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	<title>Kiwiblog &#187; Charles Chauvel</title>
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		<title>Labour MP paying 11 year olds $10/hr to wave his signs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just been relayed this story from a grandfather whose grand-daughter is visiting him. The grand-daughter goes to St Brigid&#8217;s School in Johnsonville and she told her grand dad about how some of the other 11 year olds at the school were earning money, specifically $10 an hour, to wave signs List for MP and candidate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just been relayed this story from a grandfather whose grand-daughter is visiting him.</p>
<p>The grand-daughter goes to St Brigid&#8217;s School in Johnsonville and she told her grand dad about how some of the other 11 year olds at the school were earning money, specifically $10 an hour, to wave signs List for MP and candidate Charles Chauvel.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Labour saying the minimum wage should be $15 and hour and there should be no youth wages?</p>
<p>Not a lot of local support it seems if you have to hire sign wavers.</p>
<p>I do hope Charles is including the wages of his hired help in his campaign budget disclosure. I also hope he is deducting and paying tax. As a lawyer I am sure he very aware of the law.</p>
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		<title>McLeod on Chauvel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rosemary McLeod in the Dominion Post writes on Charles Chauvel: MINE is a thankless trade. Surely all writing is. You beaver away with scarcely a word of encouragement &#8211; and then screens take the place of paper, and you become endangered as well as thankless. You don&#8217;t anticipate this. You couldn&#8217;t have imagined a time [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosemary McLeod in the Dominion Post <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/rosemary-mcleod/5818598/Chauvels-smart-thinking-a-touch-too-clever">writes on Charles Chauvel</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>MINE is a thankless trade. Surely all writing is. You beaver away with scarcely a word of encouragement &#8211; and then screens take the place of paper, and you become endangered as well as thankless.</em></p>
<p><em>You don&#8217;t anticipate this. You couldn&#8217;t have imagined a time when yesterday&#8217;s work wouldn&#8217;t be wrapping tomorrow&#8217;s takeaways. But that day is fast upon you, and it&#8217;s time to get a grip. What would Labour MP Charles Chauvel do in a situation like ours? That&#8217;s the question.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Which Rosemary goes on to answer.</p>

