating voters in rugby clubs will also sit up and take notice”.

    For most New Zealanders, their only requirement of the Prime Minister is that they are popular, “a good bloke” and as Jonah’s said “proud to be a Kiwi”.

    John Key’s image in the minds of many New Zealanders ticks all those boxes.

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  46. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Manolo: yes, I received some interesting information about our Judy the other day…As everyone but me here probably already knew, she is a prominent “Bainist”…as is a certain killer who Judy defends at every opportunity, but claims to have never met…

    Let’s just say if my informant is correct, our Judy’s claim never to have met the killer is total bullshit – them both being Bainists of course…but in a way, that makes her strident defence of him a bit more rational…

    How do I avoid threadjacking?? As far as I know, Lomu is neither an admirer of the killer nor a Bainist…

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  47. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    Wait for the Labour nasties like chicken Little, Jacinda, Kelly to scream that Jonah is an alien….

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  48. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    ….”Wait for the Labour nasties like chicken Little, Jacinda, Kelly to scream that Jonah is an alien”…..

    No word yet on Colin Craig’s views. :)

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  49. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    “Let’s just say if my informant is correct, our Judy’s claim never to have met the killer is total bullshit”

    As someone who has been challenging her bullshit for a few years now I can say that any claim not to know Bain surprises me- As I am pretty sure I recall a comment to the effect of ‘You only have to meet him to know he isn’t a killer’.

    But then- ‘Judith’ contradicts herself so much on this blog I often wonder if there is more than one of her….

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  50. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    ‘Knives: Has she really said that?? The annals of murder are full of killers who “wouldn’t hurt a fly” or “such a kind man”…The best example being Dr Harold Shipman, who is thought to have killed more than 200 elderly patients…he got away with it for so long because he apparently was “just lovely” with the oldies in his care…

    But just for accuracy, I don’t know what she has said about Bain…but she certainly denies ever meeting the killer, and he is apparently also an enthusiastic Bainist…to the point of threatening people who challenge him…

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  51. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    DG- I also read a book once on the ‘cult following’ (primarily amongst women) Ted Bundy had when he first got arrested..

    “You only have to meet him to know what a gentleman he is…” etc etc

    Those supporters are real quiet now!

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  52. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    …do you mean that I am a hypocrite for campaigning against violent crime and promoting longer sentences for violent criminals, when 30 years previously I obtained a false passport using a dead child’s identity?

    Not at all, although I can see why you’d assume so – that did seem to be a popular stick to beat you with among leftists back when they were hounding you out of Parliament, but it struck me as distinctly contrived outrage on their part and I didn’t/don’t share it. Also, it wouldn’t constitute hypocrisy, as I’m sure you were prepared to point out if necessary.

    Here’s what I mean: Kiwiblog’s comments threads routinely feature denigration of successful, well-known people (not to mention denigration of less-successful, temporarily-infamous people) in explicit terms. It’s the bread and butter of Kiwiblog’s comments threads. You’re a regular here and often a participant in presenting jaundiced opinions on people who may well not deserve it. And yet the unremarkable observation that Jonah Lomu is not one of the nation’s more erudite celebrities prompts you to reach for the keyboard and write “Up close the Socialists are seriously nasty people… etc.” My point about lack of self-awareness is demonstrated by the fact that I’m now having to explain to you how that comment might be viewed as sanctimonious hypocrisy.

    Also, this:

    My ex wife tells me that there is a major change going on among the Pacific community…the “marriage equality” nonsense is apparently seen as a Labour bill, and something Labour supported…

    So, being a man of integrity you immediately pointed out to her that it was a conscience vote supported by John Key and most other National MPs, right?

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  53. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    I’m pretty sure I remember it DG- But ‘she’ will no doubt deny it and get real nasty and threaten me etc etc
    Get in line Judith! I’m still waiting for Philu to summons me to Court as promised!

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  54. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    You talk total bullshit Garrett, and whoever you think I am, you clearly have it wrong if you think I’ve ever met Bain, or the person you are obsessed with. (The fact you seek information about me confirms my claims that you are a stalker – however, you need to sack your informant).

    I got interested in the Bain murders, well after most people, but like most things I do – including the cases involved with the person you are obsessed with – I get seek information from official sources and inform myself. Then I decide what my stance is on the issue.

