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		<title>Pagani v Dim on economic growth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josie Pagani (Labour candidate for Rangitikei) has an op ed in the Herald where she says: We were seen as looking backwards, not forwards. We didn&#8217;t sound aspirational, we sounded miserable. We were turning up on people&#8217;s doorsteps telling them their lives were gloomy. And anyone who has ever been poor knows the last thing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josie Pagani (Labour candidate for Rangitikei) has an op ed in the Herald where she says:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>We were seen as looking backwards, not forwards. We didn&#8217;t sound aspirational, we sounded miserable. We were turning up on people&#8217;s doorsteps telling them their lives were gloomy. And anyone who has ever been poor knows the last thing you want is someone telling you your life is crap.</em></p>
<p><em>The hardest week to door-knock was when we were telling people &#8211; who had just come home from a day&#8217;s work earning the minimum wage &#8211; that it was a great idea to extend their Working for Families tax credit to beneficiaries. &#8220;So what&#8217;s the point of working my guts out all week while someone sitting at home on the dole gets the same tax credit as me?&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. Their worst policy of 2011.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There&#8217;s a reason we&#8217;re called &#8220;Labour&#8221;: We have always represented people who work. If you work hard you should earn enough to pay the bills, save a bit and enjoy the holidays with your family. If you have a great idea to build a business and work really hard, a Labour government will back you to be world class. It&#8217;s not just about dividing the economic pie fairly, it&#8217;s about increasing the size of the pie so everyone can get their piece.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty sensible stuff. But Danyl at Dim Post <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/mmmmm-pie/">says</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Growing the pie. David Shearer used <a href="http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=david%20shearer%20growing%20the%20pie&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CCgQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stuff.co.nz%2Fdominion-post%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F6174382%2FShearer-Labour-will-be-different&amp;ei=BUgPT-i3IYeOiAff7fU_&amp;usg=AFQjCNEhJ6zy5XSPUPLVyMDkZuaMNSu-Iw&amp;cad=rja">the same cliche</a> in his first speech to Parliament. Here’s my question: why are Labour still using ACT Party rhetoric about the panacea of economic growth, when all our economic statistics, social indicators and lived experience over the past thirty years tell us that the benefits of ‘growing the pie’ now aggregate to a  small number of high-net worth individuals? The rest of us stay where we are, or go backwards. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>For a few years during the mid 2000s it felt like we were going forwards – but that was just a bubble fueled by overseas debt. During this time Helen Clark constantly resorted to the tired old Kennedy/Sorenson trope that ‘a rising tide lifts all boats’. But this just isn’t an accurate way to think about economic growth. It may, eventually lift general living standards over a long period of time, but it always involves an element of ‘creative destruction’.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Danyl joins the ranks of left wing bloggers giving David Shearer appalling advice.</p>
<p>We had a party in New Zealand that used to say what Danyl said. They said economic growth is not as good as people make it out to be. They said we should not grow the pie as this exploits limited resources. They were the Green Party and tended to get 5% to 6% of the vote.</p>
<p>Then in 2011 they dropped the socialist dogma, and started talking about green growth, and how a vote for the Greens is a vote to get richer (implying more growth). And they broke through 10% for the first time.</p>
<p>Danyl thinks arguing in favour of economic growth is National/ACT dogma. It also happens to be the dogma of basically every major centre-left party in the developed world, plus pretty much all of Asia except North Korea and maybe Burma.</p>
<p>So my advice to David Shearer is not to start campaigning against economic growth. Well not unless he wants to beat Phil Goff&#8217;s 85 year low in the vote for Labour.</p>

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		<title>Dim-Post on retrospective legislation</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/09/dim-post_on_retrospective_legislation.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Humour]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, another excellent piece of satire by Danyl: Prime Minister John Key has called for other political parties to throw their support behind another controversial change to the legal system. The National Party will introduce a new bill this week that will update section 171 of the the Crimes Act. As with the changes to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, another excellent <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/key-urges-urgency-for-second-retrospective-validation-bill/">piece of satire by Danyl</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Prime Minister John Key has called for other political parties to throw their support behind another controversial change to the legal system. The National Party will introduce a new bill this week that will update section 171 of the the Crimes Act. As with the changes to the laws around covert police video surveillance, the Prime Minister insists that the bill be passed under urgency and apply retrospectively.</strong></em></p>
<p><em>The bill updates the manslaughter section of the Crimes Act of 1961, in which the current definition of ‘culpable homicide not amounting to murder’ will be redefined to exempt senior public servants who accidentally asphyxiate sex-workers at departmental parties. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>The law will be retrospectively applied back to December 17th 2010, the date of last years Crown Law Office Christmas function. ‘The Solicitor-General has specified this date as the key target for maintaining the integrity and dignity of the New Zealand justice system,’ Key explained, adding, ‘Go the All Blacks!’ &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>The ACT Party has agreed to support the bill to the first stage of select committee, on the understanding that the exemption be further widened. Under the draft ACT bill it will be legal to accidentally run over a teenage baby-sitter fleeing in terror from a private property, so long as that property has a rateable value in excess of one million dollars. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>Labour leader Phil Goff has yet to form a position on the legislation, but explained that he also supported the All Blacks, a comment that has drawn intense criticism from political commentators and raised fresh doubts about Goff’s ability to lead Labour into the election.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I laughed seeing today a press release announcing the Greens were against the law change. I don&#8217;t think anyone ever thought they would be in favour of it, even if not under urgency!</p>

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		<title>A King/Mallard leadership?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl McL at Dim-Post quotes IrishBill from The Standard: I’ve heard rumours that there will be a Mallard/King deputy/leader ticket bid shortly after the election. If that’s true then god help the Labour party. Danyl comments: See, I have this optimistic view of the medium-term future, in which Labour is defeated in November, there’s a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danyl McL at Dim-Post quotes IrishBill from The Standard:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I’ve heard rumours that there will be a Mallard/King deputy/leader ticket bid shortly after the election. If that’s true then god help the Labour party.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Danyl comments:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>See, I have this optimistic view of the medium-term future, in which Labour is defeated in November, there’s a leadership coup and a new post-Clark leader, and the majority of their front bench announces their collective retirement to make way for the next generation of MPs, and that this rejuvenated party is voted into power in 2014.</em></p>
<p><em>But there’s an equally plausible alternative in which Labour spends the next ten to twelve years shuffling different combinations of Clark-era former Ministers around in various leadership teams (‘Mallard-King didn’t work? Let’s try Mallard-Street! No? Then how about Dyson-Cosgrove!’) while National sleep-walks through one election after another, campaigning on and then implementing a steadily more right-wing policy agenda.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It could only get better if they bring Benson-Pope back out of retirement!</p>

