General Debate 12 February 2017

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Chuck Bird

I have an interesting meal out out in the Tron with a group. I meant my first American refugee – a Bernie Sanders supporter and voter. She is very nice and pretty. I think she should be allowed to stay.
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February 12, 2017 8:05am
- dime
  
  Pretty and dumb. A timeless combination
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:14am
  - holysheet
    
    Must have been blonde as well?
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:00am
- Nostradamus
  
  Chuck:
  
  I remember you had a very unpleasant experience last year.
  
  I just got home early after I was invited out for dinner. The lady concerned on seeing the news about the last atrocities by the camel jockey’s said it was the American’s fault. She then accused me of being anti women and any short people. She is not a midget be a littler over 5′ i had not taken any notice previously. I thanked her for the nice dinner and left.
  
  Go on – ask her out!
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:16am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    She would probably be young enough to be my granddaughter but she was pleasant company and had a good sense of humour. I told her the Maori used to be cannibals but had given up the practice some time ago.
    
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    February 12, 2017 8:28am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Chuck:
      
      She would probably be young enough to be my granddaughter
      
      Ok – forget about my suggestion to ask her out!
      
      I told her the Maori used to be cannibals but had given up the practice some time ago.
      
      Just for a laugh, you should’ve told her that the practice is revived once a year, so she should keep a very low profile on Waitangi Day!
      
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      February 12, 2017 8:34am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “She then accused me of being anti women and any short people. ”
    
    Females are such hypocrites!
    
    Ask all those guys under average height how hard it is to get girls attention.
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:08am
    - G152
      
      Yup. They should be happy that theres a man who looks up to them
      
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      February 12, 2017 10:46am
  - Longknives
    
    Reminds me- There is a thing doing the rounds on Facebook (trying to find it again) where a French Woman is claiming the Soldiers ‘Attacked’ that Muslim Guy at the Louvre..
    Unfreakingbelievable..
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:22am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Well it is true, but only after he attacked them with the machetes, the adage, don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story, applies.
      
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      February 12, 2017 9:33am
- Inandout
  
  Was she a honey pot?
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:29am
- cmm
  
  Sounds like drama.
  
  I’d rather put my dick in a blender.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:40am
- BeeSting
  
  WHY DON’T COMMUNISTS TO GO LIVE
  IN NORTH KOREA AND IF THEY LOVE
  ISLAMIC IMMIGRATION
  
  WHY WHY WHY DON’T THEY GO
  LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA
  
  WHY COME TO NZ?
  
  are we allowed to ask
  
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  February 12, 2017 3:19pm
duggledog

The ethics of prostitution in today’s Herald –

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11797730

The madam running the brothel in Whangarei says she isn’t a whore, but she sure is something else.

Her youngest worker is 19 and says after finding nothing suitable in the ordinary workplace, she’s turned to massage at the brothel with a view to sex work shortly. So she can ‘do things’. Didn’t want to go on the benefit.

Again, the madam doesn’t do the dirty work. She’s just taking advantage.

Awful woman. Should go back to the US. Now the Herald’s headlining her as some sort of paragon of virtue.
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February 12, 2017 8:05am
- dime
  
  I didn’t click cause I knew the story would be garbage.
  
  My best friend ran a brothel for years in Sydney.
  
  She would have girls apply in their school uniforms ffs.
  
  Here’s the thing, she could employ an 18 year old at her high end establishment. Where she knows they won’t be mistreated and fed drugs.. Or say no and the girl goes to the low end brothel. What do you do? You can try and talk them out of it.. But some girls want the cash..
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:17am
  - holysheet
    
    Dime, is ‘My best friend” a euphemism for I or Dime?
    ~~My best friend~~ Dime ran a brothel for years in Sydney.
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:06am
    - dime
      
      Nah man. Not me. I was a customer only in that world.
      
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      February 12, 2017 9:43am
      - sam green
        
        Oh the irony …
        
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        February 12, 2017 8:18pm
- cmm
  
  You or I might not like the lifesyle decisions these people have made, but at least they are performing services that people want on the free market.
  
  If the 19 year old was at home on the benefit it would mean that she was using the power of the state to point their guns at you and take your money under threat of violence. And she’d be giving away her services for free to some gangsta head-banger.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:34am
  - jonar
    
    she was using the power of the state to point their guns at you and take your money under threat of violence
    
    Is that what retirees on super are doing?
    
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    February 12, 2017 1:33pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      yes, but the difference between DPB,dole and super is that most of us (hope) to eventually be on the receiving end of that largess. Even though demographics and increasing lifespans make it a pretty unlikely that productive people who have saved for their retirement will be getting superannuation from tax payers in 20-30 years time:
      http://www.indexmundi.com/new_zealand/age_structure.html
      
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      February 12, 2017 5:27pm
    - cmm
      
      The difference of the super is that it was essentially sold to us effectively a government run communal retirement scheme – we all put into it for 45 or so years then we get a payout.
      
      That is very different to people just taking without putting in.
      
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      February 12, 2017 5:56pm
    - GazzaW
      
      That’s right jonar. In between looking after their grandkids because their dysfunctional Gen Y children can’t handle the complexities of a permanent relationship and being part of a vast unpaid volunteer army that keeps the social services of this country running. You’ll get your turn soon enough.
      
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      February 12, 2017 6:40pm
- BeeSting
  
  Legislation Changed
  
  SO RICH FAT SLIMEY COMMUNISTS COULD COME TO NEW ZEALAND ON SEX TOURS
  
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  February 12, 2017 3:20pm
kowtow

Diversity dividend paying off for the multicultis in Europe , the same people who condemn Trumps temporary travel ban.

“The 45-year-old Danish citizen is of Lebanese heritage, while the 38-year-old Swede has links to Iraq. According to the Anatolia news agency and other Turkish media, the pair have received training in terrorism during visits to Syria over several years, where they claimed to be participating in relief work.”

http://www.thelocal.se/20170211/swedish-and-danish-citizens-arrested-in-turkey-accused-of-planning-terror-reports

But wait there’s more…..

” The 16-year-old girl has been described as a recent convert to Islam and one of her neighbours told the tabloid BT that her Facebook page indicated that she wanted to convert other Danes to the religion. TV2 also reported that the girl’s profile page indicated that she was a member of Facebook group for ethnic Danish members of Hizb ut-Tahrir, an Islamic group that openly supports the establishment of a caliphate and that has been at the centre of numerous controversies in Denmark.”

http://www.thelocal.dk/20170210/denmark-files-terrorism-charge-against-16-year-old-girl
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February 12, 2017 8:06am
jonar

Hmm, right-wingers annoyed at how the US Democracy works. Snowflakes?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/89317066/donald-trumps-attacks-on-judge-prompt-threats-and-safety-concerns

When a judge who helped derail President Donald Trump’s travel ban was hit with online threats, the abuse raised safety concerns among jurists across the country, and experts are worried that the president’s own attacks on the judiciary could make judges a more inviting target.
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February 12, 2017 8:08am
- Gabby
  
  Not possible. Rightards are decent upstanding patriots who would not stoop to threats of violins.
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:15am
- G152
  
  Oh dear dear dear.
  There’s always a price to pay.
  Poor little snow flakes having to be responsible for their actions.
  Quick.
  Get the crayons and colouring books out and the safe space all nice and cuddly…
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:28am
- artemisia
  
  And here is our very own snowflake, emotional, hurt and angry. Lisa Yorke. Because a guy has a Confederate flag in his service station.
  
