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		<title>The Arab League</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/01/the_arab_league.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Arab League]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Middle East]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Syria]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Reuters reports at Stuff: Syria has rebuffed an Arab League call for President Bashar al-Assad step down in favour of a unity government as interference in its affairs, underlining its determination to defeat a 10-month-old uprising seeking Assad&#8217;s overthrow. It was not immediately clear whether Syria would accept the League&#8217;s decision to keep Arab observers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuters reports <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/6302365/Syria-rejects-Arab-conspiracy-to-oust-Assad">at Stuff</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Syria has rebuffed an Arab League call for President Bashar al-Assad step down in favour of a unity government as interference in its affairs, underlining its determination to defeat a 10-month-old uprising seeking Assad&#8217;s overthrow.</em></p>
<p><em>It was not immediately clear whether Syria would accept the League&#8217;s decision to keep Arab observers in the country for another month despite their failure to stem bloodshed in which hundreds of people have died since they deployed on December 26.</em></p>
<p><em>But any credibility the mission might retain was undermined when Saudi Arabia, a foe of Syria&#8217;s closest ally Iran, announced it would withdraw its own monitors because of the Syrian authorities&#8217; failure to cooperate with its mandate. It was unclear if other Gulf states would follow suit. &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>Rami Khouri, a Beirut-based commentator, said the unusually bold Arab plan announced at the Arab League&#8217;s Cairo headquarters on Sunday was clearly &#8220;bad news&#8221; for Assad.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;The fact that Arab countries would propose such a clear intervention and essentially order him to step aside and give him a mechanism to do so is quite a dramatic sign of how much credibility and legitimacy he has lost in the region,&#8221; he said.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see the Arab League putting the pressure on Syria to stop killing its people, and to have elections. It makes it much harder for the regime to say the opposition is a tool of the United States etc.</p>
<p>However it is ironic that you have a league made up of so many countries that themselves do not have democratic elections, pushing for elections in Syria. I guess the difference is their monarchies are  relatively benign, and are not killing their citizens. However even the House of Saud may feel the winds of change one day.</p>

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		<title>Hypocrisy alert</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/03/hypocrisy_alert-4.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bahrain]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Iran]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Middle East]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Reuters reports: Bahrain has declared a state of emergency following weeks of unrest on the island kingdom, state television announced on Tuesday, saying the measure would come into force immediately and last three months. An order by the king &#8220;authorised the commander of Bahrain&#8217;s defence forces to take all necessary measures to protect the safety [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuters reports:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Bahrain has declared a state of emergency following weeks of unrest on the island kingdom, state television announced on Tuesday, saying the measure would come into force immediately and last three months.</em></p>
<p><em>An order by the king &#8220;authorised the commander of Bahrain&#8217;s defence forces to take all necessary measures to protect the safety of the country and its citizens,&#8221; said a statement read out on television.</em></p>
<p><em>Meanwhile, <strong>Iran called the arrival of Saudi troops in Bahrain unacceptable and urged the kingdom to respond to pro-democracy demonstrators peacefully</strong>.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>For fuck&#8217;s sake &#8211; I don&#8217;t know whether to cry or laugh.</p>

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		<title>Libya</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/03/libya.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Libya]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Middle East]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Most analysts think Gaddafi has lost control of so much of Libya, that his downfall or demise is just a matter of time. I hope so. The death toll is in the thousands, and those lives could have been saved if Gaddafi had done a Muburak. Of course the difference may just be that the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most analysts think Gaddafi has lost control of so much of Libya, that his downfall or demise is just a matter of time. I hope so.</p>
<p>The death toll is in the thousands, and those lives could have been saved if Gaddafi had done a Muburak. Of course the difference may just be that the Egyptian Army was less willing to kill it own citizens. To be fair most of the Libyan Army has been reluctant also.</p>
<p>A part of me sees some good from his decision to try and supress the pro-democracy movement by arms. Because it looks like he will fail, and will depart office (or life) reviled internationally.</p>
<p>This may prove a useful lesson to other dictatorships in the Middle East, and encourage them to peacefully engage with pro-democracy movements &#8211; not try and crush them.</p>

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		<title>Which country will be next to go?</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/02/which_country_will_be_next_to_go.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Middle East]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Will it be Bahrain or Libya? Tags: Middle East]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will it be Bahrain or Libya?</p>

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		<title>The importance of moderates</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/10/the_importance_of_moderates.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 03:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Middle East]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Reuters reports: Jewish settlers on Tuesday gave new copies of the Koran to Palestinians in a West Bank village whose mosque was burnt in an attack blamed by Palestinians on militants in the settler movement. Several copies of Islam&#8217;s holy book were scorched in the arson attack and threats in Hebrew were scrawled on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuters <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/4202719/Jewish-settlers-replace-Korans-burnt-in-West-Bank">reports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Jewish settlers on Tuesday gave new copies of the Koran to  Palestinians in a West Bank village whose mosque was burnt in an attack  blamed by Palestinians on militants in the settler movement.</em></p>
<p><em>Several copies of Islam&#8217;s holy book were scorched in the arson  attack and threats in Hebrew were scrawled on the wall of the mosque of  Beit Fajjar early on Monday.</em></p>
<p><em>The village sits on the edge of the sprawling Jewish settlement bloc of Gush Etzion.</em></p>
<p><em>Suspicion immediately fell on settler militants opposed to a peace  deal between Israel and the Palestinians, in which some settlements  would be turned over to a Palestinian state.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;This visit is to say that although there are people who oppose  peace, he who opposes peace is opposed to God,&#8221; said Rabbi Menachem  Froman, a well-known peace activist and one of a handful of settlers who  went to Beit Fajjar to show solidarity with their Muslim neighbours.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is a nice story, and something it would be good to see more of. All religions have extremists (some have more than others), but they also have moderates. And when extremists do something in the name of your religion, it helps if others in that religion decry them, or as in this case show in a practical sense your disgust.</p>