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		<title>Classic Dim Post</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/07/classic_dim_post.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl blogs: Senior government Minister and key National Party campaign strategist Steven Joyce will be spotted to the Labour Party for the election campaign, Prime Minister John Key announced today. The surprise announcement comes after weeks of dire polling for the Labour Party, compounded by a series of public relations fiascos. Joyce is regarded as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danyl <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/07/30/national-to-spot-labour-stephen-joyce-during-election-campaign/">blogs</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Senior government Minister and key National Party campaign strategist Steven Joyce will be spotted to the Labour Party for the election campaign, Prime Minister John Key announced today.</strong></em></p>
<p><em>The surprise announcement comes after weeks of dire polling for the Labour Party, compounded by a series of public relations fiascos. Joyce is regarded as Key’s closest advisor, and National’s strategic mastermind.</em></p>
<p><em>‘This will make the 2011 General Election a fair fight instead of a somewhat undemocratic cake-walk,’ Key said in his Beehive Press Conference. He added that came to the decision after speaking with Joyce, who ‘loves a challenge.’</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Heh.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Joyce will work closely with senior Labour MP Trevor Mallard, who is currently running Labour’s election campaign. Joyce has insisted that the two men will work together as equals.</em></p>
<p><em>‘Trevor’s role will be crucial to our success’ Joyce announced in a joint press conference with Labour leader Phil Goff. ‘In light of recent information security problems, Trevor will safeguard our campaign strategy documents in a tent on the Auckland Islands.’</em></p>
<p><em>The Auckland’s are an unpopulated sub-Antarctic island group with no phone or internet access. ‘Everything depends on this,’ Joyce insisted, as Mallard’s tiny orange dinghy sailed out from Invercargill into fearsome three meter swells.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Well they will be safer there, than backing them up to the webserver.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In the interests of party balance, Labour has traded Joyce for Dunedin South MP Clare Curran, and she’s believed to be behind the Prime Minister’s shock announcement that he will conduct the remainder of his campaign in virtual reality environment Second Life, and prefix every single word he speaks with the letter ‘i’.</em></p>
<p><em>The Prime Minister’s fairy-winger avatar commented on the new strategy when he addressed an online press conference of goblins, virtual journalists and the National Party Cosplay Association this afternoon.</em></p>
<p><em>‘iI imay ihave imade a ihuge imistake,’ Key said.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I love the phrase &#8220;the Prime Minister&#8217;s fairy-winger avatar&#8221; <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <em><br />
</em></p>

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		<title>Singapore</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 22:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl at Dim-Post has blogged on Singapore. His argument is: Singapore is the darling of free-market, right-wing parties. Which is strange, because Singapore is the world’s ultimate nanny-state: not just culturally in the sense that the government controls the media and all forms of entertainment, but in the sense that it’s essentially a massive socialist [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/like-singapore/">Danyl at Dim-Post has blogged</a> on Singapore. His argument is:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Singapore is the darling of free-market, right-wing parties. Which is strange, because Singapore is the world’s ultimate nanny-state: not just culturally in the sense that the government controls the media and all forms of entertainment, but in the sense that it’s essentially a massive socialist state in which the government micro-manages the whole economy.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Danyl gives four examples which I want to discuss and partially rebut. Danyl is correct that Singapore is no libertarian pure capitalist society. But neither do I think it is a massiviely socialist state.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The right likes Singapore because they enjoy a low corporate tax rate. It’s currently at 17%. Pretty low. In New Zealand it’s 28%. But in Singapore the government owns the Ports of Singapore, the busiest port in the world, which is the key income earner for the entire economy. Our economy could be ‘like Singapore’ if we nationalised Fonterra and all of our dairy farms, because this would provide a revenue stream comparable to that of Singapore’s port. Then we could have a really low corporate tax rate and finance the government through the revenue from its capital assets, like they do.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Danyl way over-states the importance of the port to the Government&#8217;s books. The port has a Net Profit After Tax of S$1.2b &#8211; around 2% of total Government revenue, and 0.5% of GDP.</p>
<p>Even Temasek Holdings overall has a mere $4.6b NPAT. Have a look at the NZ SOEs combined NPAT and they are not an order of magnitude different.</p>
<p>Danyl has a point that the Government has a diverse revenue base, beyond taxation. But he overlooks how massively low the tax rates are. he mentions the 17% corporate tax rate but neglected to mention that personal tax rates are even lower. If you earn S$100,000 your tax is only $5,650, so under 6%. Yes 6%!! I&#8217;d effing allow the Government to own a couple of ports if it meant my tax rate was 6%.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Singapore also has low income taxes. But Singapore ALSO has a compulsory savings scheme in which you pay 20% of your income into a private savings account, and your employers are compelled to pay 15%. This pays for your healthcare and retirement. It’s not a tax in the technical sense in that you don’t pay it to the government – but you can classify it as such for net income purposes, and if you do then taxation in Singapore is higher than it is for the majority of New Zealanders.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Danyl misses the point entirely here. The money you have to pay into a compulsory savings scheme remains your money!! This is not the Government taking money off you to spend on everyone else. This is forcing you to save to pay for your own health costs, retirements costs etc. This is absolutely what many on the right want. The difference in incentives is absolutely everything. Having 35% of my salary go into my private savings is not at all a disincentive to working. It is the opposite &#8211; the more I work and earn the more I get to have to cover my health and retirement costs.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Next right-wing canard: there’s no welfare in Singapore, therefore unemployment is very low. Welfare in Singapore is pretty basic. And unemployment IS low. There are a few reasons for this: the state pays employers a retention bonus not to lay people off. And if someone does lose their job they go into a mandatory job-placement and re-training scheme. And if overall unemployment increases then the government launches a new development and soaks up the jobless. There isn’t a lot of free-market magic operating in there – it’s all intensive micro-management by the state.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Again Danyl misses the point here. It is about culture. It is shameful to rely on others before your own family. THe retention bonus not to lay people off was a temporary thing, and the level of state invovlement is not that major. Danyl overlooks that in NZ we had 200,000+ people on welfare even when unemployment was the lowest in the world. I&#8217;d take the Singapore system over the NZ system anyday.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There’s a lot of other non-free market aspects to Singapore’s economy – like the fact that almost all business and residential property is owned by the state, either directly or via its sovereign wealth fund, or that you have to pay the state about $16,000 for a permit to buy a car, and then a daily congestion tax to use it.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Here Danyl is on stronger ground. The permit to buy a car is bizarre. The congestion tax though is just sensible user pays. But the overall point is that the Singapore Government is not a pure free market Government. Absolutely.</p>
<p>But let me tell you I&#8217;d take their economic &#8220;bad&#8221; with their economic &#8220;good&#8221; anyday. And if we did, we&#8217;d be a lot better off.</p>