  Miss Yorke said to see a flag so closely associated with white supremacy and slavery on display in a business stirred her emotions.
  
  “I just don’t think it’s right, here in New Zealand, especially when we’re such an inclusive society. It’s like having a Nazi flag or a picture of Hitler in the shop. It’s in a place of business. I know for myself I did not want to walk in there. I was hurt and angry and couldn’t understand why it was here in New Zealand.”
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11798925
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:29am
  - holysheet
    
    I guess she will exercise her rights and bypass this business and buy her petrol somewhere else?
    Be a shame if it was the only one for miles around?
    Whats a snowflake like her doing buying petrol in the first place?
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:36am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Don’t you mean accelerant?
      
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      February 12, 2017 9:44am
  - cmm
    
    The democratic party is more closely linked to slavery than the Confederate flag.
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:42am
    - stephieboy
      
      Like the Nazi salute by Richard Spencer and Trump followers.
      
      All Heil Trump !
      
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      February 12, 2017 10:50am
      - cmm
        
        I’ll try logic with you one last time and see if you respond will to that. Otherwise I think I’ll just have to break a principle of never down-ticking.
        
        Richard Spencer might be a Trump follower and he might have done a Nazi salute (though some say it was a Hail Caesar – style Roman salute).
        
        That is not the point though – that was not endorsed by or encouraged by Trump.
        
        The Democratic Party was pro-slavery/anti-black as an official party line right up until the 1960s if not later.
        
        Here’s a summary
        http://russp.us/racism.htm, but please go look for actual source documents yourself.
        
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        February 12, 2017 1:36pm
    - cha
      
      The democratic party is more closely linked to slavery than the Confederate flag
      
      It was, right up until the Civil Rights Act and dixiecrats Thurmond and Helms joining the Republican party.
      
      The rot set in and in 1964 Republican Barry Goldwater, who voted against the Civil Rights Act, swept the field and took the Southern states. By 1968, the Republicans had decided to focus on winning the white vote and the solid south went red. Kevin Phillips, Nixon’s political strategist, explained –
      
      From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.
      
      http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/books/phillips-southern.pdf
      
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      February 12, 2017 1:05pm
  - mikenmild
    
    A new coffee shop here in the Hutt has a large mural of Che Guevara on the wall. Just give it a miss if you don’t approve of the decor. Or have a quiet word to the proprietor – lots of businesses appreciate feedback.
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:52am
  - BeeSting
    
    Sorry Didn’t Hear You Was Listening to Music
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z499WFdQN-4
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:44am
  - BeeSting
    
    Jesus I wanted to Suggest NZ adopt that
    Confederate flag after the
    
    CHINA-TIONAL SOCIALISTs of NZ attempted
    to WIPE THEIR FAT BLOATED LAZY USELESS
    GORMLESS IGNORANT MIDDLE NZ
    LAZY BACK SIDES ON OUR FLAG
    
    SO THEY COULD SELL OUR COUNTRY
    FURTHER DOWN THE TOILET TO THEIR
    CREEPY AS ALL HELL COMMUNIST MATES
    
    THAT WOULD MAKE A GREAT
    as the NEW NEW NEW NEW
    
    NEW NEW NEW ZEALAND FLAG
    
    Just Put Aotearoa NZ on it and we are done
    
    Bring All the People in from the American
    South who are being Demographically replaced
    by OBAMAs Communists and Islamic psychopaths.
    
    GET OVER IT
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOozDHL0LA
    
    F ***K OBAMA
    
    F ***K OBAMA
    
    HANG THAT FLAG HIGH
    
    HANG IT LOUD AND PROUD
    
    The WAR IN THE SOUTH HAD NOTHING
    WHAT SO EVER TO TO WITH SLAVERY
    
    IT WAS THE FIRST BATTLE
    
    OF THE SCUM COMMUNIST REVOLUTION
    
    THAT IS WHY LINCOLN
    WAS TALKING TO KARL MARX
    
    LOOK IT UP AND NEGROES KEPT
    SLAVES AND SOLD THEM
    
    ONE MORE TIME
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GxWmSVv-cY
    
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    February 12, 2017 3:36pm
- Inandout
  
  How unusual for Stuff to write anti Trump stuff.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:32am
Happychappy

You have to wonder whether Andrew Little has decided to go after Winstons vote with the courting of Grey Power at their health for the elderly inquiry in Takaka this weekend. Well it is going to be interesting to count the numbers that attended and the cost of holding it in this small town.
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February 12, 2017 8:15am
- Gabby
  
  They might have pies. You should trot along.
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:16am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Do you just wait for HC to post so you can make another pathetic one liner?
    
    8:15 then 8:16
    
    You could at least try and be funny FFS
    
    You really are a sad individual
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:59am
duggledog

Happychappy

Takaka is Green Party country. Full of old hippies from the 70s, and wealthy Germans and Yanks who come here and try to tell us how to treat the environment after wrecking theirs.
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February 12, 2017 8:19am
- cmm
  
  You, chardonnay socialists wouldn’t want any blue collars in the neighbourhood – unless they come through the service entrance.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:46am
- VicParking
  
  They wont get many attending they are all down at the coast saving the Whales.
  
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  February 12, 2017 1:55pm
duggledog

You’re right of course Dime but classy establishment or shit, the end result is the same.

Prostitution wrecks women.

The ones it doesn’t affect are already mentally wrecked.

My point with that Whangarei article is that however you look at it, the madam is an evil person taking advantage of a 19 year old in a minimum wage town who failed at school.

If she was your daughter, would you try and talk her out of it? Girls who ‘want the cash’ should be talked out of it in any way possible. They always regret it later.
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February 12, 2017 8:21am
- cmm
  
  Would you prefer your daughter on welfare?
  
  Sure the outcomes for most prostitutes might be bad, but the outcomes for single women on welfare don’t look any better.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:48am
- sam green
  
  Dime just talked about using prostitutes – him ok? Her bad?
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:25pm
The Virgin

Greg Presland (bitter and twisted gnome from The Standard) missed out on the nomination for New Lynn to a ‘women who is a tax expert’.
Oh happy days 🙂
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February 12, 2017 8:22am
- GazzaW
  
  Maybe Andrew will offer him a ‘sure fire’ place on the list.
  
