General Debate 2 September 2014

September 2nd, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Dennis Horne (2,371 comments) says:

    ELECTION 2014

    In breaking news the Whorald reports the Hon Judith Collins farted in the bath.

    Senior scribbler David Fish, ah, got wind of this breaking but is now trying to distance himself and remains tight-lipped.

    “I knew it”, howled Russel Norman, “I knew it,” he burbled, wallowing with pleasure, “It stinks and I call for a full bathtub and a severe towelling. Some people will think this story is a gas but it’s a green house gas, and as Greens it’s our business if it’s anyone’s business, not that jt seems to be business yet, but for us it’s business as usual. We’re not as green as we are cabbage-looking, you know.” And so on.

    David Cunliffe, mimicking a top dog in a bowler and bow wow tie, whimpered he was sorry, sorry and sorry but he was determined to get to the very bottom before floating to the top face down.

    “I smell a rat”, pontificated Winston Peters, “But it might be hiding in Peter Dunne’s coiffure, or mine.” He smirked, blowing his own trumpet and a boomerang kiss into the air.

    Jamie Whyte pondered the embouchure, and its relevance to the tone and everything. He wondered if it was worth bottling and the relationship to de embouteillage on Auckland roads. That sort of thing.

    Pita Sharples declared solemnly, to his people, that the election had been subject to far too many eructations (sic) already. He threw a handful of Quick-Eze in the air for his people. Mrs Malaprop snatched one out of thin air.

    “I’m gobsmacked, big gobsmacked,” snorted Cam Whale, who swims with the former minister, “I thought she was coming up for air. Give her more room. Or beans,she can count them, or on them.”

    The prime minister, the Rt Hon John Key, muttered under his breath, much more of this old bat shit and we’ll be up the creek without a paddle. (Where’s my whip when you need help?)

    Cathy Ogden whispered, “Can anyone give me a paddle, please, or a job? Talking about jobs, Judith, sorry!”

    Colin Craig did not say, “Can anyone give me a ‘job’.” Oh no, he’s a goody good two shoes and straight-laced. “She’s probably blown it, or not, I take a neutral view,” he kind of sniffed. He still couldn’t decide.

    Last but definitely least, Hone Harawira spat, “Guten morgen, we used to boil the paleface pig. That took the wind out of their sails and made them soft and easy to swallow. But now they are soft anyway and they swallow our line hook and sinker if we bait them enough. I got my teeth into a gross swine now and you’re all kaput. Kaput, swine! Verboten! Mach schnell! Mach schnell!”

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  2. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    A Vancouver real estate cheerleader crying ‘racist’? Don’t bother kow-towing in gratitude

    Last week, pro-development political consultant Bob Ransford used his column in the Vancouver Sun to draw a line between the debate over the city’s chronic housing unaffordability and anti-Chinese bigotry.

    Ransford, himself a former developer, even warned that raising questions about how to deal with the issue begins to “tread very close” to the racist anti-Chinese head tax.

    Speaking as an ethnic Chinese new immigrant to Vancouver, forgive me if I don’t kow-tow in gratitude, as Ransford tries to hose down timely debate on the impact of foreign money here. When a rich, white political consultant cries “racist” about Vancouver’s most pressing issue of equity and social justice, in a city with one of the lowest median incomes in Canada, it reeks of the worst kind of opportunism.

    Among the evidence are the correlational studies done by UBC professor David Ley, who literally wrote the book on the subject, Millionaire Migrants (2010). Ley found a ridiculously close +0.94 correlation between foreign migration to Vancouver and property prices over a 25-year period. “There are interest groups who are in denial [about the role of foreign money] and the moment that you or I make a suggestion we are immediately racist and this is how the discussion has been closed down,” Ley told me in March.

    Then there is the 2011 study by Landcor Data which pored over sales record to find that 74 per cent of luxury buyers in Richmond and the Westside had purely mainland Chinese names, with no Cantonese or English variants.

    An extraordinary situation (Vancouver’s housing unaffordability being the second-worst in the world behind Hong Kong), requires an extraordinary explanation.

    So, in what other way is Vancouver globally extraordinary, statistically speaking? That’s obvious – wealth migration. Vancouver is the most popular destination city for wealth-based migrants and would-be migrants in the world. Not London, not New York, and not Monaco.

    In the past eight years, more than 36,000 rich migrants moved to BC under the now-defunct millionaire migration scheme, which allowed people into Canada after handing over C$800,000 as a no-interest loan to the government.
    But actual admissions only reflect the speed at which visas can be issued. They don’t tell the whole story. Raw immigration data shows that in 2010 alone (the year Canada started clamping down on the scheme), there were 27,535 applications for millionaire visas for BC alone, 65 per cent of Canada’s total. Of these applicants, 92 per cent were Chinese.

    By comparison, the entire United States only received 6,517 applications last year for its famous wealth migration visa, the EB5 (in 2010 there were 1,955). In fact, applications by millionaire migrants to move to BC have outstripped all such applications to move to the US, Australia and Britain combined.

    http://www.scmp.com/comment/blogs/article/1525043/vancouver-real-estate-cheerleader-crying-racist-dont-bother-kow-towing
    I wonder what Professor Paul Spoonley (Royal Society) would say?

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  3. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    Poverty is a very complicated issue, but feeding a child isn’t.

    Jeff bridges.

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  4. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    Global house prices
    Location, location, location

    HOUSE prices are going through the roof. They are rising in 18 of the 23 economies that we track. And in eight of them, prices are increasing at a faster pace than three months ago. Yet there are also weak spots, particularly in Europe. Prices in Spain, which had one of the biggest property bubbles before the crisis, are still falling. They have kept declining in France and Italy too. In contrast, housing markets are buoyant in some northern European countries, notably Britain and Sweden, and especially so in their capital cities (see article).

    Since some form of recovery was bound to occur after the housing slump, how worrying are the renewed signs of exuberance? To assess whether house prices are at sustainable levels, we use two yardsticks. One is affordability, measured by the ratio of prices to income per person after tax. The other is the case for investing in housing, based on the ratio of house prices to rents, much as stockmarket investors look at the ratio of equity prices to earnings. If these gauges are higher than their historical averages then property is deemed overvalued; if they are lower, it is undervalued.

    Based on an average of these measures, houses are at least 25% overvalued in nine countries. Judged by rents, the most glaring examples are in Hong Kong, Canada and New Zealand. The overshoot in these economies and others bears an unhappy resemblance to the situation that prevailed in America at the height of its boom, just before the financial crisis. Explore the data in our interactive chart below (updated on August 27th 2014) and try to spot which bubble might pop next.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/11/global-house-prices?fsrc=nlw|newe|1-09-2014

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  5. kowtow (8,186 comments) says:

    Should one get a criminal conviction for being rude, extremely rude yes, but is it really a crime?

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/queenstown-lakes/314487/policewoman-denies-abuse

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  6. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    Sometimes the truth hurt$.

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  7. EAD (950 comments) says:

    Great article today by James Delingpole on the realities of mass immigration and mulitculturalism that all of our “big 3″ parties promote

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/01/Multiculturalism-what-the-liberal-left-would-prefer-you-not-to-know

    Some quotes:
    “Multiculturalism is a very specific political philosophy which could scarcely be further removed from the idea that we should live in one big, happy, multi-ethnic melting pot and all just get along. That’s because it means the exact opposite. It’s about separatism, not integration.

