Labour MPs showing beneficiaries how to budget

September 27th, 2012 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

I think it is superb that a group of Labour MPs are living on $2.25 of food a day, for a week, to demonstrate how you can eat cheaply.

Their potato and spinach curry recipe should be displayed in all WINZ offices.

I am a bit confused that they are so eager to demonstrate you can feed yourself on just under $16 a week, that they demand increased payments for beneficiary parents. Currently a low income parent gets $88 a week for their first child, and $61 a week for additional children (on top of core benefit, accom supplement etc). Of course you have non food expenses also, but thanks to Grant, Jacinda, Phil, Annette and David they are showing you can have $72 to $45 a week for those other expenses.

I look forward to their other recipes on how to cook for $2.25 a day. Maybe they could publish a book with Muriel Newman on it?

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35 Responses to “Labour MPs showing beneficiaries how to budget”

  1. Sofia (856 comments) says:

    … for a week, to demonstrate how you can eat cheaply.

    A little fuller story being that it is to live Monday-Friday this week on $2.25 a day to support the Oxfam campaign – $2.25 being the World Bank’s extreme poverty line converted to NZ dollars.

    How many National members are doing the same?

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  2. Manolo (14,161 comments) says:

    Given their chubbiness proletarians Grant Robertson and the delicate Charlie Chauvel should go on for at least a year.

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  3. alex (304 comments) says:

    @sofia – None of course, National doesn’t believe real poverty exists, only classification errors.

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  4. dave_c_ (225 comments) says:

    Yer right ! Publicly they may spend on average $2.25 per day , but privately, they’re probably using the plentiful stocks in their pantries, and the joys of the wine cellar in the garage !

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  5. peterwn (3,332 comments) says:

    Our family did a similar exercise for the Dom (as it was) some years back. It backfired on us when the big boss at work wanted to negotiate a pay cut.

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  6. MH (830 comments) says:

    Eggactly. Why stop at a week? Put dot.comedy on the same diet. Master Chef Parliament Bile,first reading.

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  7. Grendel (1,013 comments) says:

    yeah thats right Alex, or maybe they think mugging for the camera to show ‘solidarity’ for the poor (who are not this countries poor) is as pathetic as it looks.

    so what difference other than letting labour feel even more smug, will this actually achieve? none, at all.

    hence the absolute waste of time. i am glad national is ignoring it.

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  8. wtfunz (133 comments) says:

    From the same article and just perfect.
    Part of Twitfords talk about his life with Oxfam in Ethiopia.

    “I talked with farmers scratching a living from land that looked like a desert to me. I spoke with farmers who had walked off the land and needed food aid to survive, and others who had also walked off the land but with loans from the micro-finance fund had set up small businesses including a bar, a furniture workshop and a chicken farm.”

    Just perfect – The socialists arrive with the donations and the first thing the famers forced off their land start is – A BAR.

    Why the hell not – you can imagine the thought process – ok, we’ve got all these idiots putting people on the benefit (read the micro-finance fund), of course we need a Bar. Probably served TUI beer. A bit like our beneficiaries really. Why feed the kids when you can get pissed care of the state or someone else.

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  9. Manolo (14,161 comments) says:

    The delicate Charlie Chauvel always keeps a cool bottle of the fine La Grand Dame champagne in the glove compartment of his modest Mercedes Benz.

    Ah, the joy of living in working-class Oriental Bay.

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  10. muncha1 (20 comments) says:

    Completely agree with your sentiments DPF but in all seriousness, Young Nats Southern Region Policy Chair, Varsha is doing it and she’s doing a pretty amazing job fundraising and, I hate to advertise, but we’re pretty proud of her.

    Can donate here https://www.livebelowtheline.com/me/varshasingh

    And for the record, as at 1.34pm, she’s raised more than the whole Labour team combined. I reckon that’s worth chucking a few dollars at.

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  11. Raphael (88 comments) says:

    @wtfunz “Just perfect – The socialists arrive with the donations and the first thing the famers forced off their land start is – A BAR.