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		<title>So who is lying?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jordan Carter has blogged on the now well publicised accusations over what was said and denied at the Rainbow Wellington election forum. A number of Labour Party candidates and supporters have all accused ACT candidate Stephen Whittington of getting it wrong. Well to para-phrase Mandy Rice-Davies, they would say that, wouldn&#8217;t they. But Green MP [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan Carter has <a href="http://jtc.blogs.com/just_left/2011/10/labours-rainbow-policy-a-clarification-for-some-liars-out-there.html">blogged</a> on the now well publicised accusations over what was said and denied at the Rainbow Wellington election forum. A number of Labour Party candidates and supporters have all accused ACT candidate Stephen Whittington of getting it wrong.</p>
<p>Well to para-phrase Mandy Rice-Davies, they would say that, wouldn&#8217;t they. But Green MP <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5781365/Upset-over-Mallard-comment">Kevin Hague has backed Whittington&#8217;s version of events</a>. Now unless one subscribes to Labour&#8217;s mad theory of a vast right wing and non-labour left wing conspiracy, I think we can trust Kevin Hague as an honest witness.</p>
<p>With that in mind, Jordan may regret the title of his <a href="http://jtc.blogs.com/just_left/2011/10/labours-rainbow-policy-a-clarification-for-some-liars-out-there.html">blog post &#8211; a clarification for some liars out there</a>.</p>
<p>Does this mean he is calling Kevin Hague a liar?</p>
<p>I get a mention also, which I need to respond to.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This has been amplified today by that well known defender of the rights of queer people, David Farrar, on his <a href="../2011/10/labours_rainbow_policy.html" target="_self">blog KiwiBlog</a>, and by Whittington himself in a <a href="http://www.act.org.nz/posts/labour-mps-caught-lying-on-homophobia-in-their-midst" target="_self">media release</a>.  The result is this Stuff story &#8220;<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5781365/Labour-accused-of-homophobia-cover-up" target="_self">Labour accused of homophobia cover-up</a>&#8221; by <a href="http://twitter.com/avancenz" target="_self">Andrea Vance</a>.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now the reference to me as a &#8220;well known defender of the rights of queer people&#8221; is obviously meant to be sarcastic and imply I am insincere when it comes to this issue, and just using it to score political points.</p>
<p>I think my record stands for itself. I have blogged in supports of gay issues such as civil unions, gay marriage and gay adoption on scores and scores of occasions. I actively lobbied in favour of the Civil Union Bill, assisting Tim Barnett with it.  I <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2004/12/civil_unions_bill_party.html">blogged in 2004</a> how great the Civil Unions Bill party was to celebrate, and how great it was to be a very small part of helping something positive happen.</p>
<p>Unlike many in Labour I have been willing to criticise MPs from my own party on these issues. At the time of the Civil Unions Bill I blogged somewhat critically of some of the speeches from MPs against, including National MPs. The following week my public criticisms were raised in Caucus (so I am told, I don&#8217;t attend of course) by some of the MPs I had criticised, asking for something to be done to shut me up.</p>
<p>Also just last year I blogged quite harsh criticisms of a Cabinet Minister for comments which I thought were taunting a gay MP. It actually turned out (once I saw the video and wasn&#8217;t just going off the NZPA report) that I had misinterpreted the comments, and it was a fairly good natured exchange, so I actually was unfairly critical of the National Minister. But again, note I was publicly critical.</p>
<p>So even though Jordan was using the term sarcastically, I think I have been consistent in my advocacy on gay rights. Perhaps my crime is actually being heterosexual and a National supporter &#8211; after all how can a straight right winger be anything but insincere on gay issues?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Farrar&#8217;s allegations are nonsense.  He (and Whittington) are lying when they say that Grant and Charles denied Trevor&#8217;s &#8216;tinkerbell&#8217; stuff.  They did no such thing.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Well let me quote Kevin Hague:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Green MP Kevin Hague, who was also at the meeting, backed Mr Whittington&#8217;s version of events. &#8220;My sense was that Charles and Grant were denying that Mallard and Cosgrove had abused Chris Finlayson in a homophobic way.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Also Jordan and Grant&#8217;s version of events are not even backed by Chauvel himself. In the Herald he <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10758893">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mr Chauvel said he had never heard anybody refer to Mr Finlayson by that name &#8220;and if I did hear it, I would tell them that was unacceptable&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So Charles was denying anyone had ever said it. So now the list of liars is Stephen Whittington, myself, Kevin Hague and Charles himself.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>They would have been stupid to. The remarks were well covered at the time.  We told Trevor what we thought. Making slurs like that in Parliament is totally unacceptable.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>They were well covered at the time. Do you know why? Because I blogged about them. Off memory there was no publicity around this until I highlighted this. No one in Labour did anything about Trevor and Clayton until there was adverse publicity.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t think it was only the three times it has been recorded in Hansard. Hansard only records comments if made in a speech or if an interjection is responded to. I understand Trevor and Clayton has yelled out Tinkerbell to Finlayson on numerous occasions &#8211; but as Finlayson ignored them they do not get recorded.</p>
<p>So good on Jordan and others for telling Trevor (and hopefully Clayton) to stop. But did you say anything publicly like I have with National MPs?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>What they denied is that Mallard is homophobic. They are right.  Trevor has been a staunch defender of social liberal causes and was a key player in the fight to decriminalise homosexuality in the 1980s. His voting record on queer rights issues is perfect.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I tend to agree that Trevor is not homophobic. He is just someone willing to use homophobic comments to attack other MPs. It&#8217;s much the same with Winston. I don&#8217;t think Winston really hate Asians. I think he just knows it is effective to bash Asian immigration, so does it to be popular.  I note Jordan has not said whether or not he thinks Clayton is homophobic.</p>
<p>In terms of the argument that someone can not be homophobic because they have a perfect voting record on queer right issues. By that logic, Senator Larry Craig can&#8217;t be homosexual because he has a perfect voting record against queer rights. I think behaviour counts as much as one&#8217;s voting record.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>So my message to Whittington and to David Farrar is: stop lying on this point.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I trust Stephen&#8217;s integrity, just as I trust Kevin Hague &#8211; a gay Green MP who politically has nothing to gain by backing up the ACT candidate&#8217;s version of events. And then add onto that the fact that Chauvel has said he has never heard anyone refer to Finlayson by that name, and I am very comfortable with what I have blogged.</p>
<p>Jordan would do well to stop shooting the messengers. If only he spent as much time condemning the remarks publicly when they were made, than denying they were denied.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>For someone who is a social liberal, David sure does spend a lot of time stirring up nasty stuff.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I love this Orewellain view of the world. If I was a Labour activist who criticised a National MP for denying homophobic comments from other National MPs, I would be trumpeted as the good guy, and the National MP would be the nasty guy.</p>
<p>But no God forbid that I criticise a Labour MP/s because in the heat of a debate they made the wrong call and embarrassed by the mention of these homophobic comments by colleagues they tried to bluff it and deny said comments had been made.</p>
<p>I can only conclude that criticising a Labour MP for anything at all, is automatically nasty stuff.</p>
<p>On that note I&#8217;ll talk about why I did the series of posts on Charles Chauvel. It is not because he is gay as Charles has suggested, or because some mythical polls show him leading in Ohariu and Peter Dunne has put me up to it.  It is because I received information (from a number of sources, including people in his own party) that revealed he was doing shameless self-promotion to a degree that was deceptive.</p>
<p>In the past I have been complimentary of Charles, such as when he was <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/goffs_reshuffle.html">moved to the extended front bench</a>, noting:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Chauvel was a no brainer.  &#8230; Chauvel to environment is logical and what I predicted. He is one of the few MPs who understand the complexities of the ETS etc.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And before the reshuffle <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/05/a_labour_reshuffle.html">I said</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But a couple of others would also be contenders on merit for the front bench, or at least the front row of the cross-benches. Charles Chauvel and Grant Robertson would be the two strongest contenders. &#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I also <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/credit_reforms_responsible_lending_bill.html">blogged in favour</a> of his private members bill on credit reform going to select committee.</p>
<p>Charles is not the only MP who is a self-promoter. All MPs are (by necessity) to some degree. But I think where most MPs are under-graduates, Charles seemed to be well on his way to a PhD in it, so I called him out on some of his practices. No conspiracy, no homophobia, nothing to do with Ohariu. At the end of the day if you don&#8217;t write letters praising yourself and send them out to people, then there is no way I can be sent a copy of them to blog about it.</p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/10/chauvel-is-lying/">Whale Oil has blogged</a> that the video of the House shows Chauvel was present when Mallard used the term, and sitting just three seats along and one back from him.</p>
<p>UPDATE2: The Secretary of Rainbow Wellington has released his summary of the meeting based on his detailed notes. Tony Reed&#8217;s summary states:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Banks issue was taken up further and the Labour MPs reminded us of his homophobic actions in the House when Chris Carter came out as the first openly gay MP. Stephen agreed this was wrong, but in turn accused Labour MPs of making homophobic remarks about Chris Finlayson, a charge which was hotly denied.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting for an apology for being called a liar.</p>
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		<title>Labour&#8217;s Rainbow Policy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labour&#8217;s just released Rainbow policy states: Many GLBTI New Zealanders continue to be subject to insult, verbal and physical abuse, and to be made to feel inferior, most damagingly in schools. This comes from the party whose MPs (Mallard and Cosgrove) yell out &#8220;Tinkerbell&#8221; when a gay National Minister is speaking in the House. ACT [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour&#8217;s just released Rainbow policy <a href="http://www.ownourfuture.co.nz/rainbow">states</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em></em><em></em><em></em><em>Many GLBTI New Zealanders continue to be subject to insult, verbal and physical abuse, and to be made to feel inferior, most damagingly in schools.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This comes from the party whose MPs (Mallard and Cosgrove) yell out &#8220;Tinkerbell&#8221; when a gay National Minister is speaking in the House.</p>
<p>ACT Wellington Central candidate Stephen Whittington referred to this in the Rainbow Candidates meeting last night. And do you know what Grant Robertson and Charles Chauvel said? Did they apologise for their colleagues? Did they say they had asked them to stop? No, they lied and denied that any Labour MP had ever said that. They actually accused Whittington of making a personal attack on them.</p>
<p>In case anyone actually thinks Robertson and Chauvel told the truth, look at this <a href="http://inthehouse.co.nz/node/55">video here of Trevor Mallard</a> (start at 2.30). Also note this <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/4810616/Arresting-times">interview with Green MP Kevin Hague</a> who said:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Hague said he had never been the target of taunting over his sexual orientation since entering the halls of parliament in 2008.</em></p>
<p><em>The same, he said, couldn&#8217;t be said for other gay MPs, citing &#8220;prejudice&#8221; directed at Attorney-General and Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Chris Finlayson.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Trevor Mallard, and also Clayton Cosgrove, refer to Chris Finlayson as `tinkerbell&#8217;. And I f&#8212;ing hate it,&#8221; Hague said. &#8220;That sort of overt taunting as a `fairy&#8217;, it is nothing other than prejudice. I don&#8217;t like that culture of abuse.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now in case you think the video is doctored and that Kevin Hague is the liar, instead of Robertson and Chauvel, you can also look at Hansard <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/7/d/0/49HansD_20090728_00001191-Inquiries-Bill-First-Reading.htm">here</a> and <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/1/e/d/49HansD_20091015_00000029-Questions-for-Oral-Answer-Questions-to-Ministers.htm">here</a>.</p>
<p><em></em><em></em><em></em><em>Discrimination against GLBTI people worldwide continues. The worst manifestation of this is the criminalisation of consensual adult same-sex activity, and its punishment as a capital offence. </em></p>
<p>This comes from the party which has a List MP who said (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashraf_Choudhary">from Wikipedia</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In July 2005 Choudhary came to the public&#8217;s attention again when he refused to condemn outright the practice of <a title="Stoning" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning">stoning</a> people for homosexual and extramarital sexual behaviour. In TV3&#8242;s <a title="60 Minutes (New Zealand)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60_Minutes_%28New_Zealand%29">60 Minutes</a> show on July 4, 2005, Dr. Choudhary was asked: &#8220;Are you saying the <a title="Qur'an" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur%27an">Qur&#8217;an</a> is wrong to recommend that gays in certain circumstances be stoned to death?&#8221; He replied: &#8221; No, no. Certainly what the Qur&#8217;an says is correct.&#8221; He then qualified his statement, &#8220;In those societies, not here in New Zealand&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>When Whittington raised this at the Rainbow debate last night, again Labour again accused him of lying.</p>
<p>So how does Labour reconcile its rainbow policy with having an MP who said it is fine to stone homosexuals and adulters to death, so long as it is not here in New Zealand?</p>
<p>National is far from progressive on gay issues, but I can&#8217;t recall a National MP ever saying that it is fine to kill homosexuals, if it is done in other countries.</p>
<p>Then we look at <a href="http://www.ownourfuture.co.nz/media/files/Rainbow-Policy.pdf">their detailed policy</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Modernise the law relating to the care of children to ensure that the widest pool of suitable adults is lawfully available to provide care to children in need</em></p></blockquote>
<p>My God, why can&#8217;t they just say they will allow gay couples to adopt? Are they so scared of having the words gay and adoption in the same sentence? There are thousands of children being raised by gay parents and gay couples already. The law should focus on what is best for the child, and if that is a gay couple, then they should be allowed to adopt. What is so hard about saying that explicitly?</p>