    Rather than accept the truth which to most of us is glaringly obvious – that some cultures are manifestly superior to others – it urges us all to celebrate our differences and to accept values that we may personally find alien or even abhorrent in the name of creating a fairer, more tolerant and inclusive society

    The failure of multiculturalism is not, of course, a new thing. Some of us have been warning for years that it is a disastrous policy for various obvious reasons: it militates against social cohesion; it violates the principle that all should be equal before the law and no groups – as contra the parallel Sharia courts now operating in Britain – should be singled out for special treatment; it strains Britain’s culture of tolerance to breaking point, while simultaneously diluting the national character and rejecting those qualities which once made (and still do make, up to a point) Britain such a desirable place to live

    But these sensible arguments against multiculturalism have often been drowned out by the liberal-left either with the cry of “racist” or through the more subtle, but no less effective methods of distraction and dissimulation.”

    DISTRACTION AND DISSIMULATION – these in particular especially seem to be in vogue at the moment by the political elite and MSM. You will see with your own eyes crowded hospitals and schools, people unable to communicate in our shared common language, over qualified taxi drivers and the pollies and MSM will still tell you “it’s good for economic growth” despite you being unable to afford a house in our inflated housing market and your wages under pressure from a ready supply of cheap labour that is propped up by generous government subsidies which you pay for from your taxes.

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  8. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    @ kowtow

    You find those attitudes in the tourist towns where people see what’s really going on.

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  9. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    EAD (829 comments) says:
    the liberal elite are swept up in a popular delusion that they can hold out against human nature and forge a new world order: “the lion shall lie down with the lamb” ;except that they won’t and we have to make do with what we have. Society functions better when members see themselves as belonging.

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  10. Dennis Horne (2,371 comments) says:

    Growing wealth is seen as a growing economy, but when it’s merely escalating house prices due to wealthy immigrants buying houses it’s actually nothing more than a chain letter. When it stops, those not holding the houses will have nothing and no prospect of anything.

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  11. Pete George (23,436 comments) says:

    Key shark bite yet to come?

    If @Whaledump hasn’t lied on Twitter and hasn’t lied to Nicky Hager and Hager hasn’t lied then all the signidicant politcal data has already been revealed.

    Considering that that main focus of Hager’s book was to nail John Key to the dirty politics mast – which hit failed to substantively do – it seems unlikely there’s a Key shark bite to come.

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  12. flash2846 (260 comments) says:

    This is perplexing:
    Politicians on all sides and the media say “New Zealand has 275,000 overweight and obese children. These children come from predominantly low socioeconomic families on welfare.
    Then Labour/Green politicians backed by the media claim that 250,000 children live in poverty. These children also come from low socioeconomic families predominantly on welfare.
    So that accounts for 425,000 children not including the majority of children who come from middle or upper socioeconomic families.
    So, just how many children under 14 years of age do we have? The 2013 census confirms 812,454 children (under 14) on census night.
    Let’s exaggerate and say as many as half our children are members of lower socioeconomic families (they would be their family’s source of income). That is less than the 425,000 obese and children in poverty claimed. Not buying obese folk in poverty of course.
    According to Labour/Greens and the media if they were to be believed, one could assume there are absolutely no normal children and by extension responsible parents in lower socioeconomic families. Perhaps that is the “crime”.

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  13. Other_Andy (2,576 comments) says:

    A whopping 95 percent of respondents to a BBC straw poll have said that they think multiculturalism in Britain is a failure.

    Multiculturalism is a very specific political philosophy which could scarcely be further removed from the idea that we should live in one big, happy, multi-ethnic melting pot and all just get along. That’s because it means the exact opposite. It’s about separatism, not integration.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/01/Multiculturalism-what-the-liberal-left-would-prefer-you-not-to-know
    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/31/95-percent-of-BBC-viewers-think-multiculturalism-has-failed

    Why isn’t this result surprising….?

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  14. WineOh (629 comments) says:

    At least the Kapiti council is now fronting up & saying that they erred. But how the hell did some bureaucrat get it into his/her head that prosecuting a couple in their mid-late 70’s for trimming a couple of trees on their private property with a qualified arbourist was a good idea? They didn’t even interview the tree trimmer, with nothing more than a passing discussion with the couple in question.

    And now they have thrown away $50K on an independent inquiry, to show that they have gone through due process.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/10448422/Tree-prosecutions-deemed-inappropriate

    [edit- added link to article]

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  15. Fisiani (1,025 comments) says:

    Advance polling opens tomorrow. Cast your vote for a the team that is unified , strong and competent. The sideshows are just splashes in the water but the only team heading in the right direction is TeamKey. The spending pledges of Labour/Greens /IM now add up to $36,000,000,000. That’s a staggering cost. Add in all the demands from the Greens for lost jobs in coal, gas , oil, minerals, farming, irrigation, roading and logging. The Greens will make up 30% of a Labour government. That’s 7 Green Ministers. No one can point out 7 Green candidates capable of being a Minister. Your country is at risk. Do your duty-Party Vote National.

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  16. KiwiGreg (3,234 comments) says:

    I dont think you can add those numbers together flash, they would be the same kids. I don’t have a view on the numbers or the claims.

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  17. kowtow (8,186 comments) says:

    And in other news from Bonkers Britain,the political elites think they can deprogram Muslims.What planet do these idiot politicians live on. It was the permament political elites who opened the gates to the barbarians.The answer is to expel them from Britain and end Muslim immigration.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11068878/British-jihadists-to-be-forced-to-attend-deradicalisation-programmes-says-Cameron.html

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  18. Paulus (2,602 comments) says:

    Mr Goff, Mr Goff – your nose must still be lengthening after the lies you told Espiner this morning.
    You said in effect that the former Director of the SIS was lying.
    You said in effect that you passed on confidential meeting notes from a low MFAT Labour Party staffer after a confidential meeting at which Don Brash was in discussion with the US Officials. And you were proud of it.
    I know that you are not as you have no moral or ethics as you have shown over the years.
    No wonder you got kicked out after the last disastrous election result for Labour.
    May be worse this time, not helped by hypocrites and liars.

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  19. IGM (237 comments) says:

    Paulus: Goff is very close to McCarten . . . enough said!

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  20. flash2846 (260 comments) says:

    @ KiwiGreg – Thanks, I should have made my point clear. It being that I don’t believe we have that many children in poverty. It’s an invented statistic that suits the left’s propaganda. We do however probably have that many fatties.

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  21. KiwiGreg (3,234 comments) says:

    Oh I agree with that flash. People who claim poverty in NZ either haven’t been to countries with real poverty or rely on arbitrary definitions (so that someone living in a house with Sky TV and a cellphone is in “poverty”).

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  22. labrator (1,837 comments) says:

    Well done to the Conservative Party for the best political leaflet I’ve received in the mail. Balanced, easy to consume and easy to understand their policies. I can’t remember reading “fair” or “equality” in it at all in relation to their stances which makes a welcome change.

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  23. stephieboy (2,693 comments) says:

    EAD and Other Andy,

    Multiculturalism a failure .? Yes in respect of Islamic Jihadist radicals and militants. Take away that element and you will likely get quite different poll on the merits or otherwise of multiculturalism

    A re Breibart and yourselves suggesting that we need to now live in separate ghettoized communities as in the old apartheid system in South Africa.?

    Clarify please.?

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  24. EAD (950 comments) says:

    @ Stephie

    No – it is saying that the state should not be promoting ideologies (formerly known as propaganda) that intentionally divides citizens against each other and fosters separatism and an all powerful state.

    PS: Your stupid comments are always good for a laugh!

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  25. Harriet (4,794 comments) says:

    “…..Multiculturalism a failure .? Yes in respect of Islamic Jihadist radicals and militants. Take away that element and you will likely get quite different poll on the merits or otherwise of multiculturalism….”

    Define “radicals and militants’.

    And does that include Muslim parents who cut off the ‘excitable bit’ from their 5yld and up daughters.

    Koreans eat dogs too by the way.

