Mt Albert Backbenches
June 10th, 2009 at 9:00 pm by David FarrarThe pub here in Kingsland is packed – well over 200 people here – MPs, activists, supporters – a who’s who of NZ politics almost.
The audience is very noisy it will be hard to hear it all. But TVNZ have kindly arranged a place near the front for us, so will try my best.
Labour/Green supporters booing when ACT candidate introduced. I absolutely hate the boors who do that. You cheer your side and heckle the other side – but just booing is pathetic and puerile.
Just did a clip about the David Bain trial. Wallace did not mention he was a witness!
Each candidate saying why they should be the MP – 30 seconds each.
Nothing new.
Now they are doing a Mt Albert trivia quiz. Lee doing well.
Vox Pop on Government’ proposed motorway option – 6 support, 4 against.
God there are a lot of MPs here – even some from Dunedin – and you paid for all their travel!
Very hard to hear. Wallace needs to take control.
Signing off – can’t hear enough – lots of fun though – people should be here.
Tags: Backbenches, Mt Albert
June 10th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
The usual Labour rent-a-mob in full attendance.
Don’t they know they lost the election last year?
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Is Helen there?
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Did you really expect anything else DPF?
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
The irony is that the booing will probably go down poorly with people watching on TV. It might conceivably cost Labour quite a few votes, particularly with women.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Yeah but the reality is how many people outside of politics actually watch the show?
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Lady voters always prefer the boisterous, unkempt, and rude louts. Tui!
Not sure this is in the bag for Labour. Think the nonsense that Goof has been spouting recently, is just te best reminder about how
scurrilous the Left’s tactics really are!
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Labour/Green supporters booing when ACT candidate introduced. I absolutely hate the boors who do that. You cheer your side and heckle the other side – but just booing is pathetic and puerile.
I absolutely agree.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
HMMMM…. I wonder where the boo’s come from?
Vote:Oh no, silly me.
The left love to boo and protest etc!!
June 10th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Roger the pig farmer is there. So is Rochelle Rees.
Now that could be interesting!
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Was Rusty Kane mentioned… Was he even there… I here the smaller party candidates were not invited.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Toad, just don’t boo people, ok. Just because Labour does it…
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
What a disgrace. What an absolute waste of time.
E: And fuck Russel Norman.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Who might be the out of town polies be?
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
what reasonable parliamentary business would all these mps be up to on a wednesday night in kingsland?
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
There’s the three MPs (ACT, Green, National) standing at the front table for a start. Not only did we pay for their travel, we’re paying for their campaigning time as well.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Metria is on the front row…
Wallace needs a load hailer, he is not going to have a voice after tonight.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Letter to Wallace
I heard though the David Farrier grapevine that you will be bringing the Back Benches up to Mt Albert. I was asked as one of the Mt Albert candidates if I would be there on the panel. I can only say that I was not invited. I can only imagine like all democratic media events you only invited the larger parties candidates. Thinking they would be the only ones you and your audience would be interested in hearing. The only ones that matter. All the ho hum boring farts Melissa Lee being the most colourful.. Comon Wallace get real what about the rest of us the real colourful candidates the most flamboyant the real salt of the earth.. If your show is about getting down to the real people the nitty gritty. Then get some real people to talk to them. Instead of the usual party parrot drop kicks. As you know Wallace New Zealand politics is made up of a diverse range of colourful people, Its people like you Wallace that make it boring, by sticking to the straight and narrow old boring formats.
Rusty Kane
Vote:Mt Albert candidate
June 10th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
If I had not seen tonights show I would still be under the media generated impression that Melissa was a fool. She was great tonight.
The treatment of Melissa has been a disgrace.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
BKBee, it’s people like you that we don’t need thank you.
Vote:To think you would get real media time is a joke.
Now run along and get a job, you’ll get over it.
Thank you.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Not in politics or journalism then Michaels.. Go Melissa
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
you’re of course right Rachael Rich. Melissa got bagged from the leftie MSM for being so naive as to tell the truth – lets now see how they treat Neelam Choudary’s dodgy past (if at all)
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Sounds like a last radio dispatch from Normandy 1944:
God there are a lot of MPs here… (sounds of gunfire, whistling shells overhead)
Very hard to hear. Wallace needs to take control….(insane screaming, someone crying for his mother, shouts of “Medic! Medic!”)
Signing off – can’t hear enough….. ( distant shout of: “David! Get down!” Whistle of incoming shell, massive explosion then…static.)
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
“Melissa to David…. Melissa shouts…Where’s the money David.. Where’s the money”.