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		<title>Charles in Charge Part III</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the third and final part of a three part series of a case study in self promotion. Part 1 is here and Part 2 is here. In Part 3 we look again at the video surveillance bill, and specifically Chauvel&#8217;s SOP. As I had previously blogged, his much vaunted SOP was a cut [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the third and final part of a three part series of a case study in self promotion.</p>
<p>Part 1 is <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/10/charles_in_charge.html">here</a> and Part 2 is <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/10/charles_in_charge_part_ii.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>In Part 3 we look again at the video surveillance bill, and specifically Chauvel&#8217;s SOP. As I had <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/09/a_cut_and_paste_gone_wrong.html">previously blogged</a>, his much vaunted SOP was a cut and paste from the wrong version of the Search &amp; Surveillance Bill.</p>
<p>Now <a href="http://inthehouse.co.nz/node/10942">in Parliament</a> Chauvel refers to the SOP &#8220;I have drafted&#8221; (at around 12 mins), and in fact told his colleagues that he had stayed up until 3 am working on it.</p>
<p>But when it turned out the SOP was based on the wrong version of the bill, Chauvel <a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Exchange-of-Email-with-Office-of-the-Clerk-Showing-that-SOP-criticism-from-Finlayson-Unjustified1.pdf">blogged correspondence</a> with the Office of the Clerk, blaming them for the errors in the bill. So it is Chauvel&#8217;s SOP when it is about the credit, and the Office of the Clerk&#8217;s bill when it is about the blame. And the only sign of working at 3 am is an e-mail at 10 pm asking for the bill to be redrafted.</p>
<p>What surprised me is that a former partner in a major law firm didn&#8217;t even pick up the drafting errors. It is not unusual to use the OOTC to draft amendments, but you expect MPs (especially those who are lawyers) to check any SOP in their name.</p>
<p>Now this incident is by itself no big issue. But when you combine it with the other two issues of authoring letters to the editor praising yourself, and laying down bottom lines *after* you have been told what the Govt has agreed to, it does all fit together into a pattern of an MP who is absolutely obsessed with getting the recognition he thinks he is due.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been happy to help with getting him the recognition he is due.</p>

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		<title>Chauvel uses the Chris Carter defence</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kate Chapman writes in the Dom Post: LABOUR MP Charles Chauvel has accused National affiliates of hacking his email and trying to paint him as a gay &#8220;rich prick&#8221; after a Right-wing blog claimed that he asked fellow lawyers to put their names to a self-congratulatory letter he penned. Don&#8217;t you love it how Chauvel [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate Chapman <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/5764231/Chauvel-accuses-National-allies-of-email-hacking">writes in the Dom Post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>LABOUR MP Charles Chauvel has accused National affiliates of hacking his email and trying to paint him as a gay &#8220;rich prick&#8221; after a Right-wing blog claimed that he asked fellow lawyers to put their names to a self-congratulatory letter he penned.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t you love it how Chauvel tries to turn this into an issue where he is the poor oppressed person. I have never ever made an issue of his sexuality. In fact as most people know I have always championed civil unions, gay marriage, gay adoption and in fact have often handed out demerits to commenters who bring an MPs sexuality into the debate.</p>
<p>But nevertheless Chauvel tries what is known as the Chris Carter defence &#8211; they are only criticising me because I am gay.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Yesterday, Mr Chauvel refused to say whether he wrote the letter, saying he did not comment on the content of &#8220;stolen correspondence&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not stolen. I made inquiries when it was forwarded onto me, and am satisfied that it was voluntarily passed on.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>He said he had no idea how Farrar got hold of the email but said it was either taken electronically or obtained through a Wellington consultancy firm that was working with the lawyers.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is Chauvel finding excuses to avoid admitting that he sits at his taxpayer funded desk authoring letters promoting himself, and attacking journalists who do not duly recognise his brilliance.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mr Chauvel believed Farrar had a copy of polls showing him ahead in the Ohariu electorate and the blog post was part of a smear campaign and dirty politics.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;This is what they have to resort to, try to paint me as a rich prick, or gay, or somehow devious, or all three and try to blacken my character and make me less attractive for election.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now this is a wonderful attempt here by Chauvel to muddy the waters by listing two things it is wrong to attack him over, and one where it is legitimate.</p>
<p>In my series of three posts I have not painted Chauvel as gay or a rich prick. But yes absolutely I have tried to paint him as devious &#8211; because he is!!! What else can you call his self-authored congratulatory letter to the editor?</p>
<p>The sad thing about Chauvel&#8217;s use of the Chris Carter defence, is it actually increases hostility against gay politicians. Rather than just admit he got caught being a self-promoter he tries to turn himself into the victim of some homophobic campaign.</p>