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  26. stephieboy (2,693 comments) says:

    EAD, In what ways are the British government currently promoting and deliberately advancing the interests of militant Islamic Jihadists and given David Cameron’s current measures against those who want to join ISIS in Syria and Iraq. ?

    PS would the willingness of our government to take a quota of Iraq Christian and Yazidi refugees sit comfortably with you given your hostility to multiculturalism .??

    Harriet, Koreans eat dogs .? Chinese too.!

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  27. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    My friends in Christchurch report that “Turtle” was down there making promises concerning how Labour would address the rebuild.

    He could not answer questions and ducked & dived by saying he would seek further advice.

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  28. EAD (950 comments) says:

    Fine by me as long as the government doesn’t refer to them as yazidi New Zealanders or Iraqi New Zealanders. Would you go to Islamic State and tell them to celebrate diversity and Christian culture?

    To show you just how much our political elite have destroyed our society, guess what country has provided the most ISIS fighters?……………that we’ll known Islamic hotbed of …………….Australia
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-01/where-do-isis-fighters-come

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  29. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    @ stephieboy (2,537 comments) says:

    This is the next move by apologists for multiculturalism: it is (only) Islam that is the problem.

    1. multiculturalism is achieved by increasing immigration into developed countries at the cost of the host society (according to SWG, Australian Productivity Commission, Paul Krugman etc)

    2. Diversity is the enemy of social cohesion. Putnam said on past experience it has taken 50 years to restore that cohesion.

    3. Modelling shows diversity is the enemy of social cohesion.

    4. Diversity is good in some circumstances but not as an end in itself.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_multiculturalism

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  30. Harriet (4,794 comments) says:

    stiffie boi#

    You can by ‘jihad wear’ at the markets in Sydney – the black balaclavas ect with the white arabic writing.

    Buying clothes does not define someone as ‘radical’ stephi.

    so answer my question – define ‘radical’.

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  31. stephieboy (2,693 comments) says:

    hj,

    in what ways have our diversity of e.g Chinese . Korean and Indian communities here are the enemies of social cohesion i ???

    Define radical.??

    Here for starters ,

    adjective

    (esp. of change or action) relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough : a radical overhaul of the existing regulatory framework.
    • forming an inherent or fundamental part of the nature of someone or something : the assumption of radical differences between the mental attributes of literate and nonliterate peoples.
    • (of surgery or medical treatment) thorough and intended to be completely curative.
    • characterized by departure from tradition; innovative or progressive : a radical approach to electoral reform.

    I do suspect some of you are advancing a white N Z styled policy.

    Clarify again please.?

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  32. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    Fisiani (994 comments) says:
    September 2nd, 2014 at 8:47 am

    Advance polling opens tomorrow. Cast your vote for a the team that is unified , strong and competent.
    ===========================

    That fella’s bin smoking some pw’erful shit this mornin.

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  33. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    in what ways have our diversity of e.g Chinese . Korean and Indian communities here are the enemies of social cohesion i ???
    ……
    The downside of diversity
    A Harvard political scientist finds that diversity hurts civic life. What happens when a liberal scholar unearths an inconvenient truth?

    But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam — famous for “Bowling Alone,” his 2000 book on declining civic engagement — has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings.

    “The extent of the effect is shocking,” says Scott Page, a University of Michigan political scientist.

    The study comes at a time when the future of the American melting pot is the focus of intense political debate, from immigration to race-based admissions to schools, and it poses challenges to advocates on all sides of the issues. The study is already being cited by some conservatives as proof of the harm large-scale immigration causes to the nation’s social fabric. But with demographic trends already pushing the nation inexorably toward greater diversity, the real question may yet lie ahead: how to handle the unsettling social changes that Putnam’s research predicts.

    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity

    The Paradox of Diverse Communities
    http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2013/11/paradox-diverse-communities/7614/

    Remember that Auckland is bursting at the seems, house prices are through the roof but elites on the left and right are “celebrating” the on going process of immigration. The effects are felt in the community as when the citizens of several blocks attend a zoning meeting and are told “and we have to have population growth to increase the wealth“.

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  34. oldpark (265 comments) says:

    @Paulus 8.57 am

    Yes Goff grubby little lying ratbag,everyone knows that GOFF is a liar.When the guy Darren Hughes Labour Party chief whip was accused of inappropriate actions.In Annette Kings house in Haitaitai,where a naked youth was seen running away from.Goff was asked about it,kept it secret and did a deal. It took three weeks before he couldn’t lie any more,the game was up for Goff the manifest liar. The guy Hughes was fasttracked out of NZ.The stench of that night in Haitaitai,still hangs over the Labour Party, and the nation of NZ IS STILL WAITING FOR WHAT HAPPENED,the truth is still hidden,just waiting to be revealed.Hopefully this side of the election.Hmmmm.Wonder will one of the lefty MSM ask the question from Goff.They wont ,they would if it was the National Party.

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  35. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    DISTINGUISHED PROFESSDR PAUL Spoonley
    has brought me to Auck1and’s Long Bay Park, the city’s most visited park. Attracting around 1.5 million people every year, it’s a microcosm of our country in general and our biggest city in particular, great groups of us spread across its shaded grass everyweekend.
    Spoonley is a sociologist by profession, but a people—Watcher by choice. He steadily interrupts himself to comment on people we pass by; who they are, what they’re doing, what they look like: “Those are Iranis or Iraqis… Pasifika over there on your right… Look at the height of this guy… What’s he doing hitchhiking like that?”
    When he can’t figure out where a group of people are from, he stops to ask. “Philippines,” says ayoung man, swatting away a fly.
    “This is a gateway city,” says Spoonley, walking on. “Basically two—thirds of all migrants come in to Auckland and stay in Auckland. You’ve got the earlier waves, Pasifika next to us here, and more recent waves. Some of these will be refugees, some of these will be business and skilled migrants.”
    The catalyst for the new New Zealand was the 1987 Immigration Act. Under it, immigration selection criteria changed from a focus on ease of assimilation into a white, Anglo—centric culture to a policy that most prized capital and skills.
    Two hundred and thirteen different ethnic groups now live in New Zealand. One in eight New Zealanders is an Asian. As recently as 2006, it was one in 11.
    Any city made up of more than 25 per cent ethnic migrants is known as ‘superdiverse’. Now at 40 per cent, Auckland is more diverse than Sydney, London or Los Angeles. The only city in the OECD with a higher proportion is Toronto.
    The dominant driver of that diversity has been migration from Asia. In 1991, about five per cent of Aucklanders were Asian. Today, it’s 23 per cent. Bythe 2o2os, Spoonley believes, it will be 27 or 28 per cent.
    That rapid influx has resulted in geogaphical distortions too. ‘Ethnoburbs’ or ‘ethnic precincts’ have arisen on Auckland’s North Shore and in East Auckland, where Asians are the dominant ethnic group.
    “When you look at the size and rapidity «fithe change,” says Spoonley, “it’s very, ‘wry unusual.” But at the same time, it has fipened relatively harmoniously. After an initial backlash in the 1990s, led by the publication of newspaper articles headlined ‘Inv-Asian’, and much political posturing, New Zealanders’ attitudes towards the Asian community have been generally and increasingly positive.
    But what do we mean when we sayAsian? Asia is made up of 50 countries, among them Tajikistan, Mongolia, Bhutan, the Maldives, Pakistan, Iran, Brunei, Georgia, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
    “Asia is a complete nonsense term,” says migration studies specialist Professor Richard Bedford. “It spans 60 per cent of the world’s population and most would never call themselves Asian. “New Zealand is developing a trend of havingwide group labels,” he says. “We are going to have to change that thinking or we will run ourselves into trouble.”
    Bedford is concerned that our country’s growing focus on Asia will lead to a risk that we will ignore developments closer to home, in Australia and the Pacific Islands.
    Although, again, what does it mean to be from the ‘Pacific Islands’? In 2001, Pacific studies lecturer Melani Anae wrote: “There’s no generic ‘Pacific community’
    but rather Pacific peoples,who align themselves variously, and at different times, along ethnic, geographic, church, family, school, age/gender, youth/elders, island born/NZ born, or occupational lines, or a mix of these.”
    We have to be careful with stereotypes, says Bedford: Tonga is said to have the world’s highest number of PhDs per capita; migration from Fiji is booming and most come under the skilled migrant category; of 61,000 Cook Islanders in New Zealand, 47,000 were born here.
    “People do struggle because of stereotyping. There’s a lot of discrimination in the labour market,” he says. “If you are subject to negative stereotypes and come to believe you are an underclass, it breeds behaviours—you don’t feel you have any hope. It might mean crime or drugs. If you are denied Work, you still have to live. It’s hard to break out of a stereotype.”
    Paul Spoonley steers us out into the strange hinterland of Auckland’s north, the ravaged landscape of what was once the city’s urban fringe and is nowboth one of the country’s fastest-growing residential areas and a symptom of its change.
    We cross a short green buffer zone created by developers who have spent almost two years reshaping its contours and preparing it for the 2500 houses that will soonbe built there. Asian buildingcrews— “Look at the gloves,” says Spoonley—work out the front of sections that will soon extend deep into what was so recently farmland.
    “There are some interesting things about these developments,” he says. “There are no dairies. There’s no shopping. Normally in a development like this you would have facilities, but there’s nothing.”
    Nearby, parts of the area around Oteha Valley Road are more developed, heavy with gated communities, often targeted at older residents. “This is intensive housingAuck1and-style in the 21st century,” says Spoonley. “You have got these very distinctive housing developments beginning to occur. But look for a dairy. Look for anything that provides a service function. There’s nothing.
    “These have all been built in the last three or four months,” he says, gesturing with his hands as we drive past an improbably large cluster of houses; “Choom— choom—choom—choom.”