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		<title>Hilarious</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 21:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl at Dim-Post has found a second letter from Don Brash to John Key: It is with a heavy heart that I withdraw my membership, not only of the National Party, as I explained in my previous letter, but also from the National Party Social Bowling Club of which I have been a proud member [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/brashs-secret-letter/">Danyl at Dim-Post has found</a> a second letter from Don Brash to John Key:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>It is with a heavy heart that I withdraw my membership, not only of the National Party, as I explained in my previous letter, but also from the National Party Social Bowling Club of which I have been a proud member for twenty-three years.</em></p>
<p><em>I do not take this decision lightly and I have made it after observing, with mounting alarm, your lack of commitment to the activity of bowling.</em></p>
<p><em>When I had the privilege to serve as President of the Social Bowling Club and you were my treasurer, I railed against the inefficiency of the sport as I saw it. Despite repeated attempts to destroy the little pins at the end of the lane with our heavy balls, there was never any reduction in the total amount of pins. We spent many hours knocking them down but the next time the Club met there they all were again, standing upright just as before, presumably placed there by some malign, unseen state agency.</em></p>
<p><em>I gave many speeches, John – which you endorsed – calling for the cessation of bowling using balls, arguing for the deployment of hand grenades and fragile crystal globes filled with acid. Have you forgotten those plans?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And he continues:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The things I discovered shocked me. I learned, and reported back to you, that the pins we knocked down during each game were the SAME PINS EVERY TIME. Concealed at the back of the lane was a large, complicated mechanical apparatus that picked them up and set them standing again! I was literally sick with terror and disgust! All our previous efforts had been for naught!</em></p>
<p><em>I appraised you of these facts, John, but your response to them staggers me. You have not disconnected this equipment, as I advised. You have not smashed the pins with heavy mallets, even though, as we now know to our terrible cost, their total number is small, no more than a few dozen at best, and they could easily be annihilated. Instead I have looked on with uncomprehending horror as, under your leadership, National MPs now bowl from the start of the lane instead of standing directly above the pins and hurling the balls at them as was practise during my presidency.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Superb satire.</p>

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		<title>Quote of the Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl at Dim-Post: Sometimes I just want to strap the entire spectrum of left-wing politicians into dentists chairs and patiently explain to them – using chisels and barbed wire – that most the state’s wealth comes from ordinary people working hard and then giving a huge chunk of their income to the government, so spending [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danyl at <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/an-infinite-amount-more-where-that-came-from/">Dim-Post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Sometimes I just want to strap the entire spectrum of left-wing politicians into dentists chairs and patiently explain to them – using chisels and barbed wire – that most the state’s wealth comes from ordinary people working hard and then giving a huge chunk of their income to the government, so spending it is a sacred trust not an endless opportunity to squander it all on gimmicks and whims and political stunts.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is in relation to the $500,000 to be wasted on a by-election.</p>