    Why the hell not – you can imagine the thought process – ok, we’ve got all these idiots putting people on the benefit (read the micro-finance fund), of course we need a Bar. Probably served TUI beer. A bit like our beneficiaries really. Why feed the kids when you can get pissed care of the state or someone else.”

    I remember visiting Namibia in 1998. A place my folks and I stopped at in the middle of the desert had locals selling semi-precious stones, crystals and the like on the side of the road. They were had a high price on their merchandise (worth it, there were some stunning geods) but they would have given us the lot for food. They had plenty of bottle stores around but nowhere to buy food…..

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  12. jgw739 (26 comments) says:

    Uh-huh. $2.25 a day, eh? Obviously not purchased from an NZ supermarket then.

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  13. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    I would not have thought it was as confusing as all that, DPF?
    If beneficiaries can cut their expenditure while increasing their income, they will be better off. And labour are all about beneficaries being better off, yeah?

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  14. East Wellington Superhero (1,139 comments) says:

    What a clusterfuck. What does Labour stand for? Who’s running the show? Why isn’t Shearer firing people?

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  15. Jimmy Smits (246 comments) says:

    At least they’re doing something for world poverty – I certainly don’t see DPF living on $2.25 a day. If anything, all he does is brag about how much wine he drinks every year, no wonder he has weight issues. The perfect contrast to starving African children.

    [DPF: 20 demerits. I think they’re doing something for their own profile more. Maybe you missed my $10,000 donation to Fred Hollows Foundation last year. No wonder you are an anonymous coward, as you’d never dare say what you say under your name would you?]

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  16. Harriet (5,199 comments) says:

    If they have to resort to this for votes then Labor are in a right fucken pickle.

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  17. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    Jimmy Smits (147) how has giving money to poor countries world worked in helping to stop world poverty? If giving money could stop world poverty then why has it not done so? It is terribly sad to see poverty but the world needs to take a different approach (not sure what). Africa for example has been given staggering amounts of money yet the poverty there is still so bad. I would hate to know how it has been used (or misused).

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  18. kowtow (8,929 comments) says:

    Giving “aid” to so called undeveloped countries or whatever we’re meant to call them,only enriches their already rich and corrupt elites. makes the giver feel good though.

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  19. Mark Hubbard (7 comments) says:

    As I’ve already said on Twitter, it would be far more useful if these same politicians went out and ran a business for a year, employing at least four staff. They could start their year in May, just in time for completing their multi-rate FBT calculations. Then they might learn something useful about the real world that pays for the world of welfarism they’ve created.

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  20. wtfunz (133 comments) says:

    @ Cunningham – so true. But, just ask Twitford, its given the Ethiopians Bars. They must be happy.

    Raphael – I see your point but i think you missed mine. Starving people, famine, disease, death – our solution – throw money in – result – A BAR. You have to see the irony surely. You then have to draw the parrallels with New Zealand.

    Didn’t a wise man once say – Give a man a fish,you’ll feed him for a day – teach a man to fish, he’ll eat for a life time.

    We need to “teach’ people to work – not funding their rooting, drinking, laying about and asking for more. Solution – you now have to work (teaching them) to get the dole. I suspect the beneficiary numbers will drop pretty quickly when they have to turn up at 7.30 every day to shovel shiiite somewhere.

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  21. Raphael (88 comments) says:

    @wtfunz Actually I was kinda agreeing with you.

    The situation I saw in Namibia, we could have tossed them all our money given them plenty of cash, and it would have been spent on booze….

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  22. Manolo (14,161 comments) says:

    You are missing the feel-good factor all do-gooders aspire to experience. Almost Nirvana to them.

    They want to believe they are making a difference donating to the poor and illiterate masses while sipping Chardonnay from the comfort of home. It’s the same all over the world.

    Final word: Africa, the true lost continent. A write-off, actually.

