Taxpayers’ Union bribe-o-meter now includes minor parties

September 2nd, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The Taxpayers Union announced:

We’ve added the Green, ACT, United Future and Conservative Parties to the ‘Bribe-O-Meter’ election costing page launched last month.  Excluding ACT and New Zealand First, the total election ‘bribes’ – that is new spending not already in the budget covering the next parliamentary term, equals $12.7 billion, or $7,486 per household.

We’re delighted that the Bribe-O-Meter is enabling Kiwis to judge for themselves the various bribes this election. With the addition of the minor parties voters can assess which political parties are offering taxpayers value for money.

Currently National’s election promises add up to $329 per household. The equivalent figure for Labour is $2,776, the Greens $2,893, United Future $1,253, and the Conservatives $236. ACT is in the negative, committing to cut spending by $6,876 per household.

A lack of detail in New Zealand First’s policy documents has made it impossible for the Union’s independent expert, Dr Michael Dunn, to calculate credible figures for the Party’s inclusion in the Bribe-O-Meter.  Public and private requests to New Zealand First have, to date, not resulted in amelioration. New Zealand First apparently just doesn’t have the information. It appears that Mr Peters makes promises to all and sundry, but no one at his office is adding up the cost.

These costings are independent of the parties’ and done by Dr Dunn who is a former head of forecasting at IRD. I think this is a vital service that taxpayers can understand how much extra spending parties are promising to spend on their behalf, funded by taxpayers.

It’s appalling that NZ First have such nonsense policies, that it is basically impossible to even cost them!

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Note the above is a screen-shot. Use the link below to click through to get more details.

The bribe-o-meter is here. It will continue to be updated as parties continue to make promises about how they will spend your money.

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30 Responses to “Taxpayers’ Union bribe-o-meter now includes minor parties”

  1. mandk (998 comments) says:

    Because they are offering lower bribes than National, and because they have rejected most of the progressive social agenda, the Conservatives are looking more and more deserving of my party vote.

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  2. mister nui (1,029 comments) says:

    A pox on all of their houses, who think they know how better to spend my money than I.

    Party vote ACT.

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  3. Griff (7,808 comments) says:

    Party vote ACT.
    Have they examined the true cost of colons government by referendum policy?

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  4. CHFR (229 comments) says:

    I have looked at all the parties and am forced to admit my party vote of the last 2 elections is still the best.

    Electorate National (I live in Wellington Central) and Party vote ACT.

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  5. Daniel (210 comments) says:

    Even scarier when you consider a leftwing government would have Labour, Greens and NZ First (not to mention Mana and Internet) promises all stacked on top of each other. The enormous tower of spending would look very, very unstable!

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  6. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    From the ACT party website:

    ‘ACT is delighted that, according to the Taxpayers’ Union independent assessment, the party’s policies will save the average household $6,875 over three years,” said Dr Jamie Whyte. Our policies reduce government spending by a total of $11.6 billion over three years. The bulk of ACT’s cost reduction comes from getting rid of crony capitalism, the practice of politicians giving taxpayers’ money to their favoured firms. ACT is pleased its spending reductions have no effect on education and health spending.’

    So ‘Crony Capitalism’ is costing us nearly $4 billion a year and ACT are going to magically fix this ‘problem’ therefore delivering us all thousands of dollars in savings??

    What a load of bollocks and it seems ‘The Tax Payers Union’ is happy to lap it up. I guess that has nothing to do with Jordan Williams previous links to the ACT party.

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  7. Bob (497 comments) says:

    Do any of the media outlets publicise the taxpayer union figures? Not as far as I know. I don’t see them plastered over the front page of the Herald. The media seems to prefer muck raking. Policy and economic figures are too boring. Accusations of bribery and corruption against National are all the Left has. Yet to make intelligent decisions the voting public needs to understand policy and economic performance. Lets hope intelligent voters see through it.

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  8. OTGO (557 comments) says:

    I’m waiting for a political party to have a policy reducing the number of MP’s from 120 to 70. There’s $50 million + right there in savings in salary and support. Add in a 4 year parliamentary term for more savings and I’ll be able to afford that new Audi I have my eye on with the tax cuts I’ll be getting.

