Hypocrisy and lies on state sector CEO salaries

January 29th, 2010 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

First the hypocrisy exposed by Keeping Stock:

Mr Rennie said the pay rises flowed through from a decision in 2005 to increase the overall funding for chief executives by 5 per cent a year for five years. …

Yes that is right. Labour signed off on a formal policy to increase CEO salaries by 5% a year for five years. A policy cancelled by National in 2009.

Then we have both the hypocrisy and a lie, from Grant Robertson.

I actually find it hilarious that Grant, the self appointed defender of the public service is promoting Goff’s idiocy.  Grant has oppossed every cost savings National has made in the public service, demanding more public servants and higher , and then suddenly he is for a pay cap!

But the lie is this:

A raw nerve has been struck very quickly with David Farrar over the commitment in ’s speech to cap Public Sector Chief Executive pay at the level of the Prime Minister. He describes the policy as “idiocy”.

I wonder how DPF’s friends in the UK Conservative Party would feel about him calling an idiot. Because, as Phil Goff said in the speech today, this is something that the UK Tories are also talking about.

Grant is wrong. Maybe he did not read his own link and just trusted that Phil Goff was correct, He’s a smart guy so won’t make that mistake again.

What does the article say David Cameron wants to do:

  • speculation that public sector salaries may be frozen if the Conservatives are elected – something Labour and the PSA no doubt would condemn
  • named several public-sector employees who he indicated are overpaid – and I could name some here also.
  • said a Conservative Government will “out” quangocrats and mandarins who have been “getting rich at the taxpayer’s expense” by publishing details of all public sector salaries over £150,000 – well we already publish salaries over $100,000
  • Mr Cameron said that means-tested tax credits for people earning over £50,000 would be scrapped to save taxpayers’ money – scrapping their equivalent of WFF – again not sure Grant is endorsing this.
  • seek to reintroduce Gordon Brown’s “golden rule” – to keep Government borrowing below 40 percent of national economic output – wish Labour would tell us their debt target – seems to be the higher the better
  • The Conservative leader also indicated that the Conservatives may freeze public spending in future – wow a spending freeze

Nowhere at all does David Cameron talk about having a policy that no public servant can be paid more than the Prime Minister who gets 197,000 pounds.

His Shadow Chancellor did in one speech suggest that the Chancellor’s permission be necessary for any pay above the PM. His exact words were:

In the current climate, anyone who wishes to pay a public servant more than the Prime Minister will have to put it before the Chancellor.

There is a huge difference between needing to make a case, and a blanket ban which Goff announced, as the House of Commons itself resolved.

Osborne also incidentally proposed a 5% pay cut for Ministers, cutting the number of MPs by 10% and closing off the parliamentary pension scheme and most of all cutting the cost of Whitehall by one third!

Now the House of Commons Public Administration Select Committee happens to have just published a report on top pay in the public sector. Let us see what they think of Phil Goff’s idea:

Public servants who earn more than the Prime Minister are very well paid indeed. Reward at this level deserves a clear and public justification, and close and sceptical scrutiny. But any proposal to use the Prime Minister’s salary as an absolute cap on public sector pay would be little more than a political stunt.

Little more than a political stunt. That’s NZ Labour.

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21 Responses to “Hypocrisy and lies on state sector CEO salaries”

  1. Ex-pat (2 comments) says:

    David Cameron and much of his Bullingdon club ilk voted for both war in Iraq and Afghanistan, so they are hardly averse to profligate spending.

    When the toffs displace the synthetic oiks here I expect to see a repeat of the barmy 1980s in NZ: trickle down, vouchers for education and various other technocratic tinkering that passes for conservative politics these days. Ho hum. The more things change…

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  2. Inventory2 (10,440 comments) says:

    Indeed DPF – and Goff is of course bound by the convention of collective Cabinet responsiblity for decisions made whilst he was a member of the Labour Cabinet. If he now thinks that the more-than-25% pay rises given to departmental CEO’s was a mistake, he should be honest enough to say so.

    Perhaps instead of focusing on “ordinary New Zealanders” this year, the Labour Party should make its 2010 goal to re-write recent history :-)

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  3. scrubone (3,105 comments) says:

    Seems to be a bit going around today. I’ve just written a post outlining Obama’s Hypocrisy, it’ll publish in an hour.

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  4. kowtow (8,780 comments) says:

    Phil Goff: 3 words;

    Foot,self,shoot.

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  5. m@tt (631 comments) says:

    That raw nerve of yours is really buzzing isn’t it.

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  6. davidp (3,588 comments) says:

    >Little more than a political stunt. That’s NZ Labour.

    Do Robertson and Goff have a resource consent to spread thousands of tonnes of bullshit all over NZ?

