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Keeping Stock

Goodness; those arrogant and aloof All Blacks eh?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/73659275/All-Blacks-pass-cup-to-passengers-as-they-celebrate-on-their-victory-flight-home

Kudos to the entire management team and especially team disciplinarian Keven Mealamu for the way they have instilled so very redeeming qualities into this current crop of All Blacks. No longer are they the unsmiling giants of rugby; the 2015 side will be remembered as the People’s Team, despite what a couple of people here might think.
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November 4, 2015 8:01am
Inandout

Great homecoming and I am sure the ABs will treasure their Paul Henry cups.
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November 4, 2015 8:04am
kowtow

Germany calling, Germany calling, Germany calling…..

When a pro illegal immigrant publication like Speigel makes the following statement, then things must be very bad indeed.

“The government, in short, has lost control. And Germany is in a state of emergency.”

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/merkel-under-fire-as-refugee-crisis-in-germany-worsens-a-1060720.html

Haw ,Haw, Haw.
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November 4, 2015 8:05am
Manolo

Did Longknives or big bruv make it to the airport?
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November 4, 2015 8:05am
itstricky

Kudos to the entire management team and especially team disciplinarian Keven Mealamu

Followed closely by “All Blacks spend all night in strip club”

Not that I care. So what. But I’m sure these two posts should go together!
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November 4, 2015 8:06am
oldpark

Noticed the evil little pest Ron “skid” Mark was given the red card for the third time in Parliaments debating chamber yesterday. The little weasel faced ratbag was heard to make alleged racist comments about some of his colleagues in the debating chamber. David Carter (the speaker) seems to be either deaf or lets on he dosnt hear the vile filth uttered under the breath of “SKID” MARK daily. Mark is a list MP for the Peters Party. Maybe it is time ratbags like Mark should, after being kicked out of parliament three times already this year, should see a taxidermist,or a psychiatrist.
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November 4, 2015 8:09am
Manolo

It’s is a blessing to live under a wonderful, tolerant and respectful Islam:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11972605/Irans-regime-questions-mental-balance-of-actress-who-posted-images-without-wearing-a-hijab.html

Iran’s regime has joined the campaign against a leading actress who released photographs of herself without a veil, questioning the woman’s mental balance and calling her an “offender”.

Sadaf Taherian was forced to flee to the United Arab Emirates last week after being criticised for publishing pictures on social media showing her without the traditional Muslim head covering, or hijab.
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November 4, 2015 8:10am
jcuk

The media seem to be certain the girl was “strapped in” but the video shows this not to be the case.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/73631356/worksafe-to-investigate-case-of-teen-driven-through-walls-of-fire-for-monster-truck-stunt
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November 4, 2015 8:11am
renderer

In the name of transparency, does Ms Bright have an update on whether or not the court was mislead during her recent court case.
If such lack of transparency were shown by, say John Key, she would screaming from the roof tops.
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November 4, 2015 8:13am
Paulus Gnome

The horrid tells us today: ‘The Labour Party has closed the doors on vast tracts of its 99th annual conference this weekend, saying it wants to keep debate “in the family”.’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11539577

Good idea to keep a shit fight private, wash dirty laundry etc.

Going on to say: ‘It will be Andrew Little’s first annual conference as party leader and policies expected to be up for discussion include raising the retirement age and the capital gains tax.

And popular topics like that will keep them off the treasury bench seats and hopefully it will keep Little as leader.

Did labour declare a crisis for female jockeys and New Zealand horses in the Melbourne Cup yesterday perchance?

Three more years, three more years, three more years . . . . .
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November 4, 2015 8:14am
oldpark

Not long after Ron “skid” Mark got booted out of Parliaments debating chamber yesterday,he was joined by Liebours fat controller, Grant Roberson, who spends his time making a fool out of himself, and masquerades as Liebours financial whiz kid. seems the Laurel and Hardy lookalikes, have both been to clown school, and have decided to act out their fantacies in Parliaments debating chamber.
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November 4, 2015 8:16am
jcuk

Interresting that the video is not the version I originally saw and as edited does not show clearly she was not strapped in ….????
Goes to black before the original version showed her stepping out of the protective cage
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November 4, 2015 8:18am
Paulus

Cannot see anything from the Union Labour Party Conference this weekend will make any difference to anybody.
They are wrought with sniping and position play that it may take at least a couple of hours to find out what was “discussed”.
There are still many different factions playing there – non going anywhere.
Barbies and knife sharpening are well under way.
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November 4, 2015 8:23am
peterwn

