I’m a fan of MMP because I grew up in the incredibly disfunctional FPP system in the US. I think more proportionality is a good thing and the best part of the NZ system is it doesn’t give the minority power unlimited ability to stall and even block all legislation the way they get to in the US.

All good reasons why the wanky Greens should take a deep breath & do some research before shooting their traps off. You did, however, miss one of the major drawbacks. Ref: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-05/china-rare-earths-leave-toxic-trail-to-toyota-prius-vestas-wind-turbines.html

Clean & green my arse.

Sadly, central government has failed to join the party on this one, despite our embarrassing showcase at the Opening Ceremony of the RWC11 – trains completely halted, buses jammed to third world comparison and all access to the CBD cut off by congestion.

Astonishingly, of all options, the report failed to mention internal belt-tightening. I would have thought that this was the most sensible alternative.

Auckland’s population is expected to double by 2050. If we don’t improve public transport options now we will never host another international event again (and if we ever do it will be the source of all JOKES!).

Bradforh’s was a private members bill, not part of the government coalition. It was supported by nearly all MPs in the final vote, so that’s just about the whole dog minus it’s eyelashes.

The sooner the power generating SOEs and privatized the better; the first thing to go will be the loopy, idealist projects like wind power. Which has only resulted in higher power prices to make the projects viable.

I am sure you would be happy to provide the link to John Key’s endorsement of Len Brown’s campaign where he said “If Aucklanders choose to elect this man, I will give him money for his train set.” Or words to the equivalent thereof.

What I think you might find happened is that Len painted all sorts of bright colours in his PT vision, knowing that he needed someone else to pay for them, and not first checking to see if they would.

Maybe he blindly thought that Labour would be returned to the treasury benches in 2011 as the public realised the foolishness of their ways in 2008? That was, after all, the Labour election campaign in a nutshell.

Andrei (1,189) Says:
February 13th, 2012 at 12:03 pm

i bet more fundies will be along to ruin an interesting topic soon

Wasn’t going to bother – this is just another empty headed thing about empty headed people who have not a clue about what life is really about.

The sad thing is all those Lesbians who spend their lives climbing the corporate ladder will be food for the maggots soon enough.

What will they be worth then?

And the supreme ironic statement of the week goes to……….

Easy. Stop the rapidly growing population, limit immigration.
New Zealand’s population has almost doubled in 50 years.
It now stands at 4.5 million. How much is enough?
5 million, 10 million, 20 million……..?
People are fleeing other parts of the world (Europe and Asia) to New Zealand for the life style.
Compared to other palces, quiet, wide open spaces, unpolluted…….
Very soon we will have the same problems.
You Don’t Know What You’ve Got Til It’s Gone…

Did anyone check if your shit glows? all the way to the sewage ponds? Quite funny, imagine driving the motorway to Albany and the shit ponds glow! lol

I’m sure the stock standard answer from the electoral commission would be “nobody was interested in politics with the rugby world cup on.”

In fairness the PM did express his personal intention to vote for SM. And every left wing candidate and leader was more than happy to state their support for MMP.

A genuine, open education campaign may not have yielded what you want in any case. A genuine education campaign would have given the public all of the objective information to make up their own minds. That would, almost certainly I suggest, have led to a spread of votes across the alternative options.

Meanwhile it is no secret that the MMP campaign encouraged supporters to vote to keep MMP and select FPP as the alternative option as they were very sure that it would fail in a 1-on-1 run off against MMP. Clever.

That is the only scenario where I’d be willing to put up with tolls. I don’t like the idea of them at all and if they are used they must be entirely electronic so as to avoid creating brand new bottlenecks.

Amazing how many people who claim they really are serious defenders of our democracy seemed happy to go along with the charade last election. Almost as if they didn’t want to rock the boat. And I’m not talking about bloggers I’m talking about political leaders and journalists, mostly. They’re the influential ones and almost all of them on both sides, were almost totally and utterly silent.

Weren’t they.

girls are pink boys are blue
you got balls wot happened to you

Griifs is best so far.
But;

When are you going to grow up Little John.

We use to entertain unionists every now and then who would only turn up when the list was being discussed on the agenda for example. Stack voting at its prime, if you ask me.