A freudian slip indeed

July 24th, 2007 at 1:32 pm by David Farrar

The official story is that David Benson-Pope knew nothing at all about his staff’s phone call to his Ministry CEO about Madeleine Setchell.

Yet in an interview this morning on Radio NZ (audio file go to 2:45), he said:

It turned out that the rumour we’d heard …

The interviewer seized on this, and DBP claimed he meant we in referring to the whole office, but excluding him!

He then said in response to questions later from journalists “his use of the word “we” had been a Freudian slip” (quote from NZPA).

Now a Freudian slip is where you say something you didn’t mean to, because of your subconscious mind. The example given is when you call your wife by your mistress’ name.

So Benson-Pope is right that it was a Freudian slip – one which revealed the truth as Freudian slips often do.

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32 Responses to “A freudian slip indeed”

  1. burt () says:

    Labour are the most unprincipaled bunch of liars that have ever held office in this country.

    Sorry that was a Freudian slip – I was meaning to say that DB-P did know about the politically motivated sacking authorised by the PM.

    Oh I slipped again, I was meaning to simply say I trust DB-P and Helen Clark when they say that there is nothing to see here and we should move on. The taito field case has proven their state of labour’s integrity !

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  2. Seamonkey Madness () says:

    Bussss-ted!!

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  3. Craig Ranapia (1,912 comments) says:

    No so much a Freudian slip as the whole dang trousseau – with a nice pair of shoes thrown in for free. :) But that whole interview was weird – never thought I’d say this, but my sympathies were entirely with Sean Plunkett, because he was admirably restrained at the tsunami of mutually contradictory fudge coming from Benson-Pope.

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  4. peter mck () says:

    oh, why lefties, is Benson-pope twitching away as Key is asking the hard questions of The soon to be ex-Prime Minister. By the way she looks absolutely pissed that she again has to defend this dead-beat.

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  5. Selma Bouvier () says:

    The biggest slip up was made by one PM who said of one woman she said she never met, yet later admitted to going to dinner at her house!.
    It must have been the wine

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  6. burt () says:

    Selma

    And unlike a Labour MP/PM – she resigned. Thanks for reminding us just how little integrity the lefties have.

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  7. Selma Bouvier () says:

    now its the right one?
    She resigned ! Dont tell lies
    She brazened it through an election which she lost .( in spite of big advertising spending and offering tax cuts)

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  8. Shout Above The Noise () says:

    Remember this about Panty Slut Boy too; this is the same son of a bitch who bullied female colleagues back in his teaching days if he thought they were National Party supporters.

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  9. cuckoo () says:

    Careful DPF, you’ll have Panty-Slut-Boy in a lather. He’ll be itching to try on this new “slip” thing you’re talking about, and apparently he can get quite aggressive if he doesn’t get what he wants!

    (Hopefully it doesn’t clash with the diamante dog-bowl he eats from when he’s “in character”, ..or the latex bodybag,..or the clothes pegs on his todger…he does like to appear co-ordinated).

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  10. cubit9f () says:

    National’s performance at Question Time was limp. I only hope they are playing a slow deliberate game and letting D B-P dig himself further into the mire as he has memory lapses as to what constructed answer he used on previous occasions.

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  11. slightlyrighty () says:

    “The biggest slip up was made by one PM who said of one woman she said she never met, yet later admitted to going to dinner at her house!.
    It must have been the wine”

    Really Selma?

    How many people were at this house at the time? Was it a small gathering or a right shindig?

    The reason is, I have, on different occasions, been in the same building, in the same room, at the same time as Tana Umaga, Jerry Collins, Prince William, Rowan Atkinson, Ben Elton, Marian Hobbs and Whoopi Goldberg.

    I have never actually met any of them

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  12. kiwi in america () says:

    Selma
    Of all the lefties who post on this blog you are the most blindly loyal to Clark and Labour. There appears to be no excess, no scandal, no lie, no shameless spin, no trampling on convention that you will not enthusiastically defend. Of all the slimy nasty pieces of work to have graced Parliament (and there have been numerous of all political hues over the years), David Benson-Pope seems to be in a league all his own and yet there’s nothing to see here – move along.

