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	<title>Kiwiblog &#187; Metiria Turei</title>
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		<title>The Greens view of business</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/02/the_greens_view_of_business.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Greens]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Metiria Turei]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[John Roughan writes at NZ Herald: Then Hone Harawira and Greens co-leader Metiria Turei were called to the platform. Turei, declaring her background to be anarchism, said her concept of life was that we all lived in a cage with wild monsters trying to tear down the walls that protected us. These monsters were corporate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Roughan <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10784754">writes at NZ Herald</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Then Hone Harawira and Greens co-leader Metiria Turei were called to the platform. Turei, declaring her background to be anarchism, said her concept of life was that we all lived in a cage with wild monsters trying to tear down the walls that protected us.</em></p>
<p><em>These monsters were corporate capitalism, she said, and she saw her job as trying to push out the walls of the cage and increase our living space. Weird.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes wild monsters are trying to eat our young and destroy us. They&#8217;re called businesses and are evil.</p>

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		<title>Spot the MP</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/02/spot_the_mp.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Humour]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[gaming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Metiria Turei]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[One fairly well known MP here, in her days as a LARPer or live action role playing gamers. In the many levels of nerdiness associated with gaming, the LARPers are the top of the pyramid Hat Tip: Whale UPDATE: A commenter points out LARPing would be more popular if it was all like in this [...]]]></description>
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<p>One fairly well known MP here, in her days as a LARPer or live action role playing gamers. In the many levels of nerdiness associated with gaming, the LARPers are the top of the pyramid <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hat Tip: <a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/02/those-whacky-greens/">Whale</a></p>
<p>UPDATE: A commenter points out LARPing would be more popular if it was all like in this photo below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/larping1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-59612" title="larping1" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/larping1-560x420.jpg" alt="" width="560" height="420" /></a></p>
<p>Image <a href="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c228/wrytergrrrl/larping1.jpg">located here</a>.</p>

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		<title>Turei on The Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/06/turei_on_the_nation.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 05:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Greens]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Metiria Turei]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[The Nation]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Metiria Turei handled her interview on The Nation very well &#8211; defending the Greens from Sue Bradford&#8217;s claims they have swing to the right (if only). Turei used a line, which I have advocated in the past they should use, that they can work constructively with both National and Labour and regardless of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Metiria Turei handled her <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Metiria-Turei-on-The-Nation---full-interview/tabid/419/articleID/214719/Default.aspx">interview on The Nation</a> very well &#8211; defending the Greens from Sue Bradford&#8217;s claims they have swing to the right (if only).</p>
<p>Turei used a line, which I have advocated in the past they should use, that they can work constructively with both National and Labour and regardless of who forms the Government, they&#8217;ll aim to make it a greener Government. It&#8217;s a good message which could well appeal to some swininging voters who may be saying they want John Key as Prime Minister but would like the Government to do more on environmental issues.</p>
<p>Again no one should think that if they have a choice, the Greens won&#8217;t install a Labour-led Government. They will, unless Labour totally alienate them.</p>
<p>But given the probability of at least a second term of a National-led Government, it is smart to portray yourselves as able to have influence, rather than just opposition.</p>

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		<title>Rugby jersies in Parliament</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/06/rugby_jersies_in_parliament.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 03:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Clare Curran]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Lockwood Smith]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Metiria Turei]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Parliament]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[sexism]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Stuff reports: Labour MP Clare Curran has been kicked out of Parliament for wearing a Highlanders Super Rugby jersey. Curran appeared at Parliamentary questions this afternoon wearing the team&#8217;s old blue, gold and maroon kit in protest at the new lime green colour. Speaker Lockwood Smith declared the jersey violated Parliament&#8217;s strict dress codes and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/5109781/Dunedin-MP-removed-from-Parliament-for-wearing-rugby-jersey">reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Labour MP Clare Curran has been kicked out of Parliament for wearing a Highlanders Super Rugby jersey.</em></p>
<p><em>Curran appeared at Parliamentary questions this afternoon wearing the team&#8217;s old blue, gold and maroon kit in protest at the new lime green colour.</em></p>
<p><em>Speaker Lockwood Smith declared the jersey violated Parliament&#8217;s strict dress codes and ordered Curran to leave.</em></p>
<p><em>Labour colleague Trevor Mallard protested the decision.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I would have thought a rugby jersey was a pretty obvious &#8220;no&#8221; in terms of meeting the House dress code.</p>
<p>Personally I think the dress code should be relaxed so men do not have to have a tie and jacket, but even I would hestitate to suggest that rugby jersies should be acceptable in the House.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Her ejection from Parliament highlighted the lack of rules around what women should wear in the House, she said.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;I certainly never expected to be thrown out of the House for being a woman wearing a football shirt. I think it was an over reaction.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>She said she was surprised and would consider whether she would change and return to Parliament this afternoon.</em></p>
<p><em>Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei left the House with Curran.</em></p>
<p><em>Turei later tweeted saying it was an example of sexism in Parliament continuing. &#8220;Has Ross Robertson ever been scolded for his sports team scarves let alone kicked out? No&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I hate it when people cry sexism mindlessly.  And this is mindless.</p>
<p>I have absolutely no doubt that a male MP would be kicked out by Lockwood for wearing a rugby jersey in the House.</p>
<p>If anything, the rules are sexist against men. The dress code for men is far more proscriptive than for women MPs.</p>

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		<title>Economic Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/05/economic_stupidity.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 23:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil Reid at Sunday News reports: RAISING the minimum wage would boost the economy and Government&#8217;s piggy bank, plus keep Kiwis from moving across the Tasman. That&#8217;s the message Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei has for Finance Minister Bill English ahead of Thursday&#8217;s 2011-12 Budget. Turei wants the minimum wage lifted by $2 an hour [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil Reid at Sunday News <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-news/5005344/Raise-wages-to-stop-brain-drain-says-MP/">reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>RAISING the minimum wage would boost the economy and Government&#8217;s piggy bank, plus keep Kiwis from moving across the Tasman.</em></p>
<p><em>That&#8217;s the message Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei has for Finance Minister Bill English ahead of Thursday&#8217;s 2011-12 Budget.</em></p>
<p><em>Turei wants the minimum wage lifted by $2 an hour from the current $13.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour would not only significantly improve their lives at a time when living costs are soaring, it would also generate up to $173 million per year for the Government at a time when the fiscal deficit is ballooning,&#8221; Turei told Sunday News.</em></p>
<p><em>The rise would immediately generate an extra $101m a year in increased PAYE taxes, she said. It would give 300,000 workers increased spending power, leading to a gain of about $72m annually from GST.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This argument is so economically illiterate, I don&#8217;t know where to start.</p>
<p>First of all if PAYE taxes  go up $101m a year, then the company tax will drop by more than that. Let&#8217;s say those 300,000 workers are around 150,000 full time equivalents. If their pay goes up from $13/hr to $15/hr, they will gain $4,160 each before tax, or $624m in total.</p>
<p>At 17.5%, this will lead to an increased PAYE tax take of $109m &#8211; close to the $101m quoted.</p>
<p>But the employers will have had their profits drop by $624m, and they pay 30% tax on that. So that is $187m less tax paid in company tax.</p>
<p>So Turei&#8217;s argument is just nonsense. She has deliberately ignored the impact on company tax.</p>
<p>Beyond the direct fiscal costs, there are also flow on effects such as job losses. Youth unemployment would continue to skyrocket if you made it illegal to hire a 16 year old for less than $15 an hour.</p>