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		<title>Danyl gets it wrong</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Been meaning to comment on this post by Danyl at Dim Post for a while, as I would hate anyone to think Danyl is actually correct with his assertion than I regularly con and play journalists &#8211; something insulting to me as much as to them. First of all let&#8217;s take the article which prompted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been meaning to comment on this <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/played-by-the-penguin/">post by Danyl at Dim Post</a> for a while, as I would hate anyone to think Danyl is actually correct with his assertion than I regularly con and play journalists &#8211; something insulting to me as much as to them. First of all let&#8217;s take the article which prompted his post &#8211; a <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10716603">profile of Grant Robertson in the Herald</a> quoting me saying:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Kiwiblogger and right-wing commentator David Farrar believes Robertson will be at the forefront of a leadership challenge within the next two terms . . .</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now in Danyl&#8217;s world, my comments were part of a cunning plot by National to undermine Phil Goff, and not my honest belief. He should have checked the timing of when I made the comments, and what I actually said.</p>
<p>When Phil Goff did his reshuffle in early Feb I <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/02/labours_reshuffle-3.html">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Robertson move is the best part of the reshuffle. Tony Ryall will have a more challenging time with Grant against him. Health is traditionally a strong area for Labour, and the fact they have performed so dismally in this area has to change, for them to be competitive. It also marks the high regard Robertson is held in, to get it in just two years. He is a future Labour Prime Minister in my opinion.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The next day I <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/02/the_rise_of_robertson.html">blogged</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I’ve long said that I think Grant will become Labour Leader, and indeed probably even a Labour Prime Minister.</em></p>
<p><em>I don’t think he will be the next leader, but the one after that. He is young enough to be able to wait his time.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So my initial blogs were praising Goff for Robertson&#8217;s promotion, and explicitly saying that I do not think he will be the next leader but maybe the one after that.  Several times I have said that I do not think Grant would be a contender until after 2014 election.</p>
<p>It was shortly after that the Herald rang me as they were doing a profile on Grant, and wanted my comments on why I rate him. Now this was in early to mid February &#8211; weeks before the Darren Hughes affair occured and before there was any talk at all of a challenge to Goff.</p>
<p>So Danyl has it 100% wrong when he insinuates that my comments were designed to undermine Goff, and that I conned Derek into running them. Goff&#8217;s leadership was not an issue when I made my comments and further more I explicitly said that Grant would not be the next leader.</p>
<p>This is unless Danyl thinks I knew in advance that Darren Hughes would go home with an 18 year old who would flee naked from his home, and that Goff would take no action over it, hence creating leadership speculation.</p>
<p>The other thing Danyl doesn&#8217;t realise is that far from my praise of Grant being a cunning National Party plot, it generally results in a flurry of angry phone calls and e-mails from National Party people. I am a member of Wellington Central National Party, a former campaign chair for the seat, and a mate of the just selected candidate. Let me assure you that local Nats get very unhappy when I say good things about Grant. And so do a few Nats at 1 Molesworth Street.</p>
<p>Danyl&#8217;s fantasy of this all being some cunning plan of the 9th floor is hilarious, if he could tap my phone. I get some seriously pissed off people calling.</p>
<p>The only thing that makes up for the hostility my comments on Grant&#8217;s abilities generate for me from Nats, is the knowledge that they probably generate equally hostile comments to Grant from his Labour activists <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So having dealt with the specific, let&#8217;s turn to the more general:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Describing DPF as  ‘Kiwiblogger and right-wing commentator’ is an improvement on outlets like TV3 and NewsTalkZB that just describe him as ‘blogger and commentator’ but it does elide his most significant role in the political process namely that he’s THE NATIONAL PARTY POLLSTER. Quoting him in a story about an opposition MP is a little like citing ‘former TVNZ journalist Fran Mold’ or ‘astute political observer Kevin Taylor’. (There is a slight difference, in that they’re directly employed by their parties, while DPF is the director of a company that the National Party contracts.)</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I have disclosed on my blog my extensive background with National, and this is pretty well known. But that does not mean I am an uncritical supporter or obliged to say things only helpful to National. I compare it to sports. <strong>National is the team I support, and I want my team to win. But that doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t criticise the coach, captan and players when they stuff up. And it doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t praise other teams when they perform well</strong>.</p>
<p>As for the fact that National may have a relationship with Curia. Well off hand I would say that most of the organisations Curia has done work for, I have also criticised at some stage on my blog. Any relationship Curia has with National didn&#8217;t stop me doing the post the week before last criticising the Government on use of urgency. That post resulted in numerous critical news stories, and a NZ Herald editorial. I also did around five radio and one TV interview repeating my views.</p>
<p>Yes it is difficult criticising people or organisations you have relationships with. But it is hardly something new to me. In my roles with InternetNZ I had a good working relationship with David Cunliffe who was ICT Minister. And in the last few weeks I&#8217;ve actually had a number of meetings with Labour, Green and ACT MPs, where I&#8217;ve encouraged them to pressure the Government to make some changes to its telecommunications legislation. Again, it doesn&#8217;t always generate undying gratitude from within National.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>DPF is the most successful at getting journalists to accept him as an independent and trustworthy commentator, presumably because he’s so genial and likeable and, unassuming.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe journalists ask me for comment because I am genial or likeable (and many would dispute that). I assume it it because I give intelligent analysis, and am willing to praise the &#8220;other team&#8221; and criticise my own team.</p>
<p>Danyl seems to think my blog was invented by National as a cunning social media tool. In fact I&#8217;ve been debating politics online since 1996 &#8211; because I enjoy it. I did this through Usenet from 1996 to 2003 and then discovered blogs and after gettign addicted to reading them set up my own. This was <strong>not</strong> done at the request of National, or even with their support, permission or knowledge. I just did it. And in fact in its first year of operations, there was at least one caucus meeting where a number of National MPs complained about things I said on it and asked if the then leadership could stop me blogging.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>No one likes to think they’ve been played by the penguin, even though he repeatedly plays many political journalists for suckers on a regular basis.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Again I find this really insulting (apart from Danyl trying to emulate Trevor Mallard with use of an insulting nickname) - to both sides. He presumably think all the journalists except his wife are really stupid, and that I  not only know they are stupid but take advantage of their stupidity to con and play them. That is not how I regard journalists, and Danyl is attributing motives quite maliciously.</p>
<p>It is very very rarely that I will ring a journalist up to push a story &#8211; maybe once every six months if even that. And if journalists ring me up, I give them my opinion. Absolutely that is from someone with a pro-National world-view, but that is known.</p>
<p>At the risk of being immodest, I would suggest the reason some journalists do call me and ask for my views and analysis, is because I used to talk candidly to them in the days before blogging. I was never a press secretary but during my eight years in Parliament I had strong relationships with many in the gallery &#8211; and I often chatted off the record to them on my take of how things are going. I wouldn&#8217;t betray professional confidences, but I would happily admit over a beer that National had terribly fucked up that week. I was rather proud of the fact that when then TVNZ Political Editor Linda Clark retired from the gallery, that I was the only 9th floor staffer to attend her farewell (as she was under a fatwa from the then PM). That was not because I was genial or likeable, but because I would never ever bullshit her and would always talk to her (even if sometimes all I could say is I can&#8217;t comment).</p>
<p>This seems a very lengthy and some would say &#8220;thou protest too much&#8221; response to Danyl&#8217;s blog post. And it possibly is. But Danyl is now the most read and I would say powerful left wing blog, so I respond to stuff he says which I wouldn&#8217;t on other blogs. Also it is useful to get this out there, so it can be referred to in future.</p>