    So tell us – is your motivation Realpolitik – ie the ends justifies the means or are you a party hack perhaps? Maybe being the last rat to leave the sinking ship has a certain noblesse oblige about it.

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  13. The Perfect Man () says:

    These folk don’t know truth from lies. They are relativists. They don’t believe in absolute truth or right and wrong and so anything is ok if it gets one the results one wants. All that socialists are worried about is power and they will do anything to keep it because in the end that is all that counts.

    If there is no higher moral authority than man and all men are supposedly equal then at the end of the day ‘right’ is gonna be determined by power nothing else. Might is right. Hence their need to gain control of all types of power. This explains why socialists always tax higher (even if they return it back via refunds etc) – because money is a form of power so they must control it as much as possible. And they won’t trust people like Setchell to be principled because they themselves are not. Liars expect others to lie just like most thieves believe all people steal. These people can’t understand that there are people who work to gain power by honest and transparent means. They play by different rules (none) than us mugs.

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  14. Muad,Dib" () says:

    Having watched this liar on tv tonight,,who does this bauld weasle answer to , his bum boy is in the hot seat, shit i have come up against bull shit tossiers like this tossier , watch this useless arsehole will throw his staff to the(US)ie the voters, , HELEN YOUR DREAM IS DIEING ., liaring arshole

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  15. Anon () says:

    kiwi in america: i think selma is parody. don’t take him/her so seriously

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  16. Charlie Tan () says:

    “Of all the lefties who post on this blog you are the most blindly loyal to Clark and Labour.”

    ooo. Is it a competition. Where do you enter?

    But seriously, I suppose that Selma’s behaviour isn’t really on though, what with all the fair and balanced comments emanating from the national supporters on this site.

    Anyway, the fact that the media and the nats are jumping all over a rhetorical slip shows that they don’t actually have any evidence of actual shaky dealings by the minister himself.

    Perhaps they should all just fuck off and investigate something real.

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  17. Jimmie () says:

    BENSON POPE is sticking to his principles……….deny everything and try and keep to the rule of: No matter what DONT GET CAUGHT!! How he ever managed to get into Parliament and Cabinet is beyond me………….Role on Election 2008. I think the best thing is for DBP to stay in Cabinet til the election, that way he acts like a slow acting cancer draining the fading life out of this Labour government. He won’t change his ways…..and he’s too incompetent to know how to hide his incompetency. HA!

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  18. Porcupine (242 comments) says:

    Charlie, I am not a nat supporter. But in this situation the buck stops and DBP. Labour and the unions are quite happy to support blindly laws where the owner of a business is responsible for harrassment of an employee by another employee even if s/he doesn’t know it is going on. In the same way DBP has to take responsibility for the action of his staff.

    I can see everyone’s point about the current government corruption – vote labour out, stick it to the man.

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  19. David Farrar (1,812 comments) says:

    Selma said:
    “The biggest slip up was made by one PM who said of one woman she said she never met, yet later admitted to going to dinner at her house!.
    It must have been the wine”

    Selma trumpets this as a lie, but once again she is wrong. Jenny Shipley never met Jane Vesty. She had dinner with Kevin Roberts at Jane Vesty’s place in Wellington, but Jane was not there and Jenny had no idea whose house it was. Jane’s company worked for Kevin so she offered her Wgtn house as a suitable venue to have dinner with the PM.

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  20. Tracy () says:

    I think it’s important to not take our eye of the ball here folks – even if it is a tennis ball, lodged firmly inside BP’s mouth by the great leader herself to stop him making any more freudian slip-ups.

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  21. Sean () says:

    Its Madeline Setchell I feel sorry for in all this. Poor girl, the chance to work for PSB (aka DBP) has been ripped away from her.

    She must be feel gutted.

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  22. Charlie Tan () says:

    Yes, yes, that’s right,

    I’m always invited to dinner at the houses of people I don’t know. I never ask whose house it is, and I most certainly do not ask questions about the family pictures on the mantlepiece, knowing instictively that the house I am in does not belong to the person who is hosting me.

    Jeezuz Dave, you hand us this and then and you call are naive for pointing out that – short of some not so creative semantics – there is no evidence to involve DBP initiation of this current mess?

