The circus gets bigger

August 11th, 2014 at 4:45 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

Organisers of a political event in rural Auckland tonight have relented and agreed to let veteran political activist speak after she threatened legal action if she was refused. …

Tonight the prime minister is due to stand alongside the likes of and in the Kumeu Baptist Church for a chance for locals to meet candidates in the and Te Tai Tokerau electorates.

I’m wondering if there is another country around where the PM agrees to do a public meeting with the leaders of two parties on 2% between them and someone who got around 0.1% last time they stood?  I’m trying to imagine Tony Blair doing a public meeting with Nick Griffin as the equivalent.

He’s basically appearing with bad, mad and sad. You can assign each as you see fit :-)

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61 Responses to “The circus gets bigger”

  1. Pete George (23,686 comments) says:

    But it’s an electorate meeting. If Key wants to still stand in an electorate despite all his other commitments then his electorate deserves to have him front up at least once.

    I presume it’s generally common for candidates to attend many electorate meetings during a campaign. I’d have done ten or a dozen last election – and a party leader was at about half of them.

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  2. RRM (10,026 comments) says:

    Yay!

    I can’t wait to hear Penny Bright talk about herself.

    This is going to be really really interesting.

    :neutral:

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  3. mikenmild (11,767 comments) says:

    I’m pretty sure she will provide Kiwiblog with a report tomorrow.

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  4. Nostradamus (3,433 comments) says:

    Penny Bright (and the other candidates) are there to answer questions.

    But Penny has said she wants to ask John Key questions.

    Penny Bright has stated the rules in a previous comment:

    The main meeting will commence in the church at 7pm. Seating for 230, with sound system. Each candidate will have 5 minutes to present themselves, followed by written questions from the public, drawn for order. At 9pm the meeting will end, with opportunity for everyone to return to the hall for informal discussion and refreshments.

    Stand by for bleatings that she wasn’t allowed to ask John Key her question.

    This has all the makings of a circus.

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  5. Simon (763 comments) says:

    “with bad, mad and sad.”

    Yep and utterly devoid of what is really important, diversity of opinion.

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  6. dad4justice (8,313 comments) says:

    Is this another Hikoi of Dopes?

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  7. Zapper (1,028 comments) says:

    To be fair to Penny, if Turei is invited to any debates or meetings, then Penny should also be invited. They’re about the same level of crazy.

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  8. David Garrett (7,557 comments) says:

    Penny has said she thinks he has a good chance of taking Helensville off Key!!! The logic she uses is sound enough – vote for Penny because Key is number one on the Nat list and will get in anyway…the only slight problem is she’s as mad as a hatter and everyone knows it!

    Did she stand last time does anyone know (DPF says she did)…Does anyone know where she stood, and how many votes she got??

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  9. Peter (1,723 comments) says:

    “I believe I have an excellent chance of taking John Key’s electorate off him on the basis that why would you waste your electorate vote on John Key when he’s number one on the [National Party] list and will get in anyway,” Bright said.”

    With reasoning like that, she’s the equal of Harré.

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  10. mikenmild (11,767 comments) says:

    She stood in Epsom in 2011 and scored 124 votes.

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  11. Longknives (4,884 comments) says:

    Anybody from the ‘Standing at the Back Dressed Stupidly and Looking Stupid’ Party going to be there tonight at well??

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  12. Pete George (23,686 comments) says:

    Penny stood in Epsom last election: http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/electorate-12.html

    I wonder if there will be any room for the public after all the candidates and media have taken their space.

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  13. Peter (1,723 comments) says:

    Anybody from the ‘Standing at the Back Dressed Stupidly and Looking Stupid’ Party going to be there tonight at well??

    Sounds like she’s going to be on stage.

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  14. FeralScrote (226 comments) says:

    With Mad Penny and Chardonnay Trustfund Socialist Laila,all they need now is for HomeoTrish Cheel to show up to complete the trifecta of Looneys.