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		<title>Lunch with Daniel Pipes</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/08/lunch_with_daniel_pipes.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[International Politics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Daniel Pipes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Islam]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Israel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Middle East]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Just returned from the Wellington Club where myself and around eight journalists had lunch with Daniel Pipes, who has authored more than a dozen books on the Middle East or Islam. The Israeli Ambassador kindly hosted the lunch. Daniel spoke on five broad topics, and we had a lively Q+A. I&#8217;ll go through them, off [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just returned from the Wellington Club where myself and around eight journalists had lunch with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes">Daniel Pipes</a>, who has authored more than a dozen books on the Middle East or Islam. The Israeli Ambassador kindly hosted the lunch.</p>
<p>Daniel spoke on five broad topics, and we had a lively Q+A. I&#8217;ll go through them, off memory.</p>
<p><strong>Iraq &amp; Afghanistan</strong></p>
<p>Pipes was very pessimistic for both countries, and said that the aim of transforming the countries into modern democratic states has and will fail. Worse, he believes they won&#8217;t even achieve the status of &#8220;a decent place to live&#8221;.</p>
<p>What makes his view of significance, if he was a supporter of the invasions of both countries. So he is saying, that the US has failed and will fail.</p>
<p>I asked whether the US were too ambitious trying to turn Iraq into a post-war Germany or Japan, and whether they would have been better to basically shoot Saddam, and the next ten in the line of succession, tell No 11 that he is now in charge, that he should leave the Kurds alone, and bring in some elections and basically pull out, leaving the infrastructure, the Baath party, the army etc intact.</p>
<p>Pipes basically agreed, and said that has been his long held position &#8211; that the US should have found a strongman, who was more palatable than Saddam, and left him in charge. It would not have achieved a secular liberal democracy, but it might achieve the country becoming a semi-decent place to live.</p>
<p><strong>US Policy</strong></p>
<p>Pipes made a strong case that in terms of foreign policy, there is very little difference between Bush and Obama. Obama at one stage had more troops in Iraq and Afghanistan than under Bush. Also Obama has approved 50 attacks from unmanned drones, compared to 38 under the entire Bush presidency.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s outreach to Islamic states, with his Cairo speech did result in a more favourable impression of the US at the time. But a year later, the views of the US in the Islamic world have shrunk back to what they were under Bush.</p>
<p><strong>Iran</strong></p>
<p>Pipes thinks there is no doubt Iran is developing nuclear weapon &#8211; and that in fact it is a logical thing for Iran to do, as it makes you a military power, but in a far cheaper fashion than an increase in conventional forces.</p>
<p>He decried both the Bush and Obama strategy on Iran on the basis he has yet to work out what either of them is.</p>
<p>Pipes believes the threat of a nuclear armed Iran, under its current leadership, is so dangerous, that a military strike will be necessary.</p>
<p>I actually pushed back against this, on the basis that most Iranians want to get rid of their President, and an attack on their nuclear facilities is the one thing which will make his popularity soar, and guarantee the hardliners keep control for at least a generation.</p>
<p>Pipes said that he does think that Iran is the one country where the Islamic leadership is under real threat, and if left alone they are likely to be removed from power in the future. However he still regards the danger in the interim of an Islamic Iran with nuclear weapons to be so great, that he still thinks a strike is needed &#8211; but accepts the consequences will be a massive increase in terrorism etc.</p>
<p><strong>Israel &amp; Palestine</strong></p>
<p>Pipes is a pessimist on a diplomatic solution. He asserts that you only have diplomatic solutions after the war is over, not as a way to stop a war. Until one side &#8220;wins&#8221; diplomacy will not work.</p>
<p>His preferred course of action is to try and increase the proportion of Palestinians who accept Israel has a right to exist from 20% to over 50%. He says only when a majority of Palestinians accept they will not succeed with their desire to destroy Israel, will a diplomatic solution have any chance of working.</p>
<p><strong>Islam and Europe</strong></p>
<p>Pipes says the growing Islamic population in Europe is partly due to the indigenous populations not producing enough children to maintain population, and partly the desire of people in Islamic countries to move to places with a better standard of living.</p>
<p>He says that there are three possible paths ahead:</p>
<ol>
<li>Europe muddles through with peaceful co-existence. He says that he sees no evidence at all that this is the likely scenario.</li>
<li>Over time Europe becomes more &#8220;Islamised&#8221; with Islam as the dominant religion in Europe, and wide-spread sharia law &#8211; even some Islamic states in Europe.</li>
<li>A massive back-lash from the indigenous Europeans, with neo-fascist and even fascist parties gaining support across the Europe.</li>
</ol>
<p>A vigorous discussion on this topic. Canada was held up as one of the few Western countries which has managed Muslim immigration, which has not been radical Islamists. I suggested that NZ has also been successful at having Muslim immigrants, with almost no radicalisation here.</p>
<p>Pipes suggestion for keeping it that way, is that one should not discriminate against Muslims who wish to migrate here, but that one should absolutely discriminate against <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamists">Islamists</a>.</p>
<p>He said many people do not get the difference between Islam/Muslims and Islamism/Islamists. He says Islam is a religion like Judaism, Christianity etc. Islamism is a political belief like communism, zionism, fascism.</p>
<p>Was a very interesting 90 minute lunch and discussion, even if somewhat depressing in terms of the outlook for key conflicts, and for Europe. Barry Soper commented that it made him glad to live in New Zealand &#8211; for which I have to agree.</p>

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		<title>Eve Teasers</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/eve_teasers.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Wanderer</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Justice]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#8217;t let this slip by without mention. Seems like Kuwait has reverted to old school justice, the likes of which haven&#8217;t been seen in Europe since WWII, and in Kuwait since the 1980&#8242;s apparently. Hat tip: Desert Girl Tags: Justice, Kuwait, Middle East, The Wanderer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t let this slip by without mention.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Eve-teasers1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-43594" title="Eve teasers" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Eve-teasers1.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="176" /></a></p>
<p>Seems like Kuwait has reverted to old school justice, the likes of which haven&#8217;t been seen in Europe since WWII, and in Kuwait since the 1980&#8242;s apparently.</p>
<p>Hat tip: <a href="http://desertgirlkuwait.blogspot.com/">Desert Girl</a></p>

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		<title>No virgins for you!</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/04/no_virgins_for_you.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Wanderer</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Fatwa]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Jihad]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#8217;s not the first, but his is perhaps the best &#8211; Foreign Policy&#8217;s article on Tahir ul-Qadri introduces you to the Pakistani Islamic Scholar who has issued a fatwa condemning terrorism as un-Islamic. Not only does he label terrorism as &#8220;haram&#8221;, or forbidden under Islam, he goes so far as to describe acts of terrorism [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not the first, but his is perhaps the best &#8211; <a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/04/14/sheikh_to_terrorists_go_to_hell?page=full">Foreign Policy&#8217;s article</a> on Tahir ul-Qadri introduces you to the Pakistani Islamic Scholar who has issued a fatwa condemning terrorism as un-Islamic. Not only does he label terrorism as &#8220;haram&#8221;, or forbidden under Islam, he goes so far as to describe acts of terrorism as acts of disbelief. To put this in context, for a practising muslim, an act of disbelief is pretty much the worst offence he or she can commit against Islam.</p>