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		<title>The next Governor-General</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/08/the_next_governor-general.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports: Prime Minister John Key is about to consider who the next Governor-General will be. And the word is he may buck the recent trend of appointing a former judge and opt for someone more unorthodox to the role. Some of the names being tossed around by observers include Sir Don McKinnon, Wellington [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10666569">Herald reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Prime Minister John Key is about to consider who the next  Governor-General will be. And the word is he may buck the recent trend  of appointing a former judge and opt for someone more unorthodox to the  role.</em></p>
<p><em>Some of the names being tossed around by observers include Sir Don  McKinnon, Wellington Mayor Kerry Prendergast and arts patron Dame Jenny  Gibbs.</em></p>
<p><em>Philanthropist and recently named Distinguished Citizen of Auckland  Rosie Horton said one person stood head and shoulders above others.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Sir Don McKinnon. He has had an outstanding and highly revered  international life and done a stunning job at the Commonwealth  Secretariat, and he&#8217;s just a very fine New Zealander that we can all be  proud of. And he&#8217;s come back to New Zealand.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>On a personal level, Sir Don would be well suited for the role and would perform it well. However I maintain that former MPs should not be appointed to the job, regardless of how meritorious their post-parliamentary life.  The GG should be non-partisan.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;[Philanthropist and arts patron] Dame Jenny Gibbs is also marvellous,  very clever and gracious to meet and such a marvellous role model.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Dame Jenny is an interesting possibility.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Property investor Sir Robert Jones said the Governor-General should be a New Zealander who was not a token appointment.</em></p>
<p><em>He said Kerry Prendergast would &#8220;be wonderful at the job&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Heh I presume this means he is not standing a Mayoral candidate against her. While there would be precedent fer Kerry to be given the job, as Cath Tizard was, I still maintain that Kerry&#8217;s national party background makes her a sub-optimal appointment. Again, nothing to do with her personal qualities, but that the GG should not be a political figure.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Asked about Maori academic Sir Mason Durie, Sir Robert said he would be  &#8220;very tokenistic&#8221;, and former Labour Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer  would be &#8220;most unsuitable&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t see it going to a former Labour PM.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei would support a female  representative of ethnic groups, but insisted she was not throwing her  own hat into the ring.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I am surprised Metiria only insisted that the GG be ethnic and female. She forget to include the additional criteria of being left handed and disabled.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>She said former Rugby World Cup Ambassador Andy Haden &#8220;might not be the best option&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Can agree on that one.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The appointment is the Prime Minister&#8217;s alone. He can consult whom he wants, or no one at all.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Which is why I think the effective head of state should be (at a minimum) appointed by Parliament, not by the PM solely.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>If Mr Key decided that another judge should live in Government House,  then Chief Justice Dame Sian Elias could be a candidate, though husband  Hugh Fletcher might be a more popular choice.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>There is no way the Chief Justice will give up that job to become Governor-General.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Sir Kenneth Keith, who is serving on the International Court of Justice, may be less controversial than either of them.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Sir Kenneth would be a fine choice in my opinion.</p>

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		<title>Do the Greens want 60 Maori seats?</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/04/do_the_greens_want_60_maori_seats.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Facebook]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Maori Seats]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Metiria Turei]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[On Facebook there is a group called Maori 60. It&#8217;s description is: Maori should be equal partners with settlers in the NZ government. There are now 120 MPs. Maori should control 60 seats. The most prominent member of Maori 60 is Green co-leader Metiria Turei. That is some heavweight support, to have a party leader [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Facebook there is a group called <a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=430406150351&amp;ref=search&amp;sid=633295420.1366105748..1">Maori 60</a>. It&#8217;s description is:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Maori should be equal partners with settlers in the NZ government.   There are now 120 MPs.  Maori should control 60 seats.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The most prominent member of Maori 60 is Green co-leader Metiria Turei.</p>
<p>That is some heavweight support, to have a party leader join your group.</p>
<p>I wonder how many Green Party voters know that their co-leader does not support a democracy where all votes are roughly equal, but where 15% of the population should have 50% of the seats, and the other 85% have the other 50%. That make a vote from someone with Maori ancestry six times more powerful than a vote from someone who does not have the right relatives.</p>

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		<title>Trevor lashes back at Metiria</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trevor Mallard hits back at Metiria Turei after she highlighted how he had unfriended her on Facebook: Last night Metiria Turei used my status to attack Labour. Of all things it was on our record on the minimum wage – probably one of the best areas of progress the last government – but the subject [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor Mallard <a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=10159">hits back</a> at Metiria Turei after she highlighted how he had unfriended her on Facebook:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blog.greens.org.nz');" href="http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/28/trevor-defriended-me-on-fb-and-im-a-bit-sad-about-that/">Last night Metiria Turei used my status to attack Labour</a>. Of all things it was on our record on the minimum wage – probably one of the best areas of progress the last government – but the subject doesn’t matter.</em></p>
<p><em>As I said above I’m new to facebook.  I regard my page like my home. I chose who is there. While there are lots of discussions initiated by constituents I decide whether they run or not. But the idea of politicians using the comments section of my status to attack me just doesn’t seem right.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Good God. If you are an MP and you use your Facebook page to try and score political points, it is rather precious to then ban people because they disagree with you. Let alone the co-leader of your own remaining friendly party.</p>
<p>Metiria herself is an avid user of social media and on Twitter (for example) people often disagree with her on an issue. She normally responds constructively, and all is fine.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>ps   I found Rod Donald and Sue Bradford good to work with (and Jeanette but only for a short time) – so its not a green allergy.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Ouch that makes it worse. He is saying it is personal with Metiria. And consider his earlier comment:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Not much real help from you guys esp since Russel started cuddling tories.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So Trevor is slagging off not one but both co-leaders of the Greens. Way to go.</p>
<p>I really wonder if Phil Goff is in control of his own caucus.</p>

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		<title>Trevor unfriends Metiria</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Metiria Turia blogs: Trevor Mallard defriended me on Facebook last night and I have to tell you the story. He also defriended another person for asking the same questions I did. Not terribly sporting, I would have thought. Metiria&#8217;s sin was to point out the gap between Labour&#8217;s rhetoric on the minimum wage and their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metiria <a href="http://blog.greens.org.nz/2010/01/28/trevor-defriended-me-on-fb-and-im-a-bit-sad-about-that/">Turia blogs</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Trevor Mallard defriended me on Facebook last night and I have to tell you the story. He also defriended another person for asking the same questions I did. Not terribly sporting, I would have thought.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Metiria&#8217;s sin was to point out the gap between Labour&#8217;s rhetoric on the minimum wage and their record.</p>
<p>And Trevor got so annoyed he unfriended her!! Seriously &#8211; just like a teenager does when they are in a huff.</p>
<p>I love Labour&#8217;s strategy for making friends and influencing people.</p>
<p>First Shane Jones insults a priest at Ratana, and them declares war against the Maori Party.</p>
<p>And now Trevor Mallard defriends on Facebook the co-leader of the Green Party.</p>
<p>What next? Will Annette King call Jim Anderton a authoritarian tyrant, to get rid of their one remaining friend?</p>