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		<title>CTU criticism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Edwards blogs: In the Campbell Live poll 90% of respondents thought Actors Equity was to blame for the Hobbit fiasco and 10% thought the film company was to blame. Even given the statistical unreliability of this sort of poll, that’s a resounding and deserved indictment of the appalling PR of Actors Equity, the CTU [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Edwards <a href="http://brianedwardsmedia.co.nz/2010/10/who-get-the-dough-when-you-take-part-in-a-tvnztv3-text-in-poll-i-find-out-and-it-aint-pretty/">blogs</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In the </em><em>Campbell Live</em> poll 90% of respondents thought Actors  Equity was to blame for the Hobbit fiasco and 10% thought the film  company was to blame. Even given the statistical unreliability of this  sort of poll, that’s a resounding and deserved indictment of the  appalling PR of Actors Equity, the CTU and in particular CTU president  Helen Kelly. I have seldom seen groups so out of touch with public  sentiment or so incapable of getting across the message they wanted to  convey.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/10/23/ctu-launches-charm-offensive-desecrates-grave-of-sir-edmund-hillary/">Danyl blogs at the Dim Post</a> about the next CTU media campaign:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>CTU launches charm offensive, desecrates grave of Sir Edmund Hillary</em></p>
<p><em>In the wake of sharp public criticism over its handling of contract negotiations around The Hobbit the Council of Trade Unions has launched a public relations campaign aimed at rehabilitating the organisation’s image. CTU President Helen Kelly has promised New Zealanders they will be ‘wowed’ by a series of industrial strikes planned to disrupt the rugby world cup next year and has violated the grave of revered mountain climber Sir Edmund Hillary during a live press conference.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Heh this is of course Danyl&#8217;s normal satire. However he hits a bit close to the bone. Numerous Auckland industrial agreements have been timed to expire just before the Rugby World Cup. watch this space!</p>
<blockquote><p><em>‘This shows the public that the union movement is about more than  being a voice for working people, conducting fair and equitable  negotiations between equal parties and destroying the capital owning  parasites like Hillary and Jackson, and also Hayley Westenra who has it  coming to her,’ Helen Kelly announced while digging, pausing to pose for  cameras and spit on the grave.</em></p>
<p><em>‘Like most Kiwis we have nothing but contempt for Hillary and his  achievements,’ Kelly said hitching up her skirt and squatting on Sir  Edmund’s skeleton while onlookers and supporters cheered and sang </em><em>We Shall not be Moved. ‘This sends a signal to the public that we share their values.’ &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>‘Although Hillary did support the labour movement for many decades  let us not forget that he also lived in Remuera,’ Kelly added,  spray-painting a picture of a penis on the tombstone. ‘Fairness!  Respect! Solidarity!’</em></p>
<p><em>Subsequent to the desecration Kelly and senior union delegates burned  a huge pile of five dollar notes, which bear Sir Edmund’s image.  According to a statement released by the union the bonfire was unrelated  to the Hillary protest and is customary practise at CTU events.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is again one of the ironies. Sir Peter Jackson could have made so much more money if he had moved to Hollywood. But it was is desire to create jobs for New Zealanders that has seen him remain here.</p>
<p>Also <a href="http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/2010/10/quote-of-day.html">Lee at MWT highlights</a> this comment made on the Dim Post:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;What kind of country do we live in if union bosses can’t meet at  Matterhorn to decide the future of 22,000 people’s jobs over a few $42  Mains and some cocktails, without being harangued by smelly jobless  proles?&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Actually I quite liked that Simon Whipp who featured in the video. I&#8217;m thinking he&#8217;d make a great candidate for Parliament &#8211; he should seek selection for a safe seat somewhere.</p>

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		<title>$1 a week more</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Engligh writes: Labour&#8217;s unfunded policy to remove GST from fresh fruit and vegetables would deliver only $1 a week for the average Kiwi &#8211; and much less for low income earners, Finance Minister Bill English says. The estimated $250 million cost of the new policy would have to be paid for by extra borrowing, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill <a href="http://www.billenglish.co.nz/archives/600-Labours-unfunded-GST-policy-worth-1-a-week.html">Engligh writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Labour&#8217;s unfunded policy to remove GST from fresh fruit and  vegetables would deliver only $1 a week for the average Kiwi &#8211; and much  less for low income earners, Finance Minister Bill English says.</em></p>
<p><em>The estimated $250 million cost of the new policy would have to be  paid for by extra borrowing, pushing up already fast-rising public debt. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>The $250 million annual cost of the move, divided among all New  Zealanders, is worth, on average, just over $1 a week &#8211; less for low  income earners and more for high income earners.</em></p>
<p><em> &#8220;This puts the Government&#8217;s tax switch, which will leave the average  income earner $15 a week better off, into perspective,&#8221; Mr English says.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>But here is the real ripper:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s also worth noting that fruit and vegetable prices have actually  fallen by 11 per cent since National took office, having jumped 54 per  cent under Labour.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The removal of GST will have a relatively minor impact on overall fruit and vegetable prices and affordability, compared to normal price movements.</p>
<p>This is a point <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/we-attack-under-cover-of-daylight-2/">Danyl also makes at the Dim Post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The real flaw with the policy is that its just a gimmick. I’ve written  before about how the price difference between fruit and veges at the  supermarket and the farmers market down the road is several hundred  percent.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I predict that if Labour ever got to implement their policy, it would have next to zero effect on the uptake of fruit and vegetables.</p>
<p>Bill continues:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Labour&#8217;s policy makes no sense and smacks of political desperation,&#8221;  Mr English says. &#8220;Phil Goff must explain to New Zealanders why he is  removing GST from imported, out-of-season raspberries and asparagus, but  not from New Zealand frozen peas, which are a nutritious part of many  Kiwi meals.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;People would be able to buy GST-free potatoes, take them home and  make deep-fried chips. But at the same time, healthy foods like Weetbix,  low-fat milk and wholegrain bread would be subject to GST.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Distinguishing between fresh and frozen vegetables is just the start of the stupidities that this policy would lead to.</p>

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		<title>Narking to employers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl blogs: Just a warning to everyone commenting on this blog: I’ve recently been made aware that someone posting on one of the discussion threads using their real name has had a complaint made to their employer. The offending comments in question were (very mildly) critical of the Labour Party. The substance of the complaint [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danyl <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/blogcoms-unbellyfeel-labpar/">blogs</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p><em>Just a warning to everyone commenting on  this blog: I’ve recently been made aware that someone posting on one of  the discussion threads using their real name has had a complaint made to  their employer. The offending comments in question were (very mildly)  critical of the Labour Party. The substance of the complaint is that  they were made during work hours.</em></p>
<p><em>Classy, huh? So I prefer it if people use their real names when they  comment on the blog – it makes for a more civilised and polite level of  discussion. But in future if you want to criticise the developed world’s  most worthless opposition party you might want to use a pseudonym, lest  one of its supporters or staffers (who also read and comment  extensively during work hours, going by the IP addresses) take umbrage  and elect to put you in your place by threatening your employment.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is not an isolated incident. A wee while ago someone complained to the State Services Commission about a centre-right blogger who works in a Govt ministry. Their boss had okayed them blogging (which pre-dated their job) so long as they avoided issues around that ministry, but they stopped blogging because no one really wants to risk the job. I have no doubt the intent of the complaint was to shut down the blogger.</p>
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		<title>Goff&#8217;s Carter problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports: Labour leader Phil Goff says Chris Carter is not his problem any more and the caucus is moving on. He disputes that the two months&#8217; leave Mr Carter wants to take mean a ongoing cloud will hang over his leadership and says the issue is now behind him and he has his [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10663292">Herald reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Labour leader Phil Goff says Chris Carter is not his problem any more and the caucus is moving on.</em></p>
<p><em>He disputes that the two months&#8217; leave Mr Carter wants to take mean a  ongoing cloud will hang over his leadership and says the issue is now  behind him and he has his caucus&#8217; support.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh dear. Maybe in fantasy land. After Phil demanded Carter be expelled from the party, the issue will remain live until the NZ Council do so. And I am unsure they will.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>However, Mr Goff said it was not up to the whips because Mr Carter was no longer in Labour&#8217;s caucus.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s got nothing to do with me. Chris Carter is not part of our caucus,  he doesn&#8217;t need to apply for leave and I am not giving it or  withholding it.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Not that simple. He is still listed as a Labour Member of Parliament, and until someone writes to the Speaker to say he is not a Labour MP, then he is.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Prime Minister John Key said he doubted anything was wrong with the errant MP and it felt like an excuse.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;He didn&#8217;t look very sick to me last week, he looked fairly exercised  about the fact that he didn&#8217;t think Phil Goff could win an election.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I think it was unwise of the PM to offer an opinion, even though his observation is not an unreasonable one. When your opponents are in trouble, you are best to say nothing at all. It looks a bit cheap to put the boot in.</p>
<p>This is a bit out of character for the PM, and I like the <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/the-shadow-out-of-time/">Dim-Post&#8217;s theory</a> on why this has happened, noting that Phil Goff has started to talk about how relaxed he is about things!</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mr Goff said he stood by his earlier comments that he expected  nominations for Mr Carter&#8217;s Te Atatu seat to reopen and that he would  not stay in the party long.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Words that may come back to haunt.</p>