    Despite your clear attempt to try and find out who I am, I know for a fact you have never been sucessful, because if you did know, you wouldn’t be able to help yourself from making comment.

    Regardless of your criticism -and constant comments that I’ve given inconsistent information you have been totally unable to provide one single example of any such statements.

    @ Longknives
    You are another one that talks through your butt. I haven’t been on Kiwiblog for a few years – unless two is a few to you. And again, where are these correct challenges Longknives – give ONE example where I have given inconsistent information?

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  55. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Psycho: thanks for coming back and clarifying those two things…You are quite right of course…I was just waiting to point out that my promotion of longer sentences for violent criminals thirty years after committing fraud to obtain a passport could hardly be called “hypocrisy”…or at least not by anyone with an IQ above 100…

    I agree with you…Lomu is certainly no intellectual giant…in fact I recall seeing him on TV when he was still playing, saying at some press conference “I’m not very bright” in response to some attempted “psyching out ” of him by some other team (sorry, I find rugby a crashing bore, so can’t be any more accurate…John Hart was the coach du jour…someone will remember what I am talking about)

    And yes, actually, I DID tell my ex that “marriage equality” was not a Labour Bill per se… but apparently the Pacific community (as opposed to the “Pasifika” community with is a Uni of Auckland construct) doesn’t see the distinction…for them, it was a Bill promoted by a Labour invert, and one which the Labour Party enthusiastically supported…Hey? who am I to argue against their wish to vote against who they perceive to be responsible for “marriage equality” ??

    Judy: I have said it before and I will say it again…I actually don’t give a fuck who you are…or what you do…you are just another bullshitter hiding behind a pseud to me….

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  56. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (4,475 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    What has Philu got to do with it? Unless you are fantasising that I am him/her?

    Why don’t you check with DPF. He has log on details, IP numbers and so on, that enables him to identify the computer, the IP address, and ISP provider etc. Instead of being a wanker, why don’t you actually come up with some of this so called factual stuff Longknives?

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  57. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    Good Grief! Like I am going to go through 7,700 of your comments!
    And the last time I caught you out contradicting yourself you had a meltdown and threatened me….(How very ‘Karam-ish’ of you)

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  58. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    And there it is! (I knew the nasty threats would come..)

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  59. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (4,477 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Then provide evidence of that threat Longknives – which you can’t because it didn’t exist.

    You’ve never pointed out any inconsistency – you’ve accused me of being other posters, and therefore inconsistent – however, you’ve never been able to prove I have ever posted with any identity but this one and one other that I can no longer access.

    You are completely dishonest Longknives, so full of bullshit you wouldn’t recognise the truth anyway.

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  60. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    I don’t fantasise about Philu- But I do kind of miss that crazy kid! Oh the battles me and that deranged stoner had….

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  61. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (4,478 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    What nasty threat? You made a statement, I’m asking you to back up your statements with some proof. Those aren’t threats sunshine, they’re requests.

    threat
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    noun
    1.
    a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

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  62. Tauhei Notts (1,714 comments) says:

    To the Old Trafford man at 6.34.
    Interesting comments. The figures from those South Auckland booths, available on 21st September will fascinate an amateur psephologist like me.
    Keeping Stock’s comment at 12.53 adds grist to the mill.

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  63. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Garrett
    “Judy: I have said it before and I will say it again…I actually don’t give a fuck who you are…or what you do…you are just another bullshitter hiding behind a pseud to me….”

    Please supply evidence where I have bullshitted you?

    And yet you seek out information about me -and receive information about ‘me’ (according to your own words) but you are not ‘interested’ in who I am. Sorry, but one of your statements contradicts the other.

    Fact is, you have asked about me, because I’ve been warned about your attempts. Sadly you’ve only got a couple of deranged Counterspinners who think they know who I am, and have also done their darnedest to try and find out – but have also never been successful.

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  64. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    ‘Knives: Philu is actually the personification of all that is wrong with the welfare state….were you around when I actually arranged for a job for him with the local septic tank cleaner, who trades as ” I Suk Up” ? ..Everyone assumes it was just a game, but Peter was actually ready to hire him …no experience required for a septic tank cleaner’s helper…of course the bludging asshole never did make contact…presumably he is still “on the bene” although “the nipper” must now be 17…

    Judy: do you NEED IT IN CAPS?? I don’t actually care who you are…but your constant lies and contradictions are amusing…

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  65. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,472 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Then lets see some examples of those lies Garrett, and the contradictions to please. You’re always raving on that they exist, but have actually never managed to produce any evidence of them. So now is your chance – evidence please!