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		<title>Charles in Charge Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 23:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Friday I blogged on how Charles Chauvel sent one or more e-mails out to lawyers asking them to send in letters to the Dominion Post praising him, and insulting a press gallery reporter who didn&#8217;t praise him enough in an article. That was Part I of a three part series on the lengths Charles [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Friday I blogged on how Charles Chauvel sent one or more e-mails out to lawyers asking them to send in letters to the Dominion Post praising him, and insulting a press gallery reporter who didn&#8217;t praise him enough in an article.</p>
<p>That was Part I of a three part series on the lengths Charles will go to, to bolster his image. Part III will be tomorrow.</p>
<p>For today, I want to focus on the Police video surveillance bill. Now I&#8217;m one of those on the record as having said I thought Labour and Chauvel did well to insist on a select committee process and get some changes to the bill. But there are some very interesting timings with the bill.</p>
<p>The Video Camera Surveillance (Temporary Measures Bill) had its first reading on Tuesday 27 September, and was referred to select committee the same day. Submissions were due by end of Wednesday 28 September and it reported back on Monday 3 October 2011.</p>
<p>Now first a bit of a lesson on how select committees work. They generally first hear initial advice from officials in private, and then hear submissions from the public in public. After public hearings they meet and discuss the bill in private, go through any report from officials and signal potential amendments.</p>
<p>Inevitably the ranking Government members on the committee will brief one or more Ministers on the deliberations. They will outline the nature and tenor of the public submissions, the views of the Government members on the select committee and the views of the opposition members. They will discuss what changes the opposition wants, what changes they think are desirable and where a deal can be struck. The Government generally has the choice of either trying to pass it without co-operation from the Opposition, or compromising aspects to get wider agreement.</p>
<p>Now this sort of negotiation is always done in private. You need to give MPs room to explore compromises freely and frankly. This is fundamental to the success of our select committee system. The Standing Orders actually make leaking deliberations a contempt, SO401(p):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>divulging the proceedings or the report of a select committee or a subcommittee contrary to Standing Orders</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And the Speaker in Speakers Ruling 187/4 has noted:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The deliberations of the members of a committee and any draft report are not available for release and any unauthorised disclosure of them is a breach of privilege. This is not a mere technical rule. It is essential, if members are to work well together on a committee, that the integrity of the process be maintained by respecting each other’s confidences. Furthermore, the House is entitled to the first advice of the conclusions of one of its committees in a</em><em> report rather than individual members of the committee taking it upon themselves to communicate committee decisions to individual journalists.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>That was Speaker Kidd in 1997 talking about the importance of integrity in the process. Speaker Grey in 1993 in SR 187/3 noted:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Parliamentary privilege exists to protect the integrity of the parliamentary process. In that process members of select committees deliberate amongst themselves on the evidence that they have heard, and draw up a report to the</em><em> House that embodies their conclusions. This process is seriously undermined if drafts that are to be submitted to the committee for inclusion in its report can, with impunity, be released to all and sundry …</em></p>
<p><em>It is one thing for members to say in advance of a select committee meeting that they intend to argue for inclusion of a particular point of view in the committee’s report. That is quite acceptable. But it is another thing altogether</em><em> for members to draw up a document that purports to embody the views of a minority on a select committee—views that are clearly put forward as those members’ contribution to the drafting of the committee’s report—and that are</em><em> in fact subsequently laid before the committee.</em></p>
<p><em>Such a document is clearly one that should be conveyed to the committee first, so that it can consider it in its deliberations. To release it prior to its consideration could pre-empt deliberation and prejudice the proper</em><em> functioning of the select committee process. Anything that has a tendency to prejudice the select committee process can be regarded as a contempt of the House.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Essentially this says a member of a select committee can express a public view before deliberations begin, but not during deliberations.</p>
<p>Now I want people to focus on two press releases by Charles Chauvel. The <a href="http://labour.org.nz/news/labour-sets-out-position-on-video-search-and-surveillance-temporary-measures-bill">first was issued at 4 pm on Thu 29 September</a>, and set out four bottom lines for tthe bill to proceed:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Having heard the evidence, Labour now sets out its position on the Bill and the amendments that National will be required to agree if it is to have Labour support to pass the House next week:</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And five days later <a href="http://labour.org.nz/news/labour-welcomes-significant-changes-to-bill">Chauvel puts out a further release</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Charles Chauvel said the Bill made the four major changes that Labour required in setting out its bottom lines last Thursday following the hearing of evidence in the select committee.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So the narrative from Charles is the brave Labour Party setting down their four bottom lines, holding fast to them, and forcing the Government to agree to them.</p>
<p>There are two issues here. The first is that the first press release from Chauvel was done after deliberations had started on the bill. It is a clear breach of privilege. The House has risen so it is not possible to have a complaint considered by this Parliament and anyway amazingly Chauvel is actually Chair of the Privileges Committee.</p>
<p>But undermining the integrity of the select committee process is only part of Chauvel&#8217;s efforts to promote himself. The actual truth is even more incredible.</p>
<p><strong>I understand the press release from Chauvel setting out Labour&#8217;s four bottom lines was done around 60 minutes after Chauvel had been briefed on what changes the Government had agreed to.</strong> He already knew the Government&#8217;s position when he wrote that press release.</p>
<p>So you may ask yourself what sort of MP would breach standing orders just so they can put out a press release laying down bottom lines on a confidential negotiation, when they already knew what had been agreed to? One obsessed with making himself look good is the answer. There is a pattern here.</p>
<p>Note <a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/09/30/bottom-lines-on-search-and-surveillance/">this blog post</a> where Chauvel complains:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>We saved the right to silence, and stopped the Government from being able to try people in absentia.  We got the usual level of credit – none –  from the media, and from left-wing commentators. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>If we get legislation that complies with the four points I just summarised, the Nats will have lost big time in a major attempt to interfere with our human rights.  And it won’t be because MPs from a couple of minor parties stood clear of the debate and held their noses.  It will be because Labour pushed the envelope as far as possible given the numbers in the House.  In most democracies, that would be regarded as a pretty significant achievement given the right:left imbalance in Parliament right now.  Here, expect us to get the usual level of credit.  Ah well.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now recall that when he writes about how National will have lost big time, and how it is unfair he doesn&#8217;t get enough credit for stopping them, he already knew what the Government had agreed to, and his four bottom lines were released after he had been told what had been agreed to.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the sort of thing you would expect from someone who, well, writes letters to the editor praising himself and asks others to send it in, in their name.</p>
<p>Part III tomorrow.</p>

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		<title>Charles in Charge</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my legion of spies has passed on a very interesting e-mail. It was sent to a lawyer asking them to send a letter to the editor of the Dominion Post. The headers are: Date: Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:44 AM Subject: Hoping you would be comfortable with something like this to the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my legion of spies has passed on a very interesting e-mail. It was sent to a lawyer asking them to send a letter to the editor of the Dominion Post. The headers are:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Date: Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:44 AM</em><br />
<em> Subject: Hoping you would be comfortable with something like this to the Dompost &#8211; if not, let&#8217;s discuss</em><br />
<em> To: xxxx@yyyy.com</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And the text of the letter that the sender wanted sent to the Dom Post was:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Sir</em></p>
<p><em>We are lawyers/I am a lawyer practising in Auckland who are/is not aligned to any political party.  We were/I was extremely concerned about Simon Power&#8217;s assault on the right to silence &#8211; and other fundamental liberties &#8211; and so we involved ourselves/I involved myself in the debate and the lobbying effort to reverse those changes.</em></p>
<p><em>We were/ I was, frankly, amazed to read Andrea Vance&#8217;s opinion piece in your newspaper on Saturday.  Her account of what really happened here is completely off-beam.</em></p>
<p><em>Labour&#8217;s Justice Spokesperson, Charles Chauvel, authored a stout defence of the right to silence in a minority report when the Criminal Procedure (Reform and Modernisation) Bill came back to Parliament.</em></p>
<p><em>His work picked up on significant concerns raised during the submission process.  Rodney Hide and John Boscawen took a long, hard look at the Bill in light of these concerns, and were instrumental in ensuring that ACT re-examined its position on the legislation.</em></p>
<p><em> Chauvel, along with his caucus, and Hide and Boscawen, are the MPs who merit credit in this process.  We/I have found them willing to examine the arguments for and against reform, and to work patiently, often</em><em> behind the scenes, to reject the extremes in the argument and bring National around to a position that works going forward.</em></p>
<p><em>In contrast, Simon Power, Christopher Finlayson, Hilary Calvert, Peter Dunne and other government-aligned MPs have pretty much toed the party line, failing to do what we/I expect of our parliamentarians &#8211; examine</em><em> legislation dispassionately and in light of the evidence.</em></p>
<p><em>Parliament is likely to pass criminal procedure reform in the next fortnight.  It won&#8217;t be perfect law by any means.  But thanks to Chauvel, and to Hide and Boscawen, it will be much better than it otherwise would have been.</em><br />
<em></em></p>
<p><em> Maybe your newspaper should get a reporter who understands the law to report on it from now on.</em></p>
<p><em>Yours sincerely</em><br />
<em> etc</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So who sent the e-mail requesting this letter be sent in by a friendly lawyer. Well the headers also reveal that:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>From: <strong>Charles Chauvel</strong> &lt;<a href="charles.chauvel@gmail.com">charles.chauvel@gmail.com</a>&gt;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Charles must have been stewing all day about the story, as he sent the e-mail at 1.44 am. I&#8217;m not sure what is more amusing &#8211; the shameless self-promotion, or the attack on the reporter. I wonder if he had the guts to say it to their face, rather than get someone else to write in on his behalf, using his supplied words.</p>
<p>Residents of Ohariu should think carefully about the values they want in their MP.</p>

