Green MP says cave living is okay!

September 3rd, 2014 at 1:01 pm by David Farrar

A reader writes in:

Tonight at a public meeting in Rotorua that I attended, made an interesting interjection.

After an ACT candidate argued that unduly restrictive policies would have us all living in caves again, Catherine interjected:

“there’s nothing wrong with living in caves”

I trust the reader that this is an accurate recollection of the quote. Would be interested to hear from anyone else at that meeting, who can confirm it.

Good to have the not deny the impact of their policies :-)

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58 Responses to “Green MP says cave living is okay!”

  1. jaba (2,142 comments) says:

    taking the piss out of Delahunty isn’t fair

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  2. Distilled essence of NZ (85 comments) says:

    Sounds like you have a bit too much trust in random sources.

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  3. dubya (235 comments) says:

    Will these caves be subject to a rental property WOF? Otherwise I’d say Mad Cath is contradicting her dear leaders’ promises!

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  4. Distilled essence of NZ (85 comments) says:

    Also the Green policy agenda is arguably no more left wing than the National government’s was in the 1960s, when we had the highest living standard in the world.

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  5. RF (1,399 comments) says:

    I understand cave dwellers are hairy creatures so that should help keep them warm.

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  6. yankdownunder (32 comments) says:

    It is well known that this would be a reality if they got in. Walking, riding bicycles [no cars or roads], living in a cave or grass shack and cooking over an open fire, this is their idea of perfection.
    A return to a primative lifestyle is their idea of “progessive” ideas.

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  7. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Is this the Green housing policy?

    And are caves subject to the Cunliffe tax if you keep yours in a trust?

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  8. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Mao and the Chinese commies holed up in caves in Yanan for a while gathering their strength .That might be Cath’s inspiration.

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  9. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “Also the Green policy agenda is arguably no more left wing than the National government’s was in the 1960s, when we had the highest living standard in the world.”

    i’ll bite.

    wasnt it the 50’s when we were top? on the back of exporting wool or some such. kids got an orange for xmas. great times.

    in 2011 the UN ranked us 5th for standard of living..

    if the greens were in we would quickly drop.

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  10. So_called_arthur_king (1 comment) says:

    Hobbiton would be luxury then?

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  11. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    It would be easier on the taxpayer if Cath lived in a cave. Preferably a deep, complex one.

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  12. Gulag1917 (923 comments) says:

    Not enough caves to house us, what then?

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  13. Raphael (88 comments) says:

    Depends on the cave I suppose: http://weburbanist.com/2011/01/11/from-cappadocia-to-missouri-over-30-gorgeous-cave-houses/

    (although none of us could afford things like that with the Green’s policies)

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  14. Sporteone (43 comments) says:

    It’s alright, DC will build us some more caves

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  15. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    Will the cave be subject to the Labour/Greens Capital Gain Tax (assuming it’s not owned by a Trust).

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  16. edhunter (547 comments) says:

    Not quite caves but I assume it’s cheaper to build up than to build down? I’d have thought a street of bunkers with nothing to see up top but grass, trees & solar panels/wind turbines might appeal to the gweens.
    Me I’d like a Thunderbirds or Bat cave type set up. Poles or chutes maybe both would also be cool.

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  17. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    You want the REALLY good news? If a Labour-Green-MegaMana government is elected in a fortnight’s time, it’s highly likely that as the Greens’ 6th-ranked MP, Ms Delahunty would be a Minister in the new administration.

    If that doesn’t frighten you enough to make you party vote National, nothing will!

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  18. Raphael (88 comments) says:

    Ross Miller (1,682 comments) says:
    September 3rd, 2014 at 1:49 pm
    Will the cave be subject to the Labour/Greens Capital Gain Tax (assuming it’s not owned by a Trust).

    No Comrade. Under the rule of the Hydra (Labour/Green/IPM/NZF/Schmitz), ultimately the state will own all the land and you will have to live in your assigned cave. You will have no Capital and therefore no Capital Gains Tax.

    Hail Hydra.

