Well done Trevor

November 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am by David Farrar

Trevor Loudon blogs:

Thanks to the Tea Party, several radio interviews and a great plug from Glenn Beck, my book “Barack Obama and the Enemies Within” has jumped up to number 87 on Amazon (out of 600,000 titles).

Off to a good start. Hopefully we can maintain the momentum.

Making the top 100 on Amazon is a huge feat, especially for a Kiwi author. Of course the book is not on NZ politics, but US politics or specifically on Obama.

Having said that, I am very unenthused about the 2012 presidential election. I’d almost vote for Obama over Romney. Huntsman would be great, but he has little chance of winning the nomination.

Loudon makes Congress

September 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

Trevor Loudon’s blog research on now resigned Obama official Van Jones has been quoted in the US House of Representatives.

That is impressive work. Few bloggers get quoted in their own country’s legislature, let alone an overseas one.

Loudon vs Trawick

July 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

Around a month ago Trevor Loudon blogged on Margaret Trawick. Trawick is a Professor of Social Anthropology at Massey University, teaching The Cultural Construction of Gender and Sexuality amongst other papers.

I didn’t see the original post, but did see a later post by Loudon where he responds to an e-mail from Trawick demanding he remove his post, and issue an apology to “all Tamil people, most of all to New Zealand Tamils, to Massey University, and to me.”

Trawick objected to Loudon quoting her comments on a Marxist feminist mailing list, being:

> Women and girls do 2/3 of the world’s work for 5% of the income.
> So when women stop everything stops.

…. and everyone starves. Don’t you think women know that? This is why we cannot go on strike. Be glad we don’t kill every one of you fuckers.

All we need to perpetuate the species is your sperm.

Funny that Marx didn’t think about this.


It seems this is taken out of context according to Trawick.  Well the quote is online here, and people can read the context for themselves.

I did exactly that and started reading the other e-mails in the discussion. I then found this e-mail from Professor Trawick:

I cannot bring myself to hate any category of human beings so much that I would want to kill them all – despite what I said last night.

Isn’t this supposed to be a good thing?

Not sure about others, but that to me sounds like you hate men (as a category of human beings), just not quite enough to advocate their extermination.

Anyway, it is not guys’ fault that they are guys.

Not that it matters whether it is their fault or not.

After all, it was not the smallpox virus’s fault that it was the smallpox virus.

So men are like the smallpox virus?

But it got eradicated anyway – nothing personal.

The Holocaust was based on this idea. Better not go there.

Okay – we are clear on that – the Holocaust was a step too far – even a male only Holocaust.

But even lesbians do not as a rule advocate male infanticide – while female infanticide is practiced all over the place. And it is the mothers who do this, of course.

“Right-to-life” advocates say abortion is like the Holocaust. We disagree with them. But in a way they have a point. Selective female feticide happens in China and India. We think it is wrong. Too close to infanticide. But abortion is not wrong – as long as it is not gender selective.

But would selective male infanticide be wrong?

Well I tend to think so. Of course you are not advocating such, just asking the question of course.

And then another e-mail:

If female human beings have been exploited and misused by males since time began, if the most fundamental class division is between female and male human beings, and if females can get along fine without males, except for basic reproductive purposes, then why do not females simply eliminate males, cull them as male calves or goats or sheep are culled by farmers and sold for meat. Because if males are allowed to reach adolescence, they only make trouble from then on out.

They fight and kill one another by nature. Better to cull them before they reach this stage.

Cull is a much nicer word than exterminate.

Please understand that I could not advocate such a program. My only children are two sons, and I love them more than I love anyone or anything else in this world, and after them comes my love for my partner, who is male. I would die for the sake of any one of them if I had to, no
questions asked.

Yep. You personally do not advocate the genocide of males, as you can’t hate “any category of human being” so much. But you are not sure if selective mail infanticide is wrong.