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		<title>A cut and paste gone wrong</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew Geddis proposed that instead of passing a law to suspend the Supreme Court ruling on Police video surveillance, that Parliament could just instead pass into law the provisions of the Search and Surveillance Bill as reported back by Select Committee. Labour adopted this idea as their policy and Charles Chauvel drafted a bill which [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Geddis proposed that instead of passing a law to suspend the Supreme Court ruling on Police video surveillance, that Parliament could just instead pass into law the provisions of the Search and Surveillance Bill as reported back by Select Committee.</p>
<p>Labour adopted this idea as their policy and Charles Chauvel drafted a bill which he said did this. He whined that the Government refused to grant leave for it to be introduced. But there was a very good reasons for this. Poor Charles cut and paste from the wrong version of the Search and Surveillance Bill. He used the bill as introduced, not as reported back by select committee. This is an incredibly stupid and basic error to make.</p>
<p>Chris Finlayson <a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/labour-sop-demonstrates-dangers-legislative-field-surgery">pointed out</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“Charles Chauvel&#8217;s draft SOP for the Video Camera Surveillance (Temporary Measures) Bill demonstrates the danger of taking parts of draft legislation out of the context in which they were drafted,” Attorney-General Christopher Finlayson says.</em></p>
<p><em>“Mr Chauvel has, apparently inadvertently, drafted his SOP using large sections of the Search and Surveillance Bill as introduced to Parliament, rather than as reported back from Select Committee last year,&#8221; Mr Finlayson said. &#8220;This has created some serious problems in what he proposes.”</em></p>
<p><em>A number of problems are evident in the SOP posted by Mr Chauvel on the Labour Party blogsite:</em></p>
<p><em>• Mr Chauvel&#8217;s clause 7(1) refers to a period not exceeding 72 hours. But this was in the Search and Surveillance Bill as introduced, not as reported back. The Select Committee altered it to 48 hours, to reduce the period of time a surveillance device is first used without obtaining a surveillance device warrant. This increases surveillance powers, something Mr Chauvel previous expressed concern about.</em></p>
<p><em>• Mr Chauvel&#8217;s clause 8(3)(a) uses the wording of the Search and Surveillance Bill as introduced, not as reported back. He would require a residual warrant be disclosed, even though the Select Committee ruled this out.</em></p>
<p><em>• Mr Chauvel&#8217;s clause 11 is completely deficient. He uses clause 50 of the Bill as originally drafted, leaving out important additions made by the Select Committee, particularly section 42AA dealing with restrictions on some trespass surveillance and use of interception devices.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>What a fail. But I love his <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10754825">response in the Herald</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mr Chauvel returned fire, saying the Government could have improved his SOP, rather than spend time scrutinising it and putting out a press release.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s a shame we have a minister who would prefer to take the approach of chipping at the opposition, rather than looking at how we can improve the law.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh yes how dare the Government point out the Opposition cut and pasted the wrong version of a bill, and that Labour were proposing a law change that would be worse than what the select committee had recommended.</p>
<p>Talking of the Bill, it is <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/C0E88C4D-8F2B-4519-A3C9-535087BED683/202274/DBHOH_BILL_11056_VideoCameraSurveillanceTemporaryM.pdf">online here</a>. If you wish to <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/MakeSub/5/0/e/49SCJE_SCF_00DBHOH_BILL11056_1-Video-Camera-Surveillance-Temporary.htm">make a submission</a>, you only have until midnight.</p>

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		<title>A third Labour breach</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Electoral Commission has announced: On 15 August 2011, the Electoral Commission referred the following matters to Police: Charles Chauvel MP, Ohariu Census, ACT Party newspaper advertisements in Sunday Star Times and NZ Herald Labour Party ‘Prices are Rising Faster than Wages’ flyer. It is the Electoral Commission’s view that the publication of each of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Electoral Commission has <a href="http://www.elections.org.nz/study/news/referral-of-alleged-breaches-of-the-electoral-act-1993.html">announced</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>On 15 August 2011, the Electoral Commission referred the following matters to Police:</em></p>
<ul>
<li><em>Charles Chauvel MP, Ohariu Census,</em></li>
<li><em>ACT Party newspaper advertisements in Sunday Star Times and NZ Herald</em></li>
<li><em>Labour Party ‘Prices are Rising Faster than Wages’ flyer.</em></li>
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<div><em>It is the Electoral Commission’s view that the publication of each of these items constitutes a breach of sections 204F and 204H of the Electoral Act 1993 because the items are election advertisements that do not contain a valid promoter statement and were not authorised in writing by the party secretary.</em></div>
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<div>The referral of Chauvel to the Police is new. Whale <a href="http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/index.php/2011/07/the-problem-with-labours-excuses/">blogged on his survey back in July</a>.</div>
<div>ACT should also know better, and should have authorised their newspaper ads. They are not even borderline calls.</div>
<div>No Right Turn <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2011/08/failure-of-political-competence.html">comments</a>:</div>
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<div><em>This isn&#8217;t rocket science. The requirement for a promoter statement has been a core part of our electoral law since <a href="http://legislation.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gpacts/reprint/text/1956/se/107se147A.html">1977</a>, and something every party should be complying with out of habit. Failing to do so is a basic failure of political competence. After all, if you can&#8217;t publish a fucking ad properly, how do you expect us to believe you can run the country? Sadly, I don&#8217;t think Labour will acknowledge that failure and commit to fixing it. Based on their past performance, we&#8217;ll be treated to more <a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/07/25/signs/">arrogant whining</a> instead.</em></div>
</blockquote>
<div>The Police should be able to decide on these breaches quickly. I have heard a whisper that the Police will delay any decisions on electoral law breaches until after the election, so they are not seem to be interfering with the election.</div>
<div>I hope this is not true, as it would be quite wrong to let political considerations interfere with the law.  If the Police have adopted this attitude, it will actually encourage more and more people to break the electoral laws, if they know there is no chance of charges being laid before the election.</div>

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		<title>Caption Contest</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/03/caption_contest-20.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Humour]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[caption contest]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[As always, funny not nasty. Enjoy. Tags: caption contest, Charles Chauvel]]></description>
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<p>As always, funny not nasty. Enjoy.</p>

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		<title>Scare-mongering</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/12/scare-mongering.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Uncategorized]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Climate Change]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Red Alert]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel at Red Alert blogged: I’m in Cancun, Mexico, at the 16th UN Climate Change Conference. Like last year at the 15th Conference in Copenhagen, I am representing Labour as its climate spokesperson; I paid my own way to get here; I am part of the delegation from the International Trade Union Confederation (thanks [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Chauvel at Red Alert <a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2010/11/30/post-1-from-cancun/">blogged</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I’m in Cancun, Mexico, at the 16th UN Climate Change Conference.  Like  last year at the 15th Conference in Copenhagen, I am representing Labour  as its climate spokesperson;  I paid my own way to get here; I am part  of the delegation from the International Trade Union Confederation  (thanks to Helen Kelly and Sharan Burrow).</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder what would be the reaction if a National MP turned up at an international forum as part of a business lobby group?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I’m here to support efforts to get an ambitious, binding, global deal  to limit the problems that we are all likely to face as a result of  human-induced climate change, and to support a just transition to the  different world we are all to shortly going to find ourselves living in.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>There will be no binding deal at Cancun. Cancun will make progress in a number of areas but no one expects a binding deal.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>So why am I here? Well, just because the media isn’t talking about it so  much doesn’t mean that the issue isn’t just as serious as it was last  year.  My aunts’ home in Tahiti, 6m from the high tide line, is no less  likely to be washed away by rising sea levels than it was last year.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is th part which I think is ridicolous scare-mongering &#8211; I expect it from ill informed people, but not from the official Labour Spokesperson on climate change.</p>
<p>The IPCC 4th report had a number of scenarios. In the most optimistic the mean sea level rise by 2100 would be 18 cm and the most pessimistic would be 59 cm.</p>
<p>So the IPCC have said the worst case scenario is that by 2100 the sea level may have risen 10% of the 6 metres above high tide.</p>
<p>If that rate kept up, Charles&#8217; auntie&#8217;s place will get swept away in the year 3000. Now regardless of sea level change, Tahiti is also sinking or subsiding at around 25 cm every 100 years. So in fact around 2700 or so it might get hairy.</p>
<p>Of course by then it will be 18 generations or so on from Charles and his aunt.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often said politicians who scare-monger like Charles are in fact very damaging to their own cause. Such ridicolous statements (which strongly implied that a six metre rise could happen in his aunt&#8217;s lifetime) just provide ammunition to sceptics.</p>
<p>[UPDATE: Several commenters have pointed out that a more likely meaning is that the house is 6 metres along the beach from the high tide mark. If that is the case, then it all depends on the angle of the beach. If the angle is more than 9 degrees, then it still isn't until 2100 that you get problems.</p>
<p>The projected rate of sea level rise is not dramatic (it is undesirable though). The increase per decade last century has been 1.8 cm/decade. From 1993 it has been 3 cm/decade and the IPCC projects the worst case scenario is 6 cm/decade up until 2100.]</p>