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		<title>The worst behaved in Parliament list</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald reports: United Future leader Peter Dunne has given up on his annual list of worst-behaved MPs, saying Speaker Lockwood Smith&#8217;s reign has ushered in a new era of dignity and propriety. To be fair, I think the absence of Winston helps also. But the House has been a far less toxic place this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10617121">Herald reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>United Future leader Peter Dunne has given up on his annual list of worst-behaved MPs, saying Speaker Lockwood Smith&#8217;s reign has ushered in a new era of dignity and propriety.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>To be fair, I think the absence of Winston helps also. But the House has been a far less toxic place this year.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mr Dunne did honour Labour&#8217;s Trevor Mallard with a lifetime achievement award in bad behaviour &#8220;for services to melodrama, fisticuffs, and generally aberrant behaviour&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>When Lockwood orders him to apologise, you can actually see the supressed rage in his eyes!!</p>
<p>The Herald does find a few insults though:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Labour&#8217;s Moana Mackey apologised for referring to Hekia Parata as &#8220;Lady Parata&#8221; and &#8220;her royal highness&#8221;. National&#8217;s Paul Quinn was pulled up for calling Labour&#8217;s backbench &#8220;monkeys&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d rather be called Lady Parata than a monkey I have to say &#8211; well if I was a female Parata that is!</p>
<p>Some apologies:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>SHANE JONES<br />
For saying of Energy Minister Gerry Brownlee, &#8220;the notion of him and energy is a mathematical impossibility&#8221;.</em></p>
<p><em>PHIL HEATLEY<br />
For claiming another &#8220;fiddled the books&#8221; in ACC and Housing; for wishing the Speaker would use a 90-day eviction order on Trevor Mallard.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Heh.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>RODNEY HIDE<br />
For North Shore Mayor Andrew Williams&#8217; &#8220;madness&#8221;, for calling Trevor Mallard &#8220;the angry one&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t truth a defence?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>JOHN KEY<br />
For claiming Green MP Metiria Turei thought Phil Goff was &#8220;racist&#8221;. She had said his speech was &#8220;the worst kind of politics&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So worse than racism?</p>

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		<title>Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill submissions</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can make a submission until 10 December on the Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill. The bill is generally excellent &#8211; it merges the Electoral Commission and the Chief Electoral Office, and allows the Commission to give advice on the legality of propose ads etc. The one change I would like is to the method of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/MakeSub/1/e/f/49SCJE_SCF_00DBHOH_BILL9636_1-Electoral-Administration-Amendment-Bill.htm">make a submission</a> until 10 December on the Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill.</p>
<p>The bill is generally excellent &#8211; it merges the Electoral Commission and the Chief Electoral Office, and allows the Commission to give advice on the legality of propose ads etc.</p>
<p>The one change I would like is to the method of appointment of the Electoral Commissioners. The current bill provides for the Minister to (effectively) appoint them after consulting with other parties. I would like to see the appointments either made by Parliament directly, or for the consultation requirement to be made an agreement requirement.</p>
<p>The reason is that different Ministers interpret a consultation requirement in different ways. I know in the 1990s that National consulted Helen Clark as Opposition Leader on some appointments and actually withdrew proposed nominees after Clark objected.</p>
<p>But when Margaret Wilson was Attorney-General, she was terrible. Her idea of consultation was to send a letter out Friday notifying the name of the person she proposes to have Cabinet appoint on Monday.</p>
<p>I was hoping some MPs would touch on this issue in the <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/e/4/9/49HansD_20091027_00001009-Electoral-Administration-Amendment-Bill.htm">first reading</a>, and they did:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Hon DAVID PARKER (Labour)</strong> <strong>:</strong> The Labour Opposition will be supporting the Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill. I thank the Minister of Justice for the consultative process that has surrounded this bill. He has properly engaged with Labour, as, indeed, I am sure he has with other parties in this House in the preparation of this bill. As a consequence of that, Labour members are happy to support it in its reference to a select committee.           Initially, the Electoral Commission, which is a new body set up by this bill and not the current Electoral Commission, was to include the Secretary for Justice as a member. Labour and, I understand, some other parties said that would not be right. Of course, the Secretary for Justice is the head of a Government department, so it would not be appropriate for that office holder to hold a role on the new Electoral Commission. The Minister agreed with that, so the commission will now be fully independent, and we agree that that is appropriate.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is an example of good consultation. Simon Power had feedback from other parties, and modified the proposal. My concern is not about Simon as Minister of Justice failing to act on consultations. He won&#8217;t be Minister for ever, and my concern is some future Minister will act like Margaret Wilson and ignore any objections from consultation. That is why I think it should requirement agreement, not consultation.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I think there is still a question as to how the commission should be appointed. I have heard some people suggest that the commission ought to be appointed by Parliament, rather than by the Minister as part of the Government. I think that some people may submit on that issue to the select committee. We in Labour would be interested to hear from submitters and be informed by them on that matter.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m glad David Parker raised the issue, and hope that Labour will agree to a change &#8211; despite the fact they will be Government again one day.</p>
<p>The need for independence is even greater now, with the Chief Electoral Officer being one of the three Commissioners, as the CEO is the key individual who actually runs the election, and declares the result.</p>
<p>Previously the CEO was within the Ministry of Justice. So the State Services Commissioner appointed the Secretary of Justice and the Secretary of Justice appointed the CEO. While I don&#8217;t particularly like it being witin the Ministry of Justice, it did make it hard for a Minister to put in someone inappropriate.</p>
<p>Now though the Minister can appoint the Chief Electoral Officer directly. That is too great a power I submit.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>METIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader—Green)</strong> <strong>:</strong> I do not intend to take a long call on the Electoral (Administration) Amendment Bill. The Green Party will support its first reading to get it before the select committee. We look forward to submissions by the public on the bill. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>When the National Government consulted the Greens on the proposal, we suggested from the outset that an Officer of Parliament &#8211; type body should be established, that it would be preferable to ensure that the new agency is absolutely and fully independent of the Government, and does not report to a Minister. The Officer of Parliament model is used here in Aotearoa with the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, for example. It is also used in Canada for their electoral organisation and management. It places the oversight of the body with Parliament, as opposed to a ministry of the Government managed by one particular political interest. It reinforces its role to oversee and enable free and fair elections, which is a core concern of the House of Representatives and of Parliament. Certainly an Officer of Parliament model would be perceived by the public as more truly independent and would have more ability to comment on how the electoral process is operating, because it would not report to a particular Minister in the executive.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with Metiria that the Commission is most suitable to be an Officer of Parliament. If this change is not practical in the short-term, than a fallback option is to at least require the Minister to gain agreement, not just consultation, with a super-majority of parties on appointments.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>CHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour)</strong> <strong>: </strong></em></p>
<p><em>There is also the police, and I will speak a little bit about their function, because the police are the enforcement body as far as our electoral law is concerned. </em></p>
<p><em>Although Labour supports this bill being read a first time, we believe that the bill does not address the issue of the enforcement machinery when there is a breach of electoral law. I suggest that that might be something the select committee looks at. The problem that the police always have, of course, is that electoral offences never go to the top of the queue. The police will always be concerned with crimes against the person, and with dealing particularly with violent crime. They will never be able to prioritise electoral matters, nor will they necessarily have the forensic expertise to do so. These days those questions require skills in dealing with tracking donations and financial disclosures, and so on, which call for quite sophisticated levels of skill that are probably more properly found in organisations like the Serious Fraud Office rather than the police. It might well be that with the forensic skills that are required, it would be useful to think about having an enforcement function under this new independent Crown entity rather than the police being responsible for that function, if we are truly interested in bringing all the functions together in an expert body that has the resources and the time to deal with the questions before it.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with Charles that the Police do not see electoral breaches as a priority and it would be better with the Commission. However that is not so much an issue for this bill, but more for the bill which will come out of the Govt&#8217;s electoral finance review.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The final point I make is that if one has a look at the explanatory note, one sees that one of the options canvassed was to have an Officer of Parliament for this function. Personally, I think that would have been the most compelling option to go for. The explanatory note suggests there was not enough time to get that sort of apparatus going before the next election. But if we really want a truly independent body, charged with the conduct of elections in an honest and serious way, then, given the conduct of our other Officers of Parliament, in whom we have enormous faith, then that seems to me to be the best way to go.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Excellent.</p>
<p>What has been nice is that all the Opposition praised Simon Power for his consultation with them over the bill. It is great to see the merger happening after years and years of no action, and electoral law should be an area of bipartisanship as much as possible &#8211; it is too important to be treated as a bauble of office, as some sort of winner takes all prize.</p>
<p>I hope other people take the time to do a submission. If you don&#8217;t, then no complaining if you wake up one day in the future to read that Winston Peters has been appointed as an Electoral Commissioner <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