    Just a couple will do – I’m sure they will be easy to find, as you say there are so many of them.

    Or is it just going to be another ‘oh you can’t be bothered’ moment?

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  66. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Hey? who am I to argue against their wish to vote against who they perceive to be responsible for “marriage equality” ??

    I have to agree, that would be a big ask!

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  67. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Judy: I’ll say it again…no-one really cares who you are…i’m sorry to break that to you…

    As I have said before, the political parties do monitor the blogosphere…but they are only really interested in the comments of people who use their own names, and how many of those there are forum or aginum any particularly argument…

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  68. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,473 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    So you can’t provide any evidence of these contradictions and so called lies then? And your reason for not doing that is because Political parties do monitor the blogosphere… but are only interested in people with their own names? REALLY?

    Why the friggin hell would that worry me? If I wanted to pass a message on to a political party I would write to them directly, as I have on many occasions.

    Judy: I’ll say it again…no-one really cares who you are…i’m sorry to break that to you…

    and yet you found duty bound to make the comment above regarding someone telling you who I was ?

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  69. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    “……I was just waiting to point out that my promotion of longer sentences for violent criminals thirty years after committing fraud to obtain a passport could hardly be called “hypocrisy”…or at least not by anyone with an IQ above 100…”

    Quite so.

    The same allegation ain’t ever leveled at the former imprisoned drug dealer that went on to be a criminologist. I can’t remember his name. And there are resonable amounts of police officers sworn in who have criminal convictions.

    It’s the pattern of behaviour that matters, law and politics aside, you stayed on the straight and narrow DG. :cool:

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  70. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet (4,536 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Greg Newbold is his name, and yes he does still get his crimes mentioned – but he deals with them differently to DG. He is more than willing to discuss them, and explain in quite some detail about motivation etc.

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  71. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Harriet and Judy: Only partially right…Newbold was released from prison almost 40 years ago…but he still styles himself “Former prison inmate…” he “gets his crimes mentioned” as you put it, because “former prison inmate” is a significant part of his self identity…That right Rowena?

    I might as well describe myself as a former paper boy…

    His “motivation” was MAKING MONEY Judy…Do you claim to have met Greg or not? Might make it a bit easier to navigate through your bullshit about him…

    That said, he is the only criminologist in the country worth listening to…

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  72. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,474 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    I have met Greg, in both a professional capacity when I was doing some research, and prior to that when he gave a series of lectures as a guest lecturer and I was a just a student, and another time as part of a combined academic project. I also met him on the street once, quite by chance, and had a brief chat. Can’t recall any other times…

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  73. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,474 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    So you think I’m Rowena well well well, you are very wrong there, although I am honoured, I wish I had half the knowledge on the case that she has – but it does confirm who your information comes from. God David, you are such a sucker!! Rowena also believes David Bain is innocent, believe it or not there are more than just a couple of people that feel that way – and no I’ve never met her, but I have emailed her with questions about the case, she is extremely knowledgeable on it.

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  74. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Judy: I don’t give a fuck who you are! I chuck in that name simply to illustrate how many people follow your bullshit…I suppose you should be flattered…If you have met Newbold as many times as that he must have tried to seduce you (He is obsessed with sex)…did he succeed?

    Unless of course you are a “curvy” woman…he’s not much into them…

    You see Judy, the 5% of us who identify ourselves here just laugh at you…You tell me I am irresponsible…the Killer will never come out here! I am far too scary for him…and he cant do it from the other side of the road…

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  75. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,475 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    No he didn’t, nor did he do anything to even suggest he was ‘obsessed’ as you say. But then I doubt that he would do, in a lecture, or in an environment with other people, nor on the street when he was with other people. He is fun to be around and quite charismatic, so I guess some would be easily drawn into that sort of stuff, however, as I have mentioned before, I might be ‘loud’ with a keyboard, but I am actually plagued by shyness in person.

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  76. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    I prefer the nice ‘Judith’ who posts Tuesdays and Thursdays…

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  77. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,475 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Curvey? really? okay – if you insist. I guess you have to try and get whatever insults you can muster in where ever you can.