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  February 12, 2017 6:46pm
MT_Tinman

How come in every report I see about the Free the Nipple Campaign the photos have the nipples blacked out!
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February 12, 2017 8:22am
- Gabby
  
  They’re not blacked out, they’ve been set free.
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:31am
- Disaster Area
  
  I’ve watched a couple of episodes of Botched, where two plastic surgeons try to repair the work of other plastic surgeons.
  The thing that struck me is that the producers are quite happy to show some bits of surgery (especially breasts) but always blur out the nipples.
  Just what is it about a nipple that causes so much outrage?
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:06am
  - burt
    
    It’s a ban on advertising fast food for babies.
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:10am
    - pdm
      
      Very good Burt.
      
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      February 12, 2017 9:35am
  - holysheet
    
    Dunnno, I am looking down at one now and its nothing to write home about. Every body has them, whats the fuss?
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:11am
  - Gabby
    
    It leaks. Leaking is bad. Female leaking is inconceivable. As it were.
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:17am
    - G152
      
      Having a baby is scarcely ‘inconceivable’
      
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      February 12, 2017 10:50am
  - VicParking
    
    They did one on a guy who had breast implants, they did not blur out his nipples. Shows how fucked America is.
    
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    February 12, 2017 1:58pm
sooty

No parking avaliable in Takaka, this weekend. All taken up with zimmer frames and mobility scooters. Special buses haven been put on to transport all the rest home residents.
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February 12, 2017 8:24am
- Happychappy
  
  But Winston was there so the pub would have missed out.
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:36am
  - Gabby
    
    Where did you park your low loader?
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:18am
Padriv Ustoev

Somebody joked a few days ago that My Little Pony will probably do a woman’s day article to boost her profile soon.

Sure enough. An in depth article about her retro home on Stuff.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/89238813/at-my-place-jacinda-arderns-1990s-brick-and-tile

Guess what Jacinda, still can’t take you seriously despite home down to earth and retro you home is.
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February 12, 2017 8:27am
- Nostradamus
  
  The first sentence in the article Padriv Ustoev’s linked to:
  
  Tipped as a future prime minister, Jacinda Ardern is Labour’s hip MP, known for hanging out in Auckland’s ‘It’ crowd and was even once asked to DJ at the Laneway music festival.
  
  Good grief!
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:29am
  - Souvlaki
    
    Part of early plan to knife Little after last weeks imbroglio!
    
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    February 12, 2017 8:48am
  - Komata
    
    ‘Hip’? ‘It’ crowd’?, ‘Once even asked to DJ…’?
    
    Really?
    
    Who on earth actually ‘cares’??
    
    Give us a break please Stuff, or at least move into the Twenty-first Century.
    
    Totally ridiculous (and another reason why I don’t bother reading the ‘stuff’ that appears on that site).
    
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    February 12, 2017 6:50pm
- dime
  
  Yeah man. Called it a couple of weeks ago.
  
  Didn’t take a genius to make said call either.
  
  The usual shite
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:02am
- Southern Raider
  
  No kids and she claims her house is “chaotic”
  
  Try having a couple of kids under 5
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:10am
  - dime
    
    Yeah I laughed at that bit.
    
    It looks like a half empty cold house to me
    
    I didn’t read it all, did she tell us how young she is?
    
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    February 12, 2017 9:45am
    - Southern Raider
      
      36
      
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      February 12, 2017 10:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    Southerm Raider , your house run by an unruly and undiscipled under 5 year olds ?
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:54am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Bloody oath
      
      It’s called kids exploring, playing outside and learning, rather than being liberal pets
      
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      February 12, 2017 2:30pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Entitlement syndrome rules in your household ?
        
        Bloody Oath !
        
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        February 12, 2017 3:27pm
- Huevon
  
  If she bought a place in Pt Chev, she can’t be that hard done by. There must some coin in spouting Leftist crap day after day.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:39am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Bet she was wishing she was a capitalist.
    
    Only being able to buy a brick and tile 90s house after all her life living on over paid public funded jobs isn’t much of an achievement
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:00am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Don’t worry, shes a lefty. You can guarantee she and her partner Clark own a secret sprawling beach house on the Coromandel.
      
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      February 12, 2017 11:56am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I stand corrected. Although we don’t know what Clarke owns.
        
        “Jacinda Ardern (Labour, List)
        
        Real property
        Apartment, Freemans Bay, Auckland
        
        Superannuation schemes
        AMP State Sector Superannuation Scheme (no contributions since 2005)
        AMP Retail Superannuation Scheme
        ANZ KiwiSaver
        Fidelity Life Super Plan
        
        Creditors
        Westpac Bank – mortgage
        
        Overseas travel costs
        Switzerland – attendance at the World Economic Forum Young Global Leaders
        annual meeting, August 2015. Contributor to travel: World Economic Forum.
        
        Gifts
        Tickets to Civic show and tickets to the 2015 Nines – ATEED
        Tickets to Oprah – SWISSE
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:03pm
      - stephieboy
        
        ABS, fail to see your point . Jacinda seems a wise and prudent citizen which we all can emulate .
        
        Inluding those like you !
        
        Or should she maybe like you take a vow of poverty ?
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:11pm
    - Gabby
      
      Who do you think is getting daddy’s place?
      
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      February 12, 2017 2:21pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Huevon , do share with us about your lifetime at the top ?
    
    https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/382/720382.jpg
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:55am
- niggly
  
  What a cool, hip comfy and roomy house, plus she’s not always there when she is working in Wellington, so perhaps she could offer to make a couple of spare rooms available to house the homeless (especially those ones that have trouble renting HNZ places for some reason and are put up in Motels, which is an incwedible amount of tax-payers money that could be redistributed for other worthy causes for the people hurrah)!
  
  The positive and enduring media coverage will propel Jacinda straight to the top of the Labour Leadership ratings, Grant might even have to be the Deputy now, it’s win-win-win all round!
  
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  February 12, 2017 11:47am
- RF
  
  Just posted another comment on stuff concerning madam Jacinda. Typical but not published as I was critical of her.
  
  I think out of 12 only 1 has been published.
  
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  February 12, 2017 6:36pm
mandk

PM establishes his bloke credentials:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/89313060/sheep-sheering-whiz-pm-takes-down-a-legend-at-world-champs

I wonder what Andrew Little could do to establish his.
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February 12, 2017 8:35am
- Happychappy
  
  Bull shit doesn’t count
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:39am
- Nostradamus
  
  Mandk:
  
  That’s already been taken care of – in the form of a rug.
  