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		<title>Nice to see Labour not automatically opposed</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/11/nice_to_see_labour_not_automatically_opposed.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/11/nice_to_see_labour_not_automatically_opposed.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[jury trials]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Simon Power]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports on the sweeping changes to trials in the Criminal Procedure (Reform and Modernisation) Bill. The one that will probably attract the most debate is moving the threshold for jury trials from a maximum three months to a maximum three years. While the list of offences that would be affected is long, officials [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10687855">Herald reports</a> on the sweeping changes to trials in the Criminal Procedure (Reform and Modernisation) Bill.</p>
<p>The one that will probably attract the most debate is moving the threshold for jury trials from a maximum three months to a maximum three years.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>While the list of offences that would be affected is long, officials  have advised Mr Power that the most common cases would be theft of  between $5oppos00 and $1000; receiving between $500 and $1000; possession of a  class A drug; common assault; and assault on a female or child.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in what the stats are for these offences, in terms of how many people convicted of them even receive a jail sentence at all. A maximum is just that &#8211; and generally never given out.</p>
<p>The opposition Labour Party&#8217;s associate justice spokesman, Charles  Chauvel, said that while some change in the threshold for jury trials  made sense, Labour would reserve its position until it had heard select  committee submissions.</p>
<p>That is a very sensible position to take, and good on Labour for not being opposed just for the sake of it. I&#8217;m not 100% convinced myself moving the threshold to three years is the right point &#8211; maybe it should be two years &#8211; again would be good to see hard data on this.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Some of the charges no longer tried before a jury (with current maximum term):</strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>SIX MONTHS</strong><br />
<strong>*</strong> Ill treatment or wilful neglect of child<br />
<strong>*</strong> Possession or use of class A drug</em></p>
<p><em><strong>ONE YEAR</strong><br />
<strong>*</strong> Possession of unauthorised seed or fruit</em></p>
<p><em><strong>TWO YEARS</strong><br />
<strong>*</strong> Driving with excess breath alcohol (3rd offence onwards)<br />
<strong>*</strong> Driving while disqualified (3rd offence onwards)<br />
<strong>*</strong> Bigamy<br />
<strong>*</strong> Infanticide</em></p>
<p><em><strong>THREE YEARS</strong><br />
<strong>*</strong> Assault with intent<br />
<strong>*</strong> Making intimate visual recording<br />
<strong>*</strong> Aggravated careless use of vehicle causing injury or death<br />
<strong>*</strong> Indecency with animal</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh that is unfortunate. If these changes come through, I&#8217;ll never get to be a juror on a donkey sex case. I always thought if one has to be a juror, that would be more interesting that an assault or burglary case etc.</p>
<p>On the other hand these donkey sex cases tend to always be in Nelson or Christchurch, so I guess I would not have got one anyway. And add to that, that in 25 years of availability I have never once been summoned for jury service.</p>

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		<title>Electoral Law discussion</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/09/electoral_law_discussion.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Caroline Morris]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Electoral Act]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Philip Joseph]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Simon Power]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The four speakers are Simon Power, Charles Chauvel, Caroline Morris and Philip Joseph. I missed some of the written constitution session as I had to go out and buy a new power cord for my laptop. Power is speaking first. Basically just going over work to date &#8211; MMP referendum, new Electoral Commission, EFA repeal. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The four speakers are Simon Power, Charles Chauvel, Caroline Morris and Philip Joseph. I missed some of the written constitution session as I had to go out and buy a new power cord for my laptop.</p>
<p>Power is speaking first. Basically just going over work to date &#8211; MMP referendum, new Electoral Commission, EFA repeal. Highlighting that the crucial thing with its replacement has been a transparent inclusive process.</p>
<p>Power has effectively said that any further changes to the finance law will require identification of some clear harm to be fixed, that is agreed across the political spectrum. This means that not everyone will be happy, but that there will be nothing that any group finds offensive.</p>
<p>Next up was Chauvel. Mainly focusing on why MMP is good.</p>
<p>Joseph argued that the Maori seats should not be entrenched and in favour of a longer and fixed parliamentary term. I agree with him on all points. He only favors a fixed term if it is longer.</p>
<p>However Joseph is pessimistic on the chances of reform. </p>
<p>Finally Morris is up. Focusing on conduct of MPs. Says discipline of MPs should not be left to party leaders.</p>

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		<title>Jones and Carter to be demoted</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/jones_and_carter_to_be_demoted.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Chris Carter]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Grant Robertson]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Phil Goff]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Shane Jones]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports: Shamed Labour MPs Shane Jones and Chris Carter are expected to be demoted ahead of Tuesday&#8217;s caucus for their credit card spending while they were in government. I think that is an astute decision by Phil Goff. That will mean freeing up their two major portfolios as well as their rankings &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10651375">Herald reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Shamed Labour MPs Shane Jones and Chris Carter are expected to be  demoted ahead of Tuesday&#8217;s caucus for their credit card spending while  they were in government.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I think that is an astute decision by Phil Goff.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>That will mean freeing up their two major portfolios as well as their  rankings &#8211; possibly to the new crop of MPs.</em></p>
<p><em>Mr Carter is foreign affairs spokesman and is ranked No 7, and Mr Jones  is environment spokesman and ranked No 11.</em></p>
<p><em>Leader Phil Goff returns tomorrow from China. He is thought to want some  issues sorted before the caucus on Tuesday. A fuller reshuffle is  likely later.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Who to promote has two aspects to it. Who do you move to the front bench, and who do you give their portfolios to.</p>
<p>The two Labour MPs most deserving of front bench status in my view are Charles Chauvel and Grant Robertson. They will both clearly be senior Ministers in a future Labour Government.</p>
<p>As it happens, they both also have the experience to take up the portfolios up for grabs. Grant is a former MFAT staffer and would be an easy fit to Foreign Affairs. Charles has been very involved in climate change issues, so Environment also an easy fit.</p>
<p>However neither of them are particularly close to Goff, being more from the left of the party and very close to Clark.</p>

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		<title>Charles not in charge</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/05/charles_not_in_charge.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Natasha Fuller]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Paula Bennett]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports: Social Development Minister Paula Bennett has attacked the integrity of a solo mother who is asking for $15,000 to settle a privacy complaint against the minister, after previously denying she wanted any money. &#8230; &#8220;I ruled it out right at the beginning, there wouldn&#8217;t be any cash settlement and I was incredibly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10647715">Herald reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Social Development Minister Paula Bennett has attacked the integrity of a  solo mother who is asking for $15,000 to settle a privacy complaint  against the minister, after previously denying she wanted any money. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;I ruled it out right at the beginning, there wouldn&#8217;t be any cash  settlement and I was incredibly surprised, particularly after her  advocate [Labour MP] Charles Chauvel saying that she wasn&#8217;t looking for a  cash settlement, to then get a letter from the Privacy Commissioner a  matter of days later saying categorically that she was.&#8221;&#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>Mr Chauvel said he helped Ms Fuller draft the complaint and the letter  sent a few weeks ago, but had since recommended another lawyer.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Charles seems to be backing away from Ms Fuller at fairly high speed.</p>