    Nick Smith should send this one to the environmental court.

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  7. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Ex-pat, please could you clarify how the Conservatives spent money on the two Wars that you mentioned? We will know a little more about the lead up to the Iraq WarII. It will be fascinating to watch Fony Tony give clear evidence.

    From what I can see, which appears to be one hell of a lot more than that demented freak McDoom and Bust. You are really speaking in the same vane as NZ Labour. Lying is in Socialists DNA. You are sounding like a whinging Pom.

    For the record, I am not an individual aligned to any political party here or anywhere. I just like to see what is pragmatic, and gives vent to hard work and aspiration.

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  8. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    The Tories only voted to support the Labour Party based on the utter lies given by Blair to Parliament. Having re-read your crass comments, I have only one comment. You don’t know what the F you are talking about. The Class war is over. Didn’t work in Crewe and Alsager did it?

    Expect ZaNuLabour to be a bereft, irrelevant and bitter as Labour are in NZ. Oh, how they miss the Wicked Queen of the South.

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  9. lofty (1,317 comments) says:

    Yet another confirmation that the transfering of my vote was the right decision.
    ppppfffftttt to popularist bollocks.
    Hypocrite goff and his cronies couldn’t lie straight in bed, in fact they will need to use a cork screw to dig their graves, when the time comes.

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  10. Craig Ranapia (1,915 comments) says:

    CONSUMER ADVISORY:

    ‘For The Many, not The Few’ has now been re-branded ‘Do What I Say, Don’t Say What I Do’.

    Carry on.

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  11. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    grass roots Labour party supporters will not care that Robertson and Goff are bullshit artists over this, or indeed over any other rubbish they say.
    I read that when Goff was quizzed over the fact that Labour had 9 frigging long years to sort this out, he said we are in a different situation now and .. the goody, Labour has a new leader ,, ffs

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  12. lastmanstanding (1,303 comments) says:

    If you want to see how governments operate go to yesterdays Timesonline. The Labour government has set up a quango costing STG9million a year with 40 staff The chairman gets STG185,000 a year. But is cant operate because the government hasnt yet set the legal parameters around its operations It isnolved in Infrastructure Planning and Approval but duplicates other existing agencies.

    the Conservatives say they will abolish it if elected and the government says it cant enact the enabling legislation before the end of the current Parliament.

    This is a typcial piece of BS governance that the Poms and we have to suffer under. Dumb arse pollies and civil servants with no governance nous or skills

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  13. berend (1,716 comments) says:

    DPF, this salary cap is semi-enforced in The Netherlands. Too lazy to lookup the details but the term is “Balkenende norm” and I believe it is that you can’t earn more than the PM (Balkenende).

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  14. mjennings (37 comments) says:

    I wonder why the most sick, perverse, crimes seem to be committed by whites (noticeably South Island whites):

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10622979&pnum=2

    Of course Mr Farrar will have no interest in drawing attention to this most vomit inducing criminal case (linked) in a long time.

    Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.

    But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.

    I challenge Mr Farrar to create a blog on the House of Horrors killer – surely more deserving of condemnation than even this sick animal abuser who fed kittens to his pitbull.

    I doubt if he will though – because in this case the perpetrator is white.

    [DPF: 10 demerits for off topic]

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  15. Countess (150 comments) says:

    Another Farrar snow job, with red herrings, strawmen and ad hominens thrown in.

    So you add a BIG list of Cameron ideas- big deal . hes not saying he supports any others just the excessive salaries.

    But thats to cover up where Cameron had a similar ‘policy’ . You cant just so hes right can you!

    And there is just a few in Camerons sights . Surprise surprise there is a ‘ few’ in Goffs sights too. Some say its only 14!.

    Hoist. Petard.

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  16. kowtow (8,780 comments) says:

    mjennings@346

    This poster clearly has a problem with DPF but he should be careful about making wild claims about race ,crime, sex and the South Island.

    A case that comes straight to mind is the poor Scottish woman who was killed in I think Rotorua by a fellow who was only 14 or 15 at the time and as I recall he”s what some folk would call a tangata fenua.

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  17. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.

    But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.

    I guess you missed his posts on Clayton Weatherston then….

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  18. ALS (4 comments) says:

    David you make a very good point about government debt:
    “seek to reintroduce Gordon Brown’s “golden rule” – to keep Government borrowing below 40 percent of national economic output – wish Labour would tell us their debt target – seems to be the higher the better”

    While that relates to the UK, it is also relevant here, and we do hear little about what’s happening with government debt. Does anyone know what it was at the time of the last election here, what it is now, and whether our current government has a similar policy to link the upper bound of borrowing to national economic output?

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