PM has not read report!
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:36 pm by David FarrarThis is amazing. Rodney Hide has just questioned Helen Clark on whether she is happy with the $40,000 donation to Peters from a donor through the Spencer Trust. Peters tried to block it half a dozen times but he finally got to ask it.
Clark’s response was she has not seen the wiring diagram from the SFO that was in the Privileges Committee report.
So the PM has not even bothered to read the report. This takes her hear no evil, see no evil to new levels. That $40,000 strikes cast grave doubt on the integrity of decision making around the racing portfolio and the PM declares she hasn’t even looked at the evidence.
I mean seriously just when you think the standards can not drop any lower, they do.
So Helen Clark has cleared Winston Peters from any wrong doing, and she did it without even needing to read the report of the Privileges Committee. She will presumably be voting against the report – also without reading it.
Related posts:
- ODT on Clark
- The SFO evidence
- Clark confirms Peters stays regardless of Privileges
- The myth that the Privileges Committee will decide who is telling the truth
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Surely she jests?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
And will Fat Fran Mold ask the PM about this on tonights TVNZ news?
YEAH RIGHT
[DPF: No references to weight of journalists please]
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
She didn’t need to as she was getting a blow by blow account from Cullen on a daily basis, while Key was trusting Simon Power to run the committee, which by all accounts he has done well.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Unbelieveable.
Vote:Some-one should put the wiring diagram on a bill board outside her house!
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm
This is farsical. Is it possible to call a vote of no confidence this close to an election? I would love to see the results.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Helen made a huge strategic mistake today.
It is a mistake that I believe she will be unable to recover from.
“Prime Minister Helen Clark says the conflict of evidence has not been satisfactorily resolved in order for her to make a decision on Mr Peters’ future.”
In making this incredulous statement, she has removed any doubt that she considers
herself to be above the law.
The rest of us have known this for some time, now the rest of New Zealand knows.
You cannot tell the NZ public for several weeks you are waiting on the Privileges Committee, and then
Vote:dismiss outright its conclusions, just because it doesn’t suit your politically.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I also note that Klark is accusing the Nat’s of running a dirty campaign, will the media point out the hypocrisy of her statement?
YEAH RIGHT
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Oh, the shame.
Vote:I recall an old birthday song… “why was she born so beautiful
why was she born at all.
She’s no bloody use to anyone,
She’s no bloody use at all.”
Let the farce continue to its ultimate demise.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Of course, nothing ever could “satisfactorily” resolve that question. Still, I am thankful that Clark has been automatically exempt from jury duty since she entered Parliament in 1981. She would have found it too traumatic for words.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Our Dear Leader shows her wisdom by being able to tell the contents of the report without even reading it. Her superlative awesomeness knows no bounds, and before we mortals are as chaff. All Hail Our Dear Leader!
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I have not read the evidence.
But Winnocent is innocent.
How the fuck does that work? I wonder how much it would take for Winnocent to spill his guts? Surely there is some rich prick out there that can grease his palm, I mean, he’s shown himself to be open to a bit of financial persuasion.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Nefarious
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. – That’s how it works.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Helen doesn’t care what Winston did.
Helen cares about herself and power.
There is no other explanation .
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Even worse than that – Cullen is quoted as saying that even though MP’s believed that Peters lied, it is not grounds to be sacked – that is a freaking scandal!!
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/09/what.html
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
She hasn’t read it. But someone has, and told her it is so damning tht she would have no choice but to sack him, so she simply adopts the tactic of sticking her fingers in her ears and singing ‘LALALALa” until the nasty people go away.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
And will Fat Fran Mold ask the PM about this on tonights TVNZ news?
YEAH RIGHT
She might Big Bruv…….. after her evening shave.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
And yet event derivatives paying out at $1 if Winston is fired or resigns are still trading at about $0.37 on iPredict. I’m massively short; anybody else? Who’s reckoning that he will be fired at this point?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Quick show of hands from any sensible persons who still believe that Winston doesn’t have seriously damaging dirt on Helen.
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anyone?
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Nope.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
LOL Crampton, I bought them at 80c.
I guess people think that if it hasn’t happened by now, it simply ain’t gonna happen.
Edit: I thought she would hold on to him only as long as she needed to (to see out the term and to pass the Emissions Trading Bill), but now realise he must have something on her.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
wreck1080 (93) Vote: 0 0 Says:
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Helen doesn’t care what Winston did.
Helen cares about herself and power.
There is no other explanation .
There must be wreck, as I scan the blogs there is a lot of innuenndo about a certain PM’s wife….what does it allude to?
Can someone tell me please.