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  78. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    “I might as well describe myself as a former paper boy…”

    Sweet Jesus.. Now I am frightened!!! The ‘black hands’ haven’t come for you as well DG??

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  79. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (4,480 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    On the days when I’m working? Okay, must be too busy to tap into the inner bitch!

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  80. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Judy: You misunderstand…as you so often do…Like many men, Newbold has “a type”…stick insects with small breasts do it for him…As I have said I have no idea what you look like, and even less interest…but if you are the “mumsy” type your profile suggests, that will be why he showed no interest…that, or that you were stupid…like me, he likes them with a few clues…

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  81. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Garrett

    You seem to think that I would care whether you or your 5 percenters laugh at me or not. I suggest that worrying about such things is very much ‘your’ thing, as you appear to try very hard in that direction, and are the one that gets very upset when people point out your failings.

    I am not the least bit concerned about what anyone on here thinks of me, as you have demonstrated, you don’t actually have any idea of who I am for real, therefore, your opinion. or the opinion of anyone else, doesn’t bother me, as it cannot affect my reality.

    I come here to read and post, because I find that most people here, despite being right wing and having different opinions, are generally intelligent people, from which I learn quite a bit. Many have good senses of humour and are good ‘personalities’ to communicate with and get knowledge and different perspectives from.

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  82. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,476 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    dear oh dear oh dear – where to start with that? David, you seriously need to get a life – any life will do!

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  83. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Oh Judy, I have a very full life thank you…I have my kids here tonight…Charlie is nine tomorrow (Yes, yes, I know, the Killer might come out here with me sharing this information and all, but I know cowards, and he is one) so that means next week I am a free agent…and I already have plans…do you?

    Oh, and it’s “from WHOM you learn quite a bit”…for a PhD candidate – it must surely be at Waikato? – your grammar and spelling is appalling…

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  84. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ David Garrett (6,477 comments) says:
    August 2nd, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    Happy Birthday to Charlie then.

    I have many plans, every week, most of which are dependent on other people, so are usually changed. Have a meeting with the ethics committee regarding approval – eeekkk. Not really looking forward to that.

    Yes, my grammar and spelling are shocking – always have been, which is why I always get my worked checked before submitting it – so it doesn’t effect my overall standard.

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  85. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Well, some of us take pride in “checking” our own work…but who am I to Judge? I only have an Hons degree in law from Canterbury…I am not a PhD candidate at Waikato… and certainly never likely to be!!

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  86. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    I only have a lowly Bachelor’s degree-So I’m probably not qualified to critique…
    As an aside Rowan is getting rather aggressive over on GD tonight…He and Judith must have been drinking the same fire water!

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  87. Pete George (23,567 comments) says:

    You see Judy, the 5% of us who identify ourselves here just laugh at you…

    I speak for myself and can assure that DG does not speak for me.

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  88. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    Them’s fightin’ words Pistol Pete!

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  89. David Garrett (7,289 comments) says:

    Oh Petey, you are so pure!! Everyone here admires you so…

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  90. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    Yikes. Someone has just been gummed by the beige badger! :lol:

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  91. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Haven’t got it yet DG and when I do, I won’t be collecting it in Hamilton. Qualifications are just decoration, it is the quality of the people that carry your coffin to your final resting place that reflects most on your life.

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  92. ShawnLH (5,124 comments) says:

    “As an aside Rowan is getting rather aggressive over on GD tonight”

    Who is Rowan?

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  93. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    I might have guessed you’d turn up lac – always ready to bully at every opportunity. BTW that document I quoted the other day is available via the DIA too. :-)

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  94. Pete George (23,567 comments) says:

    David has developed a habit of claiming to speak on behalf of Kiwibloggers. If he has been authorised to speak on behalf of some others he should be specific about who he is speaking for and not intimate he speaks on behalf of those who haven’t given him any authority.

    He’s misrepresenting who he is speaking for.

    Everyone here admires you so…

    As he did again. Obvious bull, yet again.

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  95. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    “……Qualifications are just decoration, it is the quality of the people that carry your coffin to your final resting place that reflects most on your life…..”

    Hardly Judith. Most members of the public usually just get their loved ones – their family. Most noted people are the same.

    The vain probably ‘choose’ quality – what ever that is.

    And besides, the government doesn’t decide who pall bearers are for former MP’s, other than State funerals. You’re just taking the last swipe someone could take.