  Andrew Little’s been immortalised in the nude, in rug form, by Whanganui artist Mark Rayner.
  …
  The framed work depicts a remarkably muscular Little standing with arms folded against a red background. But there’s a whole lot more to the image, and Rayner has been quite generous in his portrayal of the Labour leader’s other assets.
  
  All I can say is, if Andrew Little has big balls, he doesn’t seem to be able to use them when it comes to leading a political party.
  
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  February 12, 2017 8:41am
  - mandk
    
    That doesn’t count – it needs to be something he can do himself.
    
    Maybe he should go down to Farewell Spit to sing a waiata to a dying whale.
    
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    February 12, 2017 8:52am
  - cmm
    
    The last Labour leader with any balls was Clark.
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:08am
  - niggly
    
    Is it true that Andrew Little was happy to partake in that Rug publicity stunt because at the time John Key was making inroads appealing to Labour’s traditional constituents (like being the headlining politician visiting the Big Gay Out for example), so Little decided to break new ground by being the first to win over the “well hung” voter block? 🙂
    
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    February 12, 2017 12:01pm
    - sooty
      
      Nah, he got no balls.
      
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      February 12, 2017 12:22pm
duggledog

Jacinda has to win Mt Albert and become PM because she’s going to be the breadwinner in her humble home, and for a while too it seems.

Her partner Clark Gayford was on National Radio’s ‘The Panel’ a lot last year telling us how he spent all his money making a fishing show where he goes all round the world… fishing.

Oh, how the other ‘arf live.

Those Labour people – and he is one – really know how to do it tough.
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February 12, 2017 8:43am
- Gabby
  
  Notorious homebody Ponyboy hardly left the house of course.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:20am
- Longknives
  
  “Comrades, Comrades, Comrades..”
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:26am
  - niggly
    
    Who could forget! Bet those speeches of hers to the International Union of Socialist Youth look really, really cool and mighty inspiring when played back on their living room’s 70″ flat-panel display!
    
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    February 12, 2017 12:10pm
    - Komata
      
      But Niggly, it was for the ‘Poor’ and the ‘Oppressed’ don’t you know…
      
      Someone’s got to take the ‘punishment’ for living in a capitalist world… (They always do BTW).
      
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      February 12, 2017 6:55pm
- Inandout
  
  So if she ever becomes PM she will live apart from her gallivanting seafaring partner? Helen had a similar ‘distance’ arrangement with Peter I seem to remember.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:37am
  - stigie
    
    “Helen had a similar ‘distance’ arrangement with Peter I seem to remember.”
    
    Yes…..but that was another story !~
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:05am
- cmm
  
  So here’s how the Jacinda household connects with the working class:
  * Childless (well I supposed that worked for Clark).
  * Swanning around the world flyfishing.
  * Overseas holidays on tropical beaches.
  
  About the only place she can claim any common ground would be working in the fish and chips shop.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:14am
  - Southern Raider
    
    You missed never actually working in the private sector (apart for that one night scooping chips)
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:02am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, so she should be living your kind of slummy and scummy lifestyle ?
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:59am
    - Inandout
      
      No, but instead of living on Ponsonby Hill she should spend 6 months in one of Mt Roskill’s most Muslim infested streets.
      
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      February 12, 2017 12:31pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Inandout , something of which you’re fully familiar with having lived or stayed at length ?
        
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        February 12, 2017 3:30pm
Odakyu-sen

Ah, buzzwords…
Ref: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11799076

Quote: “I don’t care if you were born here, you don’t have the right to be here. I was f****** born here, I own this f****** [unclear] now get the f*** off, you ugly f****** Muslim b****,” the woman says.

Unkind? (To be sure.) Xenophobic? (Yes.) But I can’t see any reference to race.

Anyone want to hazard a guess at the ethnicity of the aggressive attacking woman? (A local, I assume.)
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February 12, 2017 8:48am
- Southern Raider
  
  Without even looking at the photo it has to be a chosen one
  
  Multiple f&&& in one rant, plus references to I own this, I was born here etc
  
  Looks like Tainui is doing a fantastic job
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:06am
- Gabby
  
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  Jap?
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:21am
  - Jack5
    
    What do you mean by use of that derogatory and racist word, Gabby?
    
    Given your leftist views and Odakyu-sen’s apparent conservatism, are you making a racist smear against this respected and valued Kiwiblog contributor?
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:26am
    - Jack5
      
      Kiwibloggers! Let’s give that racist remark by Gabby enough downticks to shut it out of the thread.
      
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      February 12, 2017 10:38am
    - Gabby
      
      Jap is short for Japanese, Jacksie, you can’t be as ignorant a fucknuckle as not to know that. I was hazarding a guess as to the ethnicity of the aggressive attacking woman, at the invitation of this respected and valued Kiwiblog contributor. Shitforbrains.
      
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      February 12, 2017 2:15pm
      - Jack5
        
        Gabby you are a vile leftist racist.
        
        The word you used is offensive and derogatory, but of course you knew that.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap
        
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        February 12, 2017 3:02pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Like paki is short for pakistani? Try using that England sometime.
        
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        February 12, 2017 5:37pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack 5 , but not a rag or towl head ?
        
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        February 12, 2017 5:51pm
      - realityczech
        
        I see what you meant Gabby, it was just fun. But the virtue signallers went straight on the attack to show us all how superior they are. Don’t take it personally, they don’t mean a word they say.
        
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        February 12, 2017 6:21pm
    - Gabby
      
      Even wiki says you’re a lying sack o’ shit, Jacksie.
      
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      February 12, 2017 3:16pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “Nan no go-you desu ka.”
    
    (Google it.)
    * Note honorific use of “go-” prefix, which is more than you deserve.
    
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    February 12, 2017 12:50pm
    - Gabby
      
      Google your hole.
      
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      February 12, 2017 2:16pm
- GoVege
  
  Poor deluded gal has obviously been brought up on a diet of “the thieving Pakeha stole our land”.
  If they were honest with themselves, they might figure out that having 10 kids on the benny and never bothering to educate them, is the real reason for their poverty.
  And Pakeha in fact rescued them from slavery and worse.
  
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  February 12, 2017 1:27pm
GoVege

Loved the remark by the Russians the other day referring to the US’s new leadership as “amateur “.
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February 12, 2017 8:48am
Happychappy

Well done Liverpool what a way to break a losing streak beating Tottenham and still staying ahead of my beloved Man U after they won earlier.
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February 12, 2017 8:49am
Maggy Wassilieff

Australian Green Party in disarray… might also be short of cash
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/02/01/gree-f01.html
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February 12, 2017 8:59am
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/89314531/jonathan-milne-to-allow-mugabes-man-to-stay-would-be-foolish-to-send-him-back-to-zimbabwe-would-be-criminal

A morally interesting case.

