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Shawn Herles

“FAMILIES OF LOVED ONES KILLED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS DEMAND AN END TO SANCTUARY CITIES”

“Several Americans who’ve had loved ones murdered by illegal aliens are calling on the Senate to end sanctuary cities and are recounting the agonizing losses they suffered thanks to lax immigration enforcement.

Witness Susan Oliver recounted, through tears, sheriff’s deputy Danny Paul Oliver’s violent murder. Oliver served in Sacramento County, a “sanctuary city” that protected the very illegals who killed him.

“He put himself into harm’s way every time he put his uniform on. And on Friday, October 24, 2014, my husband and father of two approached a car on his beat, but this time, it was the last time,” said Oliver. “The last thing my husband attempted to do as a POP [Problem-Oriented Policing] officer was to ask the man inside the car how his day was going. But he never made it to the driver’s window.”

“At about 10:30 a.m., that man was in the country illegal and armed with numerous illegal weapons. He aimed one out of the car from the parking lot of a Motel 6 at Sacramento and opened fire, killing my husband with a shot to the forehead,” she said with difficulty. “I can honestly say that not a day goes by where this has not effected me… Many people ask if I have gotten past that terrible day, and the answer is no.”

A twice-deported illegal alien from Mexico shot and killed two Sacramento officers, both Oliver and Sheriff Michael Davis Jr., while injuring another officer and innocent civilian during an October 2014 rampage.

He gave authorities a fake name when arrested, Marcelo Marquez, but U.S. Immigration and Customs enforcement determined his real name was Luis Enrique Monroy-Bracamonte. He had been deported back to Mexico in 1997 and 2001.

Oliver criticized the administration’s release of thousands of dangerous criminal aliens who were unlawfully present in the country”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/21/families-of-loved-ones-killed-by-illegal-aliens-demand-an-end-to-sanctuary-cities/
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July 24, 2015 3:41pm
stigie

Could we see some excellent footage of Penny Bright being carted away kicking and screaming tomorrow outside Skycity of the National Partys 79th Conference that makes her the right candidate for the Auckland Council ?

What a fucking joke !!
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July 24, 2015 4:12pm
Komata

stigie

But, but, but, Penelope is a capitalist, a property owner, a non rate-payer (since she is ‘above such things’; at least in her own mind) and as a result is what her peers would deem a ‘fat cat’ (DON’T go there). Because of this ‘inconvenient’ set of facts, why would she even want to protest outside a convention of those of whom she is one (in fact, if not in name)?

Jealousy? Envy?

One has to wonder.
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July 24, 2015 4:36pm
Reid

https://youtu.be/flC—s2moA

Imagine Obama behaving like that toward say, Warren Buffet or George Soros, any of the Hollyweird slime and even your common or garden AIPAC lobbyist.

Of course, you can’t, because he wouldn’t. He wouldn’t dare.
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July 24, 2015 4:47pm
Reid

People who blindly follow the medical profession as if they’re infallible and incorruptible, should read this.

That’s most of you, BTW.

http://asheepnomore.net/2015/07/23/former-pfizer-vice-president-blows-the-whistle-tells-the-truth-about-the-pharmaceutical-industry/

https://youtu.be/114cA3Bm1SA

Damn right.
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July 24, 2015 5:06pm
nasska

Reid

Because I was only putting at risk 1 minute & 31 seconds of the dwindling reserves of my life I watched that video.

You are correct in that Putin called the shots……something we would all love to see our leaders do frequently to those we despise.

It is however, something we will seldom if ever see in the West…..one of the prices we pay for our system of democracy is the reluctance of politicians to upset the wealthy & powerful. The arse they kick today is the same one that needs licking when the begging bowl is passed around to fund the next electoral campaign.
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July 24, 2015 5:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Scott Chris 3:22

I’d suggest Cook might have posted using a pseudonym because he wanted his argument to be heard, not his reputation.

I’d suggest you get acquainted with the facts of this matter.

Cook didn’t post under a pseudonym…. he posted using the identity of physicist Dr Lubos Motl.
Cook and his SS mates created phony data that Cook then submitted as valid comments by Climate bloggers.