Vote:I presume she means for the Waterview Motorway.. If she doesn’t know and David doesn’t know then who does know.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
BK your a twat.
Vote:Labour never had the money.
Detour the motor via Kingsland I say!!
June 10th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
They had a chat apparently. Though Roger didn’t want to talk about his pig farming activities in the past.
Vote:June 10th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Just got back from the brewbar, and am going to share some thoughts.
Firstly give wallace an air horn, and have him blast the boo-ing pricks in the ear every time they try to drown out a speaker. I was stuck near the labour supporters. It was initially them trying to drown out the speakers, with subsequent retalliation from all sides.
Thought Melissa Lee did ok. A little shaky start but got better as the show went on. Liked it when she pointed out she had “more muscle than russel”. She also won the “audience question”, recieving a $60 booze voucher and mug.
I can also confirm what whaleoil pointed out over twitter: David Shearer was being fed lines every commercial break.
As far as I could hear, neither act nor national brought up the fact that the Labour tunnel is not easily upgradable. This was in my oppinion a big mistake. More than the price tag argument, greater Auckland dislike the idea of being stuck with an inadequate solution for the political expediency of wellington dwellers. The fact that the Labour tunnel had no potential for upgrade, and little room to accomodate a broken down car should have been stresssed. It would have brought back memories of the harbour bridge (and other Auckland roading fiascos) and won a bit of support in my oppinion.
Finally a lady near me pointed out how unhygenic she thought the makeup application was: they powdered everyone’s (sweaty) faces with the same brush and powder. Wallace had a retouch last so we should probably monitor him for swine flu.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Was there, couldn’t hear anything, drank beer.
Vote:Disappointed with the Labour supporters who booed Melissa Lee. Pathetic little children.
June 11th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Jarbury: Roger the pig farmer is there. So is Rochelle Rees. Now that could be interesting! They had a chat apparently. Though Roger didn’t want to talk about his pig farming activities in the past.
So is Douglas no longer a pig farmer?
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 8:40 am
^^ I think he’s not anymore. Toad knows more about it than me.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Ahh no Jarbury, Toad doesn’t know anything about Sir Roger Douglas. He *thinks* he does and we let him because we feel sorry for him and his party.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 8:47 am
luvvies..luvvies..and even more luvvies..
http://whoar.co.nz/2009/comment-whoarthe-backbenchers-specialmore-media-luvvies-than-you-could-poke-a-stick-at/
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Those of us that had aspirations of a Melissa come back… Think again!
Vote:What candidate would be stupid enough to park in a disabled car park at a candidates debate if they are not disabled.. Oh Dear… Melissa what was she thinking. Maybe she thought the car park was set aside especially for her and her campaign.
The Greens just might come second yet. Thanks to Melissa. Dust of your push bikes Auckland.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:06 am
lee didn’t park it..she went in a taxi..
..a (disabled) lee-helper parked the car..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Just out.. TV1 Breakfast show… Nationals said it was not Melissa. It was someone else in Melissa’s campaign car who was truly disabled.
Vote:My apologies… Damage done.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:51 am
The left’s ability to play the man and not the ball never ceases to amaze me, they are nothing but low life scum.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:09 am
the gentleman who moved the vehicle away did not have any obvious disability when walking past me the 100m or so back to it. He has been driving this vehicle throughout the campaign. Possibly he was not the one who parked it. Possibly there is a legitimate disability sticker in the window and the driver who parked it/ moved it is a legitimately dis-abled driver. Possibly there are other explanations….
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I was pleased that I went there. Like Paradigm I was in amongst Labour’s young crowd. That was a bit depressing. Then I looked carefully at the pathetic young fellows with their red rosettes on, and the unattractive women with them.
Vote:I was reminded of a piece I had read on Cactus’ site;
“The men (boys in this case) they work with are generally not in any way sexual, testosterone pumped , money making motivated machines.”
Cactus had been describing the men that Labour Party women hang around with.
There is no way we could determine the wager, but I would like to bet that more than 90% of those pathetic boys and their unattractive hangers on, will have their snouts in the taxpayers’ trough in eight years time. No business could make money employing dickwits like them.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
TN, I agree with you. All those young blokes are good for is pinching the press galleries piss. Lord Flashheart would have a field day with the fillies.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
“Labour/Green supporters booing when ACT candidate introduced. I absolutely hate the boors who do that. You cheer your side and heckle the other side – but just booing is pathetic and puerile.”