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  19. Padriv Ustoev (69 comments) says:

    She is right you know. Osama lived in caves for over 10 years, then moved into a comfortable compound in Abbottabad and look what happened.

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  20. Richard (859 comments) says:

    It worked for Fred Flintstone!

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  21. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    “But comrade,I don’t want to live in a cave”

    ‘Come the revolution you won’t have a choice!”

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  22. wreck1080 (3,918 comments) says:

    maybe she really likes captain CAAAVEEMANNNN!!!!

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  23. Tarquin North (298 comments) says:

    I’m looking forward to when they build high rise caves in Cunliffes electorate. A novel way of fixing the housing problems, thanks Cath.

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  24. OneTrack (3,109 comments) says:

    Sporteone – “It’s alright, DC will build us some more caves”

    KiwiCave

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  25. Fisiani (1,039 comments) says:

    Remember that the Greens will make up 30% of a Labour/ Greens government, that means 7 incompetant economically illiterate Green Ministers to impose their zealotry on us.

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  26. Ryan Sproull (7,153 comments) says:

    Not quite caves but I assume it’s cheaper to build up than to build down? I’d have thought a street of bunkers with nothing to see up top but grass, trees & solar panels/wind turbines might appeal to the gweens.
    Me I’d like a Thunderbirds or Bat cave type set up. Poles or chutes maybe both would also be cool.

    Oh, great. Now I have the Thunderbirds theme song stuck in my head.

    FAB, Edhunter.

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  27. SGA (1,045 comments) says:

    It’s all part of the “NZ as middle earth” marketing strategy –
    “In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.”

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  28. mandk (995 comments) says:

    Cave?

    We used to dream of living in a cave!

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  29. James Stephenson (2,180 comments) says:

    Folding palm trees for all!

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  30. MT_Tinman (3,188 comments) says:

    If the Reds and the deluded idiots who vote for them would quickly fuck off to their caves there would be housing aplenty for the rest of us.

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  31. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “It worked for Fred Flintstone!” – worked even better for barney. betty was hot.

    cept the movie version where they somehow cast rosie odonnell.

    course, george jetsons wife was hotter still. can see how george would let her drain his wallet at the start of every episode.

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  32. Ross12 (1,428 comments) says:

    While we are having a laugh about caves, have look at what those windmills and other Green energy policies are doing to the UK

    ” Emergency supplies of electricity are being sought by the National Grid for this winter because of the threat of shortages of output from the UK’s coal, gas and nuclear power stations.

    National Grid said on Tuesday it was extending its search for additional sources of temporary supplies, blaming emergency shutdowns at two nuclear power stations operated by EDF of France and unexpected fires at two key coal-fired stations during recent months – Ironbridge in Shropshire and Ferrybridge in Yorkshire.” h/t BishopHill blog

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  33. Ancient Dan (47 comments) says:

    Don’t think anyone here has thought this through.
    Figure it out.
    You live in your cave, Wood stoves and coal are banned but it is insulated.
    Your donkey is tethered outside.
    It requires no fossil fuel and delivers organic manure for your really locally grown lettuce patch.
    life is a joyous passage of days finding forage for the donkey and weeding the garden.
    This is a green ecological paradise. Your carbon emissions are zero
    well except for the breathing out bit but I am sure policy on that issue is still to come to hand,
    breathing on alternative days perhaps.

    You just have to get your head around the benefits to Gaia of the whole package.

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  34. Inthisdress (270 comments) says:

    http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/11/18/30-million-chinese-people-live-in-caves/

    If I sell my cave whhic is in a trust, will it be subject to GCT?

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  36. Mike Readman (363 comments) says:

    You can make fun of the Greens all you want, but they don’t care. They’re at 16.5% in the latest poll!

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  37. MT_Tinman (3,188 comments) says:

    Mike Readman (362 comments) says:
    September 3rd, 2014 at 3:49 pm
    You can make fun of the Greens all you want

    I intend to. :-)

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  38. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “You can make fun of the Greens all you want, but they don’t care. They’re at 16.5% in the latest poll!”