    NZ Geographic
    All A Big Experiment – at our expense.
    Multiculturalists on the left -Developers on the Right.

    and the Savings Working Group says Hold your Horses

    – Serious consideration of the impact of the level and variability of immigration on national saving, and the impact that this might have on the living standards of New Zealanders. There are indications that our high immigration rate has pushed up government spending, house prices and business borrowing.
    -

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf

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  36. Yoza (1,778 comments) says:

    RF (1,345 comments) says:
    September 2nd, 2014 at 9:42 am

    My friends in Christchurch report that “Turtle” was down there making promises concerning how Labour would address the rebuild.

    Small thing you may have missed, #TeamKey’s attack network have been outed pouring scorn on Christchurch earthquake victims and calling them “scum”. Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics should be compulsory reading for anyone not wanting to embarrass themselves in the blogosphere.

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  37. wiseowl (861 comments) says:

    Stiffie Boy .
    You immediately jump to ‘white’ when the argument is about culture.

    It can be seen quite clearly that this idealistic, dreamy, wonderworld that politicians want to impose on us is a myth.
    It does not work.

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  38. EAD (950 comments) says:

    America’s greatest President that never was, slams America’s worst President there ever was:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-01/ron-paul-perhaps-obamas-lack-strategy-glimmer-hope

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  39. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    stephieboy (2,539 comments) says:
    September 2nd, 2014 at 9:57 am

    hj,

    in what ways have our diversity of e.g Chinese . Korean and Indian communities here are the enemies of social cohesion i ???

    Define radical.??
    …..
    I don’t need to define radical to make my case. I just appeal to evolution.

    A key mechanism facilitating such in-group cooperation is ethnocentrism, the tendency to view one’s own group as centrally important and as superior to other groups. Ethnocentrism manifests itself in positive valuation of (members of) one’s in-group. Such in-group favoritism signals loyalty and positive commitment to the group, thus rendering the ethnocentric individual a reliable and trustworthy partner. Ethnocentrism may also show up in negative valuation of (members of) out-groups. Such out-group derogation signals to in-group members who should be excluded from in-group resources and exchanges, and reduces the probability that in-group resources are inadvertently extended to out-groups (1–6).

    If in-group favoritism and out-group derogation have adaptive value and sustain in-group functioning, coordination, and cooperation, it follows that (i) throughout evolution those individuals who displayed in-group favoritism and out-group derogation and who detected such tendencies in others were more likely to spread than individuals lacking these capacities (5–8) and (ii) the human brain may have evolved to sustain ethnocentrism through yet-unknown neurobiological systems

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029708/

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  40. Redbaiter (8,350 comments) says:

    The establishment National Party in NZ (and that includes Cam Slater and his prog friends) stand for big government, crony capitalism & stopping limited government Conservatives.

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  41. Redbaiter (8,350 comments) says:

    John Key’s Chinese Communist Party friends have plainly violated the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration on Hong Kong autonomy.

    if we had some courageous men in govt, they would now be advocating for the return of Hong Kong to UK sovereignty.

    Instead we kowtow to these anti-democratic communist thugs because we are held to ransom by unaffordable social welfare policies and massive govt budgets.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/beijing-plays-hardball-over-hong-kong-democracy-2014-08-31?siteid=rss&rss=1

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  42. Jack5 (5,014 comments) says:

    The Western world is gearing up to protect itself from returning ISIS terrorists.

    New Zealand sees to be doing nothing, despite Auckland and Christchurch mosques being allegedly involved in converting moderates into extremists (note Australian claims Australian-citizen jihadists killed in Yemen were radicalised in Christchurch, a claim for which the Christchurch Press seems to have accepted the mosque’s claim it was lies).

    Will we wait for someone’s head to be sawn off in Queen Street or Cathedral Square?

    What Britain is doing:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29008316

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  43. Redbaiter (8,350 comments) says:

    5 steps to impose socialism upon any country you like. (see USA for good example)

    1 Dumb down schools

    2 Make elections about trivia

    3 Print money to buy votes

    4 Demonize rich & successful

    5 Engage in widespread vote fraud

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  44. Redbaiter (8,350 comments) says:

    Progs can sneer and smear as much as they like about Sarah Palin, but I’m telling you this. She had Barack Hussein Obama’s number. BOY DID SHE. Take a bow Sarah, you were right

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  45. oldpark (265 comments) says:

    Now that we are into old allegedly hidden events of 2011.That being the case we need a royal commission on the crime scene of ANNETTE KINGS house in Haitaitai March 2011.Thats where Labour’s chief whip and a young Labour youth had an alleged life changing event.The youth was seem
    running from the house and stopped by police.Goff and King tried to keep it quiet.In the meantime Labour’s Darren Hughes was fast tracked to London.The unanswered question was why was Hughes allowed by Police to leave NZ.After all if nothing inappropriate happened ,why did he resign from Labour Party. Perhaps Labour’s Goff and King could give some answers and connect the dots.After all I keep hearing the sanctimonious Cunliffe and all his sycophants talking about being so called positive.Yes lets get positive,and tell us why Darren Hughes was fast tracked to London.Be positive, about the cover up by King and Goff ,and the holier than thou Labour Party.

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  46. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    this child poverty bullshit can piss off.

    totally over the old “its not their fault for being born, we just need to keep giving more and more money to solo mums with 8 kids”

    i agree. so lets remove the kids, get em somewhere nicer and feed em and the women can go into a work camp.

    then lets see how many solo mums on the bene decide to chuck out child number 3, 4, 5, 6…

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  47. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    Oldpark – i think the problem was that it was a naked boy seen running away.. and the MP is question is a bloke. kinda makes it a gay issue and super citizens should never be prosecuted.

    if it had have been a female running…

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  48. Yogibear (361 comments) says:

    I listened to the Goff interview on morning report this morning.