This is fraudulent research

I would also suggest that you read the comments posted on this site.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/23/yes-why-does-john-cook-of-skepticalscience-and-the-97-have-to-use-identity-theft-in-his-research/
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July 24, 2015 5:11pm
Jack5

The High court challenges the ban on prisoners voting in general elections.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11486392
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July 24, 2015 5:15pm
Fletch

The great video that marleybob posted at 8:53am was of Allan West speaking at a rally of over 12,000 people in Times Square in New York protesting Obama’s useless Iran deal. Did you see it on the news? Of course not.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/229841-over-ten-thousand-protest-iran-deal-in-times-square-in-new-york/
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July 24, 2015 5:15pm
Fletch

Thanks to precedent, it turns out that the individual States themselves in America can reject the Iran deal.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/22/surprise-the-states-can-reject-the-iran-deal/
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July 24, 2015 5:16pm
mikenmild

Wishful thinking Fletch.
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July 24, 2015 5:28pm
Scott Chris

Cook didn’t post under a pseudonym…. he posted using the identity of physicist Dr Lubos Motl.
Cook and his SS mates created phony data that Cook then submitted as valid comments by Climate bloggers.

Says she, sucked into the narrative without fact checking.

Try to widen your sources Maggy.
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July 24, 2015 5:30pm
Kea

SPC (6,994 comments) says:
July 24th, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Global warming due to greenhouse effect.

1. It’s real.

Brrrrrrrrr this reality is freezing. We have never felt such frigid warmth.
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July 24, 2015 5:46pm
Scott Chris

Okay Maggy, put it this way, what phony data did “Dr Lubos Motl” make up?
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July 24, 2015 5:47pm
Scott Chris

Oh fuck, the psychotic troll has dragged itself out of bed.

You on a sickness benefit or a pension Kea?
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July 24, 2015 5:48pm
Kea

“Oh fuck, the psychotic troll has dragged itself out of bed.”

Reported

I do not normally snitch, but that hypocrite deserves it.
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July 24, 2015 5:50pm
Manolo

Kea, constant hater of the Jew,
very cold and shivering in bed,
loyal pro-Arab and anti-red,
runs the risk of catching the flu.
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July 24, 2015 5:56pm
Kea

Scott Chris (6,489 comments) says:
October 4th, 2014 at 3:24 pm

Since the change in comments policy I’ve clicked the “report abuse” button maybe 50 times.

No action appeared to have been taken on any of them so I emailed Farrar. Turns out you have to email him at comments@kiwiblog.co.nz if you want anything done.

Yes Kea, I narked:
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July 24, 2015 5:56pm
Kea

Monolo, I am a semite, not an Arab. Anymore of your hate speech you will be reported for being an anti-semite.
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July 24, 2015 5:57pm
nasska

You don’t seem to be your normal happy self Kea. 🙂
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July 24, 2015 6:04pm
Kea

nasska, All good in camp Kea. Just got back from Friday prayers. 😉
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July 24, 2015 6:06pm
Manolo

Kea confesses to being a nark,
running around as a snitch,
hounding a Jew as if were a witch,
is a task rather unsavoury and dark.
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July 24, 2015 6:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Scott Chris 5:30 pm

Says she, sucked into the narrative without fact checking.

Try to widen your sources Maggy.

I’m always happy to be shown the error of my ways.
You seem to have forgotten to provide a link to a source that will show my facts are incorrect.

In the meantime perhaps you could point out the incorrect facts in yet another posting about Cook’s fraudulent activity
https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/
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July 24, 2015 6:14pm
Kea

Maggy dear, you do not know what you are dealing with. He is an intellectual cripple searching for validation. He has no reasoned position of his own and is restricted to aping those who he aspires to be, without a supporting argument.
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July 24, 2015 6:22pm
Scott Chris

Reported

Lol
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July 24, 2015 6:28pm
Scott Chris

You seem to have forgotten to provide a link to a source that will show my facts are incorrect.

Heh, nice Winston Peters Maggy. You’re the one alleging the fraud. Where is it?
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July 24, 2015 6:30pm
Kea

Lol

Now lets see how a hate filled intolerant zionist is treated by DPF and compare with how decent people are treated…

http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-zealand-jewish-pm-wins-third-term/
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July 24, 2015 6:31pm
Scott Chris

Now lets see how a hate filled intolerant zionist is treated by DPF and compare with how decent people are treated…

You aren’t a decent person Kea. On a richter scale of obnoxiousness you’re clocking ‘once in a decade’.
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July 24, 2015 6:41pm
Scott Chris

I do not normally snitch, but that hypocrite deserves it.,

No hypocrisy. I fully disclosed my actions.