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		<title>Reaction to rape</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/04/reaction_to_rape.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Wanderer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came accross a new website here the other day, called Kuwait Exposed , where people can anonymously post their &#8220;confessions&#8221;. While most of the posts are pretty lame and rather whiny, I was disgusted to read a confession of rape .  I&#8217;m inclined to believe it as genuine following the poster&#8217;s further comment in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came accross a new website here the other day, called <a href="http://kuwaitexposed.wordpress.com/confess-disclose-expose-here/">Kuwait Exposed </a>, where people can anonymously post their &#8220;confessions&#8221;. While most of the posts are pretty lame and rather whiny, I was disgusted to read a <a href="http://kuwaitexposed.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/confession-32-an-awful-regret/">confession of rape </a>.  I&#8217;m inclined to believe it as genuine following the poster&#8217;s further comment in response to some of the other comments (where he was stupid enough to use his own name &#8211; not that that&#8217;ll assist in any legal action, which is highly unlikely to eventuate in any case).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s surprisingly easy enough to live in a place like this and let the dichotomy of an expat vs Kuwaiti view on the world pass you by, and many people do, despite experiencing the differences on a daily basis.</p>
<p>What struck me most about this &#8220;confession&#8221; was the reaction in the comments. This creature says he loves this poor girl, whom he has raped.  He seems to realise on some level that what he has done is wrong, but he still sees her as the future wife and mother of his children.</p>
<p>And many of the commenters seem to as well! For example:</p>
<p>&#8221; Telling ur mother idf the best thing to do even taking her with u wen u are going to Apologize, the virginity thing could be fixed only if she have an adult helping her. Then if u truly wanna show her that u love her ask ur mam to call hers and engage her to u !&#8221; [sic]</p>
<p>&#8220;If you really love her and want to make it up, there is a way you could do it. if I were in your place, I would go and ask for her hand in marriage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some don&#8217;t even see a need to confess: &#8220;what’s left is between you and God&#8221;</p>
<p>The comments about the need/ability to &#8220;fix&#8221; a loss of virginity have got to stop you in your tracks also.</p>
<p>Compare that to comments from those with Western names.</p>

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		<title>The Journey Home</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got to Tel Aviv at 11 pm Saturday night and crashed briefly at a place provided by Yani. Then had to taxi to airport at 3 am. The taxi did not turn up though, so Ebba and I ended up dragging out suitcases down the road onto the main street, where we managed to hail [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to Tel Aviv at 11 pm Saturday night and crashed briefly at a place provided by Yani. Then had to taxi to airport at 3 am. The taxi did not turn up though, so Ebba and I ended up dragging out suitcases down the road onto the main street, where we managed to hail one.</p>
<p>At the airport, went through much much tougher security than I have seen anywhere else in the world. In one sense it was very reassuring that they take security so seriously, meaning you have a safe flight. On the other hand it meant I only hit the lounge 15 minutes before I had to go to the gate. The security process was:</p>
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<li>A 5      – 10 minute interrogation by a young female airport official while waiting      in the queue for first x-ray. She asked me detailed questions about why I      went to Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait,      Dubai and Iran. When I said I had a      friend working in Kuwait,      she asked why was she working there and she didn’t even smile at my      response it was because she earns three times what she would in NZ. Also      asked me several times if anyone had given me anything to carry for them,      as it could be a bomb.</li>
<li>Then      went through first x-rays of all luggage.</li>
<li>Then      had a total search of my suitcase (presumably based on my suspicious      itinerary to date) which took ten minutes</li>
<li>Then      passport control. More questions</li>
<li>Then      a x-ray of my hand luggage</li>
<li>Then      a search with a wand of not just me, and the hand luggage, but also my      shoes, my camera, my books etc.</li>
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<p>While all the security was a hassle, it did mean at least I could be confident we would have an incident free flight. And Israel, of all countries, does need to be vigilant. If interested, see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al#El_Al_security">Wikipedia on El Al security</a>.</p>
<p>Was sad to leave Israel, as it was such a fascinating place. There is a wonderful blend of racial backgrounds. Another country I am definitely going to return to. Very grateful to Davidi and Young Likud for their first class hosting, and to my European friends who made the trip so fun.</p>
<p>Flew to London, which took almost six hours. My ticket conditions meant I had to continue around the world, so could not take the much quicker eastern route back.</p>
<p>I had a standby upgrade request for the 11 hour leg from Heathrow to LA, but the flight was full. Annoying that one had to go through security scan, even in transit. The lounge there was quite nice, and got some work done.</p>
<p>Then landed at LA after 11 hour flight. They no longer allow you to access the Koru Club, if you are Star Alliance Gold, due to security restrictions. Very peeved as really wanted a shower. Then a 13 hour flight to Auckland.</p>
<p>Did get an upgrade to Premium Economy, which was my first time trying that section out. Biggest boon for me was a power supply as I worked on laptop entire flight catching up with emails, writing blog posts (including most of this one) etc.</p>
<p>Having the seats recline back more is useful, but also proved a hassle as the person in front put their seat so far back I could not use my laptop in front of me. But by chance luck was with me as I was in a window seat (despite a standing request for aisle seats). In premium economy they had a foot wide ledge (with storage space beneath them) next to the window. Not only is it great for storing papers and books (and even the laptop so I did not have to get it from overhead after takeoff, but it allowed me to use the area as a work station by balancing the laptop on my arm rest and a cushion propped up on my shoes on the ledge – a real no 8 solution <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So my advice for travellers if to go for the window seat if in premium economy (or at least the upstairs section).</p>
<p>Got into Auckland at 7 am Tuesday and stayed overnight.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Franklin.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38798" title="Franklin" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Franklin.JPG" alt="Franklin" width="512" height="384" /></a></p>
<p>Went to the famous switching on of the Franklin Road Xmas lights. 99% of the houses on the 1 km long road put up extensive lights and decorations. It&#8217;s a wonderful community initiative and the entire road was a party zone. They were even giving away free food.</p>
<p>I attended one of the parties, which was great fun. Damien Christie spent the night introducing me as David Farrier from TV3!</p>
<p>Woke up with a hangover around 10.30 am and almost missed my flight to Wellington.  I blame xxxxxxx.</p>
<p>Is good to be home, but have had wonderful month in a region I have long wanted to visit. And I must be one of a very few people who have done Iran and Israel consecutively in the same trip!</p>