Here’s a man who has taken part in multiple state-sanctioned murders, tortures, etc who came into NZ on a fake passport and is claiming asylum.

He says he was acting under duress and tried to get away many times so should not be held accountable for his actions.

To some extent I can draw a parallel to, say, the hundreds of thousands of white South Africans (of which I was one) who were conscripted and sent off to fight what is now considered an evil war which often involved murder and torture. Many too were conscripted into the police – much worse.

One real difference is that the South African were generally still subject to the law. Murdering a civilian would get you into real trouble. A bloke I was at school with was a cop and ended up in jail for torturing a suspect to death.
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February 12, 2017 9:15am
- Huevon
  
  Generally, I’m opposed to refugee resettlement because the Left use it as a means to destroy western civilisation, but I’m open to exceptional cases. This guy could make good in NZ. If he genuinely wants to start again, he should get away from the violent, corrupt culture in Zimbabwe. As long as he supports himself here, he can stay.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    Again the erudite wit and wisdom of Huevon !
    
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    February 12, 2017 5:35pm
  - Komata
    
    huevon
    
    I notice that you used the word ‘Could’. Perhaps, but I would strongly suggest that Leopards do not change spots, especially as he used deceit to get here.
    
    There is also the small matter that of the several thousand WHITE Rhodesians’ in New Zealand, who have very long memories and who would, I am sure, really like to have a conversation with him (for HIS benefit and education of course; to make him feel welcome…).
    
    I somehow doubt that the NZ Police would be very keen to provide 24/7 protection for this particular individual…
    
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    February 12, 2017 7:05pm
- SGA
  
  Interesting – there are also similarities (and differences) with the issue of extradiction of World War concentration camp guards who were just following orders in the years following WWII .
  I think a “Godwin” is allowed in this case?
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:29am
- Jack5
  
  This African thug is represented by lawyer Deborah Manning, who led the campaign to get former Algerian Islamicist politician Ahmed Zaoui residency despite Zaoui’s illegal entry into the country after he had been under the watch of Western intelligence agencies.
  
  Manning has also given high praise to the Refugee Council’s late secretary, Kailesh Thanabalasingham, who may or may not have been the same Kailesh Thanabalasingham who was deported from Canada because of links with a violent criminal gang.
  
  The diversity and multiculture-promoting MSM are keeping their noses out of the Kailesh Thanabalasingham mystery. The media silence is extraordinary.
  
  Deborah Manning has long been a heroine to lefties, however.
  
  I would let the Zimbabwean thug stay, but hand him over to some of the Zimbabwean farmer survivors who have settled in NZ. Many of them or their families and friends were beaten and bashed because their skins were white by maniac Mugabe’s thugs.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:54am
  - Jack5
    
    David Cunliffe, when he led the party, brought Deborah Manning into Labour as deputy chief of staff to Matt McCarten.
    
    Presumably she’s still in the Labour hierarchy.
    
    Another good reason not to vote Labour! With the Greens wanting more refugees and Manning having the inside running, our borders would be wide open under a Labour-Greens government.
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11237971
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:03am
  - tusker
    
    We’ve lost the plot big time, if we give this vile person residency. In addition to committing many vicious tortures and murders he has, by his own admission, participated in brutal rapes. ‘Reluctantly’….. apparently.
    
    And, dear suckers for a sob story, he apparently gave money to some victims to help them escape the clutches of his equally repulsive colleagues. What process he used to select who he murdered, raped , or ‘helped’, is not explained.
    
    Shades of Goering attempting to show what a decent person he really was by allowing two jewish women who cared for him after he was wounded in the Munich putsch, to escape Germany.
    
    Many gullible Kiwis probably actually believe what this heinous individual is claiming about his life in Zimbabwe. Crazy.
    
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    February 12, 2017 3:38pm
- stephieboy
  
  cmm,”..of white South Africans (of which I was one) ..”
  
  Life is full of pleasant surprsies !
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:57am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @stephieboy
    You are here everyday, every minute as far as I can ascertain… did you forget that cmm has previously told us that he is from South Africa?
    Memory problems, old chap; or too many people posting under one alias?
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:57am
    - stephieboy
      
      Maggy W , thank you for the information but also do note certain white South Aficans also bring certain alt right baggage with them .
      
      OK ?
      
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      February 12, 2017 12:02pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Oh great, thanks for that information.
        I had no idea…
        I thought white South Africans were part of our Commonwealth and rugby-loving brethren.
        
        Gosh, who would have guessed, eh, that practitioners of apartheid may have some alt-right baggage?
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:11pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W, during the apartheid era South Africa left the commonwealth and became a White Nationalist Republic .
        
        Under Nelson Mandela they re joined .
        
        Many ex pat White South Africans here appear to pine for former pre Mandela good old days .
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:16pm
      - Jack5
        
        The post of Stephie X at 12.02 included this:
        
        … certain white South Aficans also bring certain alt right baggage with them .
        
        As opposed to the caravan trains – to the container loads, even ship loads – of medieval Islamic-extremist mental junk that some Muslims bring with them to New Zealand.
        
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        February 12, 2017 1:24pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack 5 ,” certain ” or all Muslims ?
        
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        February 12, 2017 3:33pm
- fernglas
  
  Befehl ist Befehl. An order is an order. Didn’t work at Nuremberg and I don’t see why it should work here. Duress is a defence to many crimes, but not murder, rape or torture. What he has confessed to doing is squarely within the definition of terrorist acts, which can be tried in this country, so perhaps a good compromise would be to lock him up, try him, imprison him for a few years and then let the government decide whether to deport him.
  
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  February 12, 2017 11:12am
  - SGA
    
    It’s a little more tricky than that, I think. For the moment, let’s take this guy’s story at face value. If a concentration camp guard fled Germany to the UK (say) early in the war with tales of the vile things he’d been ordered to do, how would he have been viewed?
    
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    February 12, 2017 12:47pm
Zed

http://www.voanews.com/a/mass-prayer-jakarta-before-elections/3719183.html

Interesting to see that when Muslims demand a Muslim governor the media don’t lose their marbles yet the same media didn’t hold back with the ‘islamophelia’ slurs during the London mayoral elections.

BTW, Indonesa was hailed as a country where ‘moderate ‘ Islam is practiced in complete harmony with democracy and civil rights, yada yada yada by no other than the black messiah and the old witch
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February 12, 2017 9:23am
- Jack5
  
  Good point, Zed. The MSM’s acceptance by silence of what is going on in Jakarta is remarkable. The governor is to be framed and persecuted for alleged blasphemy because he is a Christian.
  
  Imagine if man of this position were being threatened with prison and ruin because he was a Muslim leader in a Christian country and had said something controversial about Jesus Christ.
  