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  9. DJP6-25 (1,388 comments) says:

    OTGO 3:17 pm One out of two. I don’t agree with a four year term though. It gives a bad government another year to botch things up.

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  10. Cunningham (844 comments) says:

    Sadly the media are too obsessed with hacked emails to cover this tital wave of reckless spending that will engulf NZ should the left win. Appalling to think that this sort of information is hardly even being convered in the election campaign.

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  11. flash2846 (287 comments) says:

    So “Conservative” means conservatively spending our money and “Progressive” means aggressively spending our money. Hmm! Who would have thought?

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  12. James Stephenson (2,191 comments) says:

    What a load of bollocks and it seems ‘The Tax Payers Union’ is happy to lap it up.

    I guess you didn’t bother to actually click through to details, did you? ACT have identified specific budget line items such as the “Primary Growth Partnership” and drawn a big red line through them. From there, it’s just maths.

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  13. flash2846 (287 comments) says:

    Per “household”? Shouldn’t these figures be divided up by “tax payers household”? The burden is doubled or tripled for us isn’t it?

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  14. waikatogirl (457 comments) says:

    I agree with Bob re MSM and the taxpayer union. I was wondering why I hadn’t seen anything of them over the past few weeks. Obviously doesn’t project the right message for all those journalists to pass on to the viewers?

    Easy to spend other peoples hard earned money

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  15. Stephen Berry (6 comments) says:

    Really Glad to see Act is the only party advocating reduced spending and tax cuts as opposed to all the other parties who want to take more of your belongings to spend on things you wouldn’t possibly want to fund yourself.

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  16. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    How come there is no InternetMana? Unless the Conservatives get over 5%, InternetMana is lilely to get more MP’s than Act, UF & Conservatives combined. It would be interesting to see how high their bar goes.

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  17. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    Does Jordan’s bribe-o-meter also graph how much he would accept from Collins to “look in the other direction”?

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  18. Hugh Pavletich (225 comments) says:

    New Zealand house prices among world’s highest … Nikp Kloeten Stuff / Fairfax NZ

    NZ house prices among world’s highest … Niko Kloeten … Fairfax New Zealand

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10450981/NZ-house-prices-among-worlds-highest

    Demographia Housing Affordability Survey co-author Hugh Pavletich said there were some flaws with The Economist’s survey but it was yet another measure showing New Zealand’s houses were overpriced.

    “Housing should not exceed three times household incomes but overall in New Zealand it’s 5.5 times incomes, while in Christchurch it’s six times and in Auckland it’s eight,” he said.

    “Another measure is total housing stock value to GDP, which should not really exceed 1.2 times, where it is in the USA. In New Zealand it is 3.3 times.”

    Pavletich said he was pleased to see housing high on the political agenda, describing it as the “No 1 election issue”. ….

    Further comments on MacroBusiness Austratila article thread …

    The Economist warns on renewed bubbles | | MacroBusiness

    http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/09/the-economist-warns-on-renewed-housing-bubbles/

    David Killick of The Press and Hugh Pavletich with Chris Lynched on “Lynched” Canterbury Television Monday evening …

    http://www.ctv.co.nz/ondemand-lynched.html

    and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAhrPZx9QdM

    … further information …

    New Zealand’s Bubble Economy Is Vulnerable | Hugh Pavletich | Scoop News

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1404/S00166/new-zealands-bubble-economy-is-vulnerable-hugh-pavletich.htm

    … further recent articles …

    http://info.scoop.co.nz/Hugh_Pavletich

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  19. kiwigunner (230 comments) says:

    Just who is this ‘Taxpayers Union’?. Is it the same people highlighted in Dirty Politics? If so is there any credibility in any thing that they say?

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  20. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    What I want to see is a tax-o-meter, How much are the hard left parties – Green, Labour, Internet and Mana parties going to ream me with their policies.

    I know Labour are going to put taxes up. I know Greens are going to put taxes up more. What I want to know is how much will the hydra actually cost me? The Green amount? The Labour amount? Halfway in between the two of them? What will the actual tax breaks be – are “rich pricks” going to be $40k?