Tobacco dumped at airports – I wonder how many people thought they would be fined $400 for trying to bring in too much tobacco even if they declared it on the card, or they thought they would lose the lot if they tried to bring in too much. Possibly they thought that way because of the bins where passengers can dump leftover food etc which is obviously not going to be allowed in.
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November 4, 2015 8:25am
stephieboy

Tea bagger and other kinds of Republican idiocy ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVSDHLVRfg0
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November 4, 2015 8:26am
G152

Saw the Goff screaming its head off.
And deputy dweeb asking the same question expecting
a different answer..
And the mechanic got the boot while peters was pretending
relavence
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November 4, 2015 8:26am
fernglas

The discussion over super and capital gains tax needs to be properly addressed. Despite my personal interest in retaining the status quo, it is not sustainable on most informed views. Instead of retreating from the policies, Labour should have the balls to come out swinging, explaining why the policies are necessary and inviting cross-party debate. I fear we are creating an intolerable legacy for coming generations, and the solution should be above petty politicking.
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November 4, 2015 8:31am
Lucia Maria

NewsTalk ZB has been painful this week. Too much rugby.
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November 4, 2015 8:39am
Jack5

Re Oldmark at 8.09….

Your rather bitter attack on Ron Mark … this wouldn’t be related to remarks Mark once made under Parliamentary privilege would it, Oldmark?

I’m not sure that Parliamentary privilege should be used the way it was (and has been used by other MPs from time to time), any more than such venomous remarks about someone, as you made about Mark, should be made from the shelter of pseudonym.
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November 4, 2015 8:40am
stephieboy

Lucia Maria, my brother ,usually a big AB fan, felt the whole thing is becoming too overhyped by media which is affecting the lustre of the win.

BTW , yes Richtie Mc Caw is a great AB captain but to call him the greatest ignores the fact that the game today is professional played under entirely different conditions compared to the amateur era.
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November 4, 2015 8:43am
Jack5

Stephieboy at 8.43, made a post including … “my brother”….

Fuck! There’s two of them!
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November 4, 2015 8:45am
kowtow

peterwn

Tobacco dumping.

Ngati Notional are wowsers for bringing in those limits, and of course it’s for our own good!

I particularly enjoyed this statement from the Customs man

“I’m pleased the duty-free change is deterring travellers from bringing tobacco through the border – this contributes to reducing the harm caused by smoking and the Government’s goal of making New Zealand smoke-free by 2025.”

Shocking and immoral waste ,the tobacco should be donated to the poor of Aotearoa……..
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November 4, 2015 8:46am
jcuk

Jack5 8.45 🙂
edit … and Kowtow 🙂
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November 4, 2015 8:48am
billmurray

The pox on Len Brown for having the reception at Victoria park instead of parade up Queen St.
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November 4, 2015 8:50am
stephieboy

Jackie 5, OMG just one of you is more than enough !

Capturing the diversity dividend in Aotearoa New Zealand ,

http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/learning/departments/centres-research/caddanz/publications/articles.cfm

Cheers !
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November 4, 2015 8:50am
RF

Attention mikenmild. I see your horse came in first in the Melbourne Cup. Hope you had a tidy sum on it.

Cream cakes for morning tea ?
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November 4, 2015 8:57am
Keeping Stock

@ billmurray:

The pox on Len Brown.

There; fixed it for you 😀

Your point about not having a parade in Queen Street is well made though.
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November 4, 2015 8:59am
EAD

The Polish people begin to defy the group of people who are behind mass immigration to Christian lands.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/02/polish-football-fans-unfurl-50-foot-stand-defend-christianity-banner-premier-league-match/

Things could get interesting here. They’ve had direct experience rising up against the Bolsheviks so know the games they play.
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November 4, 2015 9:00am
waikatogirl

Charles and Camilla arriving in NZ today for an official visit. Did anyone remember they were coming?

There doesn’t appear to be much hype. Of all the royals I am guessing most of us are not that excited.
Perhaps it doesn’t help much that their tour consists of uninteresting events including meeting that other ‘royal’ truck driver from Huntly.

Anyway, welcome to NZ Charile and Camilla. Hope the weather improves for you.
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November 4, 2015 9:00am
kowtow

EAD

Just wait for the Party decreed punishments that will be meted out to that football club.

Patriotism and nationalism are now thought crimes.
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November 4, 2015 9:08am
waikatogirl

For all those who lost money on the Melbourne Cup I hope you enjoyed th event.
Someone put on $12 picking the first 4 horses in order and won $150,000. Wow!
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November 4, 2015 9:12am
kowtow

“The discussion over super and capital gains tax needs to be properly addressed.”