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		<title>The Golan Heights</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the sabbath we had brunch in the Hula Valley in the Golan Heights. We had “local” food pretty much every day, and I have to say it was damn nice. It’s a shame to eat your normal diet, when you are in other countries, but often you end up doing so if staying in [...]]]></description>
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<p>On the sabbath we had brunch in the Hula Valley in the Golan  Heights. We had “local” food pretty much every day, and I have to say it was damn nice. It’s a shame to eat your normal diet, when you are in other countries, but often you end up doing so if staying in hotels. Having a local guide really helps.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr7.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr7" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr7.JPG" alt="isr7" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>That sign is not just for show. The Syrians left a huge number of mines behind, and Israel decided it was better to just fence off some areas than try and detect them all (hazardous to the detectors)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr8.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr8" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr8.JPG" alt="isr8" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Sweden doubles its defence force capability <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr9.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr9" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr9.JPG" alt="isr9" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>One mine field has these cacti in them. I mentioned to the group that I would plant a mine at the bottom of the cactus so that if the mine doesn’t get you, then you’ll still be hit by hundreds of pieces of cacti. One of the others said they hoped never to have to go to war against NZ with that mentality!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr10.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr10" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr10.JPG" alt="isr10" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A fairly major strategic battle happened on this hill. 20 Israelis died taking the hill against a mortar and very well defended trenches. They Syrian soldiers were very young and inexperienced and eventually fled a superior position. Our host mentioned that the Syrians were very much innocent victims in a conflict not of their choosing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr11.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr11" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr11.JPG" alt="isr11" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>One of the trenches on the hill</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr12.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr12" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr12.JPG" alt="isr12" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Nearby was Fort  Nimrod. Now this has nothing to do with any modern conflict but was established as a Muslim fort in 1300 AD or so. There are extensive ruins to look at, if you make the drive up to it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr13.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr13" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr13.JPG" alt="isr13" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>More of the fort.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr14.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr14" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr14.JPG" alt="isr14" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Down to the secret tunnel</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr15.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr15" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr15.JPG" alt="isr15" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Used the zoom lens to snap this little creature on a ledge below the fort. It looks like the little critter is about to jump!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr16.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr16" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr16.JPG" alt="isr16" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>We then went to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Bental">Mount Bental</a>. On the path at the top, they have entries from a competition to design children’s toys out of former military weapon. I asked if there was also a competition to design weapons out of children’s toys <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr17.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr17" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr17.JPG" alt="isr17" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>And another</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr18.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr18" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr18.JPG" alt="isr18" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>At the top they have a former bunker a a very nice café. The Hebrew word for in the clouds is Annan and for coffee is Kofi, so the café is called Kofi Annan, a nice play on the former UN Secretary-General.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr20.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr20" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr20.JPG" alt="isr20" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Again this is regarded as a very strategic hill. You can actually see a Syrian city, and Lebanon is not far away. Contrary to what might assume, there is no border fence.</p>
<p>At one stage we we driving next to the Jordan. In fact we got so close my cellphone told me I was now receiving Vodafone Jordan.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr21.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr21" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr21.JPG" alt="isr21" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Going down into the bunker.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr22.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr22" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr22.JPG" alt="isr22" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is at Qatsrin, and is the remains of a very early Jewish synagogue from 2,000 years ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr23.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr23" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr23.JPG" alt="isr23" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>At Janhnun we saw a great audio-visual show on the history of the Golan Heights, beamed onto a replacia model of them. Then afterwards we had a beer tasting of local beers. Yum.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr24.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr24" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr24.JPG" alt="isr24" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A sunset over the Sea of Galilee. Beautiful.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr25.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38742" title="isr25" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr25.JPG" alt="isr25" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Finally we visited Hamat-Gader where we saw some animals, had dinner, and dipped into the local thermal pools. Those leaving later on Sunday stayed the night at the Kefar-Ha Nassi Kibbutz.</p>
<p>We had an interesting debate about whether that fence was high enough to stop a determined crocodile.</p>
<p>We also saw a nine metre python.</p>
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<p>A photo of the pool area. The main pool was hot enough, but the inside pool was an uncomfortable 43 degrees – maximum time recommended 10 minutes.</p>

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		<title>The North of Israel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Friday we went up north. First stop was the Caesarea National Park, which has the ruins of the city set up by King Herod. The park has lots of ruins, and also a good museum explaining the history of the area. A group shot by the harbour. It was constructed to be a major [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Friday we went up north. First stop was the Caesarea National Park, which has the ruins of the city set up by King Herod.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr1.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38724" title="isr1" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr1.JPG" alt="isr1" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>The park has lots of ruins, and also a good museum explaining the history of the area.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr2.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38724" title="isr2" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr2.JPG" alt="isr2" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A group shot by the harbour. It was constructed to be a major port &#8211; around 100,000 square metres in size. The constructed a reef by dropping bales of volcanic ash into the sea, which turns them into solid concrete.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr3.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38724" title="isr3" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr3.JPG" alt="isr3" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>We then went to the <a href="http://www.nili-museum.org.il/html/e_nili.html">Aaronsohn House</a>. They were a family who operated as a spy network in WWI for the British against the Turks.</p>
<p>27 year old Sarah Aaronsohn was captured and killed herself after four days of torture, so she would not reveal her colleagues.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr4.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38724" title="isr4" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr4.JPG" alt="isr4" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Despite being way north of Jerusalem, we ran into a Cabinet Minister. She is with the Labor Party, and I think has the commerce facility. Despite Davidi being with Likud, he is very good friends with the Minister – they were hugging each other when they ran into each other. Israel is a very small place, like NZ.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr5.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38724" title="isr5" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/isr5.JPG" alt="isr5" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>We then went to the old city of Tsefat (aka Zefat and Safed). On the way we visited a couple of war memorials. At most tourist sites they have a machine which will play an audio recording in Hebrew or English. They were really good to listen to – giving you a five minute history of what happened there.</p>
<p>Tsefat is a very old city, and many Orthodox Jews live there. Almost every second building is a synagogue. It is one of four holy cities, along with Jerusalem, Hebron and Tiberias. We saw the (outside of the) former home of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who left in 1948.</p>