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		<title>Thoughts on the Chauvel story</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/03/thoughts_on_the_chauvel_story.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[The story would not have made both TV channels if the MP didn&#8217;t respond by accusing two of his own (wannabee) constituents of being bad parents. A response to the blog post of &#8220;I don&#8217;t recall it quite like that but I regret if any offence was taken&#8221; would have killed the matter. A Helen [...]]]></description>
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<li>The story would not have made both TV channels if the MP didn&#8217;t respond by accusing two of his own (wannabee) constituents of being bad parents. A response to the blog post of <em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t recall it quite like that but I regret if any offence was taken&#8221;</em> would have killed the matter. A Helen Clark apology where you say you regret any offence is often the best way to kill a story.</li>
<li>It is hard to take the moral high ground about MPs should not have such relatively trivial stories blogged about them, when Labour MPs on their own parliamentary blog are running a story about a National MP text messaging during some road opening.</li>
<li>It is a fact of life that as an MP you should be polite in all your encounters with the public &#8211; the example I always give to candidates is that being an MP means you can no longer give someone the fingers if they steal a carpark from you or cut in front of you in traffic.</li>
<li>With a story like this, it is not about &#8220;winning&#8221; the story, but not having it as a story at all. Even if 60% of people back you, and 40% do not, none of the 60% who back you are going to then vote for you because of it, while it is quite possible a fair segment of the 40% minority may be put off supporting you.</li>
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		<title>Winning over the voters one at a time</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/03/winning_over_the_voters_one_at_a_time.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ohariu]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[BoomTownPrat blogs: I had a great weekend in Auckland. The most wonderful Pixies on Friday with exceptional friends and then a couple of days with family et al. Now I have a beautiful and very patient wife and three children, the children are 4, 3 and 2! Travelling is not easy, but I am of [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><em>I had a great weekend in Auckland. The most wonderful Pixies on Friday  with exceptional friends and then a couple of days with family et al.</p>
<p>Now  I have a beautiful  and very patient wife and three children, the  children are 4, 3 and 2! Travelling is not easy, but I am of the firm  belief that practice makes perfect. We travel often and prefer to fly as  it is quick. With my work I also fly frequently, as does my wife. We  therefore use Koru and Gold Elite to our advantage and when we fly we  are seated up the front of the plane. That&#8217;s the way it works. I have  been loyal  to Air NZ and as a result,a 1 or 2 row seat, on a domestic  flight is a benefit. With my family my flights are paid with post tax  income.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I am also a row 1 or 2 person.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Tonight the 1900 flight to Wellington (Home) was busy. I sat down in row  2 EF with my daughter  and my wife, daughter (1D), and son (1F) sat in  front of us. Behind me in 3F (Chauvel) and friend in 3 E.  Pause to get  the picture. So most of my family are in front and Mr Chauvel is to my  right and behind in Row 3. I can hear most of what he says though the  middle seat gap as can my 3 year old in 2 F</p>
<p>The flight takes off,  my kids make a bit of noise. The usual kid stuff, no one blinks(   except a muffled rumbling behind &#8230;..seat 3F) My kids can perform, you  may have heard them! But tonight they were fine. The odd squawk a few  yells and disagreements but nothing that your average person on a short  domestic flight could dismiss undercover of an insipid tea, a packet of  crisps and a magazine.</p>
<p>Not 3F  (MR  CHARLES CHAUVEL LABOUR LIST MP). 20 minutes into the flight I  hear the first, hissed,,,,,&#8221;Will you just shut up!&#8221; This I think was  directed at my 2 year old in row 1. I hear it well given my position. I  think he doesn&#8217;t realise that that object of his ire has a father  directly in front.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve once or twice asked a child to be quiet, and always ask politely. Yelling shut up at someone else&#8217;s kids is unwise for anyone &#8211; let alone an MP.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>40 minutes a more vocal&#8230;..&#8221;Will you just shut up!&#8221;</p>
<p>At this  point I got angry and sarcastically told my kids to be quiet as there  were very important men behind us who needed their peace.</p>
<p>We  start to land when my 2 year old gets some ear pain and cries. A bit  like a baby, not to intense. At this point 3F lets out his true feelings  and prejudices as he turns to his friend in 3E and says&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221; I DONT KNOW WHY THEY LET THEM UP THERE&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>God forbid parents with kids are now allowed at the front of the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">bus</span> plane.</p>
<p>Anyway, here is the irony:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Some Points to Mr Chauvel in 3 F.</em></p>
<p><em>The &#8220;them&#8221; you refer to, is me,  the voter.</p>
<p>I vote in Ohariu.</p>
<p>I paid for my seat&#8230;.did  you?</p>
<p>Those children you despise, will probably pay for your  superannuation.</p>
<p>And Lastly Mr Chauvel in 3 F, I pay your  salary, I would prefer it if you and your friend did not verbally abuse  my 2 year old in front of my 3 year old.</p>
<p>I have no reason to  construct this. This is what happened. This is how a Labour front  bencher acted in public, when his party is on 30% in the polls, when the  accusations of  &#8220;out of touch&#8221; are still ripe and the electorate is  still trying to digest the &#8220;many but the few&#8221; mantra.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect the numbers of voters in Ohariu that Charles has alienated is far more than the father and mother. Imagine how many of their friends and neighbours will be told the story over the next two years.</p>