    All I had was a mental image of Phil in a tutu dancing on the head of a pin that was shrinking remarkably quickly.

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  49. Yvette (2,766 comments) says:

    Journalist integrity and honesty
    Shouldn’t the Herald be checking with Cameron Slater to at least determine if the stolen electronic communications they have belonging to him and which they keep publishing without his permission, are in fact forgeries or not?
    Have the main stream media no bloody standards?

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  50. lilman (951 comments) says:

    Just saw the thread on Phil Goff,I was sick in my mouth.

    Lying scumbag.

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  51. publicwatchdog (2,516 comments) says:

    Anyone going to seize the moment and ask UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon
    while he’s in NZ – how come NZ hasn’t yet ratified the UN Convention Against Corruption?

    And how – with the growing number of historic and unprecedented corruption scandals rocking NZ to the core – how meaningful is the Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’ that NZ keeps topping – year after year?

    Still waiting for a press release from the NZ Government funded Transparency International NZ to say something – anything –

    on this ongoing unravelling of dirty and despicable corruption scandals?

    Penny Bright

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  52. Milburn35 (23 comments) says:

    Defining poverty for the middle class could be defined as follows: Only owning one car. Sky TV in one room only. No bedroom TV. Not having the latest cell phone, and I-Pad. Only having copper broadband, not fibre optic. No beer fridge. Only having one overseas holiday a year. Only having one child. Not being able to afford the top private school for your child. No Working for Families tax credits. Only one household income over $100K.Having a mortgage in Auckland. Dining out only once a week. No home gym equipment. How a Government can ignore the middle class leaves much to be desired.

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  53. graham (2,332 comments) says:

    Go for gold, Penny, you go ahead and ask Ban Ki-Moon. All power to you.

    Just one point …

    Don’t try and pretend that you somehow “represent the wider New Zealand public”. You don’t. Not now, not ever.

    But feel free to ask ON YOUR OWN BEHALF.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Watching the Watchdog.

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  54. lilman (951 comments) says:

    Also on Whale il in a segment in which David Cunliffe dared Slater to release any or all info regarding his party or MPs,,I see Slater made mention of this statement.

    A Staffer who has been briefing against a senior party figure for allegedly having too much interest in little boys bums.

    Serious stuff,will Cunliffe do the right thing and at least investigate this as it is by far and a way the sickest of sick acts.

    If not then Cunliffe is a disgrace,pure and simple.

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  55. Willow11 (5 comments) says:

    Did anyone else see the article from that Snowden person (wikileaks) on the yahoo website front page this morning saying NZ implicated in spying on Turkey – apparently the US has been spying on Turkey since 2006 and shared the information with a number of its allies including NZ. I went back to double check and lo and behold it’s been removed and it’s not on Stuff either!! 2006 hmm didn’t we have a Labour government at that time.

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  56. Pete George (23,436 comments) says:

    This could be another messy diversion – PM rubbishes fresh accusations of dirty politics

    John Key’s rejecting claims his chief of staff tried to intervene in a government contract, to knobble a foe and instead get the jobs for a friend.

    Matthew Hooton says Wayne Eagleson’s contacted his clients, including the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority, urging them not to give him work – and even suggesting they hire lobbyist Mark Unsworth instead.

    John Key says the claims are rubbish, after seeking assurances from Mr Eagleson and CERA Minister Gerry Brownlee.

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/541591437-pm-rubbishes-fresh-accusations-of-dirty-politics

    A personal or business spat? I’m getting very suspicious of the motives of paid PR hacks.

    Hooton has been busy dissing Key and National and promoting Cunliffe as PM by the end of the year.

    He also tweeted this morning:

    @MatthewHootonNZ

    Friends from @ninetonoon say they have new angle on SIS etc after 9am @radionz news. But hearing too many rumours these days to know if true.

    Good point @gtiso Have heard they have big new angle but am now operating with skepticism after hearing so much crap over w/end.

    Hooton was a part of the weekend’s crapfest.

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  57. oldpark (265 comments) says:

    Another sanctimonious story to be remembered by so called” positive” Labour.David Parker,Labours so called goodie twoshoes,where butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth.I was directed to a story in NZ Herald March 2006.That was when Parker was Labours Attorney General He was caught filing a false declaration ,and lying on company documents,a crime punishable by 5 years in JAIL and $200,000 FINE.Yet I see he has gone to the Police with some mealy mouth claims against the National Party.What a lying cheating hypocrite,to think ,a ratbag like that can still be in the so called position, demanding to vote positive.Parker should with his claims to police,be careful what he is wishing.Check out Parkers crime and caught in the headlights.Amazing he wasn’t dumped by Clark for his crooked actions.Of course why would she,that type of thing of misleading the nation ,runs in Labour Party’s DNA.Http//www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/n

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  58. UrbanNeocolonialist (277 comments) says:

    Regarding multiculturalism, I am OK with pretty much anyone who will have children that will be fully integrated to the point where they will marry other average kiwis. Religion seems to be the major barrier to that as it uses fear of being cut off from family to force conformity with parents culture. Islam, fundamentalist Christianity, and female-controlling misogyny of some other 3rd world cultures is inimical to integration in NZ, and we should limit such groups from immigrating and do everything we can to drive the integration of those already here.

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  59. minus (174 comments) says:

    Further to lilman 11:19

    “Today David Cunliffe challenged me to release information obtained from Labour people. I am not sure if this is a good idea either for David or Labour.”
    – Cameron Slater

    Who lists as possible items –
    • the two mystery donors to his leadership campaign trust [or six month secret loan]
    • the identities of all the anonymous bloggers on the government payroll that blog for the Standard.
    • a leadership opponents spouse’s corruption problems
    • details of the financial position of Labour
    a senior party figure for allegedly having too much interest in little boys bums
    the senior politician who ended a two year affair because the election was coming up
    • the plans to sandbag Cunliffe during the campaign so he can’t make Prime Minister
    • the woman Trevor Mallard was having an affair with when he busted Don Brash and Dianne Foreman

    And Cunliffe doesn’t seem to confine his challenge to issues prior to January, which is when the hacker “Rawshark” acted.

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  60. edhunter (535 comments) says:

    From an article on stuff today:
    US authorities have been cracking down on hacking and phone tapping, especially in Hollywood.

    In 2012 a hacker was sentenced to 10 years in jail after posting nude photos of Scarlett Johannson and Mila Kunis and hacking a number of celebrity email accounts for more than a year.

    I wonder how the police investigation here is going? Would love to see some big sentences handed down.

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  61. oldpark (265 comments) says:

    @minus

    Wonder what Cunliffe would say,if he was given the facts about a Senior Labour Politician,who Cunliffe knows very well.Was into Chinese Takeaways. Maybe Mallard would leak it.Only because the senior politician,pulled rank on Mallard,who has been left eating old, so called leather boots.

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  62. Fletch (6,256 comments) says:

    oldpark @12.01 –

    Yeh, and from what I remember, Helen held on to Parker for dear life – wouldn’t sack him. In the end he was “exonerated” by some random letter that magically appeared from nowhere with the wrong letterhead etc.

    People talk about John Key not sacking Collins, but look at Helen with Philip Taito Field. She did everything she could to hang on to him also, even when the evidence was stacked up against him, and for a much worse crime than anything Collins is accused of.

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  63. Fletch (6,256 comments) says:

    oldpark @12.01 –

    Yeh, and from what I remember, Helen held on to Parker for dear life – wouldn’t sack him. In the end he was “exonerated” by some random letter that magically appeared from nowhere with the wrong letterhead etc.

    People talk about John Key not sacking Collins, but look at Helen with Philip Taito Field. She did everything she could to hang on to him also, even when the evidence was stacked up against him, and for a much worse crime than anything Collins is accused of….