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  15. RRM (10,026 comments) says:

    What we really need, is a Penny Bright drinking game.

    :arrow: Open letter – drink
    :arrow: Corporate welfare – drink
    :arrow: Judicially recognised – drink
    :arrow: Occupy Auckland – drain your glass
    :arrow: ratepayer / ratepayers – fill and then drain your glass

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  16. RichardX (329 comments) says:

    mikenmild (11,001 comments) says:
    August 11th, 2014 at 5:03 pm
    She stood in Epsom in 2011 and scored 124 votes.

    That was fewer votes than when she stood in the Botany by-election in early 2011
    The failed candidate got 128 votes that time

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  17. Pete George (23,686 comments) says:

    It’s odd that Colin Craig and Pita Sharples can also be on stage at this meeting.

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  18. David Garrett (7,557 comments) says:

    Thanks Mikey…Given that the Helensville electorate is somewhat rural, and the bits that are urban contain people who I suspect have an above average education…I strongly suspect Penny may surprise us all and get fewer than 100 votes this time…What’s the bet she gets ejected from the hall tonight for breaking the “don’t refer to other candidates” rule?? I can almost hear her plaintive cries now…”But what have I dooooone…”

    PG: yes, I am puzzled by Sharples’ presence…he has supposedly retired from politics…He’s certainly not standing in Helensville…

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  19. nasska (11,808 comments) says:

    I blame Helen Clark…..she closed the residential facilities that used to offer a safe haven for nutters like Waterwoman & Harre.

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  20. anonymouse (722 comments) says:

    Will Penny be bringing along her current legal advisor de jour, who might try to submit some more DVDs as evidence that John Key is a lizard person :)

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  21. PaulL (6,048 comments) says:

    There would be some sort of entertainment in voting for her, if it weren’t for the fact she’d go around believing that a few hundred people actually agree with her. Still, if she wasn’t doing this she’d probably be doing something more damaging to the country, and everyone has to have a hobby.

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  22. doggone7 (827 comments) says:

    I’m wondering if there is another country around where a tv company is told who it must have on its programmes. e.g as in the case of Colin Craig.

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  23. hmmokrightitis (1,595 comments) says:

    Will batshit crazy woman be able to provide a receipt for a paid up rates bill? The thinking voter wishes to know :)

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  24. FeralScrote (226 comments) says:

    Ooops,looks like we`ve all upset the down vote fairy…..

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  25. The Virgin (1 comment) says:

    The perfect story to pop my cherry on; as a ‘Mainlander’ (Bills territory) this Penny Bright gives me the screaming shits big time. Has she paid her rates bill? Fuckin left wing bludgers, the sooner the council take action the better.

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  26. MH (817 comments) says:

    a non sequitur debate in a church,…it figures.

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  27. Igotta Numbum (466 comments) says:

    More importantly, I wonder if she’s a screamer in the sack as well?

    I’d paper-bag my own head, and do my duty for Queen and Country to find out this ultimate question.

    You’d be shouting me beers for months.

    :D :D :D

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  28. Igotta Numbum (466 comments) says:

    Hey, don’t down-vote me, I’m channeling Dime :D

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  29. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Igotta Numbum (435 comments) says:

    August 11th, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    Quite rightly be screaming rape, as I doubt it would be consensual with a man with such considered opinions!!!

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  30. Rightandleft (670 comments) says:

    I am at the event now and Penny not so bright has misspelled her own campaign sign. It says she is the “independant.” Wow, just wow.

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  31. Colville (2,300 comments) says:

    Igotta numbum

    Good God man, that is going beyond the call for Queen and Country.

    yes paper bag for your self, double for her, pull the fuses before you start just to make sure its pitch black in case of bag rippage!

    and at the end you need to take the selfie just to prove you did the deed! LOL

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  32. dog_eat_dog (790 comments) says:

    RIP RRM, prosecuted by ALAC for encouraging potentially fatal drinking practices in a public forum.