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		<title>Best caption contest this year</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/best_caption_contest_this_year.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been banned from blogging it myself as a caption contest, but <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/caption-contest/">Danyl at Dim Post has done so</a>. Enjoy.</p>

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		<title>Dim Post on McCully and China</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/dim_post_on_mccully_and_china.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 04:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Superb as usual: Foreign Minister Murray McCully has been severely reprimanded by Chinese Ambassador Zhang Limin for exercising poor judgement when using his Ministerial credit card, the Chinese Embassy announced today. Previously Prime Minister John Key has defended McCully’s $2000 laundry bill and high alcohol expenditure but the Chinese Ambassador has overruled Key’s position, calling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/chinese-ambassador-reprimands-mccully-over-credit-card-spending/?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=twitter">Superb</a> as usual:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Foreign Minister Murray McCully has been severely reprimanded by Chinese Ambassador Zhang Limin for exercising poor judgement when using his Ministerial credit card, the Chinese Embassy announced today.</em></p>
<p><em>Previously Prime Minister John Key has defended McCully’s $2000 laundry bill and high alcohol expenditure but the Chinese Ambassador has overruled Key’s position, calling McCully’s spending ‘unseemly and non-magnificent’, and issuing a formal reprimand of the Foreign Minister.</em></p>
<p><em>‘We feel the Minister’s level of decadence is inappropriate and counter-revolutionary,’ the Ambassador announced. ‘This behaviour is not acceptable from Party functionaries and will not be tolerated.’</em></p>
<p><em>McCully has accepted the censure and thanked the Ambassador for his criticism. ‘Only through the wisdom of his Excellency can I reform my thoughts and become a better servant,’ McCully told reporters, speaking from a pool of mud outside his home where he has kneeled prostrate since receiving the rebuke yesterday. ‘I am chastened but also joyful and eternally grateful.’ &#8230;<br />
</em></p>
<p><em>&#8230; ‘We thank McCully for his good and faithful assistance in enlightening Dr Norman’s speech,’ the Ambassador said in his statement. ‘With great perseverance and skillful self-discipline the Snail will once again enjoy the favor of the Dragon.’</em></p>
<p><em>To ensure widespread coverage of the censure Chinese Embassy officials decreed that publication of the statement was mandatory for all media outlets. The Dim-Post is joyful to be of service in this matter.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I trust all blogs will comply with the mandatory reporting.</p>

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		<title>Dim Post on Hodgson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/dim_post_on_hodgson.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl is dangerous when bored: Labour Party MP Pete Hodgson will be leaving Parliament to travel back in time and attack the reputation of Prime Minister John Key as a young boy, senior Labour sources announced today. The Dunedin North MP plans to establish a new identity in the past where he can be close [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danyl is <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/pete-hodgson-to-travel-back-in-time-to-smear-john-key-as-a-child/">dangerous when bored</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Labour Party MP Pete Hodgson will be leaving Parliament to travel back in time and attack the reputation of Prime Minister John Key as a young boy, senior Labour sources announced today.</em></p>
<p><em>The Dunedin North MP plans to establish a new identity in the past where he can be close to the future Prime Minister – possibly as a teacher or friend of the Key family – and accumulate enough evidence to permanently damage Key’s reputation and preclude him from entering politics and becoming leader of the National Party.</em></p>
<p><em>‘We believe that as a ten year old child Key was involved in illegal currency speculation that badly damaged the New Zealand economy,’ Hodgson said. ‘We also have information suggesting that at about this time Key and his friend Derek shoplifted a pornographic magazine from a local dairy.’</em></p>
<p><em>‘I believe these crimes are related,’ Hodgson added. ‘My goal back in 1971 will be to piece together the evidence and present them to the New Zealand public. They will know that slippery John Key is not to be trusted even if the people of today will not. If I am successful the voters of 2008 will never even know Key’s name! How will you spin that Crosby/Textor?’</em></p>
<p><em>The Prime Minister refused to comment on Labour’s plan, saying only that he would be sad to see Mr Hodgson leave Parliament and adding that the Dunedin MP reminded him of an elderly man who lived next door to him as a child. ‘I don’t remember his name though,’ Key said.</em></p>
<p><em>Court records indicate a P Hidgson lived across the road from the Key family in Burnside during the early 1970s. He was later arrested in the United States attempting to blow up the headquarters of Merril Lynch in New York in 1981.</em></p>
<p><em>‘I often wondered what happened to that crafty old guy,’ Key chuckled. ‘He really had it in for me, always hatching some scheme to get me into trouble. When I think about it I wouldn’t be here today if I wasn’t for that sense of cunning and strategy he cultivated in me as a boy.’</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I almost hurt myself from the laughter reading this one.</p>