But what you and a lot of your fellow dimwits failed to recognise was that I had taken note of Farrar’s new rules and was applying them.

Play the game you silly bird.
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July 24, 2015 6:48pm
Kea

I am reassured that I do not meet with the approval of your sort Scott. Very much so. Thanks for the compliment. Now run along and carry on faking it.
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July 24, 2015 6:50pm
AgentBallSack

If you’re taking offense at shit that’s said to you on the internet you really need to back the fuck away from the keyboard and get a life. We’re adults, not fucking preschoolers guys.
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July 24, 2015 6:50pm
Kea

ABS, agreed. But some run to DPF and he listens. To some.
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July 24, 2015 7:00pm
Kea

No hypocrisy. I fully disclosed my actions.

But what you and a lot of your fellow dimwits failed to recognise was that I had taken note of Farrar’s new rules and was applying them.

Play the game you silly bird.

I bet you are a Hall Monitor at your school.

I guess it beats having mates and a girlfriend eh ?
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July 24, 2015 7:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sorry Kea, if I have inadvertently got myself involved in a “game” to take you down.

I don’t play games… so not much help from my quarter, I’m afraid.
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July 24, 2015 7:13pm
Kea

Maggy, I have no idea what you are on about ?

The axis of evil; Lucy, Shawn, Scott Chriss, are the ones to watch.

I think you are lovely x 🙂
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July 24, 2015 7:16pm
AgentBallSack

Scott Watson knocked out fellow inmate before parole denied…

So was this in a union run prison (good) or a private prison (bad)? Since I am pretty sure he is in Christchurch Prison this means it’s union run.
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July 24, 2015 7:37pm
SPC

“Monolo, I am a semite, not an Arab.”

Arabs are Semites.
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July 24, 2015 7:47pm
cha

Conniptions ahoy!.

The Fijian-born constable will today be revealed as the first Muslim woman to have successfully come through a programme to help police increase diversity on the front line and within its ranks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz//nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11485870&ref=nzh_tw
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July 24, 2015 8:01pm
itstricky

Do you ever get the feeling that it’s all just a immature school boy prank lark to DPF?

https://twitter.com/SeanTopham/status/624111032974225408

Where are the grown ups, with the professionalism, the ethics, the intellect and what not? Ahhh, they’ve all gone down the road to do bongs with Max Key and his model (in case you didn’t know it) girlfriend…
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July 24, 2015 8:02pm
Kea

“Arabs are Semites.”

Much of what ignorant uneducated people consider Arab land has only been such since the Arabs rose up and took over the Middle East in relatively recent years. By that measure Israel is Arab. It is no less Arab than Syria.

Still perils to swine…
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July 24, 2015 8:12pm
Reid

Oddly the Iranians aren’t Semites, they’re Aryans. They’re the most valuable people in the ME.

I’m amazed the zionist lobby hasn’t broadcast that far and wide. It’d make real good propaganda wouldn’t it.

Perhaps they know a whole lot of things that would come out, if they did.

Such as: if Iranians are closer to Westerners than anyone else in the ME, why do we in the West hate them so much? (As in, the sheeple blinded by the propaganda hate them.) That’d be awkward, wouldn’t it. Imagine Fox trying to explain that. Or the BBC.

Do you ever get the feeling that it’s all just a immature school boy prank lark to DPF?

Yes tricky. We all know you’re green with envy that the conservatives have a human for a PM whereas you lefties had Hulun.
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July 24, 2015 8:20pm
itstricky

Interesting that you consider JK a PM for “the conservatives”. He’s basically just Helen in drag, I would have thought.

I must admit I would prefer a PM with some sort of professional face. Not one that pretends that he knows what “gay” means, pretends he can swing a cricket bat, think it’s okay to endorse beer pong or makes embarrassing lame creepy uncle jokes. It’s almost as cringe-worthy as watching Helen have pictures with The Warriors or watching random politicians kiss babies.
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July 24, 2015 8:33pm
Reid

Interesting that you consider JK a PM for “the conservatives”. He’s basically just Helen in drag, I would have thought.