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  33. nasska (11,808 comments) says:

    Rightandleft

    Is she wearing the dead cat on her head tonight?

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  34. Manolo (14,070 comments) says:

    Miss Dim, a hopeless publicity seeker and rate-dodger, getting her few minutes of fame.
    She is an odious and malodorous character that deserves to be ignored.

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  35. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Manolo (13,464 comments) says:

    August 11th, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Maybe so regarding the publicity seeking but I think that sexist comments and personal attacks are unnecessary.

    Despite the ad nauseum posts, I imagine that Penny thinks she has a wider contribution to make and she has that right.

    It never ceases to amaze me the men that think they are superior to women and that think they are god’s gift, regardless of the state of them.

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  36. Peter (1,723 comments) says:

    regardless of the state of them.

    Irony.

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  37. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Them or themselves ;)

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  38. graham (2,346 comments) says:

    There’s live updates of the meeting at http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/beehive-live/10370303/Beehive-Live-August-11-2014

    It sounds like Holly Ryan is keeping the meeting firmly under control and has left nobody in any doubt as to who’s boss. According to Tracy Watkins:

    I suspect Holly is a lot tougher than Parliament’s Speaker who is mostly bark, rather than bite. Hope John Key realises that!

    Good on her, but it appears that Penny has not yet had a chance to talk. Initial indications are that if a showdown ensues, you’d be betting on Holly. Can’t wait! :)

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  39. graham (2,346 comments) says:

    Sounds like Tracy Watkins for one is intimidated:

    To that last question – i’ve tried to have a look but I’m too short to see over the tops of all these heads and too scared to stand up for a proper look. I don';t want to be the first one thrown out. Will keep you posted on that one.

    Awesome! Sounds like Holly Ryan is definitely in control!

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  40. Nostradamus (3,433 comments) says:

    Graham:

    Penny knows the rules:

    The meeting will be tightly managed, with any interjectors removed after one warning.

    I’m sure Holly will have arranged for a police van to be on standby for Penny – just in case!

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  41. Changeiscoming (199 comments) says:

    I actually agree with Pete Georges first post. We may not like the message and the messanger of opposing parties but they 100% have the right to have their say. It is total arrogant to think anyone can be excluded or their voice doesn’t count, it is simply not the kiwi way.

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  42. Nostradamus (3,433 comments) says:

    What a hoot!

    8.08pm: Independent Penny Bright was introduced as “uninvited” and “threatening injunctions”, and invited a few giggles in the crowd when she proclaimed she wold win the electorate vote.

    She said she was a defender of human rights and opposed to the TPP and “this neo-liberal, pro-corporate model”.

    Ms Bright said “contracting out was twice as expensive as in-house provision”.

    Cutting contracts would allow the Government to put billions of dollars towards social services, the self-described “fiercely independent candidate” said.

    I’m sure voters can’t wait to cast judgment on Penny Not-So’s self-declared victory. Judging by the giggles, they’ve already made up their minds…

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  43. Pete George (23,686 comments) says:

    The media might get what they want, having waved red meat in front of the circus animals.

    @MaikiSherman

    Crowd heating up in the side room toward Laila Harré – “screeching socialist”…”just let the German have it”…”traitor”…

    The side room is fiery guys…and it’s only round one!

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  44. David Garrett (7,557 comments) says:

    So, has Penny Not So been ejected? Or did she take some thorazine before she did her close up??

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  45. David Garrett (7,557 comments) says:

    Change: You must be a young chap…So if I decide to come and preach my sincere belief that blacks are all inferior to Kyle Chapman I should be allowed to “have my say” on the altar of free speech? (FFS google me, and in particularly my history before you respond and make an even bigger dick of yourself…)

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  46. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Let’s face it, the Helensville electorate and the PM have nothing to fear from Penny (for example) but I am sure that if she had been excluded, she would have said that that was why. Much better for the electorate to have the opportunity to see and hear her for themselves in person.
    That to me is democracy, you should be allowed to have an independent voice, my views on Penny have been formed from her Kiwiblog posts, others should make informed choices also.