Now these are all e-mails from a publicly archived mailing list. Personally I have little interest in the ramblings of a Massey Professor. But demanding Loudon removes his post and apologises for quoting them is what got my interest in these – as universities are meant to be bastions of free speech.

Please note I will be deleting abusive comments on this post. Make your point without name calling.

Further thoughts on Police informant story

December 15th, 2008 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

We now know that at least one activist has been working for the Police, and also that several activists worked for private investigators.

I wonder if it is possible that some of the smaller activist groups are 100% made up of informers? 🙂

Trevor Loudon has blogged the reaction on Indymedia to the revelations.

Also Bryce Edwards has blogged an e-mail from three years ago raising concerns about Gilchrist.

The Dom Post reports what John Key said on Breakfast:

Mr Key today said police investigations were an operational matter and the Government could not direct who it investigated.

But the spying allegations raised some concerns, he said.

“I think the main point here is we would need to be satisfied as any New Zealander would that those being investigated were worthy of investigation, in other words, they present a real or credible risk to the safety and security of communities, not just a group the police target because they feel like it,” he said on TVNZ’s Breakfast programme.

He said he would be concerned if frivolous investigations led to a loss of public loss of confidence in the police’s judgment.

“I wouldn’t like an individual group like Greenpeace to be targeted,” he said on Newstalk ZB.

However, he would be more comfortable if it was individuals who were being investigated rather than organisations.

But he said police based their actions on a wide range of information and even environmental groups could “undertake quite violent behaviour”.

And Judith Collins is sounding more concerned than initial reports suggested:

Mrs Collins said she wanted to know the facts before deciding whether an inquiry was needed, but would be concerned if innocent people were being watched.

She has asked Mr Broad for a report at their weekly meeting today. “I would be very concerned if law-abiding groups and activities were being spied on.”

It will be most interesting to see if anything eventuates. Ministers need to be very careful about second guessing the Police, but there certainly seem to be some questions that need answering.

Blog Bits

September 6th, 2008 at 3:16 pm by David Farrar

Homepaddock has the full range of “If leaders were cars“.

Karl du Fresne blogs on a forum on media reporting of challenging stories such as the N&S Asian Angst, the Clydesdale research on Pacific immigration and the Danish cartoons. Karl makes many excellent points including:

I also expressed my firm belief that in a liberal democracy, the right to freedom of expression is far more precious than the right of a minority – in this case the Muslim community – not to be offended.

I’m not even sure there is a right not to be offended. I can maybe accept a right not to be vilified, but that is a very different thing. And Karl nails it again:

The greatest threat to the healthy process of disclosure and debate that followed the Clydesdale story is the belief that the state must protect us from harmful ideas because we’re not mature and intelligent enough to deal with them. Underlying this is a fundamental distrust of democracy.

Trevor at New Zeal profiles the Trotskyist background of Andrew Geddis, the Labour/Green appointed Chair of the electoral reform expert panel. Andrew is an expert in the area of political financing, and very respected. But when appointments are made without bipartisan consultation, then the background of appointees come under great scrutiny. All Labour had to do was ask National and other parties if they agreed with the proposed appointees, or have any names of their own they wished to propose.

Stephen Franks blogs on how spin should not save crap managers, applying it to the party that has managed NZ’s military, SOEs, and hspitals for the last nine years. A good read.

Who is Trevor talking about?

September 1st, 2008 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Who is Trevor Loudon talking about?

He is regarded as a political maverick, who in the past has challenged his own party’s leadership.

He hales from the southern part of his country, an area known for its hot dry winds and often arid parched soils. Its people are tough but very laid back.

He has been embroiled in a do or die battle with another politician that has held the country’s interest like no other political event in decades.

His opponent is a lawyer turned politician, a “man of color” as the Americans say. His opponent is telegenic, charming, charismatic and known for his oratory. …

Recently he confirmed his electoral 2IC.