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		<title>Likud and Zionism</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rest of Thursday was learning about some of the history of Zionism and Likud specifically.  The first stop was the Menachem Begin Centre. Begin, who signed the peace treaty with Egypt, was effectively the third leader of the revisionist zionism movement. The modern founder of zionism was Theodor Herzl, and then Vladimir &#8220;Ze&#8217;ev&#8221; Jabotinsky [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rest of Thursday was learning about some of the history of Zionism and Likud specifically.  The first stop was the Menachem Begin Centre. Begin, who signed the peace treaty with Egypt, was effectively the third leader of the revisionist zionism movement. The modern founder of zionism was Theodor Herzl, and then <a title="Jabotinsky" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabotinsky">Vladimir &#8220;Ze&#8217;ev&#8221; Jabotinsky</a> led the revisionist faction, which Begin then led.</p>
<p>Begin died in 1992, and usually tops the polls of most admired former prime ministers. However for most of his career he was a terrorist/freedom fighter (depending on point of view) and was very much a political outcast until the 1970s.</p>
<p>The centre in his name, obviously is very favourable to him. They have a very nice set of displays, and audio-visual effects. The tour guide, who works for the centre, was a young Canadian girl who emigrated to Israel just two years ago, leaving her family behind.</p>
<p>Begin was a leader within the Irgun, and there is no doubt by today&#8217;s standards some of what they did would be called terrorism &#8211; especially the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeants_affair">murder of the Sergeants</a>. The British response was not much better.</p>
<p>There was also the infamous <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing">bombing of the King David Hotel</a>, and to this day, there are bitter different points of views between the UK and Israel on it.</p>
<p>Not once in my time in Israel did I hear any demonisation of the Palestinian Authority. The two countries that were always criticised were in fact Britain (for former acts) and Iran (for current support of Hamas, Hizbollah etc). Britain was as much the enemy in the mid 1940s, as was the Arab states.</p>
<p>After the war of independence, tensions between the Ben-Gurion Government and Begin&#8217;s Irgun were massive, and in fact led to some bloodshed. Begin&#8217;s decision not to retaliate is said by his supporters to have prevented a civil war. Ben-Gurion seemed to despise Begin and would not even mention his name for several decades.</p>
<p>In 1977 Begin broke the 30 year monopoly of the Labour Party on power and became Prime Minister. His entire career had been as a hard liner who was against turning over any of the occupied territories to its neighbours. Yet he signed a peace treaty with Egypt in 1979, which set the precedent of land for peace, handing over the entire Sinai peninsula. He won the Nobel Peace Prize along with Anwar Sadat and Shimon Peres. His peace treaty was bitterly opposed my many in his own party.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer19.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38710" title="jer19" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer19.JPG" alt="jer19" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>The signatures on the final page of the peace treaty.</p>
<p>He also bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, and in 1986 approved the invasion fo Lebanon, which eventually led to him retiring in 1983. He was a recluse until his death in 1992. One of the reasons for his popularity is he was seen as a simple man of the people &#8211; and refused to be buried on Mount Herzl, but instead on the Mount of Olives next to two young Irgun fighters who killed themselves in jail to avoid execution by the British.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer20.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38711" title="jer20" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer20.JPG" alt="jer20" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A view of old Jerusalem from the Begin Centre.</p>
<p>After the centre, we went to the West Bank. It was fascinating to see first hand parts of the occupied territories. Two things struck me. The first is how big the West Bank is, and how much room there. It is not some crowded area like Gaza. The second is how close many Palestinian and Israeli cities and settlements are to each other. Don&#8217;t think there is some nice straight line you can draw between the two.</p>
<p>Much of the West Bank will form a future Palestinian state. But it is not as simple as just going back to the 1967 boundaries. Even the Palestinians say they are not expecting Israel to abandon major cities in the area. What is likely to happen is that any area Israel keeps, might be replaced with some territory elsewhere from sovereign Israel. This can be made into a win-win but the devil is in the details.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wb1.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38712" title="wb1" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wb1.JPG" alt="wb1" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A typical shot of the West Bank.</p>
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<p>This is at the top of a strategically important hill in the 1967 war. The military are very reluctant to give up this area, as they say they could not prevent an invasion from reaching major cities without it. That is of course their point of view.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wb3.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38714" title="wb3" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wb3.JPG" alt="wb3" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Below is a Palestinian town.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wb4.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38715" title="wb4" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wb4.JPG" alt="wb4" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A photo of the group, in the West Bank. Regardless of the politics of the area, it was a fascinating place to view.</p>
<p>Then we headed to Tel Aviv where we visited the <a href="http://www.jabotinsky.org/Site/content/t2.asp?Pid=123&amp;Sid=10">Jabotinsky Institute</a>. This was the only part I did not enjoy much. It mainly consisted of a lecture on Jabotinsky, and the presentation was too zealous &#8211; mainly about how all the other Zionists turned out wrong and Jabotinsky was right. Was interesting to learn about him (I had never heard of him before), but what should have taken one hour took two and a half.</p>
<p>We then checked into out hotel in Tel Aviv. Now the hotels generally in Israel had been three star ones to keep costs down. The total cost for the six days was only 500 Euros, and that included hotels, food, travel, driver, and entry tickets.</p>
<p>Now the hotel in Jerusalem was very basic (probably a 2 to 2.5 star in reality) but okay to sleep in. But the hotel in Tel Aviv was a 0 star. You opened the door and immediately saw a cockroach. Not in just one room, and the first three rooms we opened. We gave up after that. Also I noticed the beds had just sheets on them, no sleeping covers. We eventually worked out based on the neighbourhood that this is one of those hotels that you normally rent by the hour.</p>
<p>We staged a walkout and found a much nicer one down the road. The owner actually got offended we were leaving. She was lucky we did not report it to the health authorities for demolition. Yuck. On the plus side it allowed us to hassle our host greatly about how he tried to book us into a prostitute hotel.</p>
<p>Then Thursday night was night clubbing until around 2 am in Tel Aviv. It has a active party scene. I had to cut out early to write my NBR column <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What I gained most from the day is understanding that the issues around Israel did not start in 1948 or 1967. The zionist movement grew out of the late 1800s, as a response to the discrimination and worse of the Jewish populations in almost every country on Earth. People will disagree on whether or not the response was the correct one, but it is simplistic to see it as merely to provide a homeland after the events of the Holocaust &#8211; the move for a homeland had been steadily underway for some decades. Most of the planning happened when there was no Palestine &#8211; when the area was part of the Ottoman Empire.</p>
<p>Today Israel is an established fact, and there is little doubt there will be a Palestinian state at some stage. But under what conditions, and what boundaries is a long way from being resolved.</p>

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		<title>The Church of the Holy Sepulchre</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thursday morning we visited the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The Church is a sacred site for many Christians, who believe is the site of the death and resurrection of Jesus. Apart from the spiritual aspects, it is a magnificent ancient building and is a must see. This is the entrance to the Church, which [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thursday morning we visited the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Sepulchre">Church of the Holy Sepulchre</a>.</p>
<p>The Church is a sacred site for many Christians, who believe is the site of the death and resurrection of Jesus. Apart from the spiritual aspects, it is a magnificent ancient building and is a must see.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer14.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38702" title="jer14" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer14.JPG" alt="jer14" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is the entrance to the Church, which was constructed around 300 AD.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer15.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38704" title="jer15" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer15.JPG" alt="jer15" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is the Stone of Annointing, claimed to be the spot where Jesus was prepared for burial.</p>
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<p>One of the many artworks on the walls.</p>
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<p>Upstairs is the purported site of the crucifixion, You go up a narrow winding rock staircase to get to what is called Golgotha. You can see the rock the cross was placed in, and down below is also the rock that sealed his tomb.</p>
<p>Whether or not you are a believer, the church is a sacred place, and was a real highlight for me.</p>