The real problem is not that gummint want to raise more revenue, the problem is gummint spending. It is out of control.
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November 4, 2015 9:12am
Longknives

I thought you backed Preferment Mikenmild?
Anyone heard from ‘Nostradamus’ Michael? He no doubt nailed that 17k Trifecta yesterday..
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November 4, 2015 9:13am
Lucia Maria

EAD,

There is nothing Christian about that banner.

Christian lands were only Christian because the people that lived on them cared more about Christ than setting up a Christian civilisation. They can easily revert back to paganism if the people on them don’t live Christian lives.
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November 4, 2015 9:30am
Jack5

Chris Rattue rates the All Blacks in the Hooerald today and gives Dan Carter a 9. Bit of a change, but, of course no admission Rattue was wrong when he had been calling for Carter to be dropped.

Rattue after the NZ v Georgia match said this of Carter:

Carter needs to be dropped on that performance alone. Instead, we’ve been bamboozled with tales of All Black subterfuge, the sort of double dealings that could fill a John le Carre novel. Next thing, there will be corpses turning up in opposition hotels with fake game plans stuffed in their pockets.

It’s time for Colin Slade or Beauden Barrett to be given the mantle. If they were good enough to make this squad primarily as No. 10s, and that’s what selector Grant Fox clearly stated, then this is the moment to elevate one of them. Both would offer more of a running threat, whereas Carter was a sitting duck who turned his outside backs into target practice against the stoic Georgians.
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November 4, 2015 9:33am
AgentBallSack

I’m just here to discuss Scott Watsons innocence 😎

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/73623547/Mystery-wreck-in-Picton-Harbour
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November 4, 2015 9:42am
kowtow

There’s nothing “Christian” about this either……..pure dhimmitude.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/05/worlds-first-lesbian-bishop-calls-church-remove-crosses-install-muslim-prayer-space/
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November 4, 2015 9:44am
stephieboy

Lucia Maria, EAD has a rather peculiar idea of what is Christian heavily influenced by his fixation on National Socialist ideology . He fails to realise also that the Nazis were basically anti Christian reviving many old Germanic pagan festivals and practices. I get the impression that EAD believes that Christianity is a sort of only a “whites only” club

kowtow,

“Patriotism and nationalism are now thought crimes.”

Untrue. More the fact that your old empire loyalist views merely deserve mocking and chiding !
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November 4, 2015 9:55am
Longknives

You’d have to consider yourself pretty damn unlucky to go to London’s top strip club after you won a World Cup and there were no girls dancing!
Honestly- Would anyone care if the All Black Spin Doctors told the truth?
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November 4, 2015 10:00am
Michael

Hey Longknives , how are you?
Any luck with you bets yesterday? As I have already pointed out I am not a betting man but had I been I certainly wouldn’t have picked Prince of Penzance. I would have gone for Who Shot the Barman mainly because I went to Whangaehu School with a couple of Oleary’s who were no doubt related to the owners of that horse. One brother, Con [Cornelius] ,was the same age as me. He was a pretty good rugby player who died a few years ago. I found it quite amusing to read how that horse got it’s name.
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November 4, 2015 10:01am
Newbie

Re the sunken yacht in Picton Harbour: Will the police investigate to see if there’s any dead bodies inside it? Or not?
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November 4, 2015 10:02am
Keeping Stock

@ ABS – don’t get them started here…they’re already all over the Stuff story.
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November 4, 2015 10:04am
Lucia Maria

Kowtow,

There’s nothing “Christian” about this either……..pure dhimmitude.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/05/worlds-first-lesbian-bishop-calls-church-remove-crosses-install-muslim-prayer-space/

I agree that the removal of crosses in a church for Muslims to pray is not Christian. I wouldn’t call this specifically dhimmitude, though. It’s more the woman’s lack of a firm grounding in her own faith that is doing this, and probably a desire for attention as well.
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November 4, 2015 10:13am
cha

Planned Parenthood is promoting bestiality.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3NAOpQ58SA
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November 4, 2015 10:17am
Kimbo

@ Newbie

Will the police investigate to see if there’s any dead bodies inside it?

If is anything to do with whom your post implies, as it was over 15 years ago continually immersed in the water it seems unlikely there will be anything to recover.
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November 4, 2015 10:20am
mikenmild

Michael
I can’t stop boasting about this – I got Prince of Penzance in the office sweep so backed him at the tote. Woo hoo1
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November 4, 2015 10:32am
cha

I looked and I looked but nope, no satire tag so this has be the most deranged article ever posted about the war on straight white men. Or lots of marching powder.