She is a 44 year old, gun-toting super mother of 5. She is attractive, dedicated, intelligent and youthful. She is known as a strong campaigner against government waste and is a committed supporter of her country’s Armed Forces.

Click on the link above to see who he is referring to. Quite smart.

Blog Bits

June 16th, 2008 at 5:41 pm by David Farrar

Barnsley Bill blogs on the 35 kg stone which was flown first class to China as it was culturally insensitive to have it in the hold.

Frog Blog has a look at parties on Facebook. Frog has even found a Winston for PM group – but with slightly less members than the Bring back the Good Night Kiwi group.

American Thinker mentions NZ’s Trevor Loudon, and his work on Obama’s past.

Dim-Post looks at the options for Labour with the ETS:

  1. Rush the hastily amended, highly complex legislation into law by buying off the Greens and Winston Peters, paying a high political price now and ensuring at least six months of dire headlines as horrible mistakes and unintended consequences in the law are bought to light repeatedly embarrassing the government right in the middle of an election campaign they’re already losing.
  2. Admit the bill is dead and face a couple of days bad news focusing on the failure (which you can mostly blame on National).

And his prediction:

Scenarios like this are when Clark’s ultra-competitive personality undermine her own self-interest and that of her party – she’ll press for a parliamentary victory even if it is spectacularly pyrrhic one.

Blog Bits

May 27th, 2008 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Tony Milne links to a CNN piece of possible Vice-Presidential candidates.

On the Republican side I think Minnesota Governor Tim Rawlenty would be a good pick. He is a popular Republican Governor in a Democrat leaning state. The convention is in Minnesota

Not PC has a very comprehensive round-up of the work done by Trevor Loudon on Barack Obama. He describes Obama as “Keith Locke with charisma” 🙂

Bernard Hickey has graphs of petrol pump prices, and how much goes to the producers, the local oil companies and the Government. The local company margin is currently close to 20c – a three year low.

Phil U at Whoar finds Jeremy Clarkson’s best and worst cars.

The worst is the Tata Nano and the best is the Nissan GT-R.

Trevor joins the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

May 26th, 2008 at 4:19 pm by David Farrar

The HeraldNet reports from the US on allegations against Obama, including from NZer Trevor Loudon who specialises in links to communism:

Here are some things we can look forward to learning about Barack Obama:

That he was mentored in high school by a member of the Soviet-controlled Communist Party.

That he launched his Illinois state Senate campaign in the home of a terrorist and a killer.

That while serving as a state senator, he was a member of a socialist front group.

That his affiliations are so dodgy that he would have trouble getting a government security clearance.

The newspaper is sceptical, saying:

The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy took a blow with Hillary Clinton’s exit. But it is regrouping, and finding plenty of sinister things to say about Obama — even if he didn’t trade cattle futures.

Hillary invented the term VRWC to describe her foes. If the VRWC is now targeting Obama, Hillary is probably funding them 🙂

“He’s a member of an organization (that is) openly a front for two socialist groups,” reported another participant, Trevor Loudon.

“Obama was raised and educated in a very Marxist-rich environment, which often would limit his worldview,” reported a third, Max Friedman.

In college, Obama “admits selecting Marxist professors among his friends and attending socialist conferences,” Kincaid went on. In Chicago, he said, “Obama launched his political career back in 1995 at the home of communist-terrorist Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn,” the two Weather Underground figures who have already made a cameo in the campaign. Kincaid then made the unilateral decision to accuse Dohrn of the 1970 killing of a policeman, a charge no prosecutor has made.

Personally I’m not too worried about communist influences when people were young. Hell Stephen Franks was a communist as a student and he has turned out fine 🙂

But I do hope the election in the US will focus on the policies, not just the rhetoric, of the two candidates. For example John McCain is staunchly in favour of genuine free trade agreements with as many countries as possible. Obama is not only against further FTAs but wants to renege renegotiate on the ones already signed such as NAFTA.