Dotcom has now spent $4.5 million trying to change the Government

September 4th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

The Electoral Commission has just reported a further $250,000 donation from towards the . This brings the total he has donated to $4.5 million. It consists of:

  • $1 million before registration
  • $250,000 on 26 May
  • $250,000 on 30 May
  • $2,750,000 on 30 May
  • $250,000 on 3 September

So $4.5 million to defeat the Government and get a new Government dependent on his pet party. I think we all know why he is doing it.

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64 Responses to “Dotcom has now spent $4.5 million trying to change the Government”

  1. Spoon (104 comments) says:

    Freedom is indeed not free, it would appear. Costs a bit more the a buck-oh-five though.

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  2. Ross12 (1,425 comments) says:

    When the election is over, the answer to the equation : x$/vote , will look good when we know the value of x

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  3. IGM (390 comments) says:

    Is he not committing treason in a host nation? Surely this obese criminal should be on a plane to US, as we should not need to tolerate his Hitler-style behaviour . . . he must go NOW!

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  4. EAD (1,082 comments) says:

    You might not like the odious Kim Dotcom, but when has it ever been an offence to spend money to try and change a government?

    Just because Kim Dotcom is a degenerate narcissist, it doesn’t automatically make those whom he opposes holier than thou.

    “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
    ― Carl Sagan

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  5. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  6. Spam (588 comments) says:

    You might not like the odious Kim Dotcom, but when has it ever been an offence to spend money to try and change a government?

    Based on media opinion, “when the political right do it”.

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  7. Ross12 (1,425 comments) says:

    Judith –just look at the same Electoral Commission sources that DPF has and you will get your answer.

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  8. Drone (19 comments) says:

    Interesting numbers but why pick on just one individual, OH I KNOW because you dislike him. The funding of political parties happens all the time and you should publish all the big doners and donations. Or is this a Whaleoil moment…………….

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  9. IGM (390 comments) says:

    Judith: You are one sick vile left-wing loser.

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  10. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    Im getting on a plane to LAX tonight. Gosh it feels nice to be able to do that with no issues whatsoever. And it doesnt cost me $4.5M. Client’s paying for my bed, I shall sleep very well courtesy of AirNZ.

    Wonder if the large gerry will fit in his economy seat on his way up next year :)

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  11. stigie (1,173 comments) says:

    Judith, John Key also gives his money to charity and most of his salary i believe !~

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  12. James Stephenson (2,177 comments) says:

    a further $250,000 donation

    What’s that saying about reinforcing failure? It also doesn’t include whatever he had to pay the hacker…

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  13. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    he is spending all that money simply because he doesn’t like porridge, baked beans on toast and wearing orange.

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  14. Kimbo (934 comments) says:

    So $4.5 million to defeat the Government and get a new Government dependent on his pet party. I think we all know why he is doing it.

    He’s working for the Exclusive Brethren?

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  15. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    The interesting thing is he’s spending all that money and making very little difference. InternetMana are barely polling above Mana’s 2011 numbers.

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  16. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Crikey!

    I’ve only spent a few hundred dollars to help change the Government.

    Penny Bright :)

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  17. tom hunter (4,838 comments) says:

    I’m fine with this since it’s all public knowledge.

    I just want all the left-wingers that he’s supporting to stop trying to lecture me about corruption.

    They won’t of course: their self-belief in the purity of their principles, their decency, their “niceness”, their incorruptibility, their very selves as wonderful, caring human beings is fucking titanium-clad.

    Oh yeah, and the ends justifies the means.

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  18. Richard (82 comments) says:

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  19. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “….I’ve only spent a few hundred dollars to help change the Government….”

    Your trying to get out of paying your rates….that’s a bit different than trying to get out of the US penal system.

    But you both have the same motive – change the government and change the rules —- or in your case, your taxer payer funded income will get you your desired outcome – have ‘other people’s money’ pay your overdue rates bill.

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  20. Nigel Kearney (1,013 comments) says:

    Tom Hunter is right.

    Left-wingers should stop trying to lecture us about corruption and right-wingers should stop pretending there is anything wrong with people spending their own money on election campaigns.

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  21. tom hunter (4,838 comments) says:

    There’s no way the next government could be as corrupt at this one.

