General Debate 16 February 2015

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UglyTruth

The US at no time funded or armed groups that became ISIS. They only supported, very minimally, the Syrian Free Army, which as well as fighting Bashad, is also fighting ISIS.

Were would be without Captain Bubblehead to keep us all informed?

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/3000-fsa-fighters-defect-isis-qalamoun-mountains/

By Leith Fadel on January 9, 2015

Up to 3,000 Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters have defected from the organization and given ba’yah (religious payment; servitude) to the self-proclaimed Caliph of the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS), Sheikh Ibrahim Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, in the Qalamoun Mountains of the Rif Dimashq Governorate – these fighters belonged to multiple brigades that formed the conglomeration of the FSA.
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February 16, 2015 8:52pm
Johnboy

How many times have you watched “Nailin Palin” cha? 🙂
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February 16, 2015 8:59pm
Griff

Gee shawn and for that one instance of a nutty atheist how many insane acts by religious nut jobs are there?

Allah Akbar…… In God We Trust.

The Arab Muslim conservatives.

The united States Christian Conservatives .

Have killed how many in the last decade in the name of the same fucken god?
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February 16, 2015 9:02pm
Johnboy

What to do for a cha….fed penis! 🙂

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-210902.html
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February 16, 2015 9:02pm
Shawn Herles

Who really benefits from ISIS? Russian and Iran.

“When I talk to contacts in the middle east, all come to the conclusion that Iran is behind the incredible growth and expansion of ISIS. Kurdish media also agrees that it has Iranian backing (Kurdish News Article in English)

ISIS began their expansion in Syria, mostly in the north and east of the country. When the Free Syrian Army fought back against them in the winter, many ISIS fighters ran for cover in Syrian regime held areas before they were able to fight back and regain lost territory. Also, what is interesting is the fact that ISIS are not trying to push towards Damascus, rather they are trying to take over territory held by the FSA. They also paint their headquarters with their colours and have huge flags waving above, yet not once have they been bombarded by the Syrian airforce. So many of my contacts in Syria have told me about this. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence coming from the modus operandi of ISIS, that it is working in collaboration with the Syrian government, which itself is backed by Iran. If ISIS is collaborating with Bashar al Assad and Iran is his main supporter then there must be a connection, ISIS have to get their funding from somewhere and Saudi Arabia will not support a group which is helping Assad.”

https://russellchapman.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/isis-in-iraq-and-syria-who-is-it-good-for/
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February 16, 2015 9:03pm
cha

Hush Johnboy, I’m “noodling”…
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February 16, 2015 9:03pm
Johnboy

Or if it’s more severe old chap… 🙂

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090102123626AAzABZ0
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February 16, 2015 9:04pm
Shawn Herles

“Gee shawn and for that one instance of a nutty atheist how many insane acts by religious nut jobs are there?”

It just proves my point that ideology, atheist, religious, or political, is not the primary cause of violence. Bad people who want to do bad things will use any ideology for justification.

The problem is always the human heart.
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February 16, 2015 9:05pm
Reid

how many insane acts by religious nut jobs are there?

Allah Akbar…… In God We Trust.

The Arab Muslim conservatives.

The united States Christian Conservatives .

And of course the king of the heap, the Jews. Who see fit to slaughter thousands, who give the finger showing their utter contempt for rules they so readily cite in their own defence but when those same rules are cited to curtail this scum from slaughtering even more innocents, apparently those rules don’t apply.

Meanwhile Captain Bananas shows how utterly misinformed he is about everything, the latest example being, naturally, international geopolitics, specifically ISIS:

Who really benefits from ISIS? Russian and Iran.

Chortle. Given ISIS was formed out of the mujihadeen the US had recruited to destroy Syria and split Iraq into three, how does Captain Bananas figure this? See, Israel needs, not wants but needs, to take out Iran. On the road to take out Iran, it’s necessary to destroy Iran’s regional allies. Syria is the main one of these. Hence the CIA regime change excercise using colour revolution tactics from Eastern Europe in the 90’s which is what Brzezhinsky always uses and has done ever since he did the original mujahadeen exercise in Afghanistan in the 80’s.You realise of course the US gave birth to the Taliban, don’t you. Of course they did, where the fuck else did they come from, duh. (Brzezinsky was Obama’s senior FP Advisor in the last presidential campaign. 2+2=what).

