False Police report
July 30th, 2007 at 8:30 am by David FarrarThe level of confidence in the Police won’t be helped by this story in the Dom Post which reveals a report claiming new recruits were brighter than serving police officers had omitted the test results of recruits who had done poorly.
This report was quoted by the PM herself. The Govt should demand answers from the Police and should stop trying to deny there is a problem, when there is one.
July 30th, 2007 at 8:53 am
This is another example of how the neutrality of the bureaucracy is being undermined. Bureaucrats know they have to distort the facts to make the government look good. They don’t even need to be asked – they have seen too often the thuggish bullying behaviour they get from ministers if they tell the truth.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 8:58 am
I would not be suprised by this claim, as many university graduates are entering and graduating from Police College, many older officers will not have had a university educations. So whilst new recruits may be brighter, they do not have the street smarts and experience that the currently serving officers have. It is these officers that will educate the new recruits about how to deal with the situations they will face and help guide them in managing scenarios, a Bachelor of whatever may make one brighter but it does not teach you how to try and calm an offender down whilst trying to help the victims as well.
It is also a pity that a few bad eggs have given all Police such a bad name, most are not.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 9:12 am
It appears we should first concern ourselves with the standards of senior police before we worry about the recruits. Either that or explore how the police have been corrupted by the Labour political process.
JC
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 9:45 am
It will be interesting to see what comes of the managers’ defence. It’s legitimate, for example, to remove outliers in samples, DPF knows this as a survey-meister. And, if you were comparing the rate of graduate entry, for example, it would be fair to drop off all of the non-graduates as being outside of the scope of your analysis. I don’t know what the HR Manager’s defence is, but I wouldn’t necessarily be worried about the analysis as long as the method is clearly flagged. I would be worried if the data is cut in the most favourable way and used to generate a fundamentally misleading impression. Tweaking the data for clarity is one thing, misleading ministers is another thing completely.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Another attempted cover-up by Police is exposed. How many have the Police to date successfully covered-up? As long as areas like the Police Complaints Authority, and the Parliamentary Services (Under the wing of Hon Margaret Wilson, Speaker) are excluded from scrutiny under the Official Information Act 1982, corruption will flourish as Transparency is out the door..
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 10:28 am
DDD,
You should have read the article before commenting. “The Annan report and the Saunders report are based on the same recruitment information, but contradict each other”.
A large portion of one sample was omitted from a graph for no apparent reason other than they had scored poorly. That is not “tweaking the data for clarity”.
Of course, if you read Keith Hunter’s book Trial by Trickery, you realise what lengths police will go to to get a murder conviction. Falsifying police recruit data is small fry in comparison.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
You can take the police aptitude test at their website. http://www.newcops.co.nz/GetStarted/TakeTheTest
If you do, you may find that you get the following question:
“If a man weighing 80 kg increased his weight by 20%, what would his weight now be?”
You might think, like I did, that the correct answer is 96 kg. 20% of 80 is 16. But, that would score an incorrect answer on the exam. The police-approved answer is 100kg. Because 100 kg less 20% of 100 is 80.
I wonder how many of the low police scores are due to the test being wrong…
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
My view is that it is highly likely the politicians had set the criteria for a response, and that criteria says something like – ‘I dont want graphs showing the real situation”, or “it must show we are increasing the recruitment rate, and the standards are improving”
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
interesting test script – didn’t see that question, must be “cheat proofed” even if wrong in spots
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
The test is however not marked by percentage, but rather by above average, average, below average etc. It is not the sole way to get into Police College either, there is also interviews and physicals. The exams are a way to see how you interpret situations and react.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
It doesn’t really matter how stupid the Police Cadets are. The real problem lies at the top of the force, with promotion to commissioner relying on such issues as sex (preferably female) and adherence to Stalinist doctrines relating to political correctness, rather than talent and ability and experience. The hopelessness of the Police Force is just another manifestation of the destruction of NZ at the hands of the collectivists.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Redbaiter…Don’t forget knowledge of the principles of the Tireti Te O Aotearoa is also an essential pre-entry requirement……This falsehood by yet another Headquarters Officer is how-ever alarming. As with the distortions as to what was meant by a ‘ticket Quota’ the effect is to undermine the credibility of all the conscientious officers giving evidence on oath. Police are trained to be precise and state the facts. They should carry that training through to Headquarters positions as well.
Vote:July 30th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Six new graduates sat through a police recruitment presentation two years ago. After a few questions concerning, remuneration etc it all became a bit awkward when upon completion the recruitment officer asked who was interested. No one moved a muscle, not a wisker, not even the two four foot asian women or the sixty year old. None of us wanted a bar of it. It seemed we all had sunnier shores elsewhere. So who is signing up?
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