As an ex Labour supporter I am disgusted and ashamed at the way things here are panning out, shame and eternal pox on you Helen and yours.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I think this attitude is the result of her and Cullen having painted themselves into a corner over Winnie. Had they shown some concern at the start and even said that the allegations were serious and demanded further investigation, she could have pulled back from Winston now. But she didn’t. She treated it as though the PC was going to exonerate him and consequently her inability to admit any wrong decision ever means she is in the ludicrous position of Labour being the only party outside NZF to push the line that Winnie was hard done by, in the fae of an avalanche of evidence to the contrary. Poor judgement from such a supposedly accomplished politician. Of course her depthless arrogance means she doesn’t even realise people think Winnie is a crook and she’s either pathologically deluded or in cahoots with him.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Do you think McCain would send a task force to invade us if he wins and Helen also wins?
We’ve got some oil, an Islamic terrorist (or 2?) and a corrupt dictator, surely we fit the bill for a war against terror?
Resistance would be minimal, maybe phule and a few other losers stumbling outside stoned and telling them to fuck off, at most.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Any of those who have scoffed in the past when I said Luigis got Clark by the balls big time want to argue with me that its just about politics
this aint about politics never was about politics its all about saving face and not being totally and utterly humiliated in front of the nation.
Thats what Clark is about Trying to avoid being condemned as the most fraudulent Prime minister this country has ever had.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Any reasonable swing voter watching question time today would have been shocked at the antics of dear corrupt leader.
IMHO she was close to losing it, never have I seen such a nasty, vicious or a more hostile attack on somebody in the house, the issue of what Key did or did not do was lost in her naked hatred.
She resembles the very worst of dictators who has a honest belief that they have a right to rule unchallenged, it would not surprise me if she was suffering from some sort of medical condition.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Yep, I have yet to see any credible explanation for all this other than that Winnie knows where the bodies are buried…….
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
gd
Clark could resign today and all this pain will go away. She will be yesterdays news about 3 days after she resigns…. what is stopping her?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
and it’s all about “Trust” Lol
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
All the Nats and Rodney have to do is keep asking her questions about why she hasnt walked away from Luigi and eventually she will pop. And when the House rises all those attending gatherings or meetings have to do is keep asking her the question why she didnt fire him when the SFO announced it was investigating.
Bit by bit she will be shown even to her dumbest supporters to not have a credible answer.
Bit by bit the TRUST mantra will be exposed for the fraud it and her really are.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Well from her many adverse comments concerning the Privileges Committee it is clear to me that the Tyrant intends to supplant the Committee and replace them with herself as sole Judge should she win the election.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Judge Hell – “I AM THE LAW”
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:16 pm
All this time I have a nasty niggling thought at the back of my mind, what surefire play out of the Putin/Chavez handbook of “how to manipulate democracy” does Helen have lined up for the next election? Because nothing else so far makes sense.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
All Gummint Reports are toilet paper for those lucky enough too enjoy the Absolute Power regime.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Philbest
God forbid she gets back in but IMHO high on the agenda will be full public funding of political parties but set at a modest level and excluding any advertising the current government does on the grounds that this is just ensuring the citizens are aware and informed
this will also include a Commission for Political Advertising that will authorise all such advertising and its members will surprise surprise be appointed by the government.
Then there will be the legislation around the new concept of families.
In deference to other cultures we will be allowed to have more than one husband and one wife and in fact a man may have another man as a partner and a women or wimmin as well and vice a versa if they chose.
Children will be obtainable from donors and swappable amongst extended family groups.
All this and much much more to look forward to from the FOURTH helen Clark administration
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
BYW the last bit on families is part of the policy disucssions from Ruth Dysons Ministry Advanced work has been undertaken on this matter
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Labour want to treat and trade children as part of the sick social experiment. They are evil.
Edit ; who needs reports when policy is written behind closed doors?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
For the fiftieth time today I have thought to myself.
What the hell has Winston got on Helen.
After reading Absolute Power by Ian Wishart and thinking that if 25% of this is true we must get her out of power I am now starting to think maybe there is much more to her skeletons than meets the eye.
Dover Samuels was sacked with the “Swirling accusations” scenario forcing Helen to do what was right and get rid of him.
What Dover did or did not do was nothing compared to what Winston has been proven to have done. Michael Cullen has alo proven himself to be a man with the lowest of standards and scruples.
Another question I have thought. “What the hell are the backbenchers for Labour thinking now? If the whole of New Zealand can see what power hungry deceiving sacks of shit they have as leaders they must be able to as well”
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Everybody knows that Winston has something big on Klark. I wonder what it could be?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Tranzrail shares perhaps?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Dad – it has to be something more than the LA airport rumour – gizz a clue !
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Teddy bear’s picnic secrets perhaps?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
If you go out in the woods today
Vote:You’re sure of a big surprise.
If you go out in the woods today
You’d better go in disguise?