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  64. Gulag1917 (857 comments) says:

    Clive Palmer Australia legal battles against Civic Pacific.
    Civic Pacific is in reality a financial department of the Communist government of China!

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  65. Fletch (6,256 comments) says:

    My comments don’t seem to be appearing….

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  66. Fletch (6,256 comments) says:

    oldpark @12.01 –

    Yeh, and from what I remember, Clark held on to Parker for dear life – wouldn’t sack him. In the end he was “exonerated” by some random letter that magically appeared from nowhere with the wrong letterhead etc.

    People talk about John Key not sacking Collins, but look at Clark with Philip Taito Field. She did everything she could to avoid giving him the sack, even when the evidence was stacked up against him, and for a much worse crime than anything Collins is accused of.

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  67. Fletch (6,256 comments) says:

    R.I.P Jimi Jamison, lead singer for Survivor.

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  68. Gulag1917 (857 comments) says:

    We’re ill-prepared if the iceman cometh
    WHAT if David Archibald’s book The Twilight of Abundance: Why Life in the 21st Century Will Be Nasty, Brutish, and Short turns out to be right? What if the past 50 years of peace, cheap energy, abundant food, global economic growth and population explosion have been due to a temporary climate phenomenon?
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/were-illprepared-if-the-iceman-cometh/story-e6frg6zo-1227023489894

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  69. Black with a Vengeance (1,787 comments) says:

    Doesn’t Slater care that the dirt he dishes on Labour sticks to Key, as one will question where the information comes from, given Key has already admitted to phoning him 4 times a year and texting on other matters, all the while, the PM’s office tailors, and expedites in record time, OIA requests for him ?

    Guess not. It’s seems all about rolling in the shit and filth. That, it appears, is the real fun.

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  70. Ross12 (1,388 comments) says:

    PG @12.01

    If National win then Hooten will be having to off shore to get work. I think work Wellington will dry up.

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  71. stephieboy (2,693 comments) says:

    EAD, yes Obama maybe the worse president the US has ever had but Ron Paul certainly wont be the greatest the US will never have.

    Paul polled poorly in the two presidential primaries he entered so was rejected outright by rank and file Republican voters as to extreme and rather weird.

    He seems to like the idea of a Christian theocracy ii.e a strong church and a weak state ( never mind separation of powers )in keeping with his radical views on state rights . This carries over to to homosexuality and he really doesn’t believe in the right to privacy especially when it comes to gays.There are only state rights . Weird again

    He supports Pastor Philip Kayser who wants the death penalty for homos but on the hand hand wan’t to abolish the death penalty at Federal level. But at state level. Well uum. ?

    There is also controversy over Ron Paul supporting extremist groups like Stom front and Neo nazi groups. Despite claims to the contrary he has not actually distanced himself from them.

    Not surprisingly he is of the Austrian School mooonbat persuasion with crazy gold standard ideas, a climate change denier and something of a creationist .and on it goes.

    Seems he would easily cohabit with the Conservative party and the likes of you.

    The President that the US is most fortunate to never ever had.!

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ron_Pau

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  72. oldpark (265 comments) says:

    @PG 12 01

    You are on the button regarding Hooton.He got too close to the leffto sickos and got tainted by them.Now he is crying wolf ,throwing his toys out of the cot.Even worse he looks like he could be suffering from small man syndrome.Hell hath no fury for a wee short arsed man scorned.Have listened to him,when good old John Tamihere was in full flight,always thought Hooton was the type who would run with the left.Was just a matter of time.With a name like Hooton he acts like Putin,another wee small arse hole.What an indictment of a National Party supporter who never was.Seems he was the enemy within.Reading his comments he is desperate for traction,from anyone who wants to hold his sweaty palm.

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  73. wiseowl (861 comments) says:

    Labour are saying they will review the NZ Flag.

    Such a shame that we don’t have a National Party leader that can say leave the flag alone.

    Progressives suck.

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  74. Jack5 (5,014 comments) says:

    What wiseowl posted at 3.08.

    Labour would scrap the NZ flag! And the Greens would, too.

    No referendum, just the scum left inflicting their symbols on us.

    What do your reckon it would be? A green feather instead of a white one? A white feather on a green background?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/policies/10451013/Labour-backs-national-flag-review

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  75. ShawnLH (4,482 comments) says:

    “He seems to like the idea of a Christian theocracy ii.e a strong church and a weak state”

    Theocracy means rule by clerics. A strong Church and a weak state would not be a theocracy.

    Paul is a libertarian, so would not be at home in the Conservative Party.

    There are issues Paul can be strongly critiqued for, but he’s not a conservative.

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  76. Jinky (183 comments) says:

    Oldpark. The reason that nothing happened about the Darren Hughes incident was that the young man in question declined to speak to Police. As nobody faced charges and we presume “innocent until PROVEN guilty” it was all hushed up. Darren gave in his notice and moved on. He’s now back in Wellington AFAIK.

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  77. ShawnLH (4,482 comments) says:

    The Gold standard idea is not loony, it was the norm for much of the West at one time. It is however a bad idea to go back to, because it does not work in practice, and would create far more problems than it might solve.

    Paul’s foreign and defense policies are just plain dumb. They assume that we are still living in the 17th century, where nuclear weapons, global terrorist networks and chemical/biological weapons don’t exist.

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  78. Zapper (1,015 comments) says:

    Green and Labour’s new flag might as well just be a white flag

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  79. kowtow (8,186 comments) says:

    “Labour are saying they will review the NZ Flag.

    Such a shame that we don’t have a National Party leader that can say leave the flag alone.

    Progressives suck.”

    The permanent political elites have let the people down across the former democratic west.

    I am now staunchly for direct democracy like they have in Switzerland. It keeps the fuckin’ pollies in their place.

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  80. goldnkiwi (1,264 comments) says:

    They do not seem to have published any naked photos of Whale, next time he should ensure that there are some. ;) That would learn them!!!

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  81. Gulag1917 (857 comments) says:

    Google “We’re ill-prepared if the iceman cometh” for the full article.

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  82. Gulag1917 (857 comments) says:

    The logic
    Feminists oppose rape prevention nail polish

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  83. Gulag1917 (857 comments) says:

    “He seems to like the idea of a Christian theocracy ii.e a strong church and a weak state ”
    “seems” an assumption not necessarily a fact.

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  84. Black with a Vengeance (1,787 comments) says:

    Ditching the Union Jack on our flag is long overdue.

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  85. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    David Cunliffe has announced he will be voting tomorrow as soon as early voting opens.
    I guess he’s terrified he may change his mind!

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  86. Fletch (6,256 comments) says:

    I’ve noticed a thing on this board, and the One News facebook page etc.. Don’t mention H3L3N Cl4RK critically in conjunction with P4RK3R and FI3LD, or the comment will be hidden or deleted. Why is that?

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  87. Distilled essence of NZ (78 comments) says:

    What do your stars say? I got same sage advice from this website, and was thinking other like minds here could benefit from it:

    TODAY’S BIRTHDAY (Sept. 1)

    You’re an individual acting rationally in your own self-interest in the marketplace, and today you will really reap the rewards of this. No, you’re not getting a pay-rise, those are for CEOs and corporate lobbyists. The company you work for has now made union-membership voluntary rather than mandatory. Choice is your right as a free-thinking individual, and now you can negotiate your contracts directly with your employer and individually taylor it to your personal needs! You are powerful and should not listen to those who try to drag you down with the implication you may instead be at the mercy of the powerful. As McDonalds is in the ascendance, some of you will feel the powerful guiding force of the hand of the Free Market more strongly. Take heed though, the Nanny State hides in the shadows. Don’t rely on others to support you, that is amoral.

    http://theinterrogative.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/neo-liberal-horoscopes/

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  88. Sporteone (36 comments) says:

    Winston must be rubbing his hands with glee, that no-one is actually investigating his claims of last week about Judith Collins. I listened to two interviews by Winston and in each of the interviews he changed his story. The best one was with Saun Plunket on Friday. Peters has made up another story and by the looks of it will get away with it. Even when Saun asked him to divulge the person or it should be persons now, who asked him if he could work with Judith Collins if JK wouldn’t, he said he would because of confidentiality. Bollocks I say. Winston you tell untruths and I am pleased Judith Collins has called you a fibber, well a bit stronger language than that was used.