Anyhoo, the second part of ISIS came out of Iraq and this is because Israel’s plan has always been to split Iraq into 3: Sunni, Shite and Kurd and this is why, duh, Israel has been VERY friendly with the Kurds (since the plan is they get all the oilfields) and of course duh, why Nato only attacked ISIS when it started to threaten the Kurds – duh. Didn’t you notice that?
So even though this is all to Israel’s benefit they never spend their blood and treasure on it instead they get their vassal state Uncle Sam to do all that and they do this because they sponsor both side of politics and if any politician on either side doesn’t sufficiently approve of all things Israel why AIPAC and co just fund his or her opposition and bob’s your uncle.

I could go on but it’s pretty simple. You just need to know that Western MSM is corrupt as hell and will never ever tell you the truth, they just won’t. I mean they don’t here do they with the lefties so why the fuck that surprises some here, I have no idea.

Of course Captain Bananas finds it all terribly complicated but that’s because he’s got some voice in his head telling, nay shouting things at him that simply aren’t true. You can if you like believe someone like Captain Bananas, but with a name like that, I wouldn’t, if I were you.
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February 16, 2015 9:19pm
Johnboy

It’s a good scenario you have there Reid but I see no problems in nuking the lot of the fucks so we can stop trying to get our heads around all this complicated shit and just take the free oil when it gets down to a reasonable activity level! 🙂

We don’t need towelheads fucking our pleasure instincts! 🙂
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February 16, 2015 9:34pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

Speaking of towelheads, and pleasure instincts, have you been behaving yourself lately?
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February 16, 2015 9:36pm
Johnboy

Not me old chap. I peel if I sunbathe that much! 🙂
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February 16, 2015 9:46pm
Reid

I see no problems in nuking the lot of the fucks so we can stop trying to get our heads around all this complicated shit

Yes Johnboy I noticed you advocating that over the weekend. The issue is mate, ISIS is not going to voluntarily gather into nice little crowds of several thousand or so then just wander into the desert away from all the population centres just so they would make a nice tidy little target.

That’s just never going to happen and so your plan isn’t going to work.

What would work is if the US turned all its intell and all its surveil assets onto the issue of identifying and eliminating with extreme prejudice all of ISIS’ funding and logistic sources including all those training camps and all those rich Saudi’s. But they’re never going to do that even though they easily could and the fact they never will be doing that should give anyone who genuinely wants to know whose behind ISIS pause for serious thought, because when you think about it that really is striking at the root and that really is very doable indeed, what with the FBI, CIA, NRO, NSA, DIA, MI6 and all of the other agencies that would be only too happy to help. If the politicians were only to ask.

But they won’t.

Think about that.

And don’t bother asking Captain Bananas what he thinks, I can tell you now his ideas won’t be worth shit, and I know, I haven’t even heard them yet. I just know. Trust me.
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February 16, 2015 9:46pm
UglyTruth

I see no problems in nuking the lot of the fucks so we can stop trying to get our heads around all this complicated shit and just take the free oil when it gets down to a reasonable activity level

Sounds like something that the love child of Machiavelli and Beavis would write.
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February 16, 2015 9:49pm
Johnboy

I was thinking of ALL the middle east Reid including the Jews. Just the mega tonnage required would be the calculation.

That would solve it all once and for all and make us all read the Bible in a new light! 🙂
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February 16, 2015 9:51pm
Johnboy

Anyway you’ve all become boring and I have to get my beauty sleep so nighty night! 🙂
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February 16, 2015 9:56pm
cha

Egypt’s in.

Egypt says it has bombed Islamic State targets in Libya, hours after the group published video showing the apparent beheadings of 21 Egyptian Christians.

State TV said the dawn strikes had targeted camps, training sites and weapons storage areas.

It did not give further details but witnesses reported air strikes in the port city of Derna, held by militants.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31483631
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February 16, 2015 9:58pm
Rowan

I like this reader comment from cricinfo from before the start of the WI – Ireland game, sums it up quite well!
“I’m not expecting an upset today. Ireland will be to strong for the West Indies”
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February 16, 2015 10:11pm
waikatosinger

Nostalgia-NZ (5,447 comments) says:
dime: waikatosinger has giving a good brief of the Ryder situation.

Not me I’m afraid. Maybe it was waikatogirl.
We are not the same. I sing. She’s a girl.
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February 16, 2015 10:41pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Yes, you’re right sorry.
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