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  47. David Garrett (7,557 comments) says:

    goldnkiwi: Yes, Well said sir…the problem though is Penny’s no doubt incoherent ravings for five minutes meant a minute less for all the serious candidates…and if you know what you are doing you can say a lot in a minute…

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  48. David Garrett (7,557 comments) says:

    The killer or his mate are lurking..no-one else could possible down tick my last…well, not if they were firing on all eight…

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  49. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Well unless you think a performance from Penny is going to capture votes I can see no downside to others being deprived of oxygen. John Key has no problem getting his message out otherwise.

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  50. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Perhaps a downtick for us both lol. Such fun ;)

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  51. Slipster (183 comments) says:

    @Rightandleft 6:46
    “campaign sign. It says she is the “independant.” Wow, just wow”

    Hold on. Perhaps she meant she’s not hanging off something. There is such a word (spelled like that). Just the meaning is different.

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  52. adze (2,129 comments) says:

    Hamish Rutherford:
    Holly Ryan confirms that PM John Key was the closest to being kicked out.

    Apparently for mentioning other parties during his speaking parts, against the rules. Penny the mad hatter will be frustrated she couldn’t take better advantage of Key’s profile-raising presence.

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  53. publicwatchdog (2,823 comments) says:

    Ok Kiwibloggers – a couple of FACTS :)

    Holly Ryan made the candidates signs.
    When I pointed out that she had spelled Independent incorrectly (she had spelled Independant) Holly insisted that was how it was spelled.

    Last year in the Auckland Mayoralty I polled 4th with 11,723 votes.

    Which is a more pertinent result – given that the Helensville electorate is within the Supercity (for the 1%) boundaries.

    I defended my lawful right not to be discriminated against on the basis of political opinion.

    I won. Holly Ryan lost.

    Holly Ryan, in my considered opinion is a spectacularly poor loser.

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  54. graham (2,346 comments) says:

    Err … so Penny, you’re reduced to complaining about the spelling on a sign?

    Really, so far as I am aware from the reports, the only point you could possibly take umbrage at is that you were introduced as “uninvited” and “threatening injunctions”. But actually, both points are perfectly true.

    Which of those FACTS do you particularly object to?

    Meant in a CARING way, natch. :)

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  55. publicwatchdog (2,823 comments) says:

    Keep up Graham.
    I was correcting comments that incorrectly stated that I was responsible for the misspelling of ‘Independent’ (as ‘Independant’) on the candidate sign which was made by Holly Ryan – meeting organiser.

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  56. Igotta Numbum (466 comments) says:

    So Penny, you a screamer in the sack? People want to know! :D

    p.s- for a change I thought you were quite restrained… well done.

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  57. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ publicwatchdog (2,129 comments) says:
    August 12th, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Well done for last nights effort Penny. Good on you for sticking up for yourself and attempting to make politics in this country about fairness, instead of corruption. It was an interesting exercise however, and the meeting clearly demonstrated just who the ‘nasty’ candidate is.

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  58. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Igotta Numbum (437 comments) says:
    August 12th, 2014 at 8:44 am
    So Penny, you a screamer in the sack? People want to know!

    And you accuse the left of being the nasty party!

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  59. Griff (8,197 comments) says:

    A picture of penny bright naked for your pleasure

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  60. graham (2,346 comments) says:

    Penny – fair enough, I didn’t realise you were correcting earlier comments.

    That said … how, exactly, does a mis-spelt sign mean that Holly Ryan is “a spectacularly poor loser”?

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  61. goldnkiwi (1,545 comments) says:

    Just a ‘bad speller’ ;)

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