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  96. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Family are quality Harriet. Those that love you are worth more than everyone else. That is what I was saying. It is those that care enough that bring quality to your life.

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  97. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    So now we have 3 people who think the pall bearers reflect more importance on the dead than the eulogy. FFS.

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  98. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    5!!!!!

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  99. flipper (4,067 comments) says:

    kiwi in america (2,439 comments) says:

    August 2nd, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Its not just the PI vote that will sit up and take notice, low information floating voters in rugby clubs will also sit up and take notice. Put alongside Cunliffe’s manpology, Key will have a complete lock on the kiwi bloke vote. National need to use Jonah to GOTV!
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    ****

    Probably the only sensible, relevant, comment on this thread.
    Most of the rest is idiotic bullshit, and a waste of your time.
    Shut up you self-centred idiots, and go watch Crusaders v NSW …. a man’s game, to be sure.

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  100. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    I didn’t say importance Harriet, I said quality. Quality is subjective. What is quality to me, isn’t necessarily the same for you.

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  101. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    Judith you are trying to sneak away for being wrong.

    Pall bearers don’t reflect too much on who people are. No one takes much note of who pall bearers are.

    Millitary and Police aside.

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  102. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    They do to me Harriet. My qualification won’t carry me to my grave, but those that love me will. Those with quality – that give my life quality. Face it Harriet you jumped to conclusions and just decided by quality I meant important ppl. As we are learning, very few important ppl have quality, IMO

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  103. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    So anyway, back in the real world lol. Good on Jonah for not being a sheeple.

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  104. itstricky (1,832 comments) says:

    Judy: I have said it before and I will say it again…I actually don’t give a fuck who you are…or what you do…you are just another bullshitter hiding behind a pseud to me….
    Judy: I’ll say it again…no-one really cares who you are…i’m sorry to break that to you…

    Good God you’re laughable sometimes Mr Garrett!

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  105. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    …go watch Crusaders v NSW …. a man’s game, to be sure.

    I’m sure it is, but there’s only so much homo-eroticism I can take. Are there any women’s games to look at?

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  106. Maggy Wassilieff (394 comments) says:

    @ ShawnLH….. “Who is Rowan?”

    I am a grammar geek…… (I’ve spent too many years earning my crust from having to rewrite lousy copy).
    Some folks who have never come across “Formal English” are blissfully unaware of the grammatical fingerprints they leave when they put pen to paper.

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  107. gump (1,649 comments) says:

    @Harriet

    Eulogies don’t mean anything. Detective Inspector Bruce Hutton got a glowing eulogy even though everyone that ever worked with him knew he was a lying sack of shit.

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  108. kiwi in america (2,454 comments) says:

    Thanks Flipper – I hate it when decent threads degenerated into personal flame wars.

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  109. jcuk (687 comments) says:

    Personally I have always regarded as ‘thickos’ those who play football and support the game …. not sure if that is right now it is a professional sport … but in the ‘old days’ :)

    note I have not read the last thirty contributions :)

    checked .. that is sixty not thirty :)

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  110. publicwatchdog (2,596 comments) says:

    Interesting – as a woman who has Advanced Trade in Sheetmetal Engineering, was NZ’s first CBIP ticketed woman welding inspector, and a welding tutor for 9 years at Manukau Institute of Technology, I’m getting a very good response from fellow ‘Tradies’ that I’ve been talking to in Helensville, Kumeu and Huapai.

    The ‘Tradie’ vs the ‘Trader’ :)

    A proven representative of the 99% vs a proven representative of the 1%.

    Unlike (current) Bank of America shareholder, ex Head of Derivatives for Merrill Lynch and current Prime Minister John Key – I’m not seeking endorsements from celebrity sports people.

    When locals invite me into their houses to speak to meetings THEY’VE organised of their friends and families – then it’s ‘game on – John’ ……

    SO looking forward to the upcoming candidates debate in Helensville on Monday 11 August 2014.

    It should be SUCH fun :)

    Penny Bright

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  111. deadrightkev (469 comments) says:

    Oh Jonah likes John Key.

    The world stops. Cringe.

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  112. Goldsmith (27 comments) says:

    David Garret and Judith… you two should meet up for a romantic coffee at a laundromat somewhere. I have a feeling you two are attracted to each other, lol.

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