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		<title>Dim-Post on Ministers credit cards</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/dim-post_on_ministers_credit_cards.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a classic: Lower Hutt based Countdown retail worker Richard Loa announced today that he was deeply embarrassed by revelations that he had been taking items from the store without paying for them. Loa, a 41 year old checkout operator and frozen foods section assistant team leader came forward today to admit that over [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/countdown-employee-red-faced/">This is a classic</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Lower Hutt based Countdown retail worker Richard Loa announced today that he was deeply embarrassed by revelations that he had been taking items from the store without paying for them.</em></p>
<p><em>Loa, a 41 year old checkout operator and frozen foods section assistant team leader came forward today to admit that over a period of four years working at the Wellington supermarket he had taken home bottles of wine, frozen chickens, vitamin pills and razor blades on a weekly basis.</em></p>
<p><em>‘I now accept that this was wrong and I apologise for it,’ Loa said. ‘In my defense the rules around whether or not I could smuggle out bottles of shampoo in my gym bag were vague and unclear.’</em></p>
<p><em>It is understood that Loa came forward after Countdown management announced that they had installed security cameras in the staff changing rooms. These showed footage of Loa eating two large boxes of Lindt chocolates valued at $44 while on breaks during a busy weekend shift.</em></p>
<p><em>‘That’s when I decided that coming clean and explaining everything was the right thing to do,’ Loa said, adding. ‘The chocolates were consumed while I was doing my job although I concede that the security footage is not a good look.’</em></p>
<p><em>‘I would have paid for the chocolates myself but I didn’t have any cash and it seemed more convenient at the time to stuff them under my shirt and eat them in the toilets,’ Loa explained.</em></p>
<p><em>Loa announced that he would repay the value of the chocolates and other items consumed but would not be stepping down from his position as frozen foods assistant team leader.</em></p>
<p><em>‘I’ve made a mistake and I’ve done the right thing and fronted up to it,’ Loa said. ‘I acknowledge that it’s not a good look but frozen food placement faces a lot of challenges and I have some exciting ideas on how to tackle them so I’d like to put this whole thing behind me and move on.’</em></p>
<p><em>This attitude is not shared by Loa’s employer Progressive Foodstuffs who have dismissed him without notice or by the New Zealand Police who have arrested Loa on five charges of theft.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The best paragraph is about how he would have paid but didn&#8217;t have any cash on him, so that makes it okay!</p>

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		<title>A future we can all share in</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/04/a_future_we_can_all_share_in.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[M.I.A, Born Free from ROMAIN-GAVRAS on Vimeo. Danyl at Dim-Post has found this video, and correctly blogged he thought I would approve. I agree it is a wonderful vision of the future, that we can aspire to. I should pass on Danyl&#8217;s warning that it may not be work safe, and will offend some. Tags: [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/11219730">M.I.A, Born Free</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3148077">ROMAIN-GAVRAS</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/this-must-be-what-dpfs-dreams-look-like/?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=twitter">Danyl at Dim-Post has found</a> this video, and correctly blogged he thought I would approve.</p>
<p>I agree it is a wonderful vision of the future, that we can aspire to.</p>
<p>I should pass on Danyl&#8217;s warning that it may not be work safe, and will offend some.</p>

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		<title>Dim-Post on Daylight Saving</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/04/dim-post_on_daylight_saving.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danyl ponders on what would happen if a Government tried today to introduce daylight savingL Setting my clocks back this morning had me thinking about what a great little trick daylight savings is for maximizing use of sunlight hours, but also how impossible it would be to bring in such a scheme today: Labour would [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/horrible-thought/">Danyl ponders</a> on what would happen if a Government tried today to introduce daylight savingL</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Setting my clocks back this morning had me thinking about what a great  little trick daylight savings is for maximizing use of sunlight hours,  but also how impossible it would be to bring in such a scheme today:  Labour would launch a protest bus tour (‘Stop the Clock!’), the Business  Round Table and CIS would insist that we had to set our clocks forward a  thousand hours to catch up with Australia, Herald columnists would  thunder about Wellington bureaucrats kidnapping the sun for an extra  hour every night, the unions would strike for the right to set their  clocks back two hours. The government would compromise and set clocks  back five minutes for a week in mid-June.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I know its satire, but deep down you also know that some of it is true!</p>