    After hearing about Tuku Morgan’s underpants that’s what I thought in 1999 when I voted for Helen Clark.

    As it turned out Morgan’s expensive underwear was a molehill of corruption compared to the mountain of election rorts that Labour pulled over the next few years.

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  22. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    EAD

    You might not like the odious Kim Dotcom, but when has it ever been an offence to spend money to try and change a government?

    Perhaps you should ask the Exclusive Brethren that question ?

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  23. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    $4.5 million seems pretty cheap for a party that comes with an electorate MP who is likely to get another MP or two in on his coat-tails.
    It makes Colin Craig’s investment look like a dud.

    Foreign investment in NZ has found a new market. I look forward to 2017 where we should see some real competition – I reckon we should be getting at least $10 million per MP by then.

    Do we need some new rules to stop Chinese buying in?
    What about moslems? There’s a lot of oil money we could tap into – as long as we don’t mind a bit of Shariah law. Women don’t need nearly as many personal freedoms as they have here anyway. And the occasional beheading in Aotea Square would do wonders for morality.

    Or if that seems unsavoury maybe we should restrict foreign investment in political parties only to white Europeans?

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  24. backster (2,171 comments) says:

    The 4.5$ mill was just to buy Hone and Laila I wonder how much the hackers cost.

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  25. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    Richard says at 9:36 am

    “There’s no way the next government could be as corrupt at this one.”

    Another zero-content drive-by comment from a left wing drone.

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  26. IGM (390 comments) says:

    Public Dog: Not only have you wasted a few hundred, but where did it come from? Slobcom!

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  27. radvad (765 comments) says:

    Does anyone really believe his endgame is to bring down Key? The dirt he is releasing at the moment is designed to do that, it is all negative to National. His next move is to get a new left coalition government to block his extradition. The only way he could do that is to have something over them which he is saving for then.

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  28. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ stigie (1,009 comments) says:
    September 4th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    Yep, so do I believe that – problem is no one has ever ‘shown us the money’ – that is, no one has ever told us how much he gives, and/or who those charities are. And lets face it, there are charities, and there are ‘charities’ – not all are admirable ones in my opinion.

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  29. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Judith

    Now having said that, tell us how Winston paid the $158,000 he stole from tax payers to a charity so it’s OK he hasn’t paid it back. Go on… you are normally good at defending your team for the same things you bag Key for.

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  30. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Other_Andy (2,518 comments) says:
    September 4th, 2014 at 9:59 am

    So you thought you’d make an example of it, but providing another zero-content drive-by comment from a right wing drone?

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  31. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ burt (8,059 comments) says:
    September 4th, 2014 at 10:17 am

    There is a vast difference in those situations Burt. Winston’s was one action, that is not used to make him out to be ‘such a jolly good fellow for giving money to charity from his wages’ – like it is for the Prime Minister. We hear all about this ‘wonderful sacrifice, year after year, but in all that time, we’ve never seen any proof of those multiple transactions, nor do we know any of the details.

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  32. doggone7 (801 comments) says:

    IGM: “…Is he not committing treason in a host nation? ….his Hitler-style behaviour . . . ”

    So spending money on elections is treason now?

    And what particularly makes his behaviour “Hitler-style” ? And is that worse than the corruption in the use of the SIS and other stuff that Collins and Key are involved in ?

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  33. alloytoo (542 comments) says:

    @IGM – Sadly I suspect that few hundred dollars came out of taxpayer’s pockets (Though it certainly should have gone to Auckland council)

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  34. Colville (2,268 comments) says:

    It could be argued that John Key makes a donation circa $5Mil/yr to the NZ public because his salary is so low as PM compared to what he could earn.

    As for DotKrim. All good, spend up. Income tax and GST on that lot pays a fair few dole bludgers.

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  35. doggone7 (801 comments) says:

    “Colin Craig has now spent $1.5 million trying to change the Government”

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  36. chris (647 comments) says:

    I disagree with almost everything Judith posts*, but she has a point about how John Key supposedly gives away his salary to charity. Can we have a (recent) citation for this? I keep seeing it repeated here on Kiwiblog, but where’s the evidence. And I’m a National/ACT voter, so I’m not some leftie trying to point score.