    How much is the Green Carbon tax going to add to the price of fuel and power?

    Or will it all be a surprise for after the election? Such fun.

    There could be a group whose role was to answer such questions, but they seem too busy chasing email gossip. Maybe the Taxpayers Union can come to the party on this as well, doing the MSMs job for them.

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  21. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    Stephen Barry – “opposed to all the other parties who want to take more of your belongings to spend on things you wouldn’t possibly want to fund yourself.”

    But socialists and communist do know better than you. Without them you wouldn’t be paying for a one and a half million dollar state house with chandelier on Auckland’s Queens Wharf. And then where would you be.

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  22. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Remind us of the political affiliations of the founders and key members of the Taxpayers Union?

    Penny Bright

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  23. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    Yes Penny, they are right wingers. Right wingers generally believe in limiting the powers of government so it is quite logical that they want to point out wastage of scarce resources, including money, when and where it occurs.

    As opposed to left wingers (both socialists and communists) who believe governments should be bigger and bigger and bigger, and if the government is spending more money, it is taken as good, even if the government is simply flushing the money down the toilet.

    The second approach worked a while for Greece. Then they ran out of other peoples money. Just as well they had a European Union to bail them out. Oh, wait,…..

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  24. CharlieBrown (1,014 comments) says:

    Judging by the meter it looks like NZ only has one party on the right side of the center line. Hell, even National are on the left side of the ledger… what a bloody terrible state this country is in.

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  25. rg (214 comments) says:

    Charlie Brown only just realised that National is on the left side? Wake up everybody, you have two choices this election ACT or a socialist party.
    National is spending more as a percentage of GDP than Labour ever did.

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  26. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    Even scarier when you consider a leftwing government would have Labour, Greens and NZ First (not to mention Mana and Internet) promises all stacked on top of each other.

    Of course, that’s not the way that it would actually work, should they become a Government. But don’t let me stop your little fantasy. Funny JK tried to paint it like that as well, in the leader’s debate. Baloney.

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  27. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    Charlie Brown only just realised that National is on the left side? Wake up everybody, you have two choices this election ACT or a socialist party.

    And National haven’t even announced any policies yet…

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  28. CharlieBrown (1,014 comments) says:

    And National haven’t even announced any policies yet…

    National are largely the party of the status quo. They’ve done bugger all since Helen left, and I’m sure they will do bugger all over the next 3 years under the current leadership. That is why they havn’t announce very much in the way of policies.

    In saying that, they have had some quality socialist announcements eg,
    * Parental leave extension
    * Meddling in the demand side of the housing market with subsidies to first home buyers
    * A telco tax to subsidize rural broadband
    * And no doubt they will have some more gems from stephen Joyces department where he grants our money to the odd business yet not their competitions

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  29. deadrightkev (472 comments) says:

    As much as I am a long-term supporter of policies Act is promoting and Jamie Whyte as a leader I cannot help but wonder why people on this blog cannot see why they are only polling in the 0.5% range.

    It is because the Act party brand is toxic. That is irreversible. The board of governance and marketing campaign manager seemed completely oblivious to that in the three years since last election, even though the brand was also toxic for the three years prior to that.

    If you change nothing, nothing changes.

    The Conservatives under Colin Craig if elected will be a force to be reckoned with whereas Act with one MP will be a wimper in the mist.

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  30. CharlieBrown (1,014 comments) says:

    The Conservatives under Colin Craig if elected will be a force to be reckoned with whereas Act with one MP will be a wimper in the mist.

    The problem with the Conservatives is they are what their name says. ACT isn’t conservative, it is fairly liberal in the true sense. When ACT say they want to give people the freedom to choose, the conservatives are just as likely to want to limit that freedom.

    Economically, the conservatives may have some center right policies, but they also have socialist economic policies. Their main platform is around reversing some of the more liberal LabourGreen social policies. The only liberal policy of theirs I can think of is reversing the anti-smacking law.

    I do agree with you that the ACT brand is really damaged. I think Jaimee Whytes worst idea was to not take Epsom himself, as I believe he has the ability to restore alot of that Brand if he spends a term in parliament.

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