  Our MSM would be enraged beyond indignation.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:17am
  - stephieboy
    
    Jack5 , MSM silence ? ABC News covers the protest here ,
    
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-11/mass-deployment-of-police-and-military-ahead-of-jakarta-vote/8261482
    
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    February 12, 2017 12:20pm
    - Jack5
      
      Stephie X, you and other members of the Stephie team are living testaments to the intellectual poverty of a madrasa education.
      
      ABC stands for Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
      
      Australia is the island more than a thousand miles west of New Zealand.
      
      What country do you think you are in? Was the compass broken on the old, rust-bucket ship that was trying to gatecrash you Stephiestanis into Australia?
      
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      February 12, 2017 12:46pm
      - stephieboy
        
        The ABC report puts a lie to your ridiculous claim,
        
        “The MSM’s acceptance by silence of what is going on in Jakarta is remarkable.”
        
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        February 12, 2017 3:37pm
  - Gabby
    
    Bingles has been all over it in the House, as befits a good Christian, Jacksie.
    
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    February 12, 2017 3:08pm
- Southern Raider
  
  By all accounts he is renowned as being one of the most honest and best governors they have ever had in that province and yet the media and left stand back because he’s not a Muslim being persecuted
  
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  February 12, 2017 11:05am
  - Gabby
    
    But good rightards like Bingles are loud in their condemnation.
    
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    February 12, 2017 6:57pm
Michael

Chuck
You could be a sugar daddy.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88389245/students-turning-to-sugar-daddies-to-scrape-through-university
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February 12, 2017 9:27am
- holysheet
  
  Finding each other online, couples meet for dates and many of the girls say even though large sums of money are changing hands, there was usually nothing sexual about the meetings.
  
  One University of Victoria student, 20, said her 47-year-old sugar daddy was “basically like a boyfriend”.
  
  Yeah right. What kind of boyfriend doesn’t want sex with his girlfriend?
  Every boy except Peter Davis that is.
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Those young things will take your money and run…
  
  Better prospects in becoming a Retirement Village Lothario
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:10am
  - holysheet
    
    Oh goody I can hardly wait.
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:08am
    - Viking2
      
      Lots for us to look forward to HS
      
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      February 12, 2017 12:47pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s another proposition… and you can make money from it and enjoy some exotic travel….
  become a “fake boyfriend”
  
  http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2016/05/china-fake-boyfriends-160522081331610.html
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:44am
Huevon

High profile defence attorney Daniel Horowitz weighs in with interesting comments about the US 9th Circuit of Hell/Court of Appeals…

http://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/02/want-to-take-back-our-sovereignty-start-by-breaking-up-the-ninth-circuit
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February 12, 2017 9:27am
Gabby

Was the suspect wart or blek?
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February 12, 2017 9:31am
- cmm
  
  Morning Gabby.
  
  Did you pay for those wonderful roads I drove on yesterday? If so thank you for being a wonderful tax paying asset to society.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:19am
  - Jack5
    
    Nice satire, CMM.
    
    ~~Scabby~~ Gabby is a racist leftist who strays in from the little blog, the Standard.
    
    We shouldn’t be too hard on him/her/~~something in between~~ other.
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:35am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jackie5 , do racist alt righties have a monoply control over KB ?
      
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      February 12, 2017 11:03am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @ stephieboy
        Are you suggesting that David Farrar is a racist alt-rightist?
        
        AFAIK, this is his blog and according to his Disclosure statement below he does not identify as a racist alt-rightist.
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:02pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W, No ! You really must stop trying puting words into my mouth.
        
        Did I say DPF was one ? His attitude for example to Trump sugggests far from it .
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:06pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        well perhaps you could expand/explain what you mean by suggesting that racist alt-righties have monopoly control over KB.
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:16pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy W, it was framed in the form of a question for Jack 5 to answer .
        
        Not you !
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:22pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        If you wanted to send a private question to Jack, fair enough; but this is a public forum and you have posted a potentially deadly suggestive question here for all to view.
        Is it your aim to smear this blog?
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:29pm
      - Jack5
        
        Good day, Stephie X, Stephie Y, Stephie Z.
        
        Are you trying to summonse me to appear before the sharia court of your Auckland suburb? I think you are a few thousand miles out of sharia jurisdiction.
        
        The answer to the question from the rostered-on Stephie at 11.03: Would a bunch of Islamic trolls like the Stephies be tolerated if the liberal Kiwiblog were controlled by the extreme Right? Of course not.
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:37pm
  - Gabby
    
    Not wart then cmmie. And no stairwell in that police station?
    
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    February 12, 2017 2:07pm
MT_Tinman

Dear Oz, can we borrow a few of those degree Cs you have way too many of?

Signed a cold South Islander.
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February 12, 2017 9:41am
- cmm
  
  Who are the arseholes that keep on selling our carbon credits?
  
  We need to keep them here so we don’t freeze in summer.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:20am
- Disaster Area
  
  It’s toasty in here at the moment. It’s been great all week – I might actually get some veges out of the garden if this keeps up.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:57am
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POLITICAL SATIRE!

Seen this Kiwibloggers?

Pullya Bennefitt is now famous
😉

https://www.google.co.nz/search?site=&source=hp&ei=MG6fWJ2yC4v_8QWK3abQDA&q=Anti-prison+march+heads+to+Mt+Eden+prison&oq=Anti-prison+march+heads+to+Mt+Eden+prison&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3..30i10k1.2360.28209.0.29049.50.49.1.0.0.0.348.10386.3j3j41j2.49.0….0…1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.47.9768.0..0j0j0i131k1j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1.YQHwJ8pV-os#imgrc=nLfkk-1H5QdxZM:

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February 12, 2017 9:43am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish stays
  I walk away
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:58am
- simpleton1
  
  “Jail many white collar criminals”
  Was that you with a wig, holding that sign?
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Anti-prison+march+heads+to+Mt+Eden+prison&safe=off&tbm=isch&imgil=nLfkk-1H5QdxZM%253A%253BqBKPtim7oPOv7M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.stuff.co.nz%25252Fauckland%25252Flocal-news%25252Fcentral-leader%25252F89307375%25252Fantiprison-march-heads-to-mt-eden-prison&source=iu&pf=m&fir=nLfkk-1H5QdxZM%253A%252CqBKPtim7oPOv7M%252C_&usg=__fflWS18mid8c5POxyBzXjKULCnU%3D&biw=1280&bih=633&ved=0ahUKEwi5hZrA-YjSAhUBzpQKHVjXDSwQyjcISA&ei=7XyfWPnaPIGc0wTYrrfgAg#imgrc=nLfkk-1H5QdxZM:
  
  I wonder what ‘white collar criminal’, taking money from bank accounts;- https://occupysavvy.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/penny-bright-fails-to-co-opt-occupy-auckland-again/ and not paying rates?
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:10am
- KevinH
  
  I doubt wether the Tian family of Te Atatu would get the bizarre humour Ms Bright is expressing.
  Cunxiu Tian , 69, was savagely beaten to death and violated in her own home by a piece of low life scum, Jaaden Stroobant, 19.
  Prisons are for criminals like this piece of crap and Mt Eden is full with them.
  No mention is made in Ms Bright’s post of the victims of these offenders.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:57am
  - GoVege
    
    What I’d like to know is how was a vicious murderer like this produced?
    Maybe we might find out how NOT to raise kids in this country to be rapists and killers at 19.
    