    You are a disgrace Winston and should have been gone after you were found guilty of misleading the house. Just as Goff should be brought before the privileges committee for for also misleading the house about the briefing. Oh that’s right, you sanctimonious little twerp, you got caught out there by Slater.

    Why has the media gone quiet on Winston’s allegation.

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  89. big bruv (13,686 comments) says:

    What the fuck is wrong with the people who run TVNZ (aka Labour party TV)?

    All the rape, pillage and murder in the world yet the third story on tonight’s news was about the NZ rugby team not being the star turn in an English TV advert for some minor sporting tournament due to be played next year.

    Why do we really think that the world should kiss our backsides because of a rugby team?

    Sometimes it is really embarrassing being a Kiwi.

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  90. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    Well fuck me. Ban Ki-Moon visits with John Key less than a month out from a general election.

    And some of you guys think the UN are a bunch of commies. Lol.

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbnat/227399127-ban-ki-moon-visits-nz

    I think we know who the rest of the world wants to win the election.

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  91. tom hunter (4,704 comments) says:

    What the fuck is wrong with the people who run TVNZ

    Well I’m streaming the PBS News Hour as we speak, so I’m getting fairly solid coverage of Ukraine and Pakistan. Quite lefty itself of course but far, far superior to TVNZ in terms of depth.

    Stop watching TVNZ. It’s the only way you’ll have an impact.

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  92. Sublime (241 comments) says:

    Oldpark: Now that we are into old allegedly hidden events of 2011

    Remember Richard Worth? Jacinda and co. immediately demanded to know what happened. For Worth, in the court of public opinion, all bets were off.

    Not so for Hughes. Whisked away, kept private and thoroughly shushed up. If you don’t like principles then I have others etc.

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  93. Black with a Vengeance (1,787 comments) says:

    http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10451694/Policewoman-found-guilty-of-racial-abuse

    Cops racist ?

    Well i’ll be damned !

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  94. wreck1080 (3,858 comments) says:

    haa ha, i reckon john key is handing cunliffe a good ass whuppin !!!!

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  95. Shawn Herles (4,482 comments) says:

    BB,

    I don’t have your issue with the All Blacks, but I do agree that the NZ media is appallingly shallow and tends to be very parochial. It used to bug the hell out of me that the news already has a sports section, yet sports “news” will still be dealt with as headline news. I stopped watching TVNZ and TV3 a few years back. Tom is right. Even biased left media overseas tends to be far more professional than NZ news media.

    Switch it off or turn the channel and get an hour of your life back everyday. You won’t regret it.

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  96. lilman (951 comments) says:

    Shit cunliffe will be pissing blood for a month after this rodgering.

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  97. wreck1080 (3,858 comments) says:

    cunliffe stated that nz has no cgt … key reminded him that house speculators do have to pay cgt.

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  98. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    Yen’s dive leads Australian dollar below US93¢

    The local currency started its downward dip shortly after 11am AEST, dropping from US93.35¢ in early morning trade to US92.85¢ within 30 minutes as it shadowed a similar drop in the Japanese currency against the greenback.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/currencies/yens-dive-leads-australian-dollar-below-us93162-20140902-10bgr4.html#ixzz3C8x6q1qy

    The fall in the Australian dollar also came ahead of the Reserve Bank’s widely expected decision to keep the cash rate on hold for a 12th consecutive meeting.

    In his statement explaining the decision, governor Glenn Stevens reiterated the currency remains too high.

    “The exchange rate … remains above most estimates of its fundamental value, particularly given the declines in key commodity prices. It is offering less assistance than would normally be expected in achieving balanced growth in the economy,” Mr Stevens said.

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  99. nasska (11,185 comments) says:

    One night, after a couple had retired for the night, the woman
    became aware that her husband was touching her in a most
    unusual manner. He started by running his hand across her
    shoulders and the small of her back.

    He then ran his hand over her breasts, touching them very lightly.
    Then he proceeded to run his hand gently down her side,
    sliding his hand over her stomach, and then down the other
    side to a point below her waist.

    He continued on, gently feeling her hips, first one side then the
    other. His hand ran further down the outside of her thighs. His
    gentle probing then started up the inside of her left thigh,
    stopped and then returned to do the same to her right thigh.

    By this time the woman was becoming aroused and she
    squirmed a little to better position herself.

    The man stopped abruptly and rolled over to his side of
    the bed.

    “Why are you stopping darling?” she whispered breathlessly.

    He whispered back, “I found the remote.”

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  100. johnwellingtonwells (137 comments) says:

    David Cameron has been banned from buying duty-free – at an airport in the eastern Russian city of Vladivostok.

    A sign written in English and posted outside a shop at the international gateway says the UK prime minister and several other western leaders, including US president Barack Obama and German chancellor Angela Merkel, won’t be served.

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  101. EAD (950 comments) says:

    Interesting Viking2 8.08am:

    I think we are in the middle of the eye of the biggest economic storm about to hit the world as the fiat money regime teeters on the edge of apocalypse.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-01/asian-property-prices-are-falling-if-theres-global-financial-crisis

    If you think that’s hyperbolic, then may I politely suggest that you do not read my link, go check out some mainstream news source and be assured that everything is fine, NZ has a “rock star” economy and that the government loves you and wants only the best from you……..

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  102. Sublime (241 comments) says:

    “At some point, I will be able to tell you what happened.”

    From Whale earlier today, titled “There are two sides to every story”. Interesting.

    Also, I eagerly await the results of the police investigation into the hacking of Whale’s email and SM accounts. INAL so I don’t know the exact specifics of it all, but the material Fisher and Nippert are using – straight from the hacker – would be material that was obtained outside of the law. They or their outlets may find themselves in the sights of the law before too long.

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  103. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    JK dealing to cunliffe on the stuff debate imho.

    it pisses me off in these things that every point seems to be seen as worth the same as others..

    the terrifying point is 5 new taxes and 20 billion of new expenditure.

    apparently we cant mine in northland cause the maoris dont want it… lucky there is no whitey in northland eh cunliffe. fuck off.

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  104. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    cunliffe also mentioned 5 year olds in hokitika going to school with no breaky.. cause they dont have a job.

    harsh, no 5 year old should have a job

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  105. MT_Tinman (3,102 comments) says:

    big bruv (13,571 comments) says:
    September 2nd, 2014 at 6:23 pm
    What the fuck is wrong with the people who run TVNZ (aka Labour party TV)?

    All the rape, pillage and murder in the world yet the third story on tonight’s news was about the NZ rugby team not being the star turn in an English TV advert for some minor sporting tournament due to be played next year.

    Why do we really think that the world should kiss our backsides because of a rugby team?

    Sometimes it is really embarrassing being a Kiwi.

    You choose to watch this crap.

    Paying for it is bad enough.

    I have no sympathy!

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  106. Sublime (241 comments) says:

    Dime: apparently we cant mine in northland

    LOL. Didn’t he harp on last debate about the young bloke who went over to the mines in Australia cause he couldn’t get the right sort of work in NZ!? The irony is a thing of beauty :D

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  107. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    sublime – yeah lol

    hes doing a lot of pointing tonight. that will be a chick puller lol

    hes just screaming now.