He’s human tricky.

I make no comment on his policies.

I must admit I would prefer a PM with some sort of professional face.

He is professional.

Not one that pretends that he knows what “gay” means,

Not a requirement for a PM unless you’re a pwogwessive in which case who cares what you hallucinate?

think it’s okay to endorse beer pong

He’s human.

makes embarrassing lame creepy uncle jokes

Only embarrassing, lame and creepy to a pwogwessive in which case who cares what you hallucinate?

It’s almost as cringe-worthy as watching Helen have pictures with The Warriors or watching random politicians kiss babies.

Quite agree, and add “or watching her pretend to be married to a creature who apparently likes being kissed by men and has trouble at LA airport when Chippendale dancers are there at the same time.”
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July 24, 2015 8:41pm
Kea

Oddly the Iranians aren’t Semites

Reid. Nor Arab. They are light skinned and fair eyed people.
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July 24, 2015 8:46pm
Reid

No. As I said Kea, they’re Aryan, not Arab. That’s not my opinion, it’s how they view themselves.
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July 24, 2015 8:47pm
SPC

Kea,

1. Arabs are Semites.
2. Those of the ME speak Arabic a Semitic language. Most are Moslems of Islam a Semitic religion.

While one might argue that Lebanese, Syrians and Iraqis were not originally Arab, a southern Semitic people, – being northern or Western Semitic, they now speak a southern Semite language and adhere to a southern Semite religion. And most would have had ancestors who inter-married with Arabs.

Of course there may be some who imagine their ancestry was purely Indo European, especially in Syria. That might explain the special relationship to Iran, as to protecting Syria from the embrace of Sunni Islamists as much as the Shia aspect of the Assad family.
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July 24, 2015 8:49pm
Kea

Reid, its neither of our opinions. It is historical fact. But I am sure that is what you meant to say.
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July 24, 2015 8:49pm
Kea

While one might argue that Lebanese, Syrians and Iraqis were not originally Arab

SPC, whoops. You forgot to add Israelis to that list. A small error I am sure. The Israelis are Arab by your logic.

The entire region was taken over by nomadic Arabs, in the same way the Mongols did. Syria was not Arab. They still speak the language of the fictitious Christ there, and he was a Jew.
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July 24, 2015 8:55pm
SPC

“It is no less Arab than Syria”.

Most people in Israel are northern Semite as is the language. Arabs and Arabic are southern Semite. Israel is not a member of the Arab League, Syria is.
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July 24, 2015 8:56pm
Kea

“Israel is not a member of the Arab League, Syria is.”

SPC oh so you if I join a club it makes you what the club is. Eg: I am a member of the pony club so I must be a PONY ❗

Jesus wept SPC, use your brain and stop trying to create alternative realities to maintain your absurd myths about the jew.
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July 24, 2015 8:59pm
SPC

Kea, Aramaic is a Semitic language and the language of Syria pre Arab conquest. Syrians are a Semitic people, once northern Semite but since inter-marriage to Arabs and adoption of Arabic have become part of southern Semite culture. Not something that can be said of Israeli Jews.
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July 24, 2015 9:02pm
nasska

Nothing defines nor divides nations so much as language. The situation hasn’t changed much in thousands of years.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jh2zsthyb00zrv3/indoeuropean.png?dl=0
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July 24, 2015 9:06pm
Kea

SPC, Oh good to know the master race is pure and not sullied by the mud races Oh but wait ❗ How do you explain black Jews ?

By ignoring them…?

http://mic.com/articles/89805/8-pictures-revealing-the-little-known-world-of-black-jews

Lots of folk in the area recently renamed Israel are in fact Arabs. By your logic the chosen pure master race of chosen ones simply must be Arabs because Arabs live there. Thousands of them in fact.
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July 24, 2015 9:09pm
Reid

Nothing defines nor divides nations so much as language.

In the olden days nasska when fuzzy wuzzies were fuzzy wuzzies and all we had were spears and muskets.

These days its lies and propaganda that divides nations. Lies propagated by presstitutes and lapped up by sheeple who hallucinate that someone else will do their thinking for them and if something’s wrong, will call the alarm, so they don’t have to. And since they don’t, well, the sheeple foolishly conclude, no problem…

Don’t they.
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July 24, 2015 9:13pm
Kea

The fact is Judaism is a RELIGIOUS CULT not a race. They are the same people that occupied Syria and surrounding areas at that time. The Jews described a tribal cult and not a separate race.