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    February 12, 2017 1:12pm
    - cha
      
      What I’d like to know is how was a vicious murderer like this produced?
      
      Indeed.
      
      Stroobant, a Dutch surname….
      
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      February 12, 2017 1:22pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It is an uncommon surname in New Zealand.
      
      If you google the surname along with drug conviction, you find some interesting information…. coincidence or not, I have no idea.
      
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      February 12, 2017 3:03pm
- fernglas
  
  What did the marchers think of you waving a sign asking for more people to be imprisoned, Penny?
  
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  February 12, 2017 11:16am
Michael

Good quote by Denzel Washington.
If you don’t read newspapers you’re uninformed, if you do read newspapers you’re misinformed.
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February 12, 2017 10:07am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Originally by Mark Twain…. so good!
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:10am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not Twain; author anon.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/12/10/fake_twain_quotes_and_other_hazards_of_twitter_116376-3.html
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:57am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Thanks Maggy,
      
      I googled to check and most sites referred to Twain, I looked a little deeper and couldnt find a decent source though.
      
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      February 12, 2017 11:33am
      - Brigitte
        
        “The problem with internet quotes is that you can’t always depend on their accuracy” – Abraham Lincoln, 1864
        
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        February 12, 2017 12:06pm
  - stephieboy
    
    But not of course alt right media like Beitbart , Fox and Alex Jones – Paul J Watson etc ?
    
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    February 12, 2017 11:06am
Awww C-mon

“publicwatchdog

POLITICAL SATIRE”

Those two headings are the most accurate comment you ever made.

Did you enjoy your breakfast of hypocrisy before posting today? Was it paid for with private donations raised by your ‘close personal’ friends on facebook??
Did you ever declare any of those mayoralty funds Penny? or did keep the money hidden away in a separate fund to pay for trips to the hot pools since you still cant run a fucking bath!!
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February 12, 2017 10:07am
Viking2

Four Square Hanmer Springs manager Mark Emsley said the quake went on for a few seconds and wasn’t too bad.

“I was standing in the aisles and the shelving just rippled and a few things fell off the top but not a lot. That was about it really.”

He said everything that fell was cleaned up in a couple of minutes.

“It’s been a good break since the last big shake and hopefully we don’t have any more.”

Carolyn Allison said the shaking was “definitely” felt in Culverden township.

“Heard the noise before it struck and then the movement which didn’t last very long.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/89318387/earthquake-shakes-central-new-zealand
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February 12, 2017 10:26am
Michael

Awww C

Mark Twain, you say?
Couldn’t find that one but I’ll take your word for it.
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February 12, 2017 10:27am
Manolo

Beware of the incompetent messiah:
http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/how-obama-is-scheming-to-sabotage-trumps-presidency/
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February 12, 2017 1:13pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, do explain to us us the diiference between Paul Sperry”s conspiracy theories and Alex Jones and his associate Paul J Watson ?
  
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  February 12, 2017 3:44pm
Manolo

NZ could send stephieboy to the US to lead it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/a-new-liberal-tea-party-is-forming-can-it-last-without-turning-on-democrats/2017/02/11/94421200-efdf-11e6-9973-c5efb7ccfb0d_story.html?utm_term=.460d1134ddea
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February 12, 2017 1:15pm
Manolo

Mamma Merkel acknowledges and tries to mend her ruinous policy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4213978/Merkel-offers-cash-handouts-migrants-leave.html

Angela Merkel will offer cash handouts worth millions of pounds for migrants to leave Germany in an effort to silence criticism of her ‘open-door’ border policy.

In a highly-embarrassing U-turn over the ill-fated plan, which saw 1.2million migrants flock to the country, Mrs Merkel has now vowed to send many of them home.
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February 12, 2017 1:19pm
Jack5

Dominio’s Pizza chain under the gun in Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2017/the-dominos-effect/
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February 12, 2017 2:53pm
virtualmark

If the Mexicans are going to pay for the wall then why does Trump care how much it costs?
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February 12, 2017 3:03pm
- Jack5
  
  He has to write the invoice.
  
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  February 12, 2017 3:09pm
Maggy Wassilieff

There are a number of benefits in being a teetotaller…
Here’s one of them:
I will never have to taste this:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-08/australia-first-lentil-beer-released-by-adelaide-hills-brewery/8249186
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February 12, 2017 3:30pm
Jack5

The Great Revision rolls on.

Yale has renamed a college that was orginally named after a US Vice-President from 1825 to 1832, and came from one of the southern states. He was in favour of slavery.

Guess they’ll have to rename Cincinatti, named after Lucius Quintius Cincinnatus, a great Roman soldier and statesman. He would have been a slave owner.

George Washington was a slave owner, too, so will Washington DC and Washington state have to be renamed?

Admiral Grace Hopper, for whom the Yale college will be renamed, was a good choice if there had to be a change, though. She was one of the few women computer pioneers, and was a leader in the development of COBOL.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38947134
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February 12, 2017 3:30pm
Jack5

Will the Donald out-Trump the Speaker of the House of Commons, Bercow, who is trying to stop him from speaking to Parliament?

The Daily Express says Trump plans to address a rally at a London Stadium, with the 10-pound-per head admission fee going to British war veterans.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/766217/Donald-Trump-visit-John-Bercow-Commons-rant-stadium-speech
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February 12, 2017 4:06pm
Manolo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/02/10/fake-news-killing-peoples-minds-says-apple-boss-tim-cook/

The best example: Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States!
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February 12, 2017 4:34pm
BeeSting

PRESIDENT LINCOLNS

LETTERS TO NO OTHER THAN

COMMO SCUM HIMSELF KARL MARK

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

https://www.versobooks.com/books/954-an-unfinished-revolution

http://advant.blogspot.com.au/2008/05/karl-marxs-letter-to-abraham-lincoln.html

KISSY KISSY

Let’s remove that there Southern Flag
and pretend it was all about

SLAVERY

Oh it is all about Slavery All Right

WHITE SLAVERY
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February 12, 2017 5:19pm
Manolo

The violent and intolerant Alt-Left:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/11/theres-an-alt-left-and-its-trying-to-make-america-ungovernable-video/
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February 12, 2017 7:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, you have a short memory . The intolerant alt right / Tea Party Republicans try to shutdown Obama’s government ,
  
