Leyland on Labour

August 8th, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

writes:

New Zealand politics is very odd at the best of times. Yesterday was particularly strange when we saw a story about how outrageous it was that candidate Kelvin Davis dared to actually campaign against his opponent. We are really in the twilight zone now.

David Cunliffe is putting Labour in a very awkward position by continuing to flip flop on doing a deal with Internet Mana. Last week he refused to rule them out, but then by this morning he had entirely changed his tune.

The problem is that a leader that is shifty about who he will work with will very quickly lose all credibility. He just looks hungry for power at any cost, and if he’s not going to back his own candidates and MPs, what hope do the people of New Zealand have that he will back them as Prime Minister?

Very valid points. Patrick is a former staff member in the Labour Leader’s office.

Don’t get me wrong, I want a Labour government. A deal in Te Tai Tokerau, or allowing Hone to win, would possibly assist that. But Cunliffe can’t have it both ways. He can’t go on TV and say Labour won’t work with Internet Mana, then suppress a campaign to ensure they win in Te Tai Tokerau. He can’t say that the coattails rule and rort by National in Epsom is unacceptable, then be complacent in using it to make himself the PM. It is those inconsistencies that annoy Labour’s base, shifts voters to the Greens (or even National in the case of many Labour supporters who can’t stand Internet Mana), and makes Labour’s message confused and unappealing to centre voters.

In other words your actions need to match your words.

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17 Responses to “Leyland on Labour”

  1. redqueen (563 comments) says:

    Long may Flipper continue to reign!

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  2. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.

    This would apply to Cunliffe if only we could work out what his stated principles actually are – as the statements appear to change by the hour.

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  3. James Stephenson (2,180 comments) says:

    Complicit, not complacent.

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  4. somewhatthoughtful (465 comments) says:

    “Suppress” seems like one way of looking at it, but it’s a peculiar way to do it. The head office has chosen a brand of ‘Vote Positive’ and deemed Kelvin’s website didn’t fit that message. Hardly earth shattering that they want to stay on message. I’m sure if Michael Woodhouse wanted to make a website where you e.g. play target practice with Russel Norman nat HQ might have a problem with it. Only difference is they’d get their scum merchants to build it instead.

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  5. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    The problem is that a leader that is shifty about who he will work with will very quickly lose all credibility.

    Really? According to the polls, a leader can retain credibility after spending years loudly ruling out as unfit for government a potential coalition partner, only to instantly rule it back in once coalition partners get thin on the ground. Doesn’t seem to affect credibility in the slightest.

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  6. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    This is probably why two thirds of Labour’s caucus hate Cunliffe. By association he makes them look just as bad, and that’s why Davis, Hipkins and Nash have spoken out.

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  7. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Can a journalist please ask Cunliffe who voters should vote for in TTT.

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  8. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    ” if he’s not going to back his own candidates and MPs, what hope do the people of New Zealand have that he will back them as Prime Minister?”

    Is John Key backing all his own candidates ?

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  9. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    But Psycho Milt, don’t you understand? Three years ago, stealing $158,000 of taxpayers’ money and lying about it was wrong, reprehensible, deal-breaking.

    But three years is a long time and now we can be, you know, relaxed about the same wrongdoing, which the perpetrator refuses to admit or apologise for.

    I look forward to a new version of ‘three strikes’, providing for a harsh escalation of penalties unless the offence is more than 3 years old, in which case you get to join the jury and decide the fate of people who’ve done far less wrong than you have.

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  10. Radman (143 comments) says:

    All this IS TRUE. And similarly, Craig’s Colon is saying his CCCP could support Labour!! Craig’s Colon looks every bit desperate for power like Cunliffe!! A power crazy religiously fundamentalist!! He mustn’t get in!! Along with that nutbar McVicor who wants the death penalty introduced. What a scary power hungry bunch they are the CCCP!!

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  11. Than (473 comments) says:

    According to the polls, a leader can retain credibility after spending years loudly ruling out as unfit for government a potential coalition partner, only to instantly rule it back in once coalition partners get thin on the ground.Doesn’t seem to affect credibility in the slightest.

    Because that isn’t shifty, it’s the exact opposite. It’s change of position between elections, but still a clear, unequivocal answer.

    In previous elections JK declared in advance which parties he would and would not work with. He has done the same this election. Good luck getting a straight answer out of Cunliffe as to whether he would work with the Internet-Mana party after the election.

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  12. Mr_Blobby (173 comments) says:

    Struggle to believe anything Cuntliffe says.

    He just wants to be Prime Minister and will do whatever it takes.

    It is just that simple. No upside for New Zealand.

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  13. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    Messiah Cunliffe is National’s best asset to win this election……

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  14. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    Cut the bullshit Cunliffe- You are as much in bed with the Obese German as Hone,Laila and the rest of the Greedy sellouts…(He has a VERY big bed)

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  15. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    .com is doing a great job of uniting NZer’s in my opinion. He is our democracy’s common enemy

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  16. Scott1 (552 comments) says:

    “He can’t say that the coattails rule and rort by National in Epsom is unacceptable, then be complacent in using it to make himself the PM.”

    I think he is morally obliged to do that.

    This is because the alternative (in the hypothetical) would be to force the country to go to the polls again immediately because he was not willing to even tolerate his government being the result of MMP with Dotcom.

    That might be a principled stand – but it is a stupid and antisocial principled stand.

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