    [DPF:Charlie - it is a fact that JS and JV had never met each other. Sure JS may have asked KR's whose place it was but it doesn't change the fact that JS never met JV and was 100% correct when she said she she had never met her. I doubt there were any family pictures as IIRC it was JV's Wgtn apartment for when she was down - not her main home. This is all irrelevant now anyway, but Selma lies so constantly I feel obliged to point them out from time to time]

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  23. Charlie Tan () says:

    …you call us naive…

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  24. burt () says:

    Charlie Tan

    Two months ago I went to dinner with some friends at a place that some friends of theirs were house sitting. I don’t even know the name of the owner of the house. I don’t know anything about them except they had a great house for entertaining.

    I’ve also used a friends apartment for the same while she has been away. Do you not get invited out much?

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  25. Craig Ranapia (1,912 comments) says:

    I’m always invited to dinner at the houses of people I don’t know.

    Well, Charlie, I’ve accepted invitations to dinners and parties without checking out a LIM report on the address listed on the invite first. Nor do I demand to see the guest list, so as to avoid being tainted by the ideologically unacceptable.

    Oh, and in the unlikely event you’re ever welcome in my home you won’t find any photos of me or my partner on the walls – rather, they’re of family members I’d expend considerable effort to keep as far away from nutters as possible,

    I’d never call you and Selma ‘naive’, Charlie. But it’s hard to push the phrases ‘paranoid conspiracy nuts’ and ‘habitual liars’ out of mind.

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  26. Walsingham () says:

    Does anyone else get the feeling that DBP is about to join the “renewal” of Labour at the next reshuffle?

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  27. Craig Ranapia (1,912 comments) says:

    Yes, because to be perfectly cynical the one unforgivable sin in politics is to deliver a lousy return on the investment of political capital – and I think Clark can’t help but decide she’s wasted more than enough time and energy covering Benson-Pope’s arse.

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  28. Muad,Dib" () says:

    Isnt NZ great , in a few monthes ,we might be able to say to friends (do you rememder that nasty tossier ,(david benson pope)
    no more pics of the basset hound look after another stuff up, after this bauld arsehole has ruin another psa career, ie no more crap from parliment,
    OPPS OPPS ,to much cheap wine and beer,im in a dream,after another hard day , this nasty arsehole will still be ruling us, as he has the basset hound look , with SELMA,yes selma singing his praises

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  29. Cathi () says:

    Does DBP’s slip go with Rodney Hide’s combinations, that’s what I want to know :)

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  30. David MacGregor () says:

    As the thread is petering out let me venture that a Freudian slip is where you say one thing but mean your mother.

    Sorry.

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  31. Charlie Tan () says:

    Burt:

    I own my own home and so do most of my friends. We don’t get a kick out of “staying in a house that is not a flat for a week” or “staying in a place where the bedroom is not the same space as the kitchen” because we do so every day. Besides, if I “sat house” for a week, I’d have to find a house-sitter of my own, which kind of defeats the purpose.

    I suspect also that the guy who invited Jenny Shipley around for dinner was not a house-sitter, but, as David said, he was “borrowing” the house for the purpose of entertaining the PM. Now I don’t know about you, but if somebody opened their whole house for the express purpose of entertaining yours truly, I do think it would be only polite to find out who owned the house so I could thank them if I ever met them. And I find it a little hard to believe that one who had a vested interest in meeting the Prime Minister would lend her the house and not try to make it known whose it was. In fact, I’d say there is a high probability that she was there.

    So in this instance, either

    a) Jenny Shipley is a bad liar

    or

    b) Jenny Shipley is a rude bitch.

    You can choose which you believe.

    Craig:

    The feeling is mutual re: dinner at your place. I don’t think I would like to eat somewhere with cold venom on tap and bile dripping from the walls.

    As to the matter at hand:

    It seems that Gerry Brownlee is now accusing DBP of directly saying to the Chief Executive that he wanted Setchell gone. I suppose he has some evidence for this, right?

    No?

    Oh well, we should take his word for it, I suppose. He is, after all, an MP.

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  32. cuckoo () says:

    I’d like to remind you Charlie Boy that this post is about Benson-Dope accidently telling the truth – OK?

    Quote of the day still goes to Tau Henare (across the floor to “bassett hound” dejected Panty Slut Boy): “cheer up Blinky!”

    Priceless!

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