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		<title>More on Greens over-charging</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/10/more_on_greens_over-charging.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dom Post reports: The Greens have paid back $6000 wrongly claimed for accommodation allowances after discovering they had been double-dipping for two MPs sharing a house. Co-leader Metiria Turei said the error was uncovered in June during an annual assessment of the property&#8217;s market rent after MP Catherine Delahunty moved into the house with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2930184/Greens-pay-back-double-dip-rent-error">Dom Post reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Greens have paid back $6000 wrongly claimed for accommodation allowances after discovering they had been double-dipping for two MPs sharing a house.</em></p>
<p><em>Co-leader Metiria Turei said the error was uncovered in June during an annual assessment of the property&#8217;s market rent after MP Catherine Delahunty moved into the house with Jeanette Fitzsimons.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;She and Jeanette each continued to claim the rent that Jeanette had claimed alone from February till May.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>The money was paid back last week, though Ms Turei conceded it should have been handed over in June when the overcharging was discovered.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Why on earth did it take until late September to pay it back, when the error was discovered in late June? Did the Greens notify the Parliamentary Service in June of the double dipping or did they just start charging less?</p>
<p>If the Greens had paid the money back in June, and in June put out a press release saying they had accidentally over-charged, then this would have been a very minor story. But by not paying the money back until TVNZ started asking questions some months later, and not living up to their self-proclaimed transparency standards, they have scored a real own goal.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The fund was set up in 1998 by former co-leader Rod Donald to take advantage of Parliament&#8217;s rules.</em></p>
<p><em>These allow an out-of-Wellington MP to qualify for an allowance, even if they own or have an interest in the property. They can claim for rent or interest costs (but not principal) on a mortgage to a maximum of $24,000 a year.</em></p>
<p><em>Opponents have criticised the Greens&#8217; arrangement, saying while it is within the rules it allows them to claim full market rent, even if the mortgage interest is much less.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. It is a legal rort. Now the Greens will not be alone doing it that way. I am sure other MPs have. But the rules should be changed so MPs do not have a direct or indirect interest in any property they rent. You can not be landlord and tenant in my book.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But Ms Turei said the rents were set below market value, and she was confident that in the past the Greens had always charged less than market rent.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>But that is not the issue. The issue is that by vesting the property in their super fund, they are maximising the amount they could claim.</p>
<p>And while of course any rental payments are set at what some valuer says is the market rent, it is very advantageous to have a guaranteed tenant for ever, willing to pay whatever the valuer says should be paid (up to $24K a year per person), rather than actually having to find tenants, have periods of vacancy, use a property management company etc etc.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Ms Turei said the Greens&#8217; setup was not a &#8220;rort&#8221;. But the system should be reviewed, including whether MPs should be able to personally benefit from an allowance, as they had for decades.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>A rort is hard to define. But it is a situation where vesting the property in the super fund, has allowed them to claim far more money.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;When I first got into Parliament MPs from other parties told me that is the first thing I should do – buy a flat in Wellington – because the [mortgage] interest would be paid.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but the Greens have gone even beyond that &#8211; as they get to claim full rental, not just covering the interest on a mortgage.</p>