    (* Although sometimes she writes some good stuff, in between taking over comment threads by arguing arguing arguing with people who disagree with her.)

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  37. SteveRemmington (16 comments) says:

    Considering that Dotcom on formation of InternetMana promised to spend a total of $5m on this exercise, has he now reached his limit.

    Is there $500k left to spend of has is been spent already?

    Hone?

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  38. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Do you remember the old days when the left wing used to decry “big money” in politics as a corrupting influence?

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  39. chris (647 comments) says:

    It’s different when the left do it, don’t you know Brian ;) But seriously, imagine the outcry if we had had a Labour government and KDC had his knickers in a knot about the Labour PM, started a party to oust the Labour Party and poured millions of dollars into it?

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  40. Paul Williams (878 comments) says:

    In adjusted dollar terms, I wonder how much Bob Jones spent. I wonder too, how much ACT benefactors have lent to the cause.

    Although I somewhat agree with you David, I can’t recall your concern over this matter presviously?

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  41. emmess (1,428 comments) says:

    Good on him. I hope he is successful. There’s no way the next government could be as corrupt at this one.

    If in the terrible event that a left wing government happen to win. It will already be hopelessly compromised as it will only be there as a result of a criminal activity on the part of Kim Dotcom.

    But it looks as if all his money could be going down the toilet. I would say he has spread the former support of Mana which was concentrated in Te Tai Tokerau much wider but at the expense of the depth in that seat.

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  42. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Are your eyes painted on IGM?

    Again – for the public record – I have not and would not EVER accept any financial contribution of any kind from Kim Dotcom.

    Got it?

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  43. Kimbo (934 comments) says:

    @ Brian Smaller

    Do you remember the old days when the left wing used to decry “big money” in politics as a corrupting influence?

    Umm, according to the ubiquitous publicwatchdog, it has never left.

    And with respect, isn’t “big money” in politics as a corrupting influence” the essential schtick of Labour, the Greens, Mana-Internet, Values, New Labour, the Alliance, The Progressives, Jim Anderton’s New Labour, the unions, the Poverty Action Group, the 99% Movement, John Pilger…

    Four legs good, Two legs bad!

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  44. Gravelroad (155 comments) says:

    So what return has Mr Dotcom received for his investment so far?
    High priced, opportunist ex- and current MP’s as staff?
    A few drunk students chanting f… John Key, burning effigies and vandalising property?
    Some nebulous, secret dealings for and against bloggers?

    Is that all?

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  45. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Upon what EVIDENCE do you base your ‘suspicions’ Alleyoopoop?

    Oh – that’s right – you anonymous gutless Kiwibloggers don’t ‘do’ FACTS and EVIDENCE – do you :)

    Keep going ……

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  46. CharlieBrown (1,011 comments) says:

    4 years ago would you have hated the guy so much? He donated money to right wing politicians and community events. Is it as much of a conspiracy that the national party are in cahoots with holywood and the fbi as it is he has formed a party to get out of extraditian? You are being hypocritical.

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  47. CharlieBrown (1,011 comments) says:

    Colville , i tend to think john key costs nz 13 billion a year with wastefull, interfering, oversized government. He has ruined the nats as being a center right party and turned it into a center left hypocritical nightmare.

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  48. Milk Me (157 comments) says:

    John Key did his absolute best to bankrupt this country in the making of his fortune. He should be hung for treason, his head put upon a stake and his body dragged along the streets behind a horse.

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  49. Richard (857 comments) says:

    When you’ve got a party that consists of paid staff instead of volunteers and paid candidates its no wonder Kim Dotcrim is having to spend his ill-gotten millions like water. It’s been an expensive year for him- legal fees, divorce settlement with the ex-wife and now millions on his own personal get-out -of-jail -free card in the form of InternetMana.

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  50. Milk Me (157 comments) says:

    Richard, and what would you do if you were in his situation? Surrender?
    The Beastie Boys had it right. ” You’ve got to fight for your right….to party!”

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  51. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    Classy, Milk Me …

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  52. Inthisdress (265 comments) says:

    If KDC wants to spend his money attempting to influence the running of the country, he’s perfectly entitled to do so. And many would agree with me.

