Stupidity
December 20th, 2008 at 10:53 am by David FarrarCTU President Helen Kelly has said:
Council of Trade Unions president Helen Kelly said all workers should be able to get similar increases.
She said some vulnerable workers struggled to get any increase at all.
“It would be great if all workers had the same bargaining power and influence as judges and were able to get pay increases like that,” she said.
Judges have no bargaining power at all. An independent tribunal sets their pay unilaterally.
So is Helen Kelly saying she would like all workers to lose their bargaining rights, and have a tribunal set pay for all workers?
Tags: CTU, Helen Kelly
December 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Typical socialist come commie claptrap, where do they find these morons. Unsure of Helen Kelly’s age but perhaps it’s about time someone told her we are not born equal. It would be a nice change if some of these union leaders put their brain in gear before opening their big mouths. If Dear Helen was to get her wish and we all received equal pay increases at the same level as everyone else in society then pay increases would be meaningless.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Does the judges union hold pay talks down at the local masonic lodge?
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Same tired old class war bullshit.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:28 am
The more the union leaders are reported saying this crap the better. They prove with each utterance their total irrelevance to todays workers.
Helen Kelly is as out of touch as the union leader who wants his workers to strike against their employers because his union was supposedly spied on by the Police. Yep that’ll tell them.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:48 am
What else can you expect from another Labour Party stooge?
The socialists have yet to accept their electoral defeat, but that does not prevent their “leaders” from dishing out the same old tripe. Instead, comrade Kelly should keep her mouth firmly shut.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I laughed pretty hard at this.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Even more idiotic is her failure to acknowledge Judges remuneration is specifically protected for constitutional reasons. For example I’m not sure of the current law but there used to be clauses in the Constitution Act specifying their pay couldn’t be dropped and they used to have special taxation rates for their superannuation.
This is all designed to preserve their independence given their job is to act neutrally in determining issues that may have significant unfavourable effects on the Crown.
Given Helen’s position it’s not unreasonable to expect both her and the journalist who wrote the report to know that, which makes it all the more regrettable that at least one of them didn’t point it out.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 11:52 am
The unions, like the Labour party are still to figure out what the rest of the world already knows. Their 15 minutes of fame has been and gone. They are yesterdays news. They would have some use if they just told their members to work hard and be thankful for any work that may be offered.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
D4J
No. But if you’d like to join one I can arrange an inroduction!
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
An award system? Like the good old days? Isn’t that exactly what old-school unions want?
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
For a moment I confused her with Helen Keller. Blind, deaf and DUMB.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Well thinking about it… Politicians don’t set their own pay and they do pretty well each year. The (I love saying this) previous PM had increases of circa 9% every year since 1999. Perhaps there is something in this “The commission awarded the pay rise and I had no say in it” scenario?
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Yep, stupid, stupid, stupid, keep calling it what it is, DPF.
These twats and the twats in the MSM that give them so much time of day, need a few basic economics lessons, and what happens when you don’t bother to allow the right valuation of each job to flow through to incentives to people to do each job.
Ronald Reagan used to wind up Mikhael Gorbachev by telling him jokes like this one:
A Russian goes into a showroom when the new Lada car is introduced, in 1980, and says he’d like to order one. The salesman says, yes, we can let you have one in July 1985. The customer asks, what day? The salesman consults a dossier and replies, the 17th. The customer asks, morning or afternoon? The salesman asks, why does it matter? The customer says; “because the plumber is coming that morning”…….!!!
BOOM !! BOOM !!
That is the consequence, taken to extreme, of people like Ms. Kelly running an economy……..
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
The Unions really have no relevance with the mobility of the majority of the workforce.
That is what they actually do know and recognise.
The problem is with the MSM.
Who cares what the Unions think outside of their membership and with those companies that still give them any creedence.
You are history and you know it. Frankly you are simply overpaid parasites. Would be far better for union fees to be left to the descision of each worker.
I have no problem with Union Representation. It simply needs to be entirely voluntary.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
She’s got to do SOMETHING to do justify her leaching funds out of the pockets of her low paid members so a press article leading up to christmas is perfect as the journo’s need to fill column inches quickly in between xmas do’s and the members will not expect any type of actual activity on wage negotiations until Autmn at the very earliest.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Oh dear. Helen just doesn’t understand. Unlike her “workers” who can withdraw their labour and strike, judges are bound by a convention that they do not, it is without fear nor favour they vocate themselves to the service of justice, take a significant pay cut from private practice and close off the opportunity of returning to that better paid work.
Perhaps Helen should think about doing something for her members rather than moaning in a very “rich prick” kind of way about others.
Vote:December 20th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Bleating no hopers. Needing to be heard to make sure their membership knows they’re alive. Waste of space. Go and get a real job.
Vote:December 21st, 2008 at 10:35 am
I take issue with…
“Judges have no bargaining power at all. An independent tribunal sets their pay unilaterally.”
Who is on this independent tribunal? It seems to me, that judges and politicians always get inflation busting rises regardless of how the economy is performing.
Vote:December 21st, 2008 at 12:31 pm
“So is Helen Kelly saying she would like all workers to lose their bargaining rights, and have a tribunal set pay for all workers?”
Thats actually a very good idea.
Vote:December 22nd, 2008 at 8:17 am
Kelly or Keller? This woman seems about as in contact with the world as Helen Keller.
Vote:December 22nd, 2008 at 8:20 am
Are the wage movements of Union officials a matter of public record?
If yes, does anyone know where I can find them?
If no, then Kelly would do well to STFU
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