GPS challenges one of the few remaining areas of male excellence: navigation. Without ruling the roads, what do we have left? GPS stands for Global Positioning System, but it might as well be Geographic Patriarchy Smasher.Who could have guessed that the age of men would pass not with a bang, but with 24 satellites silently orbiting the earth?

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/02/gps-and-the-turn-by-turn-war-on-men/
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November 4, 2015 10:33am
mikenmild

I’m pretty sure that has to be an attempt at humour, cha.
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November 4, 2015 10:37am
Manolo

Mamma Merkel under the pump: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320651-germany-refugees-crisis-bavaria/

Germany now is somewhere at the edge of anarchy and sliding towards civil war, or to become a “banana republic without any government,” says Hansjoerg Mueller of the Alternative for Germany party.

stephieboy will be horrified:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3302015/Thousands-streets-Pegida-anti-immigration-rally-Germany-group-s-founder-investigated-slander-comparing-justice-minister-Joseph-Goebbels.html

Bavarian official Peter Dreier called German Chancellor Angela Merkel to tell her personally that if Germany welcomes a million refugees, his town of Landshut will only take in around 1,800. Any extra will be put on buses and sent to her Chancellery in Berlin.
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November 4, 2015 10:39am
Kimbo

@ Lucia Maria

It’s more the woman’s lack of a firm grounding in her own faith that is doing this, and probably a desire for attention as well.

Reminds me of the endless victory laps the first woman Anglican bishop in the world was reputed to have made…while pressing pastoral issues in her own diocese seem to have been neglected.

http://bsa.govt.nz/decisions/show/4097

I’m not sure I agree with women clergy, let alone gay clergy (actually I’m about 99% certain on the last one!)…but I know that as long as poeple are falling over themselves to get ordained because “I am a woman/LGBT”, then that motivation means they are one of the last possible candidates you want to have as a pastor. And I’ve had one or two crap ones…

Just saying.
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November 4, 2015 10:39am
cha

Yeah, I’ve read it a couple of times mike and if it is an attempt at parody it’s dripping with a meanness of spirit and overall arseholery.
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November 4, 2015 10:42am
mikenmild

Well, it is Breitbart, after all…
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November 4, 2015 10:44am
cha

Been looking at some of the twitter responses and the fan boy droogies/MGTOW clowns are squawking satire satire – since people started taking the piss.
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November 4, 2015 10:56am
Lucia Maria

Damn, I stuffed up my last comment. The last paragraph was my reply to Kowtow, if that isn’t obvious to everyone.

Kimbo, well, it’s human nature to be into self-glorification. No comments from me about women and/gay clergy, since my opinion as a Catholic is most likely extremely obvious and predictable.

Stephieboy, on EAD … yes. Though, I’d prefer to hear it in his words.
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November 4, 2015 10:59am
Kimbo

@ Lucia Maria

Kimbo, well, it’s human nature to be into self-glorification. No comments from me about women and/gay clergy, since my opinion as a Catholic is most likely extremely obvious and predictable.

Yeah, as Sola Scriptura Protestant I’m pretty much in the same boat…although for slightly different reasons, and there is always the theoretical possibility for us that new data could cause a revision of what we think Scripture likely meant and therefore means…and so what! 😉

Is the same with anyone who has some “issue” or “identity” to push. Maori, Pakeha, etc
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November 4, 2015 11:16am
Longknives

No luck for me yesterday Michael- Being the Patriotic Type I am I was backing Jimmy Cassidy to win his last Cup…
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November 4, 2015 11:56am
Inandout

Matta Merkel watches the scene unfold, and the time is close for draconian laws, ostensibly to restore ‘public order’. In earlier times, after the 1933 Reichstag Fire:

‘Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State:

Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.’

Couldn’t happen in Germany again? I wouldn’t put it past Merkel.
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November 4, 2015 11:57am
Fletch

Muslim invaders in Germany are disappearing from migrant camps. No one knows where to.