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		<title>Q+A exposes Greens housing scheme</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Delighted to see, after I have been blogging on the issue for some time, that TVNZ started asking questions about the scheme where the Greens vest property in their superannuation fund, so they can claim rent from themselves. It turns out to be even worse than I suspected. Not only are they doing this, they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delighted to see, after I have been blogging on the issue for some time, that TVNZ started asking questions about the scheme where the Greens vest property in their superannuation fund, so they can claim rent from themselves.</p>
<p>It turns out to be even worse than I suspected. Not only are they doing this, they were charging $1,000 a week for a modest house in Thorndon, and secretly paid the money back.</p>
<p>First the transcript from Q+A:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Okay in the last section  of this interview I want to talk about one of the roles that the Green Party has  had in politics this year, which is the greater transparency around MPs&#8217;  expenses, and I want to look at the way that you manage your own accommodation.   Now you have the Green Futures super fund, your own super fund, it owns two  properties it rents to three MPs in Wellington.  Now they take about $48,000 a year  to live in those homes owned by the Green Party, and they plough that money back  into your own super fund.  Now do you think that the average worker would think  that that was a fair use of taxpayers&#8217; money?</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>METIRIA</strong> Well look there&#8217;s four  issues that need to be understood here.  First, the super trust has been going  now for 12 years, has been approved by Parliamentary Services and by the  Speaker, and has been transparent.  Second, MPs have to live somewhere, some MPs  buy flats in Wellington and then claim housing allowance for  those flats, the super fund, the super trust has been consistently seeking,  asking rents that are below market value.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The arrangements were at first within the rules (but as Bill found out that does not count for a lot!), but they were not transparent &#8211; we have only found out today what happened secretly.</p>
<p>Secondly Turei is not quite correct when she says an MP can buy a flat and claim a housing allowance for it. <strong>If the MP owns the flat directly, they can only claim the cost of interest on a mortgage. But by vesting it in their super fund, they get to claim a much higher market rental.</strong></p>
<p>Finally, as we leant, they were literally double dipping by having two MPs charge close to the maximum for the same place &#8211; well above market rental.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Well let me pick you up  on that point about market value.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> Earlier this year we did  – those went out of whack, between February and March of 2009 one of the houses,  MPs were claiming over the market value, we fixed that valuation in June to make  sure they&#8217;re only being asked to pay under market value, and last week we  refunded that over claim.  So we made a mistake and we fixed  it.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> So you have refunded  Parliamentary Services.  So you’ve become a second party to refund.  Let me talk  viewers through this because they won&#8217;t know about it, and let&#8217;s look at this  Wellington home where Jeanette Fitzsimons and Catherine Delahunty live, now it&#8217;s  a fairly modest house, but over a four month period from February to May this  year, those two MPs paid a thousand dollars a week in rent out of taxpayers&#8217;  money to live there, nearly double the market rate.  Now that’s a rip-off pure  and simple isn&#8217;t it?</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> We made a mistake, we&#8217;re  not happy about it, we fixed the rent in June to make sure that they were paying  under market value from that point on, and we have refunded the money, I mean I  agree mistakes are – you know they&#8217;re not a good  look&#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I would love to know who made the mistake, and who discovered it and put ir right. Surely they knew you can&#8217;t have two MPs living at the same place both charging almost $500 a week in rent?</p>
<p>The residence in question is in Thorndon and is valued at around $510,000. It is a three bedroom residence taking up 99 square metres. Hardly the sort of place you could think is worth $1,000 a week.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Well let&#8217;s look at this  mistake though because there is a certain degree of cynicism about this.  On  June 1st when you took over as leader you said we&#8217;re throwing open our expenses  to the public, we&#8217;re going to be open about this, what you didn’t tell us is  that behind the scenes you were doing a market valuation on this property and  you found out that you were actually charging the taxpayer double, you didn’t  tell us that, then you came out and released  your expenses and it&#8217;s only become  public because we started asking questions this week, I mean you&#8217;re no better  than anyone else.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> I was not aware of the  market valuation at the time that we &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON </strong>Well why  wasn’t a market valuation done in the first place?</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> We did, we do them every  year.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> But this is the problem  with these cosy arrangement isn&#8217;t it because you are your own landlord so no one  really cares what the market value, muggings the taxpayer picks up the  bill.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is why I have consistently advocated that MPs should not own directly or indirectly any property they claim rent for as a tenant. You can not be landlord and tenant. It has been legal to do so up until now, but I think the rules should change.</p>
<p><strong>METIRIA</strong> That is why we released  our expenses before any other party did, don’t forget we did this off our own  back, we released those expenses, we&#8217;ve got out of whack with the rent, and  we&#8217;ve refunded.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> How  much?</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>METIRIA</strong> It&#8217;s about six thousand  dollars.  About six thousand dollars we refunded.</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>GUYON</strong> To Parliamentary  Services?</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>METIRIA</strong> To Parliamentary  Services.</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>GUYON</strong> Where was the press  release on that?</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>METIRIA</strong> We made sure – well  that’s why I&#8217;m telling  you now, on national television so you’ve got the  information, and so the whole public have got the  information.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re telling because Guyon asked the right questions.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON </strong>But you  wouldn’t have if we hadn’t started asking questions would you, that’s the  thing.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> We made a mistake, we  acknowledged that mistake, we fixed it, we fixed the mistake and we&#8217;ve refunded  the money, and you&#8217;re quite right to raise it, and the public quite rightly has  a right to know which is why we&#8217;re telling you about it  today.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> It was cynical though  wasn’t it, because you didn’t tell people that behind the scenes you were  tidying up your own arrangements before you laundered them, and made sure that  they were actually legitimate before you released them, you never told us about  that.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> I can understand that you  want this to be kind of you know a big story and I understand why that’s the  case&#8230;</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> No it&#8217;s a question  because you have been telling other MPs and other political parties that you&#8217;re  the moral compass of parliament, yet you’ve been ripping the taxpayer  off.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> But the fact is that we  made a mistake, we&#8217;ve fixed the mistake, and we&#8217;ve refunded the money, we made a  mistake, we fixed the mistake and we refunded it, in 12 years that’s not too  bad.  The public has known about our super trust for all of that time and we&#8217;ve  made information about it public, and so we&#8217;re quite happy to be open about the  process that we&#8217;ve done, which is we make a mistake, we fixed the mistake, and  we&#8217;ve refunded the money.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The Greens have been open (and kudos for that) about the existence of the fund, but have never detailed publicly exactly how much money they make from its own MPs living in the property they own.</p>
<p>You see the issue is not just the over-charging of rent. It comes back to them using the super fund as a way to maximise the amount they can claim. Let me demonstrate.</p>
<p>The Super Fund gets $24,000 a year rent (that is the maximum) plus the Fund gets $26,200 as the taxpayer contribution to the super, and $10,480 as the MP contribution. That means they have a total of $60,680. It was somewhat less in 2001when the property was purchased, but the comparison is still valid. I understand the cost was around $300,000.</p>
<p>Not over the last eight years the average interest rate has been 8.5%. This means that in the first year there would be $25,500 of interest on the property and $60,680 of repayments (if all goes into the mortgage) which reduce the principal by $35,000 or so.</p>
<p>This results in the mortgage being paid off after around seven years, so the MP gets left with a mortgage free property (now worth $500,000) and ongoing rental income of $24,000 a year.</p>
<p>If the Greens had not vested the property in their super fund, but registered it under their own MPs names, they could only claim interest on the mortgage.</p>
<p>Now in the first year this is $25,500 so they would claim the same &#8211; $24,000 maximum. But in the second year the interest would be just $22,500 and then $19,300 and this is all they would have been able to claim as rent.</p>
<p>Over the eight years they have owned the property they would have only been able to claim rent of $116,000 instead of $192,000.</p>
<p>They have a second property they currently rent to themselves, so that is the potential advantage per property above.</p>
<p>So there are really three issues here:</p>
<ol>
<li>The fact the Greens were charging almost $1,000 a week for a property whose market rental value was $540 or so a week (and we do not yet know how this happened, and who blew the whistle)</li>
<li>The secret repayments, despite claiming they were setting the model for transparency</li>
<li>The appropriateness of using the super fund to maximise the amount that can be claimed from the taxpayer</li>
</ol>
<p>Again I don&#8217;t think any MP should have an interest in a home they rent out to themselves. Either just pay them all flat allowances (as Ministers will soon get) or require them to have no direct or indirect interest in the property.</p>