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		<title>The Knesset</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catching up on the last few days, as have had no time to blog. Wednesday afternoon we visited the Knesset, and were very fortunate to not just have a private tour, but also hosted by the Knesset Chairman, Speaker Reuven Rivlin. We met in his private offices until he had was suddenly summoned to a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catching up on the last few days, as have had no time to blog.</p>
<p>Wednesday afternoon we visited the Knesset, and were very fortunate to not just have a private tour, but also hosted by the Knesset Chairman, Speaker Reuven Rivlin. We met in his private offices until he had was suddenly summoned to a meeting with the Prime Minister, to be told the PM was recommending a 10 month freeze on settlements.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer13.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38699" title="jer13" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer13.JPG" alt="jer13" width="515" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>The Speaker with the Swedish contingent, and Davidi (our host from Young Likud).</p>
<p>Rivlin was the Likud candidate for President in 2007, and has a reasonable chance of becoming President at the next election. His family have resided in Jerusalem since around 1800.</p>
<p>Just as Israelis are very proud of their Supreme Court, they are also proud that they have a universal democracy. There are no electorate seats in Israel &#8211; it is proportional representation for every party that gets over 2%. The threshold used to be 1%, then 1.5% and now is 2%. Some advocate it should keep going higher to prevent the small extremist parties. There are 18 parties in the 120 member Knesset, but they stood under 12 lists only.</p>
<p>Of the 120 Knesset members, 13 are Arabs. Some of them have been elected Deputy Speaker, and one has served as Acting President.</p>
<p>We also went and observed the Knesset in session. It is quite different to the NZ Parliament. The MK speakign does so from a platform next to the Speaker. The MKs themselves sit in four horseshoes (in the shape of the symbol on their coat of arms &#8211; its formal name escapes me).</p>
<p>Their debates are not just confined to passing laws (as NZ is except for question time and general debate). They debate many varied issues every day. However where it is like NZ, is that few attend at any one time.</p>
<p>The visitors gallery is behind soundproof glass. We were told that no matter what we said, no one would hear it. I was tempted to jump up and start yelling out Allah Ackbar to test that assertion, but luckily my common sense won out that this would be a very bad thing to do <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The artwork in the Knesset is stunning &#8211; some of them took a decade to complete. It is a building well worth a tour.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in my <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/david-farrar/david-farrar-middle-east-politics">NBR column</a>, I was surprised at the degree of pragmatism I encountered amongst some of the politicians. You realise after a while that so called bottom lines are initial negotiating positions. We saw that the day we were there with the freeze on settlements (which is a good thing).</p>
<p>After the Knesset we had a meeting with Yigal Palmor, who has one of the more difficult jobs in Israel &#8211; he is the Spokesperson for the Foreign Affairs Ministry. Again fascinating discussions about prospects for peace agreements, and it was during that discussion the idea of both Israel and a future Palestine being part of NATO (to guarantee secure borders) was discussed.</p>
<p>I asked if the settlement freeze will make his job easier, as it will be popular internationally and he (correctly) predicted that the Palestinians would reject it as inadequate. He stressed the US reaction is very important. Paraphrasing, if the US supports Israel on something, then most of the rest of the world will offer mild or muted criticism only. But if the US itself is critical (even mildly), then Israel will face harsh denunciations around the world.</p>
<p>Also talked Iran with him, and asked outright if he thinks Iran would be more willing to drop its assumed nuclear weapons programme, if Israel disposed of its nuclear weapons. I was somewhat amused that he didn&#8217;t even try and deny Israel had nuclear weapons &#8211; he just said that he thinks Iran would want them regardless due to Pakistan and India.</p>
<p>We also have two impromptu meetings in the streets. One was with the Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem. He is a very close friend of Davidi, the Young Likud Chair, despite the fact he is also the Young Labour Chair.</p>
<p>We also ran into Davidi&#8217;s former army commander. He is now a General, and his job is head of counter-terrorism for the Armed Forces. Only had a brief chat to him, but we had dinner the next night with a former Deputy Chief of General Staff, who was in charge of the Northern Command.</p>
<p>A very interesting day all up.</p>

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		<title>History and Government of Israel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our first day in Israel was sightseeing around old Jerusalem. On our second day, we did a mixture of history and current affairs, thanks to our hosts, Young Likud. First up we went to The Greats of the Nation on Mount Herzl. Theodor Herzl was the founder of modern Zionism, and seen as the seer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our first day in Israel was sightseeing around old Jerusalem. On our second day, we did a mixture of history and current affairs, thanks to our hosts, Young Likud.</p>
<p>First up we went to The Greats of the Nation on Mount Herzl. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herzl">Theodor Herzl </a>was the founder of modern Zionism, and seen as the seer of the State of Israel even though he died in 1904.<br />
<a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer6.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38683" title="jer6" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer6.JPG" alt="jer6" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is the memorial to Herzl, whose remains were moved to Israel in 1949.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer7.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38684" title="jer7" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer7.JPG" alt="jer7" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>On the tomb on Yitzmak Rabin, the Israeli Prime Minister who struck peace with with the PLO through the Oslo Accords, and was assassinated in 1995.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer8.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38684" title="jer8" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer8.JPG" alt="jer8" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>And Golda Meir, one of the first elected female leaders in the world, when she became PM in 1969.</p>
<p>We then went <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yad_Vashem">Yad Vashem</a>, which is the Holocaust Memorial.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer9.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38684" title="jer9" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer9.JPG" alt="jer9" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is a photo of a photo taken from a liberated concentration camp. At this stage we were told no photos are allowed, which is a pity as so many of the scenes there need to be shown as widely as possible.</p>
<p>The museum is very moving, and very detailed. There is a huge amount of documentation, plus audio and visual displays. Allow two hours at least. I thought I knew a lot about the Holocaust, but I learnt a lot more at the museum.</p>
<p>At the very end you can search their database of holocaust victims. I spent a while searching for various relatives, which made it very real.</p>
<p>The museum covers well not just the Holocaust, but the conditions that led to it, and also the many people who risked their lives to help the victims.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer10.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38684" title="jer10" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer10.JPG" alt="jer10" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>A Holocaust monument in the exterior of the museum.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer11.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38684" title="jer11" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer11.JPG" alt="jer11" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Female soldiers are a very common sight in Israel as military service is compulsory for both genders.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer12.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38684" title="jer12" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer12.JPG" alt="jer7" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is a picture of one of the Supreme Court courtrooms. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Supreme_Court">Israeli Supreme Court</a> is much hallowed in Israel, as the vision was to found a country based on the rule of law.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court is unusual, in that it is not just an appellate court. It does hear appeals from District Courts (akin to our High Courts) but also is the High Court of Justice and has original jurisdiction on some matters such as petitions against the state. So rather than be a leisurely few cases a year supreme court, it hears over 5,000 cases a year.</p>
<p>The reasons for this is the British, it seems. When the British ruled the area, they did not want the lower courts hearing petitions against their actions, so they</p>
<p>It can and does strike down laws that conflict with the Basic Law. Rather controversially it just a few days ago declared a law allowing for private prisons (I think owned not just managed but am not sure) to breach human rights for prisoners. It tends to be seen as an activist or liberal court, but in a country with no constitution and no existence until 1948, they have been forced to create their own law, relying on overseas precedents where possible.</p>
<p>The Court has 15 members (was 12 until recently) and normally sits in benches of three. More important cases can have bigger benches, and one case had 11 Judges sit on it. There must be an odd number.</p>
<p>We also went to the Knesset, which I will blog about in a new post.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court Building is quite magnificent – a mixture of old and new. Definitely worth a tour.</p>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My weekly Dispatch from St Johnnysburg at NBR, has become a Dispatch from Tel Aviv, on Middle East politics. I discuss Iran and nuclear weapons and Palestine. Comments and feedback can be left at NBR. Tags: Dispatch from St Johnnysburg, Middle East, NBR]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My weekly <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/david-farrar/david-farrar-middle-east-politics">Dispatch from St Johnnysburg</a> at NBR, has become a Dispatch from Tel Aviv, on Middle East politics.</p>
<p>I discuss Iran and nuclear weapons and Palestine.</p>
<p>Comments and feedback can be left at NBR.</p>