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		<title>Labour selections</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ann Pala]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[carmel sepuloni]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hamish McCracken]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Labour]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ohariu]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Peter Dunne]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Phil Twyford]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labour has announced four selections, reports the Herald: Labour has already chosen its 2011 election candidates for Auckland Central, West Coast-Tasman, Ohariu and Maungakiekie. First-term list MP Jacinda Ardhern will contest Auckland Central and Carol Beaumont, also a list MP, will contest Maungakiekie. Both are held by National. List MP Damien O&#8217;Connor will try to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour has announced four selections, reports <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10623424">the Herald</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Labour has already chosen its 2011 election candidates for Auckland Central, West Coast-Tasman, Ohariu and Maungakiekie.</em></p>
<p><em>First-term list MP Jacinda Ardhern will contest Auckland Central and Carol Beaumont, also a list MP, will contest Maungakiekie. Both are held by National.</em></p>
<p><em>List MP Damien O&#8217;Connor will try to take back West Coast-Tasman, the seat he lost to National in the last election.</em></p>
<p><em>Senior MP Charles Chauvel, another list MP, will contest Ohariu, which is held by United Future leader Peter Dunne.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder why Labour did not open nominations for NZ&#8217;s most marginal seat of New Plymouth? Is it because Andrew Little plans to parachute in there later, as that is his home town?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There were four nominations for Waitakere, the seat held by Social Development Minister Paula Bennett, and a selection meeting will be held on March 20. The nominations were Ann Pala, Carmel Sepuloni, Hamish McCracken and Phil Twyford.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It will be pretty devastating to Twyford&#8217;s career if he fails to win the nomination, after having been scared out of both Mt Albert and Auckland Central.</p>
<p>He is a more polished politician than Sepuloni, but Labourites may not be keen to put up a &#8220;white middle aged male&#8221; against the young at heart fiesty Paula Bennett.</p>
<p>McCracken is a perennial candidate &#8211; his list ratings have been in 1999 he was no 60, in 2002 no 52, in 2005 no 49 and in 2005 no 50. I can&#8217;t see him beating one, let alone two, MPs to the nominaton.</p>
<p>Ann Pala is a Fijian immigrant who was President of the Waitakere Ethnic Board, a director of Winmac Computer Solutions, member of the Islamic Women&#8217;s Council. To her great credit she has <a href="http://grassroots.labour.org.nz/forum/topics/has-our-labour-party-the">criticised her party&#8217;s association with Winston Peters.</a></p>
<p>Less agreeably, <a href="http://www.royalcommission.govt.nz/RCCMS.nsf/0/CC2573E80010C73BCC25743A000DEC30/$file/Royal%20Commission%20on%20Auckland%20Governance.pdf">Pala called for</a> an &#8220;ethnic ward&#8221; for the Auckland Council, which would elect two or three Councillors. Pala seems to be the only actual West Auckland standing for the Waitakere nomination.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3279969/Dunnes-seat-ripe-for-the-picking">Dominion Post reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>United Future leader Peter Dunne faces a tough battle for his Ohariu seat after Labour kicked off its campaign and National vowed it would not stand aside to give him a free ride.</em></p>
<p><em>List MP Charles Chauvel will begin door knocking and leaflet drops within weeks after he was the only nomination as Labour&#8217;s candidate.</em></p>
<p><em>The seat is the eighth most marginal in the country. It was held by Mr Dunne by just 1006 votes at the last election – well down on his 7702 majority in 2005 and the 12,000-plus margin he racked up in 2002. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>Mr Dunne won 12,303 votes in 2008, compared to 11,297 for Mr Chauvel and 10,009 for Ms Shanks.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I expect National will vigorously contest the seat. The reality is that if both National and Dunne stand, then it is possible Chauvel could win the seat due to vote splitting. However if Peter retires from Parliament, then it would be a safe seat for National. Take a look at recent election results.</p>
<p>In 2008 National&#8217;s party vote was 17,670 to 12,728 for Labour. In a clear two way contest National should win the seat by 3,000 to 5,000 votes (depending on if many Greens tactically vote).</p>
<p>The split voting statistics tell a story in Ohariu. This is where Dunne has picked up votes in the last three elections:</p>
<ul>
<li>2002 &#8211; Dunne got 47% of Labour voters and 57% of National voters</li>
<li>2005 &#8211; Dunne got 34% of Labour voters and 52% of National voters</li>
<li>2008 &#8211; Dunne got 16% of Labour voters and 44% of National voters</li>
</ul>
<p>Peter used to pick up strong support from Labour and National voters. However from 2002 to 2008, he support from Labour voters declined by two thirds. Ironically it was during this period he supported them with confidence and supply, so there is no gratitude in politics!</p>
<p>Now that Dunne can&#8217;t attract large number of Labour voters, the main impact is to split the electorate vote of centre-right voters between him and the National candidate. Hence why Chauvel would have a reasonable chance of winning, if Dunne stands in 2011.</p>
<p>But if Dunne retires, then Ohariu should become the only National held seat in Wellington.</p>

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		<title>The weird stance of Charles Chauvel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Global Research Alliance]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Jeanette Fitzsimons]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Kennedy Graham]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the Copenhagen summit looks like ending with no agreement, around the only substantial achievement (to date) was the launch of the Global Research Alliance on agriculture greenhouse gases. This is hugely important both for NZ and internationally. The importance for NZ is it could help find a way to reduce methane emissions from livestock, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Copenhagen summit looks like ending with no agreement, around the only substantial achievement (to date) was the <a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/45+million+global+research+alliance+0">launch of the Global Research Alliance </a>on agriculture greenhouse gases.</p>
<p>This is hugely important both for NZ and internationally.</p>
<p>The importance for NZ is it could help find a way to reduce methane emissions from livestock, which would save the country billions in reducing our greenhouse gas emissions.</p>
<p>The importance for the world is to avoid what happened with biofuels &#8211; that food producing land is converted into other uses, leading to global food shortages.</p>
<p>So it is one of those rare initiatives that almost everyone from business lobby groups to the most hardened Greenie supports. And kudos to Tim Groser and others for getting 20 countries to all pledge funding to it &#8211; from Australia to Vietnam to the US. Much better than NZ funding all the research,</p>
<p>Back in NZ, it won <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0912/S00430.htm">support from the Wgtn Chamber of Commerce</a> (no fan of an ETS):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“The reality is that rather than the current proliferation of poorly designed cap and trade systems, science and technology are the real keys to solving the greenhouse gas emissions challenge, and this initiative plays to New Zealand’s research strengths,” said Chamber CEO Charles Finny. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>“This is a good example of trans-national cooperation with a number of countries pooling their expertise to solve a global problem.  New Zealand going it alone would be less likely to produce results and it runs against the grain of what this global issue is all about.</em></p>
<p><em>“It is increasingly likely that this will be one of the few concrete initiatives to come from Copenhagen and so John Key and Tim Groser deserve full congratulations for the leadership they have shown in delivering this outcome,” Mr Finny concluded.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So business likes it. And what about the Greens. Well this <a href="http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/12/17/global-research-alliance-on-agricultural-gases/">is Kennedy Graham</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Minister Tim Groser advised that, on Day 1, some US$150 m. had been pledged, and it was hoped that this would leverage private funding as well.  But he stressed that it was not just a question of finance – the essence was coordination, of research already underway and new research yet to be funded.  France, for example, already has some 500 researchers in agriculture and climate change who would form part of the Alliance.  India’s contribution would be immense as well.  Once the political momentum was underway, it was important to turn it over to the scientists.</em></p>
<p><em>Denmark gave the most impressive example of the potential of the Alliance. Since 1990 it had increased agricultural production by 16% yet agricultural emissions had dropped by 23%.   This had been achieved through optimisation of the nutrient chain and improving water management. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>We should take a positive view of this initiative.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And Jeanette <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0912/S00310.htm">Fitzsimons said</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Green Party today welcomed the announcement that New Zealand will lead a Global Research Alliance for reducing climate change emissions from agriculture, adding that it is crucial to pursue science and ideas that enhance our clean green reputation.</em></p>
<p><em>“I am delighted that New Zealand is finally doing something serious about fighting climate change and reducing agricultural emissions,” said Green Party Climate Change and Agriculture spokesperson Jeanette Fitzsimons. &#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So New Zealand has achieved around the only positive announcement from Copenhagen, with an initiative that pleases both ETS sceptical businesses and the Greens. So who does that leave?</p>
<p>Labour&#8217;s Charles Chauvel. In a <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0912/S00309.htm">bizarre press release</a> (one which Clark would have called treasonous if she was still PM) he has attacked the Global Alliance claiming NZ should have gone it alone:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“The multinational nature of the Global Agriculture Fund will inevitably mean that New Zealand won&#8217;t own the results of any research paid for by it.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;So, as well as there being substantially less money for investment in the reduction of emissions from agriculture, New Zealand will be poorer because we lose the opportunity to sell or share emissions reduction technology in our singular area of expertise on our own terms.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Despite the self-generated fanfare and bright lights, National’s approach represents a failure. It totally lacks ambition and is a huge missed opportunity for New Zealand,” Charles Chauvel said.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes Chauvel thinks NZ could have solved the problem all by itself. He also misrepresents intellectual property laws (being pat of a multilateral alliance does not mean individual institutions abandon intellectual property rights over their inventions). It is a shockingly stupid stance.</p>
<p>In Opposition, there are times when mindless opposition just for the sake of a press release is a bad idea. As the Greens show, there are times you can say this is a good initiative &#8211; even if we don;t like the other things you are doing.</p>
<p>I wonder what Phil Goff, a respected former foreign and trade minister, thinks of his MPs claim NZ should not have helped set up the global research alliance, and gone it alone? I can&#8217;t imagine he possibly agrees.</p>

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