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		<title>Turei on Trade</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Green co-leader was on Q+A this morning, and it was a pretty lamentable performance. While there were a couple of tough topics, she just didn&#8217;t cope with the scrutiny, and appeared very flustered and evasive. I backed Turei as their best choice for co-leader (not that I get a vote!) as she has generally been [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green co-leader was on Q+A this morning, and it was a pretty lamentable performance. While there were a couple of tough topics, she just didn&#8217;t cope with the scrutiny, and appeared very flustered and evasive.</p>
<p>I backed Turei as their best choice for co-leader (not that I get a vote!) as she has generally been a strong MP. But today showed up the gap between her and someone like Fitzsimons, who would have handled things much more calmly.</p>
<p>Of course part of the problem was that on the trade issue, Turei had a nonsensical position to defend. Every country on earth supports the move to freer trade, apart from pretty much just North Korea. The Green view on trade is very much a fringe view, and it got exposed today.</p>
<p>From the transcript (not yet online:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Okay let&#8217;s look at an  economic idea that you are opposed to, and that is free trade largely.   In your  maiden speech in 2002 you said that, and I quote you, &#8216;the acceptance of free  trade agreements threatens our economy, our environment, our people and our  sovereignty.&#8217;  Do you not believe in any free trade agreements at  all?</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> Well our position is that  you need to have systems of fair trade, that make sure that New Zealand can  retain its economic sovereignty, and free trade deals tend to undermine the  economic sovereignty.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> All the free trade deals,  I mean the free trade deal that we have with Australia for example that we&#8217;ve had  for 20 years, has that undermined our sovereignty?</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> It prevents  New Zealand from being able  to make the economic decisions around our manufacturing, around job retention,  all of those issues that are best for New  Zealand, and we want New  Zealand to be a prosperous and sustainable  economy, that means we have to move &#8230; we need to be able to make those  decisions for ourselves.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Does that mean all free  trade agreements, for example the CER agreement that we&#8217;ve had with Australia since 1982, does that cover  that?</em></p>
<p><em><strong>METIRIA</strong> Look the key issue for  us&#8230;</em></p>
<p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> No, can I get a straight  answer for our viewers on this question please, because it&#8217;s all very well to  give a speech about free trade.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yet she still could not state whether or not the Green Party thought CER was a good or a bad thing.</p>
<p>I wonder why the Greens are so inconsistent on the issues of national sovereignty. They correctly point out climate change affects everyone regardless of national borders. They support surrendering sovereignty to the UN on every treaty there is. Yet on economic issues, they cite national sovereignty as a reason to prevent people freely trading with each other.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Okay with respect, let&#8217;s  look at one of those countries, China.  Now on Thursday it was the  first anniversary of our Free Trade Agreement with China, our  exports have climbed 61% over that year to 3.3 billion.  I mean wouldn’t we all  be the poorer if we&#8217;d listened to you and not gone ahead with that  agreement?</em></p>
<p><em> <strong>METIRIA</strong> Oh look Guyon, I mean you  can make that kind of accusation and I think it&#8217;s just silly, the truth is that  so much of New Zealand&#8217;s economy at the moment is under serious threat if  you  like from the fact that we&#8217;re having to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars  every week actually in order to just pay the interest on our current borrowing.   We&#8217;re having a housing bubble at the moment which is going to also impact  seriously on our economy and there are other kinds of tools that we can use to  deal with economic issues that are affecting New Zealand, like increasing the  ability for banks for example to lend &#8230;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The stupidity of Metiria&#8217;s response is the China FTA means we are borrowing less. Exports rose 60% in the middle of a recession!! That is a huge sucess. She just had no answer at all to this.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>GUYON</strong> Can we return to this  agreement though because there are some real Green issues here in this China  Free Trade Agreement and I want to talk to you about one of them, because the  New Zealand Trade and Enterprise says areas like the health supplements in  Manuka Honey are a great area for expansion of our exports, and in fact your own  Super Fund has quite a large shareholding on Konvita New Zealand which has 18  branded stores in China and is actually doing very very well out of this China  Free Trade Agreement, would you deny them that opportunity, because you opposed  that agreement.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>You have to love the irony. Their super fund is personally profiting from the China FTA that they battled against.</p>

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		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just going to respond to press releases from Labour and the Greens on electoral finance reform. Now to some degree it is no surprise they disagree with some of the details in the proposal document. But it is useful to put their comments into context and recent history. First Labour&#8217;s David Parker: The Government is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just going to respond to press releases from Labour and the Greens on electoral finance reform. Now to some degree it is no surprise they disagree with some of the details in the proposal document. But it is useful to put their comments into context and recent history.</p>
<p>First <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0909/S00415.htm">Labour&#8217;s David Parker</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Government is happy to consult on aspects of electoral law reform that suits it, and won’t look at changes to the donations regime that might disadvantage National, says Labour Electoral Reform Spokesperson David Parker.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>First of all I must point out the Government in which Mr Parker served did no consultation on electoral law reform prior to introducing legislation. Yep, zero zip.</p>
<p>Mr Power has consulted all parties over the issues paper, consulted the public on the issues paper and is now giving both parties and the public an opportunity to give feedback on the proposal paper.</p>
<p>So the hypocrisy from Mr Parker is immense. It is also wrong.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The </em><em>Electoral Finance Reform Proposal</em> issued by Justice Minister Simon Power today shows he is determined to retain the regime governing donations to constituency candidates and political parties even though it became clear at the last election that the rules do not achieve transparency, David Parker said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mr Parker does not seem to know what a multi-stage consultation process is. That is because Labour never did them.</p>
<p>The first stage was the issues paper where people could havetheir say on issues, without any idea of the Government&#8217;s thinking.</p>
<p>The second stage is the proposal paper, where the Government says this is what we think should happen, but we want your feedback. In some cases they identify options.</p>
<p>The Government has said it proposes no change to the donations law, and the public and parties can give feedback on that before they make a final decision. That is consultation &#8211; again Mr Parker may be unfamiliar with the concept.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“Unfortunately, the current regime on donations doesn’t promote transparency. Labour included the regime in good faith in the Electoral Finance Act 2007, but it failed to achieve its purpose.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is worth stressing. The regime Mr Parker is so bitterly complaining about is one his party passed into law less than two years ago.  Now how about the claim it has failed to get transparency:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“This was shown by the low rates of disclosure by both major parties. National disclosed the source of just $130,000 in donations and Labour just $420,000, though both spent more than $2 million each. This is clearly not transparent.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Mr Parker is having 2+2=5. He is like the cop who demands tougher powers to search premises, and upon not finding any drugs there, cites it as proof they must be elsewhere and wants even greater powers.</p>
<p>The intent of the donations disclosure regime is to identify the source of any donations that could be large enough to be though to purchase influence. Personally I reckon you need $50,000 before you start to get inflluence but the the law for the last 15 years or so has been set at the lower limit of $10,000. I&#8217;ve yet to hear a convincing argument to break the privacy of supporters who gives say $1,000 considering that represents 0.02% of a party&#8217;s election spending. Even $10,000 is (for a major party) only 0.2% of a party&#8217;s election spending.</p>
<p>Even putting aside that argument, how about the complaint that very few donations were declared in 2008. Well there is a very obvious reasons for that. Many donations normally made in election year, were made in 2007 before the increased transparency (which I supported) requirements came in.</p>
<p>In other words if Mr Parker is patient enough to wait until the next election, he may find a higher level of donations disclosed.</p>
<p>Incidentially I do favour some tightening of the limits. I advocated getting rid of the provision for parties to received up to $240,000  in anonymous donations through the Electoral Commission. Mr Parker does not support getting rid of that, I believe.</p>
<p>I also think a disclosure level over a three year term, not just annually, should also be introduced. But that is a debate for another day.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>David Parker said Labour strongly believed there should be public comment on potential improvements to the existing disclosure regime.</em></p>
<p><em>“But while the proposal paper seeks submissions on other issues, National has clearly already made up its mind on the donations regime because it suits their purposes.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>There are a number of areas where I intend to submit against the Government&#8217;s proposed option. That is the whole pointof seeking feedback on a proposal paper.</p>
<p>Finally I must point out how Labour responded when there was real proof of inappropriate donations. The Serious Fraud Office revealed that the Foreign and Racing Minister in the Labour-led Government had received tens of thousands of dollars in personal donations (to pay his court costs) from a source in the racing industry which had greatly benefited by the Minister&#8217;s advocacy of extra funding for the industry.</p>
<p>What did Labour do when the SFO revealed this? They complained bitterly about the actions of the SFO. ANd what did then PM Clark say in response to questions in the house? She said she had not had the time to read the report.</p>
<p>So in case anyone thinks there is anything remotely sincere about Labour&#8217;s position, think again.</p>
<p>Then we have <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0909/S00417.htm">Metiria Turei</a>:</p>
<p>Metiria of course voted for the EFA and voted against abolishing it. The Greens never used their power to force Labour to consult on the EFB before it was introduced. Their credibility on these issues is much dented after that.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“It is vital that New Zealand’s democracy cannot be bought by big business.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Funnily enough if you look at the spending at the last election campaign, there was masses of spending by lots of unions but no spending from any businesses or business groups. The only purchasing of democracy has been from the left.</p>
<p>But the whole notion of &#8220;purchasing&#8221; democracy is bumper slogan politics, rather than rational analysis. The relationship between the amount a party spends and the vote they get is pretty weak. As an example Labour spent more than National last election and got whacked. ACT spent more than the Greens and got under half the vote.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“One of our key concerns is that National&#8217;s proposals will not stop political parties secretly giving money to third parties to run campaigns,” said Mrs Turei.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now we get the paranoia. First they worry about third parties donating to political parties, but now they are worried about political parties having so much money they will give it away to third parties to spend.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve yet to meet a political party that gives away its money. Do the Greens have any examples of when this has happened?</p>
<p>If a third party runs expensive ads in a campaign, I am sure the media will ask who is behind that third party, and where did the money come from. And if the third party refuses to say, well the public are pretty good with this stuff, and will tend to punish those involved.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In the 2005 election, the Exclusive Brethren ran a secret $1 million dollar campaign against the Green Party.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>From their own money. Or is Metiria saying she thinks National were secretly funding the Exclusive Brethren?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“Another problem is that donations to political parties under $10,000 can be kept secret &#8211; the public has a right to know who is giving their MPs money.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but at what level. As I said $10,000 is 0.2% of an election campaign for a major party and maybe 0.5% for a minor party. Are the Greens saying you can get &#8220;favours&#8221; for such a small amount?</p>
<p>The Greens of course have an agenda. They find raising money a hassle, as do all parties. They think taxpayers should be forced to fund their political party. And the best way of doing that is setting the disclosure threshold for donations so low, that fewer people donate voluntarily so they can force everyone to donate to them compulsorily through their taxes.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“We are also concerned about the proposal to allow anyone to run electoral ads on TV and radio, as this would lead to the airways being saturated in electoral ads paid for by wealthy special interest groups,” said Mrs Turei.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Consider what they are really saying here. They are saying that in an election campaign, they do not want anyone who wants to criticise a party, to be able to do so through a broadcast medium. They are saying that only political parties should be able to have their voices heard on broadcast medium. Even worse they are saying that only political parties funded by the taxpayer can have their voice heard, while individuals or organisation who want to use their own funds, are banned from the airwaves.</p>
<p>Such defenders of free speech.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“We don’t want to end up like the US where negative campaign ads paid for by big business dominate the airways.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Ironically almost everything the Greens propose takes us closer to the US system of political finance. It is the limit on donations to parties and candidates that has shifted the spending to the lobby groups.</p>
<p>Oh and their constant bogeyman of big business is tiresome. Again in NZ there were no business funded election ads, but plenty of union ones. And in the US last election the left massively outspent the right.</p>
<p>Again it would be nice to see some sensible analysis rather than slogans.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Government’s proposals do not include the option of a fixed election date.</em></p>
<p><em>A fixed date would provide certainty for the public and political parties, said Mrs Turei, there is no good reason not to have one. The only reason not to fix the election date was to give an advantage to the Government of the day.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now I agree with Metiria that there should be a fixed election date. But to be fair to the Govt, this is a consultation on finance issues, not wider electoral issues. A change to a fixed election date is a fairly major constitutional issue. It is one I support but probably needs its own workstream.</p>