    Wow, so only 83.5% of the country cant stand them!

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  39. Griff (7,731 comments) says:

    Ross12 (1,285 comments) says:
    Thanks for pointing out that England electrical supply is at risk
    from unreliable generation sources.
    Coal plants having fires and nuclear plants off line due to faults
    good o

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  40. Chuck Bird (4,890 comments) says:

    Mike Redman. Show us the poll please.

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  41. All_on_Red (1,583 comments) says:

    Ross12
    I see that DEC in the UK are looking at arrays of Diesel generators as back up! All because they decided against another Nuclear Power station and can’t do a gas fired one because they make fracking really hard to do. Despite sitting on hundreds of years worth of shale gas.

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  42. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    Apropos the Delahunty ‘cave’ comment…

    It is perhaps reasonable to note that on the Coromandel Peninsula, an area she ‘represents’ (at least in her own mind), there are many hundreds of perfectly formed ‘caves’ just waiting for residents to move in, although as they would need to be cleared of such ‘environmentally endangered’ creatures as weta and bats, this could be somewhat problematical in some instances…

    The fact that these ‘Caves’ are all former gold mines would seem to be an unintended irony, although she could no-doubt justify it as being an instance of ‘swords into ploughshares’.

    BTW: One must of course ‘assume’ that, having ‘the courage of her convictions’, and wishing to ‘demonstrate how it should be done’ Ms Delahunty is of already a troglodyte?
    Assume yes, but methinks that, as with many gween ‘ideas’, cave-dwelling is only for the ‘lower classes’, and that once again setting an ‘environmentally-friendly example does not seem to be a gween strong-point…

    BTW: Aren’t staligtites and staligmites also ‘vulnerable pieces of the environment’ ; or doesn’t that matter because they aren’t snails or bats or…?

    One wonders

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  43. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Komata (1,143 comments) says:
    September 3rd, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Apropos the Delahunty ‘cave’ comment…

    It is perhaps reasonable to note that on the Coromandel Peninsula, an area she ‘represents’ (at least in her own mind), there are many hundreds of perfectly formed ‘caves’ just waiting for residents to move in, although as they would need to be cleared of such ‘environmentally endangered’ creatures as weta and bats
    ====================================
    No,no no, the bats would be right at home with the bat shit crazy melon. and weta’s make great pets.

    Weta have been around long enough to see dinosaurs come and go and to evolve into more than 70 different species, all of them endemic to New Zealand.

    http://gewius.com/136-2/

    so long enough to see the Greens of then.

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  44. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Seen on a staff room wall.

    If women ruled the world we would still live in caves but with really fancy Curtains.

    Hat tip Kate at small dead animals.

    )8

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  45. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    Moonbat Delahunty is the perfect example of our political journalists left wing bias. We all know that Delahunty is barking mad, we all know she suffers from a severe case of guilty white syndrome yet the media consistently give her a pass.

    Had a National or ACT candidate been half as insane as Delahunty they would have been pursued without mercy by our political media. She would have been held up to ridicule (as she should be) and driven from politics (as she should be) make no mistake, this wimin is a nasty piece of work. If she had her way the entire non Maori population of this country would be forced to bow and scrape to Maori for the unpardonable sin of not being born Maori.

    Of all the MP’s in the house that I dislike I reserve a very special dislike for Delahunty, in my opinion she is nothing more than human waste.

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  46. All_on_Red (1,583 comments) says:

    Don’t hold back now BB!
    You’re right though. They have a go at Colin Craig (no I’m not a supporter) about chemtrails but leave Delahunty alone.
    Hypocrites

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  47. All_on_Red (1,583 comments) says:

    So_called_arthur_king (1 comment) says:
    September 3rd, 2014 at 1:27 pm
    Hobbiton would be luxury then?

    That’s where Parliament would be. Only the best for our ruling classes.

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  48. waikatogirl (437 comments) says:

    12.7 in the poll today, 16 seats!! Really, how are these nutty greens attracting this much interest. Ooh green is a pretty colour, I’ll vote for them! Not bloody likely

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  49. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    waikatogirl

    The gweens attract votes because they have a very successful image summed-up in their title.