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		<title>The House of Lords</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dim-Post dug this up, and it is real, not satire: March 3, 2010 Palace of Westminster: Pest Control Question 3.07 pm Asked By Baroness Finlay of Llandaff To ask the Chairman of Committees what measures are being considered to improve pest control in the Lords’ part of the Palace of Westminster. The Chairman of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/question-time-in-the-house-of-lords-seriously/#comment-18543">Dim-Post dug this up</a>, and it is real, not satire:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>March 3, 2010</em></p>
<p><em>Palace of Westminster: Pest Control Question<br />
<a name="time_2"></a></em> <!--Debate Type--> <em><a name="100303-0001.htm_time2"></a></em></p>
<h5><em><a name="10030366000248"></a>3.07 pm</em></h5>
<p><em><a name="st_0"></a> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT=""--><a name="10030366000750"></a>Asked By <strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spnew0"></a><a name="10030366000580"></a>Baroness  Finlay of Llandaff</strong><!--Baroness Finlay of Llandaff--></em></p>
<ul><em><a name="10030366000265"></a><a name="qnpa_0"></a>To ask the  Chairman of Committees what measures are being considered to improve  pest control in the Lords’ part of the Palace of Westminster.</em></ul>
<p><em><a name="st_1"></a><a name="10030366000003"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spmin0"></a><a name="10030366000581"></a>The  Chairman of Committees (Lord Brabazon of Tara):</strong><!--Lord Brabazon of Tara--></em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1443"--> My Lords, the administration is fully aware of the problem with mice in  the Palace of Westminster and is taking all appropriate measures to  minimise their numbers. We retain the services of an independent pest  control consultant and a full-time pest controller. The current focus is  on poisoning and trapping, blocking of mouse access points, and more  frequent cleaning of bars and restaurants to remove food debris. This  programme was intensified over the February Recess and fewer sightings  of mice have been reported since.</p>
<p><em><a name="st_2"></a><a name="10030366000004"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spnew1"></a><a name="10030366000582"></a>Baroness  Finlay of Llandaff:</strong><!--Baroness Finlay of Llandaff--> I  thank the noble Lord for his reply. How many calls have there been to  the mouse helpline? Has the accuracy of that information been checked,  given that the staff report seeing mice on a daily basis at the moment  in the eating areas? Has consideration been given to having  hypoallergenic cats on the estate, given the history? Miss Wilson, when  she was a resident superintendent in this Palace, had a cat that  apparently caught up to 60 mice a night. The corpses were then swept up  in the morning. Finally, does the noble Lord recognise the fire hazard  that mice pose, because they eat through insulating cables? It would be a  tragedy for this beautiful Palace to burn down for lack of a cat.</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1443"--></p>
<p><em><a name="st_3"></a><a name="10030366000005"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spmin1"></a><a name="10030366000583"></a>The  Chairman of Committees:</strong><!--The Chairman of Committees--> My Lords, there are a number of questions there. I cannot give an  answer to the number of calls made to the mouse helpline-if that is its  title. I suspect that it would not be a good use of resources to count  them up. But I am well aware of the problem of mice, as I said in my  Answer. It is something that we take seriously.</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1443"--></p>
<p><em><a name="stpa_1"></a><a name="10030366000006"></a>As for getting a  cat, I answered a Question from the noble Lord, Lord Elton, last week on  this matter. I was not aware that such a thing as a hypoallergenic cat  existed-I do not know whether our cat at home is one of those. There are  a number of reasons why it is not a good idea to have cats. First, they  would ingest mouse poison when eating poisoned mice, which would not be  very nice for them, and there would be nothing to keep them where they  are needed or stop them walking around the House on desks in offices or  on tables in restaurants and bars-and maybe even in the Chamber itself.  Therefore, we have ruled out at this stage the possibility of acquiring a  cat, or cats.</em></p>
<p><em><a name="st_4"></a><a name="10030366000007"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spnew2"></a><a name="10030366000584"></a>Lord  Bradshaw:</strong><!--Lord Bradshaw--> I have spoken  continually to the staff in the eating places in the House and I  acknowledge that there has been some diminution in the number of mice  around. But could I press the noble Lord, because further action needs  to be taken? I know that this is an old building, but mice are still  here and we are talking about places where food is served. I have no  magic solution, but perhaps the consultant who is being employed might  have some answers.</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1444"--></p>
<p><em><a name="st_5"></a><a name="10030366000008"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spmin2"></a><a name="10030366000585"></a>The  Chairman of Committees:</strong><!--The Chairman of Committees--> My Lords, I am well aware that there are still mice around. I saw one  in the Bishops’ Bar only yesterday evening. I do not know whether it was  the same one that I saw the day before or a different one; it is always  difficult to tell the difference between the various mice that one  sees. We believe that the problem is getting better. Cleaning is one of  the measures we are taking, as I outlined in my original Answer. As I  speak here this afternoon, the Bishops’ Bar and the Guest Room are being  hoovered, so we can get rid of the food scraps from lunch. If you were a  mouse, you would rather eat the crumbs of a smoked salmon sandwich than  the bait. Therefore, we want to remove the crumbs as quickly as  possible.</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1444"--></p>
<p><em><a name="st_6"></a><a name="10030366000009"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spnew3"></a><a name="10030366000586"></a>Lord  Pilkington of Oxenford:</strong><!--Lord Pilkington of Oxenford--> Why should I and noble Lords trust the Executive to deal with mice when  they cannot deal with the economy?</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1444"--></p>
<p><em><a name="st_7"></a><a name="10030366000010"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spmin3"></a><a name="10030366000587"></a>The  Chairman of Committees:</strong><!--The Chairman of Committees--> My Lords, I do not actually deal with the economy. I am glad to say  that that would be above my pay grade, whereas trying to deal with the  mice is probably just about right for me.</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1444"--></p>
<p><em><a name="st_8"></a><a name="10030366000011"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spnew4"></a><a name="10030366000588"></a>Baroness  Symons of Vernham Dean:</strong><!--Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean--> My Lords, I was in total ignorance that there was anything of the  nature of a mouse helpline until this Question Time. Can the Chairman of  Committees tell us what helplines there are for Members of the House on  other issues that we do not know about?</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1444"--></p>
<p><em><a name="st_9"></a><a name="10030366000012"></a><strong></strong><strong><a name="100303-0001.htm_spmin4"></a><a name="10030366000589"></a>The  Chairman of Committees:</strong><!--The Chairman of Committees--> I rather hope that we do not have too many other ones. I was not going  to advertise the existence of the mouse helpline, although it was  advertised some time ago. Indeed, I invited Members of the House to  telephone when they saw mice. The trouble is that when the person at the  other end of the helpline goes to check this out, very often the mouse  has gone elsewhere.</em> <!--meta name="Colno" CONTENT="1444"--></p></blockquote>
<p>Danyl has a link to the Hansard if you don&#8217;t believe it is real.</p>

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		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Humour]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Gerry Brownlee]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports: Mallard cleverly tricked National MPs into not objecting to leave for a motion congratulating Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce for getting his degree some two decades ago. It was very amusing. The Govt did drop the ball on this one, and Labour deserved their fun. The actual motion moved was to congratulate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10633986&amp;pnum=0">Herald reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mallard cleverly tricked National MPs into not objecting to leave for a motion  congratulating Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce for getting his  degree some two decades ago.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It was very amusing. The Govt did drop the ball on this one, and Labour deserved their fun.</p>
<p>The actual motion moved was to congratulate Steven Joyce on getting his degree conferred 21 years after he started it.</p>
<p>The Dim-Post is in fine form with its <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/mining-the-conservation-estate/">version of the Government&#8217;s mining policy</a>:</p>
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<li><em>Amendment to Crown Minerals Act prohibits Energy Minister Gerry  Brownlee from yelling ‘I’d like to open up her schedule four’ whenever  an attractive aide enters the Cabinet room.</em></li>
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<li><em>Streamlined process for mining consents to make it easier for  everyday New Zealanders to operate their own open pit cast mines or  surgically excavate their back yards.</em></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><em>State Services Commission enquiry to find out who keeps adding   ‘unobtanium’ to the list of rare minerals detected in Mt Aspiring.
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<li><em>$4 million dollars for extensive exploration of Coromandal focusing  on area where Gerry Brownlee lost his beloved teddy-bear ‘Mister Wookie’  while on a day walk as a child.</em></li>
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<p>The Mister Wookie one especially just cracks me up.</p>

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