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  108. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    What’s even sadder is that I heard some dick from the useless Tall Blacks saying how the opposition were ignoring their haka.

    Useless fuckin losers. Win a game and your stupid spear dance might get taken notice of!

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  109. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    cunliffe – the cathedral isnt just a church building lol fuck off you socialist prick

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  110. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    Cunliffe – there isnt anything special about an economy with 250,000 children in poverty… met with nothing but groans from the cantabs

    “we will not accept that half the workforce didnt get a pay rise lastyear, thats why we are raising the minimum wage” – lol didnt national raise the min wage last year? moron

    “all labours policies are banked and paid for” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    in terms of cheers – 2 to 1 to JK. not bad in a town being rebuilt. sitting govts always gonna cop it

    2 secs ago it was 73% jk victory.. now 65%.. lefties everywhere voting early an often!

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  111. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    votes now 50/50 on who won. Dime smells a rat.

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  112. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Peter Dunne has just signed up with BDS to boycott Israel

    Fuck you Dunne and fuck United Future

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  113. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Netanyahu will be shattered. He was about to ask Peter for the name of his wig maker! :)

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  114. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    The son of a preacher man !!

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  115. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    The Press leaders debate was a much better debate than the TVNZ one. Probably was helped by Mike Hosking not being there for starters.

    DC again put up a spirited effort but tends to sound sanctimonious too often. JK has a deeper understanding of the complexity of policy issues but can sound like an over excited schoolboy sometimes. An important moment was when JK asked DC about capital tax on homes that are included in trusts. DC simply didn’t have enough understanding of the tax system and his own policy to give an answer. Not a good look.

    Overall I think JK was much better in this debate than the TVNZ one and probably won narrowly.

    The Herald crew of judges gives it 4-0 to JK.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11318016

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  116. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Cunners is desperate. He’s going to build 10,000 house’s in Canterbury in four years!!!!

    Show us the builder’s David! :)

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  117. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    Johnboy spake:
    Show us the builder’s David! :)

    Exactly!!

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  118. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Besides most of our builders will be flat out knocking up all those extra classrooms to accommodate the thousands of extra teachers Cunners is going to provide to knock the class sizes down.

    One thing about chinless twits is that they never let reality get in the way of wanking! :)

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  119. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    DC was just telling the Chch audience what they want to hear. Not all of us down here are that gullible.

    Paddy Gower over at TV3 thinks JK won as well:
    http://www.3news.co.nz/opinion/patrick-gower/opinion-john-bantam-key-takes-debate-2014090221

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  120. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    That leaves only 90,000 house’s to be built in the rest of NZ Lindsay! :)

    A wonderous saviour indeed of the needy is our David! :)

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  121. dime (9,796 comments) says:

    Cunliffe reminds me of the serial killer from something about memory.

    the guy whos gonna release “7 minute abs”. just to outsell the 8 mins abs people.

    whatever national can do, labour can do better. cause they have goff, adern, king, mallard…

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  122. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    Johnboy,

    I also note that the Chch audience groaned audibly when he named Cosgrove for the Minister of Earthquakes role. :)

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  123. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Parker could get back into his old field of creative accounting and….. “hey presto”…. the houses/teachers/classrooms will miraculously appear! :)

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  124. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    The way Clayton seems to be soaking up the calories sucking on the taxpayers tit, should the unthinkable happen, he will make a worthy successor to Gerry as an earthquake precursor! :)

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  125. kowtow (8,186 comments) says:

    southern raider

    Does Dunne have a lot of Muslims in his constituency? Any link to the BDS thing?

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  126. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    If your going to boycott Israel please make sure you do it properly. This should help

    http://communismkills.tumblr.com/post/36306937565/so-you-want-to-boycott-israel

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  127. Nostradamus (3,216 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    Never mock a man who has his own website!

    Hmmm…

    In 2007, Clayton was one of only 30 people worldwide chosen to participate in a global leadership and public policy executive education programme at the John F Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. In 2012, Clayton was chosen to attend an Executive Education Programme at Yale University.

    Wasn’t it the same (or similar) claim that got Cunliffe into a bit of trouble recently?

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  128. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    Got to give David Cameron credit for having the balls to act on the terrorism threat.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/01/britain-cameron-asks-for-tough-anti-terrorism-laws-prevent-attacks-by-islamic/

    If only Obama had as much steel about him. He hasn’t even got a strategy yet.

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  129. OneTrack (2,981 comments) says:

    Jack5 – “No referendum, just the scum left inflicting their symbols on us.

    What do your reckon it would be? A green feather instead of a white one? A white feather on a green background?”

    Tino Rangatiratanga?

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  130. kowtow (8,186 comments) says:

    lindsay a

    Cameron is a complete dolt. The best way he could have dealt with the Muslims who hold UK citizenship and who are in Syria and Iraq would have been to join and expand the US bombing campaign of same.

    As it is there is no way any laws he passes ( if he Can) will stand up to ‘uman rights challenges.

    The British Establishment had its chance when Enoch warned the way back.

    They now reap the bitter harvest of Muslim immigration.And terrorism for generations.

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  131. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    They only invited Clayton because a CIA (with approval by JK and the GCSB) scan of every head in the world picked him out as the only one that when up ended could be used as a plunger on their blocked, original Thomas Crapper water closets without damaging them Nostradamus! :)

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  132. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    Kowtow I don’t have a link as I have only seen a copy of the signed BDS pledge card on Facebook. Harre has signed a copy of the same pledge card.

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  133. Southern Raider (1,800 comments) says:

    In the Herald it says NZ has no plans to join jihadist sanctions

    Looks like Mt Roskill is the place to retire when ISIS fighters get too old for combat

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  134. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    kowtow,

    I agree the Brits have only themselves for the Muslim terrorist threat. And yes Enoch was right. Re ISIS until Obama pulls his finger out of where it is stuck ISIS won’t be stopped quickly.

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  135. Lindsay Addie (1,404 comments) says:

    More problems between Mana and FlabDotCom:
    http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/internet-mana-alliance-shaken-by-trust-issues-2014090219

    The women in the video clip doesn’t seem to trust him.

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  136. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Very attractive couple of women you posted there Lindsay. I’m feeling quite randy now. Might pop off to bed! :)

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  137. Sublime (241 comments) says:

    If anyone’s still up and about … when/where did this Dunne/Israel thing surface? I missed it. Link? Cheers.

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  138. Sublime (241 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Very attractive couple of women you posted there Lindsay. I’m feeling quite randy now. Might pop off to bed! :)

    Hahaha!

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  139. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Overall I think JK was much better in this debate than the TVNZ one and probably won narrowly.

    That’s a fair interpretation. I called it a draw. Key won the first half handily and Cunliffe the second half handily. If I were Key, I would worry more as the second half had him looking squirrely and being pushed around by Cunliffe the way he was in the TV debate, where I thought he was badly mauled.

    Still, positives for both sides.

    The Herald crew of judges gives it 4-0 to JK.

    On the basis of one comment, which shows the level of intellectual firepower the Herald can muster. Apparently, the answer to his question is actually “no”, which removes some of its force. Still, Cunliffe appeared to have forgotten the answer.

    And WTF is Key doing inventing a capital gains tax? Even the IRD has called him out on that. He said some pretty bizarre things as well.

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  140. IGM (237 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Parker is adept in creative accountancy, also removing life savings from business associates leaving them destitute. He is also adept in stealing stroke-ridden friends’ wives . . . he is a real Labour leech with the morals of a street whore.

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  141. Lance (2,628 comments) says:

    All Canterbury WINZ offices closed due to threats.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11318403

    A good way to deal with that is, when the Assholes are caught, publish their faces and tell all the beneficiaries, you didn’t get your money in time because of this person.

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