    I think it is refreshing to see a millionaire openly trying to buy an election, rather than sticking it in secret trusts, and attempting to manipulate a political party by covertly purchasing the loyalty of its leader.

    Don’t you?

    And obviously that is not David Cunliffe’s position, but it is however, refreshing to see the majority of ‘left-thinking’ commentators coming out and endorsing the idea that a rich man like KDC should be perfectly entitled to rig an election by employing his cash and influence as leverage.

    But what intrigues me is: Where were all these progressive supporters of the freedom to use your cash to influence elections when Labour rammed through the Electoral Finanace Act under urgency? Surely they should have been shouting KDC’s right to do so from the rooftops, and calling out Labour and the Greens when they victimised the Exclusive Brethren.

    I suspect, however, they would have been up there with David (I won’t divulge who gave me the money) Cunliffe, haranguing The Exclusive Brethren for manning a few telephones and daring to release a pamphlet under Parliamentary priviledge mind, while taking advantage of hundreds of free man-hours of union cash and free-labour to support their sides of the argument.
    My point being that thre is a fair amount of hypocracy here from both sides of the political divide..

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  53. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    Did anyone else think it was bizarre that .com enrolled to vote at the time of voting, couldn’t he work out how to enrol on the internet or was he just demonstrating the process? Better things to with ones time, one would imagine.

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  54. Richard (857 comments) says:

    Well Mr Milk Me- If was dotcrim I’d own up to what I’d done. But then I’ve never been convicted of fraud, data espionage and embezzlement which he was in Germany nor have I ever faced charges of online piracy, racketeering, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, and conspiring to commit money laundering unlike Kim Dotcrim.

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  55. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    All this talk of Dotcom and copyright issues. I hear that Dotcom will be making the source code for the Mega site publically available so anyone can set up a clone site for free. We’ll all be mega billionaires when Dotcom does as he says Hollywood should do.

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  56. IGM (390 comments) says:

    Public Dog: You and Slobcom have a lot in common, in fact, you may be related.

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  57. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    “Oh – that’s right – you anonymous gutless Kiwibloggers don’t ‘do’ FACTS and EVIDENCE – do you”

    Penny, you are actually shameless. Already forgotten yesterday’s GD when you contorted yourself to avoid providing the FACTS? We know it is because you couldn’t, why not just admit it? It would earn you more respect than continued lies and hypocrisy.

    Maybe you could attempt to answer the questions now?

    That’s rhetorical by the way, you will change the subject and make some other unsubstantiated claim.

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  58. Sublime (295 comments) says:

    DPF: I think we all know why he is doing it.

    If I was in the sort of trouble he’s found himself in and I had that much cash, I’d do the same. You can’t take it with you! Especially not to Fort Leavenworth to hang with Chelsea Manning.

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  59. doggone7 (801 comments) says:

    Okay thumbs people, why the particular response?

    “Colin Craig has now spent $1.5 million trying to change the Government”

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  60. Griff (7,694 comments) says:

    Because crazy Colon has a lot of very confused conservonutter fan boys on here.

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  61. Unity (583 comments) says:

    He is a greasy big so and so and I hope he gets extradited after the election. It’s shockingly shameful what he and his cohorts are doing and laws need to be changed so that this never happens again. I can’t look at Dotcom, Harawira or Harre without feeling total disgust and contempt.

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  62. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    doggone7 – ““Colin Craig has now spent $1.5 million trying to change the Government””

    How much have the socialist unions spent of members fees on trying to change the government?

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  63. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    Brian – “Do you remember the old days when the left wing used to decry “big money” in politics as a corrupting influence?”

    You mean last week? Ahh, anything for the cause, Comrade. Anything for the cause.

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  64. Grant500 (22 comments) says:

    OneTrack – “How much have the socialist unions spent of members fees on trying to change the government?”
    This is a very good point. This is why the left always want compulsory unionism. I have always thought unions should be about looking after the workers rights and conditions and be politically neutral.
    Anyway after todays polls showing the Nats at 54% , krim.con will be soiling his oversize nappies. There will be payback I think. To quote a previous Nat leader I reckon he will be “gone by lunchtime”. As for Hager it remains to be seen if he can stay out of jail. The left always seem to think theft is alright if they are doing the stealing. Abiding by the law and being honest is for everyone else.

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