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  23. MH (830 comments) says:

    Politicians to run a business for a year! Hell we gave Helen the keys to world’s biggest OP shop the Beep’n UN and what has she achieved? I think Shearer may be doing a swap soon.
    They don’t turn up,even for home detention,because there is nothing in place to act as a stick or disincentive,truancy officers around schools can tell you that. The system would fall apart if absentees were tracked down and dealt with by the courts. The only way for the courts to keep on operating is to ignore recalcitrants and let them fall into the warrants at large vacuum.

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  24. wtfunz (133 comments) says:

    :) – Gothca Raffa.

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  25. dime (10,207 comments) says:

    Dime could live on $2.25 if he wanted to but umm fuck that :)

    I bought a nice rib eye from my butcher for tonights dinner. I think it was 9 bucks. Big sucka :D

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  26. Akaroa (612 comments) says:

    Hey, come on DPF! You went a bit over the top with your punitive response to ol’ Jimmy Smits at 1.55 didn’t you?

    Crikey, all he did was make what was, admittedly, a somewhat stinging remark, in response to which you could have demonstrated your disdain – (if that’s what you felt) – by studiously ignoring it. It wasn’t as if he used offensive swear-word-type language.

    (Any printed rules on required posting protocols on these pages are there?)

    [DPF: Yes, there are policies on the homepage at the top left. Smearing the blog owner is lucky to get only 20 demerits]

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  27. Muzza M (294 comments) says:

    Is it possible they all might starve to death this week, and if so could we get other labour politicians and green politicians, and for that matter some national politicians to follow suit.

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  28. Kevin (960 comments) says:

    Akaroa he’s just being kind. If Smits stops wasting time on the blog he might get some help to face reality.

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  29. RightNow (7,014 comments) says:

    Haha, it’s true. https://www.livebelowtheline.com/me/varshasingh has raised more than Grant Robertson, David Parker, Jacinda Ardern, Annette King and Phil Twyford all added together.

    Proof that one young Nat is worth more than 5 Labour MP’s.

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  30. Komata (1,220 comments) says:

    Cunningham

    Re: ‘I would hate to know how it has been used (or misused).’

    Sadly in many of the African states, all ‘in-bound’ aid monies have to go in via the state banks where-in it ‘mysteriously’ disappears, to re-emerge in Geneva, Lucerne or the Caymans (or, at least the bit that has survived the various ‘milking s’ en-route does). On its re-emergence it has (equally-mysteriously), changed its ownership as well and is now under another owner who will invariably have a high profile within the country for which it was intended, and who will, of course deny all knowledge about anything as outrageous as ‘corruption’ and ‘fund divergence’.

    The ‘overlord’ then pleads poverty and it’s ‘rinse, spin and on with the ‘washing’ cycle’ ad nauseum, ad infinitem.

    Yet if the ‘donors’ see sense and discontinue the ‘cycle’ then they are ‘de-listed’, their employees harassed and the organisation forced out. For such despots, aid-agencies are the embodiment of C.T Barnum’s phrase , ‘There is a sucker born every minute’ and to them the west (which is where most of the aid comes from) is the equivalent of a very large all day sucker’

    Hope this helps to explain the situation; sadly it won’t change any time soon.

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  31. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,760 comments) says:

    What a joke. Isn’t the former boss of these Labour MPs now the Poverty Tsar at the UN? Not much of a vote of confidence in her work if these MPs have to pull a stunt like this.

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  32. RF (1,487 comments) says:

    Watch out OECD rank 22 kiwi. . Do not diss the evil one. Soon you will hear the sound of beating wings and a dark shadow will fall over you….. Cover your throat.

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  33. Longknives (4,949 comments) says:

    Dime- Tried the 1kg of Rib Eye from Jervois Steak House in Herne Bay??
    Longknives recommends it..That’s some good eating for a growing lad!

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  34. questions (209 comments) says:

    I hear they will be surviving on stewed kittens and barbecued babies alone…. BOOOO HISSSSS!

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  35. jcuk (754 comments) says:

    As with earlier exercises like this it is a silly propaganda exercise because anybody with an ounce of common sense knows it falls down with sudden emergencies etc and the cost replacing this which wear out not this week but next week.
    Doesn’t affect my thoughts about Labour just confirms they are a hopeless clueless mob.

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