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		<title>Jerusalem</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Tuesday I flew from Tehran to Tel Aviv via Turkey. Iran will not let you enter if you have been to Israel previously, so I guessed they would not be that keen on me heading there straight afterwards, so I had been very careful  not to mention the Israel part of my trip publicly. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Tuesday I flew from Tehran to Tel Aviv via Turkey. Iran will not let you enter if you have been to Israel previously, so I guessed they would not be that keen on me heading there straight afterwards, so I had been very careful  not to mention the Israel part of my trip publicly.</p>
<p>I got a bit nervous at the airport though when I realised that as I was on the same airline from Tehran to Istanbul and Istanbul to Tel Aviv, they could see the next leg, as they asked me if I wanted to check my bags all the way through. I very quietly said yes.</p>
<p>The flight to Istanbul was a nightmare as the airport fogged in, and we circled for an hour then diverted to Ankara, refueled and then went back to Istanbul. A two hour flight took almost six hours, and I missed my connecting flight. Got transferred onto a later one okay though.</p>
<p>Just as Iran is not that keen on visitors who have been to Israel, Israel is not that keen on people who have just flown in from Iran. At the gate in Istanbul, I was taken aside and questioned for around 10 minutes about why I had been in Iran, how long would I be in Israel etc.</p>
<p>Eventually got onto flight. When we went through passport control at Tel Aviv, I thought it would be even worse, but the officer accepted my story straight away, and took only a couple of minutes.</p>
<p>Met up with the rest of the group. We have five Swedes, two Finns two Austrians, a Swiss and one Kiwi.</p>
<p>Around 5 pm we went to the Shrine of the Book. This museum houses the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Aleppo Codex. Most people will have heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but now the Codex, which is basically the oldest existing bible – around 3,000 years old. It isn’t a bible per se – more the authoritative source for the bible. So you get some idea of its historical value.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer1.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38648" title="jer1" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer1.JPG" alt="jer1" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is a photo of a model of old Jerusalem at the Shrine of the Book. The model is huge – only a 50:1 ratio.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer2.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38649" title="jer2" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer2.JPG" alt="jer2" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Then went to the Mount of Olives and saw some of the 150,000 graves there, plus the superb view of old Jerusalem.</p>
<p>At 8 pm we hit Old Jerusalem. I can’t describe how wonderful the city is – such a sense of history. We visited the Western (or Wailing) Wall, and also had tours through the Generations Centre and best of all though the tunnels underneath the wall.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer3.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38650" title="jer3" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer3.JPG" alt="jer3" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is the base of the Western Wall. All day and night many Jews go there to pray.</p>
<p>The original temple here was the Temple of Solomon. After that was destroyed in 586 BC, a second temple was constructed by Herod in around 19 BC. The wall is part of the remains of that temple. Judaism believes a third temple will be constructed there when the Messiah comes.</p>
<p>The original temple was on the Temple Mount, which is the holiest site in Judaism as it is taught as the place where God created Adam. It is also sacred to Islam as the site where Muhammed ascended to heaven.</p>
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<p>The tunnels under the Western Wall are incredible. So much history down there. Not one for claustrophobics though. Also a bad place to be if there is an earthquake!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer4.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38652" title="jer4" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jer4.JPG" alt="jer4" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Also did a walk through the alleyways and bazaars of East Jerusalem. This is basically Palestinian/Arab area, and is likely to be officially part of a future Palestine state. While there has been violence in the past, things were generally very relaxed in this area, with people from all religions and races walking about.</p>