More than one in two refugees from the weekend seems to have just disappeared.

https://www.muenchen.tv/share/134859/
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November 4, 2015 12:06pm
Shawn Herles

Multiculturalism and the corruption of the University.

http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2015/01/multiculturalism-and-corruption-of-university.html
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November 4, 2015 12:12pm
Shawn Herles

Sorry, Social Justice Warriors: Political Correctness Has Peaked

“If you’re Social Justice Warrior, you’re a liar. You actively spread absurd falsehoods about the nature of men, women, sex, and culture that can’t withstand even the slightest scrutiny. You change history and conceal facts to fit preferred narratives, even when it costs human lives. You claim the best of intentions yet achieve the worst of outcomes. And through it all, you hate the very nation and political system that have granted you the liberties you so grotesquely abuse.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426452/political-correctness-peaks-social-justice-liberals
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November 4, 2015 12:13pm
Shawn Herles

Poll: By Large Margin, Americans Support Religious Opt-Out for Gay Wedding Participation

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/07/21/ap-poll-gay-marriage-religious-liberty-n2027985
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November 4, 2015 12:15pm
igm

The religion of peace are being asked to increase “Lone Wolf” attacks. Hope sick arses worldwide, one day awake to the fact they must not be welcome anywhere, they are going to be the reason for worldwide war, and must be treated with contempt.
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November 4, 2015 12:16pm
Shawn Herles

The corruption of so called “gay rights” marches on: Gay Father Wants to Get Married to His Gay Son.

http://www.charismanews.com/us/52987-you-won-t-believe-this-gay-father-wants-to-get-married-to-his-gay-son
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November 4, 2015 12:16pm
Shawn Herles

The next major campaign for Liberals has begun: Liberal-Left magazine Salon.com begins promoting Pedophilia.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/disgusting-far-left-magazine-salon-once-again-defends-pedphilia/
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November 4, 2015 12:18pm
Shawn Herles

Houston’s Lesbian Mayor wants men who think they are women to have the right to use women’s public toilets. Do you want the sexually confused and perverts using the same bathroom as your daughter?

http://www.nationalreview.com/houston-mayoral-elections-bathroom-ordinance
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November 4, 2015 12:21pm
Shawn Herles

Atheist Gestapo Putting an End to Christian Activity in Sports

“Atheists are trying to eliminate the free speech of Christian athletes and coaches.

4 WINDS, a sports ministry that stands up for Christian athletes and coaches, believes university and school sports are a target for atheists, as they use the popularity of sports to get their message out as campus leaders at the targeted schools are silent.

“The secular school system is a puppet of atheists even though they claim to be neutral,” says 4 WINDS President Steve McConkey. “Christian free speech is being attacked as most educators are trained at universities that have put God on the shelf and have accepted different forms of Marxism without God. However, many Christian teachers have not bought into the system.”

Bremerton High School, Seattle is on the verge of firing football coach Joe Kennedy for praying at midfield after games, with students joining him. He has done this since 2008.”

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/5535376966.html
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November 4, 2015 12:23pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles, and am sure at one stage the majority of Americans supported segregation and jim Crow ‘

Are you anticipating the setting up of a Christian religious theocracy come 2017 ?
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November 4, 2015 12:24pm
Shawn Herles

Britain: the world’s first politically correct totalitarian state

“Is Britain becoming the world’s first “soft totalitarian” state? That’s the question posed by Hal G P Colebatch in The Australian newspaper.

He writes: “Nikolai Bukharin claimed one of the Bolshevik Revolution’s principal tasks was ‘to alter people’s actual psychology’. Britain is not Bolshevik, but a campaign to alter people’s psychology and create a new Homo britannicus is under way without even a fig leaf of disguise.

“The Government is pushing ahead with legislation that will criminalise politically incorrect jokes, with a maximum punishment of up to seven years’ prison. ”

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/9595417/is_britain_the_worlds_first_politically_correct_totalitarian_state/
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November 4, 2015 12:25pm
Shawn Herles

New Study: Religious Childhood Can Prevent Alcohol and Drug Addictions

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/new-study-religious-childhood-can-prevent-alcohol-and-drug-addictions.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=chupdate
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November 4, 2015 12:26pm
Shawn Herles

Report: New Emails ‘Conflict With’ Hillary’s Benghazi Testimony

“The media and Democrats quickly declared Hillary Clinton the big winner of October’s Benghazi hearings, tongue-wagging about her poise and demeanor under sustained questioning. They obsequiously deflected attention from two ‘smoking gun’ documents produced by the Select Committee, proving that Mrs. Clinton was explicitly aware of the nature of the attack (“we know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack—not a protest”) within hours of its occurrence. Yet days later, Clinton and other key administration figures were still downplaying the politically-problematic truth, pushing the spontaneous protest/online film fable for public consumption. Family members of three separate victims have stated that then-Secretary Clinton repeated the false video claim to their faces at a memorial event on September 14, 2012. By that point Clinton had already told written to her daughter that Benghazi was a terrorist attack carried out by an Al Qaeda offshoot, and told a top Egyptian official that the bloodshed had “nothing to do with the film.””