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		<title>Herald on Bradford</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NZ Herald editorial: Green MP Sue Bradford&#8217;s sudden retirement from Parliament yesterday reflects little credit on her party. With typical candour she declares her decision was prompted by the party&#8217;s co-leadership election a few months ago, which she lost to a young Maori, Metiria Turei. Normally this would sound like sour grapes but whatever [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10599648">NZ Herald editorial</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Green MP Sue Bradford&#8217;s sudden retirement from Parliament yesterday reflects little credit on her party. With typical candour she declares her decision was prompted by the party&#8217;s co-leadership election a few months ago, which she lost to a young Maori, Metiria Turei.</em></p>
<p><em>Normally this would sound like sour grapes but whatever one thinks of Ms Bradford&#8217;s politics, she does not seem to suffer from wounded pride or excessive self-importance. She is remembered for the indignities she was willing to suffer in the years before entering Parliament when she was pictured in every small protest sit-in, usually being carried away by the police.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is true, but I still regard it as a bad look for an MP to bail out of Parliament just a few months after they got elected.</p>
<p>Being elected to Parliament is a huge privilege, and MPs are elected for a three year term. It is one of the downsides of MMP that List MPs especially are being shuffled into and out of Parliament outside the electoral cycle.</p>
<p>I think no MP should bail out of Parliament early, unless it is for ill health, or to take up an appointment.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>When Jeanette Fitzsimons relinquished the female co-leadership this year Ms Bradford was clearly the strongest candidate to replace her, and she knew it. Ms Turei was barely known outside the party and Sue Kedgley, another previous campaigner who has found her feet in Parliament, seemed not to be interested.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I agree. First of all Turei was deemed the favourite to win at a very early stage. Secondly the skills at being a good legislator (which Bradford was) are not necessarily the skills of leadership. Leadership is about taking people with you &#8211; and I think Bradford has never shown much in the way of skills there.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>So why did Ms Bradford miss out? It is reasonable to conclude the Greens wanted a different face. They are a party sensitive to demographic character, as evidenced by co-leadership from different genders. Ms Turei offered youth and ethnic diversity. In the four months since her election she has not shown much else.</em></p>
<p><em>A party that puts appearances before substance is making difficulties for itself.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The Herald overlooks another issue &#8211; maybe the biggest issue. Bradford has rarely been involved with environmental issues. Her causes are social justice. In fact some in the Greens had grumbled her fights for so called social justice diminished the Greens branding as an environmental party.</p>
<p>Russel Norman (who like Bradford used to be a communist &#8211; Marxist not Maoist though) also has a background more on the social justice side, than the environmental side. Since becoming co-leader his focus has changed &#8211; but nevertheless I think a combination of Norman and Bradford would have weakened the Greens brand as an environmental party &#8211; and I suspect this was a factor in Turei&#8217;s victory.</p>