    What is there not to like about a party that just wuvs saving all the pwetty little animals…? That carefully crafted image appeals directly to all the women who wuv the idea of saving the pwetty litle animals and they accordingly vote for the party that says it does exactly that. To them, it’s a no-brainer since all the ‘smaller creatures’ just HAVE to be looked after. it’s an emotionally-driven resoponse, carefully tailored…

    The fact that the NZ gween party are actually rabid communists bent on control is of course, never, ever mentioned, and if it was, many of the ‘targetted audience’ would have no idea about what they are being told anyway.

    As I said, a very successful image, which IMHO encapsulates Lincoln’s dictum quite well…

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  50. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    I look forward to hearing the Greens announce their affordable cave package for low income earners any day now. :)

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  51. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Delahunt’s cave leaders, Russel Norman and Metiria Turei : me, Tarzan, you, Jane. As the Greens might boast, Gen X Tarzan and Gen X Jane.

    After the Greens make cars extinct, swinging on tree vines might be the fastest way of getting round.

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  52. waikatogirl (437 comments) says:

    Komata
    I love cute animals. My favourite colour is green tooooo. Luckily some of us NZ women are politically interested enough to know about the watermelon party and what they really stand for. Wussel and Material and co give me a guts ache. Shame people don’t take enough time to find out who they are placing their lives in the hands of.

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  53. geoff3012 (75 comments) says:

    What about living in paper bag in middle o road…….

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  54. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    geoff3012

    Luxry – we use t’ dream of paper bag in middle o’ road.

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  55. hj (7,023 comments) says:

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones

    In BNZ Chief Economist Tony Alexander’s weekly overview, Auckland house prices are set to move upwards nicely. Here are his 19 reasons why:
     

    3. The government is explicitly aiming to grow Auckland’s population as a means of achieving “agglomeration” benefits for economic growth which accrue from high interaction amongst economic players.

    17. The government has announced its efforts to improve housing affordability (lower prices) and they are minor and unlikely to have a noticeable impact if any for many years.

    http://www.davidwhitburn.com/blogs/auckland-house-prices-to-rise-over-10-in-2013/

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  56. Jinky (185 comments) says:

    Delahunty is one of the reasons I gave up supporting the Greens. I had a lot of respect for Jeanette Fitzsimons and
    Rod Donald but the new lot are as nasty and venal as any of the other career politicos.

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  57. The Bangles (53 comments) says:

    Finally, the Greens have shown their true colours. I knew they should be called the caveman party. Even in the days of the caveman, the animals were guilty of letting loose emissions. If people think our emissions should be zero, having animals on our earth would be seen as intolerable.

    So a party vote for the Greens, is a vote for a decline in our lifestyle. No wonder they aren’t fond of my ideas.

    Idea #1: If we’re going to pay an ETS, at least let it stay in the country. Why have money go to Bangladesh to grown their trees, when we have unemployed people who would love to grow trees. Keeps money in the country.

    Idea #2: If we’re going to tax people for using energy, with the intent of saying, use less, how bout we make it, that the money you pay goes into an account, and anytime you need a new fridge or washing machine, if it is more energy efficient, you can use the money you’ve paid into your ETS account, to pay for the new fridge or washing machine. The Greens ETS means those who save up for that new appliance, are having their money forked out. This idea would mean those wanting to buy a new fridge could buy it sooner, and money would stay in the country. The ETS tax goes offshore.

    Idea #3: We wipe out all the Greens regulations, this means the cost of business goes down. Overnight new industries are created, we can now make more things here in New Zealand that are able to compete with overseas. Because we’re making more things here at home, the pollution from freighting has gone down.

    I don’t think the Greens truly care about the environment, I honestly think they’re out to bankrupt this country with their unaffordable promises. When they make sense I’ll take them seriously. Oh and now they think we shouldn’t have farms.

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  58. Grant500 (22 comments) says:

    A cave? Luxury. I used to dream of living in a cave…..

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