  “No way to run a country”
  
  The Land of the Free is starting to look ungovernable. Enough is enough
  
  http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21587211-land-free-starting-look-ungovernable-enough-enough-no-way-run-country
  
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  February 12, 2017 9:47pm
Manolo

The ultimate apologist (surpasses our own stephieboy):
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/11/islamic-georgetown-prof-offers-tortured-defense-of-slavery-and-non-consensual-sex-under-islam-video/

A Georgetown University Islamic studies professor has come under fire for a talk he gave earlier this week in which he offered an Islam-based defense of slavery, concubinage and non-consensual sex.
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February 12, 2017 7:59pm
Inandout

Trump’s election causes huge hole in the Oroville dam in Northern California, and the hole is expected to grow bigger the longer Trump is President. The hole has caused a dilemma for those wanting California to secede from the Union, because to fix the hole they will need massive Federal aid. This is indeed a watershed moment for that state.
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February 12, 2017 9:20pm
Nostradamus

I propose that we play a Stephieboy drinking game. If Stephieboy says “Alt-right” then it’s time to empty your glass!

For those playing at home, if you’ve read through today’s general debate thread, then that’s 4 glasses of your preferred alcoholic beverage:

Maggy W , thank you for the information but also do note certain white South Aficans also bring certain alt right baggage with them .

Jackie5 , do racist alt righties have a monoply control over KB ?

But not of course alt right media like Beitbart , Fox and Alex Jones – Paul J Watson etc ?

Manolo, you have a short memory . The intolerant alt right / Tea Party Republicans try to shutdown Obama’s government ,

*Hic!*
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February 12, 2017 9:59pm
Inandout

I wonder if this unnamed Muslim import is still groping in Christchurch?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11186746
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February 12, 2017 10:06pm
- BeeSting
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
  THIS IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  Inandout , much like this convicted white child sex offender ?
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/85206796/Victim-sickened-as-paedophile-principal-appeals-conviction
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:24pm
  - BeeSting
    
    YOU ARE THE TOTAL F**KEN BULL SHIT ARTIST WHO DENIED AUSTRALIA HAD A JIHAD PROBLEM
    
    WEEKS BEFORE
    
    YOUR F**KEN JIHAD F**KEN SCUM TRIED
    TO BLOW UP A F**KEN CATHEDRAL
    ON CHRISTMAS F**KING DAY
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:40pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Inandout:
  
  These paragraphs caught my eye:
  
  Defence counsel Moana Cole told the court she didn’t think jail was appropriate because her client’s crimes were at the low end of the scale, he was a first-time offender and not offended since. His family had put in place a “safety plan” to prevent further offending, and to “protect [the offender] as much as the wider community”.
  
  What kind of “safety plan” would “protect [the offender]”?
  
  “Cultural ambiguities”, highlighted in a psychologist’s report before the courts, may have led to the man’s bizarre actions, Judge Farish believed.
  
  My goodness!
  
  She said the “misnomer of Port Hills Groper” had vilified him in relation to his offending.
  
  FFS – he “grabbed, groped and licked female joggers on a popular running route in Christchurch” – sounds like a groper to me.
  
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  February 12, 2017 10:28pm
  - BeeSting
    
    THAT TRANSLATES TO IT IS OK TO RAPE
    IF YOU ARE MOSLEM
    
    THAT TRANSLATES TO IT IS OK TO RAPE
    IF YOU ARE MOSLEM
    
    THAT TRANSLATES TO IT IS OK TO RAPE
    IF YOU ARE MOSLEM
    
    THAT TRANSLATES TO IT IS OK TO RAPE
    IF YOU ARE MOSLEM
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:30pm
  - BeeSting
    
    WE WILL HIDE YOU NAME SO
    YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT AND SO
    THE RELATIVES OF THE VICTIMS CAN NOT TRACK YOU DOWN AND DO WHAT THE LAW SHOULD HAVE DONE
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:31pm
  - Inandout
    
    ‘Cultural ambiguities’ read like he groped in the ME shit hole he came from, so he was confused he simply couldn’t grab the nearest female jogger in the Port Hills. Sounds like some of these ‘refugee’ males simply can’t control their basic animal urges, and are walking time bombs.
    
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    February 12, 2017 10:50pm
    - BeeSting
      
      NO THEY VIEW ALL NON MOSLEM WOMAN
      
      YOUR WIVES MOTHER SISTERS AND DAUGHTERS
      AS WHORES THAT THEY CAN RAPE
      AS THEY PLEASE
      
      THE MARXIST COMMUNIST SCUM WHO CONTROL OUR LEGAL SYSTEM LET THEM IN
      
      KNOWING FULL WELL THIS WILL HAPPEN
      
      THEY DO THIS IS EVERY PART OF THE WORLD THEY ARE LET IN
      
      DO YOU THINK NZ WILL BE ANY DIFFERENT
      THEY ARE LET IN BY COWARDS AND TRAITORS AND APPEASED BY THEIR
      
      FUTURE EUNUCH SLAVES
      
      WHO GET ON FORUMS LIKE THESE
      AND SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR RAPE
      OF WESTERN WOMAN AND CHILDREN
      
      NOW THE WORLD OVER
      
      THE PEOPLE WHO STAND UP FOR THEM
      ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH
      
      THIS RAPE OF NON MOSLEMS IS PART OF
      THEIR RELIGION
      
      HAVE THEY CONVENIENTLY NOT TOLD YOU THAT
      
      IT IS CALLED RAPE JIHAD
      
      GET THEN TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU
      
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      February 12, 2017 11:07pm
BeeSting

Many Iranians are rejecting the Primitive Head Hunting Cult that people refer to as I S L A M

The Iranian Kiwi Woman I work with did say
I S L A M destroyed our Culture

https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio/the-iranian-renaissance-and-aryan-imperium

Jason Reza Jordan

Say What you Like RED ICE interview
Some Great Speakers

Great Talk
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February 12, 2017 10:28pm
Manolo

Expect more tantrums from divas and snowflakes:
http://pagesix.com/2017/02/11/grammys-producer-says-political-acceptance-speeches-welcome/?_ga=1.186887976.1269764977.1486907558
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February 13, 2017 6:36am
Manolo

New self-appointed queen of the righteous:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/movies/meryl-streep-brownshirts-trump-golden-globes.html?_r=0
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February 13, 2017 6:39am
Manolo

The masses flee the socialist paradise of Venezuela:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_US_ASYLUM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-12-00-02-17

Where is the veteran communist Yoza when you need him?
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February 13, 2017 7:44am
Manolo

Another hare-brained initiative from UK Labour:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4217192/Labour-plans-liberal-immigration-policy-London.html
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