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		<title>About Iran</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is me outside the former US Embassy. It is a huge compound in the middle of Tehran. You can get arrested if you take photos of Government buildings, or police officers, and I wasn&#8217;t sure whether this could get me in trouble, so did the photo quickly. Probably didn&#8217;t help that through a timing [...]]]></description>
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<p>This is me outside the former US Embassy. It is a huge compound in the middle of Tehran. You can get arrested if you take photos of Government buildings, or police officers, and I wasn&#8217;t sure whether this could get me in trouble, so did the photo quickly. Probably didn&#8217;t help that through a timing error with the laundry the only shirt that was dry was my Martha&#8217;s Vineyard shirt, which might have people conclude I was from the US. I made sure I kept my passport with me at all times.</p>
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<p>The walls are covered with anti-US artwork.</p>
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<p>And the compulsory reference to the Great Satan.</p>
<p>The above is probably what most people view Iran as being about. In fact most Iranians are very warm and hospitable I found, and I enjoyed my stay here more than some of the other countries &#8211; partly because the taxi drivers do not rip you off, no touts, and the merchants are not overly aggressive (they encourage sales but not harrass you &#8211; even in the bazaars).</p>
<p>But there are some downsides, which now I am out of the country, I should cover:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Internet is seriously filtered and almost as bad is dialup in most places. Kiwiblog is blocked for example (for politics). Amusingly Whale Oil/Gotcha is not. Cactus Kate is blocked (for sex). Many Iranians get around the filter through the use of proxies. They seem to be common knowledge and as they get blocked more new ones get circulated. They block almost anything relating to the old Shah, including some Wikipedia pages.</li>
<li>No external cellphone coverage. Local cellphones work, but not ones from outside. No phone calls or text messages.</li>
<li>No ATMs. Well they do have a few, but they only work with local cards for the bank they are located in. Combined that with almost no credit card facilities and you need a lot of cash. On the plus side you get 7,500 Rials to a NZ$ and a lot of things costs under 10,000 Rials <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>The dress code is strict. Unlike every other country to date, all women must wear a hajib &#8211; including tourists. And all men must wear trousers/jeans. I was even a bit nervous about having a t-shirt as only saw one other person with short sleeves in my whole stay, but I am told they are a bit more common in summer.</li>
<li>While most locals are not at all anti-Western, they are very anti-Israel (to be fair as is most of Middle East). I got asked over dinner which countries I had already visited on this trip, and I accidentally said Israel instead of Egypt, and they looked shocked. Of course if you have been to Israel, you are not allowed entry to Iran, so it may just have been that.</li>
<li>The normal Police were quite helpful and friendly, but I am told you want to avoid the religious militia.</li>
<li>Women have to travel on the back of the bus. Seriously. Even if you are married, men sit and stand in the front half, and women in the back half.</li>
<li>Foreigners are relatively rare. I understand only around 200 Kiwis a year go into Iran, and you do feel very much the stranger at times. I was lucky Paul speaks some Farsi, which helps.</li>
<li>The traffic in Tehran is terrible and their flights are often delayed, which makes internal travel challenging.</li>
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<p>Again though, while I was a bit nervous at times, it was a very enjoyable experience. While I never heard any criticism of the Supreme Leader (and was careful not to offer any), many locals were happy to share their thoughts on the President (and generally very uncomplimentary).</p>
<p>Oh one amusing story. As you can imagine Iran can be a difficult posting for a diplomat if their partner is of the same sex as them. I got told that one Commonwealth country&#8217;s Ambassador (not NZ) had his partner officially registered as his butler to avoid any issues. All the expats knew they were a couple of course, and they went to functions together. One wit said to the partner, that he was the only Butler he knew, where it was spelt with two &#8220;t&#8221;s <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If the Iranian Government stopped scaring people so much, I think Iran could become a great tourist destination. It&#8217;s a wonderful country, with a huge amount to see, and in many sense feels relatively &#8220;Western&#8221;. But I think it will be sometime away. If you are visiting the region though, I would advocate that you do try and get a visa and pay a visit &#8211; you will probably be pleasantly surprised by the experience. And the NZ Embassy is extremely friendly, professional and helpful.</p>

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		<title>Persepolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Around half an hour from Shiraz, is Persepolis. It was the capital of the Persian Empire from around 550 BC to 330 BC when Alexander the Great destroyed the place. Around 12 km before Persepolis is Naqsh-e Rustam, which has the tombs of four of the Achaemenid Kings. Two of the tombs are in this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around half an hour from Shiraz, is Persepolis. It was the capital of the Persian Empire from around 550 BC to 330 BC when Alexander the Great destroyed the place.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per1.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per1" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per1.JPG" alt="per1" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Around 12 km before Persepolis is Naqsh-e Rustam, which has the tombs of four of the Achaemenid Kings. Two of the tombs are in this photo. The tombs are a fair way up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per2.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per2" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per2.JPG" alt="per2" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>One of the tombs closer up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per3.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per3" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per3.JPG" alt="per3" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>The artwork is well preserved generally.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per4.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per4" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per4.JPG" alt="per4" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>They also have on the walls, seven scenes. This is celebrating the victory of Shapur I over Emperor Valerian. Valerian is the only Roman Emperor to be taken into captivity.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per5.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per5" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per5.JPG" alt="per5" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This artwork is thought to be pre-historic – around 9,000 years old.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per6.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per6" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per6.JPG" alt="per6" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Just a km away is Naqsh-e Rajab. Entry to both places is around NZ67c. The site has four inscriptions. In this inscription you can see a noble holding a curved finger up behind the King. This was a sign of respect. Of course today with two fingers it is taking the mickey.</p>
<p>Talking of signs, be aware that giving the thumbs up in Iran, is akin to giving the fingers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per7.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per7" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per7.JPG" alt="per7" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>This is the main gates. The ruins are on a 125,000 square meter terrace.  Those horse like figures were actually bulls.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per8.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per8" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per8.JPG" alt="per8" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Some (rare) grafitti. I’m sure the British Consul-Generals are no longer encouraged to inscribe their names on World Heritage sites.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per9.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per9" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per9.JPG" alt="per9" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>These were quite common on the site</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per10.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per10" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per10.JPG" alt="per10" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>More artwork survives here, than on most Egyptian sites.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per11.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per11" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per11.JPG" alt="per11" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>The quality, as you look close up, is wonderful.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per12.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per12" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per12.JPG" alt="per12" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>They showed visitors and gifts from over a dozen different countries.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per13.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per13" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per13.JPG" alt="per13" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>One of the many palace ruins</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per14.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per14" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per14.JPG" alt="per14" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>One of the palaces has been restored and turned into a museum, with various pieces on display.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per15.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per15" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per15.JPG" alt="per15" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Up the mountain somewhat, are three tombs.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per16.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per16" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per16.JPG" alt="per16" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Inside the tomb.</p>
<p>When we were up there, one family asked our guide for a photo. We thought they wanted one of the whole family, but they wanted it with Paul and I. In some areas they have obviously never seen a westerner.</p>
<p>Another group were noticeably filming us on their mobile phones.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per17.JPG"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-38604" title="per17" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/per17.JPG" alt="per17" width="516" height="387" /></a></p>
<p>Paul, with Layla, our guide. Layla was great. Very talkative, and very knowledgeable. She has been guiding for the last five years, since she was 18.</p>
<p>One amusing thing, was the literal translation of some phrases. It seems in Farsi, saying “If you look closely” in English is “Pay attention”, so all day Layla was telling us to pay attention. The first time she said it I thought I was being told off, until I worked out it was just a translation issue.</p>
<p>If anyone ever does wish to travel there, just contact me for Layla’s contact details if you want a great guide. Very reasonable priced, and makes a big difference.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/PersepolisPanorama2007.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-38621" title="PersepolisPanorama2007" src="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/PersepolisPanorama2007-500x144.jpg" alt="PersepolisPanorama2007" width="500" height="144" /></a></p>
<p>The sun spoilt our panorama shots of the site from up by the tomb, so to give you a better idea, this one <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PersepolisPanorama2007.jpg">from Wikipedia</a> gives you an idea of what you can see. You can click on it for a larger image and a second time for fullsize.</p>
<p>If this site was outside Iran, I would say it would have 20,000 people a day through it at least. But here there were barely 100. Now it makes it very nice to have no crowds, but it is a pity so few people get to see such magnificent ancient ruins.</p>

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