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/11/03/report-new-emails-reveal-more-hillary-benghazi-inconsistencies-n2075194?utm_source=BreakingOnTownhallWidget_0&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=BreakingOnTownhall
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November 4, 2015 12:29pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles, you would be very naive to blieve that child sexaul abiuse and other kinds of abuse do not occolur in relgious hosueholds and places of worship ?
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November 4, 2015 12:31pm
Shawn Herles

Arbeit Macht Frei!

“So it’s come to this.

Not only do Germans have to put up with hostile illiterate Muslim “refugees” who crowd their public spaces and leave filth in their wake. Not only do they have to endure increased levels of assault, theft, rape, and other crimes. Not only are they forced to keep quiet about it all, to shut their mouths if they don’t want to be prosecuted and/or lose their jobs.

Now it looks like they’ll be forced into the service of the migrants. Under this new proposal, after graduation their choice will be either military service or abject dhimmi servitude to the new Muslim Herrenvolk

An MP for the CDU [Angela Merkel’s party], Eckhardt Rehberg, demands that german youths perform compulsory labor to master the rising numbers of asylum seekers. “We need compulsory service. We have no other way to be able to master the mass of refugees and their integration.”

They are supposed to relieve volunteer workers, who are at their limit of exhaustion. Rehberg said: “We need compulsory service. We have no other way to be able to master the mass of refugees and their integration.” ”

http://gatesofvienna.net/
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November 4, 2015 12:32pm
Nookin

Jack5 made a comment earlier about Chris Rattue’s complete reversal of opinion in relation to Dan Carter. It does seem to illustrate that some of our journalists tend to express an opinion on a whim and either ignore or include facts that support their whim – almost on an arbitrary basis.

Tony Smith is another one. Here is a comment that he made in relation to the Prime Minister’s attendance in the All Black dressing room.

“Yes, it’s incumbent on any PM to be relentlessly positive and show their support for every national sporting team.

But I don’t recall seeing Key at Albany when the New Zealand Black Sox won the 2013 world softball title in his Auckland hometown. He did jet in to South Africa though when the All Whites made the 2010 World Cup finals. Fancy that.”
(http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/73481384/tony-smith-bar-the-all-blacks-dressing-room-door-to-photobombing-prime-minister-john-key).

So, Key didn’t even make an effort to go to the Softball World Champs in his home town? He did, however “jet” into SA for the soccer. How the f… was he expected to get to SA? On a bike?

The Blacksox victory was on 10.3.2013 (http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/8406226/Black-Sox-take-record-breaking-world-title).

It took less than a minute to ascertain that the PM was leading a trade delegation to South America at that time (http://www.nzembassy.com/brazil/relationship-between-new-zealand-and-brazil/new-zealand-and-brazil/new-zealand-prime-minister). What was he supposed to do? “Jet” home, wave the flag at Tony and bugger off back to Brazil?

I wonder if Tony checked to see if the PM was invited to the changing room? Probably not. Facts would probably interfere with petty, sarcastic point scoring as should now be evident.
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November 4, 2015 12:37pm
cha

There’s always the #DuggarFamilyValues
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https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/656889706702049280
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November 4, 2015 12:39pm
Manolo

What will be the result of the Muslim refugee experiment in Germany? Mamma Merkel has opened Pandora’s box.

It cannot be good for the hard-working Germans to have to support such a great number of unskilled people, let alone the loafers, idlers and no-hopers. Social and economic decline could follow.
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November 4, 2015 12:48pm
AgentBallSack

This could get very interesting….

Police are preparing to inspect a mystery wreck found lying on the bottom of Picton Harbour.

They have remained tight-lipped on where the vessel may have come from, despite social media speculation that it might be connected to the Scott Watson case.

The wreck of a 9.8 metre boat was found about 400m east of Wedge Point on Friday during a Defence Force training exercise.
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November 4, 2015 12:48pm
AgentBallSack

Nookin, never let the facts get in the way of a good old Key Bashing.
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November 4, 2015 12:51pm
igm

Six percent unemployed . . . crap, try and get staff in many rural areas, the applicants being too lazy, self-entitled, and a pain in the arse. no wonder many prefer foreigners, they appreciate having a job and treat others’ properties with respect. Come on National, give us figures for unemployable, and also show the number of positions available in the areas of 6% unemployment!
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November 4, 2015 12:53pm
Shawn Herles

Gay ‘rights’ crusader promoting pedophile ‘rights’ too.

“Shortly after Barack Hussein Obama was re-elected in 2012, this Examiner proffered that the US had once again abandoned time-honored American values. The thesis was put forth that Obama keeping office was largely due to his about-face on homosexual “marriage” which had become a championed “civil rights” issue and pet project under his regime.