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Dock You are obviously not aware that newly elected Labour MPs under go an ethics and morals bypass as part of their initiation ceremony
They are at this moment reading our comments and saying WTFs wrong with these people. Doesnt everybody do it?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm
OR:
Perhaps she’s going to read it tonight? Or right now? it can’t be the only thing in her In tray.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm
burt
Probably the thought of spending time in prison, if Winston spills the beans.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm
You know what RRM, you are absolutely correct.
She’s probably had to wade through the latest Foodtown mailers, see what’s on spesh at Te Warewhare, pay the parking fines on all the ministerial beemers, reply to some fan mail and scrutinise John Key’s Onecard account.
That unimportant shit can wait, we know Winnocent The Innocent is incapable of telling porkies and gorging at the trough of big business.
Knob. Head.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
You obviously don’t have the pleasure of emptying a large e mail Inbox every day then, Nefarious?
(If we’re going to rush to any conclusion about Clark’s apparent reading rate, I don’t see why it can only be DPF’s overtly hostile conclusion.)
And. don’t. call. me. rude. names. Most. of. us. get. demerit. points. for. calling. people. rude. names.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:27 pm
It’s not about trust anymore is it Helen? It’s about fraud.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I’ve got plenty of demerits for abusing ignorant lefties and I wear them like a hard earned badge of honour.
As for email? I have a large staff of sycophantic dangleberries to do menial shit like that for me. And when they aren’t doing that they better damn well be out there smearing my competitors and victimising errant customers who don’t bring their business my way. Those bastards should be grateful I even take their money, and if they dare complain about the service I’ll just increase the prices. Ignorant fools.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm
A stunning revelation by Peters in Parliament this afternoon.
In one of his repeated attempts to stop Rodney Hide speaking on the Privileges Committee report, he raised the question as to why it was OK for Nick Smith to have a trust fund to pay his legal bills, but not OK for Peters himself to have one for the same purpose.
The trust fund he was referring to is the Spencer Trust. It is a very short time since Peters was vehemently denying he knew anything about the Spencer Trust. Now he admits its purpose is to pay his legal bills.
How are we ever to know when he is telling the truth? Will he hold up a sign?
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
At which point Trev interjected and asked why it was ok for Mickey C to stay up late and watch CSI: New York when David and him had to go to bed.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Why has NZ sold it’s soul? Even DPF is too wet and PC to admit:
1) Peters has Helen by her balls (and I meant that)
2) Helen is corrupt
3) RRM, Sonic and the rest has about as much credibility as Helen.
Guys if Helen is not protecting “the secret” by supporting Winston, then we must encourage Phil Ure to be your next minister of labour or have him as the new CEO of the Dairy Board.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 6:46 pm
You obviously don’t have the pleasure of emptying a large e mail Inbox every day then, Nefarious?
(If we’re going to rush to any conclusion about Clark’s apparent reading rate, I don’t see why it can only be DPF’s overtly hostile conclusion.)
Yet she has somehow found the time to trawl through John Keys entire Investment history….
Oh the priorities!
And. don’t. call. me. rude. names. Most. of. us. get. demerit. points. for. calling. people. rude. names.
Only when one is not being a deluded knob head.
Vote:September 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Cullen is quoted as saying that even though MP’s believed that Peters lied
Ah, Michael Cullen. For a man who chooses his words carefully he was awfully sloppy on Close Up just now. He said that Owen Glenn had one version which was denied by Peters and Henry – not true. Initially they denied it, but when OG produced the evidence, they changed their story to say that they “couldn’t recollect” what had occured.
Peter Dunne spoke quite well on it during the debate on the committee’s report – he said that when the evidence was in, there was very little between the two sides, but that neither side disputed what had occurred on Dec 14th – as above. So Cullen has made his mind up on something other than the evidence – i wonder what it could be?
Vote:September 24th, 2008 at 2:20 am
big bruv says on September 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm:
I can see your point there big bruv. Fran will fail to grasp the gravity of the issue.
Vote:September 24th, 2008 at 2:23 am
It Hels can’t be bothered to read the report she is not fit to govern New Zealand.
Vote:September 24th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Is Clark even going to allow us to have an election in November?
Vote:September 24th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
# dad4justice (4037) Vote: Add rating4 Subtract rating 0 Says:
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
“Everybody knows that Winston has something big on Klark. I wonder what it could be?”
# Nefarious (226) Vote: Add rating5 Subtract rating 0 Says:
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
“Tranzrail shares perhaps?”
WHO’D KNOW?
Poor old Ian Wishart hasn’t got enough time to do ALL the scrutinising of these people, and no-one else is doing it……..
Who believes that ANY MSM journalist has popped down to the shares registry office to check on the shareholdings of the members of the Labour Cabinet AT ANY TIME?
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