They are not more pure, god favourites, persecuted, or any other such thing. That is religious bullshit and no informed and intelligent person thinks otherwise.
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July 24, 2015 9:15pm
SPC

Kea, it is becoming a little obvious you are simply trolling with your nonsense about Arabs not being Semites.

Arabs are Semites. To claim that people of lands conquered by Arabs are not Semites you

1. have to claim that they are not Arabs.
2, identify who they are instead and demonstrate that they are not Semites

But those of Lebanon and Syria – northern Semites by language and Iraq – Assyrians and Babylonians spoke Semite languages.
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July 24, 2015 9:16pm
Reid

No they are the chosen people nasska. That’s a fact. But the question is: who are “they” and the fact is, almost the entire population of Israel, isn’t.

That’s the problem. Now watch.

Unleash the hysteria, the clothes rending, the wailing, the lies, and a level of outright, palpable viciousness completely unbefitting a holy people, were they that.
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July 24, 2015 9:17pm
nasska

….”These days its lies and propaganda that divides nations.”…..

Then nothing has changed. Divide & conquer isn’t exactly a new concept.
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July 24, 2015 9:20pm
kowtow

“Kea, it is becoming a little obvious you are simply trolling…..”

I’ve been saying that for ages.

Kea is a troll. Do not feed.
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July 24, 2015 9:22pm
Reid

Then nothing has changed.

Actually a shitload has changed nasska, in terms of people having the opportunity to familiarise themselves with what’s going on.

100 years ago the world would still be thinking Iraq really did have WMDs and that’s precisely why we had to invade them after their unprovoked attack on the peaceful US.

What a load of crap right?

Yet that’s what people would have believed, 100 years ago.

See how much has changed?
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July 24, 2015 9:23pm
Kea

“But those of Lebanon and Syria – northern Semites by language and Iraq – Assyrians and Babylonians spoke Semite languages”

Yes, but that is not where the Arabs came from idiot. Using your logic, and some of Labours, you are CHINESE. I note you never bring this up when morons start screaming anti-semite, which speaks to your gutter level lack of intellectual honesty.

“ARABS ARE NOT SEMITES!

MAR 25, 2014by ADMINin OPINION
I’m tired of people referring to Arabs as Semites. I constantly hear the excuse from Jew-haters that Arabs can not possibly be anti-Semitic because they, themselves, are Semites.

“By Shai Bentekoa

On top of the fact that there are a goodly number of Jews (Semites) who are anti-Semitic[1], it is a falsehood to claim that Arabs are Semites, when they are actually Hamites. The following discusses the difference between Semites and Hamites.”

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/03/25/arabs-are-not-semites/
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July 24, 2015 9:24pm
SPC

Why does Friday night GD always result in the same people raising the same old tired methods for attacking a certain group of people?
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July 24, 2015 9:24pm
SPC

Kea 9.24, so the source for your opinion as to Arabs not being Semites comes from religious Jews? Really?

What next getting your science from Creationists?
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July 24, 2015 9:28pm
Kea

SPC, what group is that ?

PS. I am off to bed. But feel free to have these lying Jews [in YOUR view] on.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/03/25/arabs-are-not-semites/

EDIT: GASP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANTI SEMITE ! NAZI ! MUSLIM !
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July 24, 2015 9:28pm
publicwatchdog

FYI Kiwibloggers 🙂

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1078679372144754&set=ms.c.eJwzNDC3MDO3NDY3MjQxMTc10TOECphABMxhAoYWFhaGhibGlgAFUwpE.bps.a.852990618046965.1073741825.100000081045781&type=1&theater

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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July 24, 2015 11:56pm
big bruv

For Lucia and all the other Catholics who continue to deny that their church is a haven for child rapists.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/70377103/catholic-priests-who-abused-new-zealand-children-will-not-be-investigated

You people should be ashamed of yourself and your stinking religion.
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July 25, 2015 6:39am
Manolo

Widening the net: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/24/state-department-intelligence-watchdogs-call-for-criminal-probe-clinton-emails/?intcmp=hpbt1
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