You boo rather than heckle when you have nothing intelligent to say – enough said
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
What, no mention of the Act-o-lytes trying to drown out Shearer nearly every time he spoke? That seemed at least as big an issue from where I was standing. How odd, if not exactly surprising, that there should be a double standard.
It was what it was, and I actually really enjoyed watching it on the big screens in the garden, and the general air of chaos. But it’s absurd to pretend only one group of supporters was shouting and jeering.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
But Russell…..Shearers an ACT man at heart…..so it was just playful joshing.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Looked to me that everyone was doing their fair share of heckling. Wallace must have been hoarse at the end of the show. Did no-one tell Melissa Lee that the “who am I” question is for the audience? Another Melissa moment.
Vote:June 11th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Time for today’s People’s Choice Prease Release..
“The People’s Choice Party”
PRESS RELEASE 11/06/2009
Rusty Kane offers to be Melissa Lee’s Campaign Manager.
People’s Choice Mt Albert by- election candidate Rusty Kane is offering Nationals Melissa Lee Mt Albert by-election candidate to be her campaign manager for the last two days before polling day.
He said her campaign has been badly managed by National and she deserves better.
The smear campaign against her from the left and her off the cuff remarks taped in the heat of candidate meetings would not have happened if she and her campaign was properly prepared and managed. Rusty said in his opinion she is the most promising candidate in the Mt Albert by-election. She is smart courages and determined to achieve. Perfect material for a good campaign manager to work with. Even at this late stage in the campaign with only two days to go Melissa Lee’s derailed campaign can be put on track to come in at a credible second place. As it is now with no professional campaign management support behind her she will be lucky to make second place. Rusty said I like her she has spunk and says it like it is. With good management she would be a great political representative for any party or electorate. He also said his own campaign is all but over, did anyone hear my parties message that citizen initiated referendums be binding on the Government.”No” but you did hear Melissa’s Lee’s car was parked in a disabled car park. She defiantly has that X factor and media appeal thats required, thats half the battle won for a campaign manager.
“The People’s Choice Party”
Vote:PO Box 41002,
St Lukes,
Auckland 1346
topps@kol.co.nz
June 12th, 2009 at 7:17 am
big bruv said..
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June 11th, 2009 at 9:51 am
The left’s ability to play the man and not the ball never ceases to amaze me, they are nothing but low life scum..”
brilliant..!..eh..?
from a rabid one who only ever ‘plays the man’..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 12th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
It’s even harder to give a crap about this byelection than it is to take an interest in the national one. And I actually live in this electorate.
The usual sense of total powerlessness, trivialization and tribal stupidity that reigns supreme at election time is multiplied in this one. For starters, it really doesn’t matter at all who gets in. It won’t make the slightest difference to anything. All of the issues that affect the electorate have been decided in Wellington already. They’re pretty big issues, too.
I’ve usually got little time for no-voters. But this time, I seriously can’t see the point. A massive bloc of red voters is going to put Labour in, so absolutely nothing is going to change in Parliament. But even if it was a total upset and John Boscawen got in off the strength of some weird mass hypnosis effect from his annoying robocalls, it would not make a lick of difference to anything. The balance of power is already held by National and ACT, and Rodney Hide is already deciding from Wellington how Auckland is going to be governed, and John Key is deciding how many houses will be knocked down for the motorway. The double tracking of the railway will continue at it’s glacial pace, and any time I ever actually want to use the rail it will still be out of service.
On the positive side, though, Mt Albert will still be in Auckland. They can’t take that away from us. It will still be a good collection of suburbs to live in, with pleasant natural features and climate, and proximity to the city center. Eventually, at the cost of a few thousand people’s homes, it will probably have the best motorways in the entire country – it’s already pretty awesome in that regard. It will still have the railway, and also the cycleway. It will still have at least one good beach for swimming and one for launching boats, and plenty of places to fish. It will still have Eden Park for rugby, and will still host the Rugby World Cup, It will continue to have Chamberlain Park for casual golfers, Owairaka park for the kick arse view, and Oakley Creek for the nature walkway and waterfall. It will still have 2 excellent public schools and a technical institute. It will still have the cafes of Kingsland and Pt Chev. Employment will still be found in the surrounding industrial parks, or the easy commute to the city.
So do I care if some ACT guy is concerned about rising crime in NZ, or some National chick wants to make tasteless jokes, or Russell has more muscle than you could find in an empty pipi shell on Pt Chev beach, or some Labour loyalist is going to do what Labour loyalists have always done, or if a talking goat got elected to ‘represent’ us? It’s a rhetorical question.
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