It was also suggested that once the stalwart concept of marriage began to crumble – that definition being one man, one woman, zero exceptions – that other fringe groups, specifically, pedophiles to name one, would seize the opportunity to hop aboard the wave of success that same-sex pundits were enjoying .

Employing stratagems similar to those of LGBT type groups, sure enough, pedophilia “rights” are being insinuated upon the world and the ramped-up magniloquence, in partnership with soft-sell carpet bagging, is in full view for all to behold.

This is far removed from suggesting there was anything prophetic about the declarations made in this column back then, quite the contrary actually. It only stands to reason that when one moral compromise is made others must surely follow. As a society and more broadly a global culture, the first line drawn in the sand was crossed a very long time ago, and is now so far behind us, that even with our most advanced technology we cannot possibly see it any longer.

Enter the likes of Australian-born English citizen and LGBT social movement activist, former British Parliamentarian Peter Tatchell who believes: ““…all young boys have sex with older warriors as part of their initiation into manhood and allegedly grow up to be happy, well-adjusted husbands and fathers.”

Tatchell concludes that: ““The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy.”

These extremely malicious views are certainly nothing new, having been introduced and promulgated by Tatchell, in the British Parliament long ago. However, the sub-culture in question has been waiting in the wings for such a time as this when the climate has become more “tolerant” and moral norms are daily being tossed upon the burning pile.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/gay-rights-crusader-promoting-pedophile-rights-too
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November 4, 2015 12:57pm
jcuk

Firewall Girl …..Checking the site yet again I realise the second time I went to the site I caught the page part way down and missed the revealing first clip … silly me URRRGH 🙁
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November 4, 2015 12:58pm
Jack5

Anyone hear Dame Devoid on Labour Radio this morning?

First she says there is an unprecedented rise in racial abuse, and then to the interviewer admitted its “very hard to quantify and measure”.

She brought up the Muslim girl who had been in Oman and was rejected by the Defence Force.

Interviewer: Any person faces security checks.

Devoid: “In all essence to me that woman is a New Zealander. … we all need to be treated the same as fellow New Zealanders.”

Then there was a receptionist who made conversation with white school kids, but was gruff with two Fijians.

Devoid is as thick as two planks.

Merkel needs her!
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November 4, 2015 12:59pm
Shawn Herles

The Pedophile Elephant in the Gay Activist Closet

“While millions of Americans are rightly sickened and outraged over the alleged pedophile acts of Jerry Sandusky at Penn State, millions more are totally unaware that gay activists have conveniently swept homosexual pedophilia under the rug.”

http://www.voiceofrevolution.com/2011/11/15/the-pedophile-elephant-in-the-gay-activist-closet/
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November 4, 2015 1:00pm
Manolo

It would be interested to hear stephieboy’s comments on paedophilia, the vile practice so close to the heart of his beloved prophet Mohammad.

C’mon mate, tell us your opinion on the subject.
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November 4, 2015 1:07pm
wreck1080

Hilarious, Len Brown is introducing the all blacks and was booed.

Even on a day like this , people can’t stand him.

Perverse how a man of no integrity has the right to front the AB’s.
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November 4, 2015 1:07pm
Manolo

Griff is everywhere. Now, acting as an advisor to Mamma Merkel:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20151103/eu–germany-merkel-climate-0773add3e3.html

German Chancellor Angela Merkel says the world must do everything it can to meet an international goal to fight global warming, arguing that failing to do so could set off large new waves of refugees.
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November 4, 2015 1:11pm
Griff

Is that like when churchs have conveniently swept homosexual pedophilia under the rug.”

Or is it some how special that raping kiddys arseses is such a acceptable thing for the church priest.

We also have that wonderful example of a christian leader Graham Capill of the aptly named Christian Heritage Party,
He actually emailed his supporters to explain after he was convicted of sicko acts with girls under twelve.
It was not his fault they were gagging for it .
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November 4, 2015 1:13pm
kowtow

The wreck in Picton is a Spanish caravelle ……………………………………………………..you heard it here first……………..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvyRjVQLjE
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November 4, 2015 1:14pm
bringbackdemocracy

You have to love the Flag debate.

http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/new-zealand-send-100-trainers-help-train-iraqi-forces/
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November 4, 2015 1:15pm
Left Right and Centre

Perverse how a man of no integrity has the right to front the AB’s.

“I certainly learnt a lot from the counselling I received at Taeaomanino Trust. I have taken full responsibility for my actions, I am taking every step to change my behaviour and I am now looking forward to the future without violence.”