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		<title>Even stupid questions should be answered</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Gerry Brownlee]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Lockwood Smith]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Armstrong reports: Opposition MPs were aghast and Government members agog in Parliament yesterday after Energy Minister Gerry Brownlee broke with convention and refused to respond to a question from Greens co-leader Metiria Turei. Brownlee had simply had enough. He had already answered five questions from Turei on National&#8217;s intended &#8220;stocktake&#8221; of mineral resources on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10597845">Armstrong reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Opposition MPs were aghast and Government members agog in Parliament yesterday after Energy Minister Gerry Brownlee broke with convention and refused to respond to a question from Greens co-leader Metiria Turei.</em></p>
<p><em>Brownlee had simply had enough. He had already answered five questions from Turei on National&#8217;s intended &#8220;stocktake&#8221; of mineral resources on Conservation land. He had repeatedly told her the Government had no intention of plundering or pillaging national parks or other valued parts of the Department of Conservation estate.</em></p>
<p><em>But Turei&#8217;s questions &#8211; which might more accurately be described as political statements masquerading as questions &#8211; just kept on coming.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So what was <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Business/QOA/0/4/e/49HansQ_20090916_00000001-1-Mining-Minerals-Stocktake-in-Conservation.htm">the actual question</a> Gerry refused to answer:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Metiria Turei</strong>: When the Minister said in his speech that “… New Zealanders need to know that this country is also well endowed with natural resources.”, is it not the case that Kiwis already know how blessed we are, already know that our magnificent conservation places are like gold to the New Zealand economy, and are aghast at his attempts to plunder those areas for fool’s gold and dirty coal?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>As Armstrong said, it is a political statement more than a question. But so are many questions. Brownlee explained later:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Hon GERRY BROWNLEE</strong>: In answering questions this afternoon I have made it clear that the Government has no intention of mining high-value conservation land. From the member’s question, she does not seem to want to accept the answers given. It is no wonder that she gets no answers to her questions.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>However I think it is a bad look not to answer, even the most stupid loaded questions. If the Greens want to waste all their supplementaries getting more and more hysterical over a stocktake of minerals, then let them and swat their questions back at them, rather than refuse to answer them.</p>
<p>There is a precedent it seems though:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>However, Parker was trumped by United Future&#8217;s Peter Dunne, who had found another ruling which stated a minister was not even obliged to seek the call when asked a question.</em></p>
<p><em>In Dunne&#8217;s view, such a practice was unusual, and even undesirable. But there was a clear precedent for Brownlee&#8217;s refusal.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And words of wisdom from the Speaker:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Saying he was not about to turn these past rulings on their heads, the Speaker still had something to say about Turei and Brownlee.</em></p>
<p><em>The former would be &#8220;well advised&#8221; to reflect on the wording of her questions. She promptly ignored him and asked another highly loaded question which went down the same track as its predecessors</em></p>
<p><em>As for Brownlee, the public would make its judgment. &#8220;Ministers would be very unwise to refuse to answer them, because in the court of public opinion a minister would be condemned for refusing to do so,&#8221; Smith said.</em></p>
<p><em>In other words, Brownlee should not make a habit of it.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed.</p>

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		<title>Peter Gibbons researches politics on Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gibbons</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if everything you knew about politics came from the internet?  What if people based their vote on which politician was the most popular on Facebook or Bebo?  It’s unlikely and a bit of a nightmare scenario really but on-line sources of information are becoming increasingly important for voters.  To test my vague theory in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if everything you knew about politics came from the internet?  What if people based their vote on which politician was the most popular on Facebook or Bebo?  It’s unlikely and a bit of a nightmare scenario really but on-line sources of information are becoming increasingly important for voters. </p>
<p>To test my vague theory in New Zealand politics, I searched on Facebook for each party leader and examined the groups supporting and, in some cases opposing, them.  Here are the results:</p>
<p><strong>John Key</strong> (National) – 14,388 supporters.  Interestingly the “I HEART John Key” and “Scientologists for John Key” groups have exactly the same number of members.  I’m presuming they are the same people.</p>
<p><strong>Helen Clark</strong> (United Nations) – 5, 408 supporters.</p>
<p><strong>Phil Goff</strong> (Labour) – 1,112 members of a group wanting him to be Prime Minister in 2011 and 3 in a quite different group who think he is a DILF.  Look up what it means at your peril.</p>
<p><strong>Rodney Hide</strong> (Act) – 719 supporters.</p>
<p><strong>Russel Norman</strong> (Green) – 567 supporters.  His on-line presence grew significantly when I spelled his first name correctly in the search field.</p>
<p><strong>Metiria Turei</strong> (Green) – 339 supporters.</p>
<p><strong>Winston Peters</strong> (Retired) – 236 supporters for Prime Minister, 11 supporters for next year’s Dancing with the Stars.  Both quite terrifying prospects really.</p>
<p><strong>Jim Anderton</strong> (Progressive) – 17 supporters, much higher than expected.</p>
<p><strong>Pita Sharples</strong> (Maori Party) – No Facebook groups supporting him but a couple which are worryingly opposed (and in apparent breach of Facebook policies).</p>
<p><strong>Tariana Turia</strong> (Maori Party) – No Facebook groups supporting or opposing her.  There is one offering to be a support group for Mrs Turia going back to school but the tag is “just for fun &#8211; outlandish statements.”</p>
<p><strong>Peter Dunne</strong> (United Future) – Mr Dunne does not have an official supporters group.  The group “I lost my phone drinking in London – numbers please!!! (Peter Dunne)” is almost certainly not him.  Peter Dunne does not strike me as the kind of man who, under any circumstances, would use three exclamation points.</p>

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		<title>Turei wins co-leader election</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/turei_wins_co-leader_election.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As widely expected, Metiria Turei has been elected co-leader of the Greens. The new team of Norman and Turei will certainly be younger then the previous leadership. Neither of them have much of an environmental background, but neither did Bradford. I doubt this will affect their poll ratings much. The Greens are one of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As widely expected, Metiria Turei has been elected co-leader of the Greens.</p>
<p>The new team of Norman and Turei will certainly be younger then the previous leadership. Neither of them have much of an environmental background, but neither did Bradford.</p>
<p>I doubt this will affect their poll ratings much. The Greens are one of the few parties where the party&#8217;s brand is far more dominant than the leader&#8217;s brand. Having said that Fitzsimons and Donald both exuded a certain warmth that their sucessors have yet to demonstrate in public.</p>

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		<title>Greens propose race based justice system</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Greens are proposing a race based justice system, as their solution to crime. “Because Maori are more likely to be stopped and searched, arrested rather than cautioned, and receive higher sentences than Pakeha offenders, Maori crime and imprisonment rates are elevated,” Mrs Turei said today. This is a cunning plan. They will cut the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/node/20880">Greens are proposing</a> a race based justice system, as their solution to crime.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“Because Maori are more likely to be stopped and searched, arrested rather than cautioned, and receive higher sentences than Pakeha offenders, Maori crime and imprisonment rates are elevated,” Mrs Turei said today. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is a cunning plan. They will cut the crime rate in half overnight by stopping Police from being able to search, arrest or imprison criminals who happen to be Maori.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“The establishment of a Maori justice system that runs alongside the existing legal system – using the education system as a model – will help to eliminate the impact of this systemic racial profiling, reduce the unjust imprisonment of many Maori and stem Maori reoffending.”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Why have a seperate justice system for Maori only? How about Asians? How about South Africans? Also can people choose which justice system they go on? If you are part Asian and part Maori, can you use just one system, or pick and mix the parts that most suit you as a criminal. I think giving choice of justice systems to criminals is very important.</p>

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