At the Bulldogs he was a teenager seldom out of trouble, charged for drink-driving and urinating in public before he was captured by a tabloid photographer in a compromising position with a model in Sydney’s Clovelly Hotel

Those poor puritan saints sharing a stage with a fornicator . . .
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November 4, 2015 1:28pm
Newbie

Kimbo at 10.20am – yes I was aware there’s probably nothing after 15 years under water. I was going to write “skeletons” but thought that sounded too goulish.
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November 4, 2015 1:37pm
Michael

miken, you jammy bastard, any chance of a loan?
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November 4, 2015 1:47pm
stephieboy

“Ahmed Chalabi, Iraqi politician who championed US invasion, dies.”

Ahmed Chalabi, the Iraqi politician most associated with persuading the US to invade in 2003, has died aged 71.

“Officials said he was found dead at his home in Baghdad in his bed, apparently having suffered a heart attack.

The secular Shia was once championed by the US as a potential leader of Iraq.

But they fell out after the invasion turned into a bloody occupation, and information which he had provided about Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction capability was discredited.

Mr Chalabi was also in charge of the commission that stripped members of Saddam’s Baath party of their positions and is seen as one of the causes of the current sectarian strife in Iraq….”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34709685

Small wonder why Obama was reluctant to put boots on the ground second time around .

Chalabi duped the Bush administration into believing there were WMD.
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November 4, 2015 1:52pm
Manolo

What to do?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/refugees-horror-calais-jungle-refugee-camp-feel-like-dying-slowly

A five-minute taxi ride from central Calais, past the seafront restaurants serving moules and chips to tourists, past the Majestic wine cash and carry, and just beyond the neat back gardens at the edge of the town, suddenly there is a devastating vision of Europe’s refugee crisis. One minute, you are driving through placid suburbia; the next minute, you are deposited at the entrance to a sprawling shantytown, where conditions appear worse than in the slums of Mumbai, a camp that is now home to more than 6,000 people, many of them vulnerable and unwell.
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November 4, 2015 2:02pm
sam green

Shawn Herles – you and the numbskulls you quote appear quite certifiable.
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November 4, 2015 2:17pm
Surely Knott

I live in lefty land and everytime something goes wrong I hear it’s the govt’s fault for cutting mental health, police services and environmental budgets as well. Is this factually accurate, does anyone know? Which of these budgets have been cut under JK and by how much?
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November 4, 2015 3:16pm
Stars And Stripes

I see Shearer and a couple of National MP’s are heading to Burma to monitor elections and ensure they are corruption free.
Well I reckon they should stay in NZ and go taniwha hunting as the odds of success are better I reckon.
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November 4, 2015 3:42pm
SPC

A few days ago Theo Zwanziger was claiming that Dempsey was bribed

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/10/was_dempsey_bribed.html

Police raided offices of the German Football Federation (DFB) and homes of top officials on Tuesday over tax evasion allegations, as a scandal surrounding graft claims over the awarding of the 2006 World Cup widened.

“There were raids at the DFB headquarters as well as at homes of three accused – the DFB president, former DFB president and former general secretary,” said a spokeswoman for prosecutors, without naming names.

The three are understood to be current DFB chief Wolfgang Niersbach, his predecessor Theo Zwanziger and ex-general secretary Horst Schmidt.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11539586
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November 4, 2015 3:45pm
SPC

shawn, went to two of your links.

1. The gay father who wanted to marry his gay son was actually the man’s lover when he adopted him – in the days before same sex marriage. He now wants to end the adoption and marry his partner.

2. salon.com was not defending pedophilia, it simply published an account from a pedophile about living with his condition.

Misrepresentation much?
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November 4, 2015 4:38pm
Manolo

Love Paki-style: http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/pakistan-woman-set-on-fire-for-refusing-marriage-proposal-dies/ar-BBmLZuD

A young Pakistani woman died on Tuesday after a rejected suitor set her ablaze for refusing his marriage proposal, a doctor said. Sonia Bibi, 20, was admitted to hospital last month, where she told police that her former lover Latif Ahmed had doused her with petrol and set her alight after she turned down his proposal.

Hundreds of women are murdered in Pakistan each year in cases of domestic violence or on the grounds of defending family “honour”.
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November 4, 2015 4:40pm
SPC

The Germans who lorded it over Europe with their smug control of the purse strings and requiring austerity across the EU now humbled by their monumental refugee policy disaster (that will snowball on and on for years) – do Greeks know the word schadenfreude, as they wave refugees on bye on their way to Germany?
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