Herald Digipoll on Brown

March 20th, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

will find it tough to be re-elected Mayor of Auckland, according to a newHerald-DigiPoll survey.

Only 22.7 per cent of the people questioned in this month’s poll said they would vote for Mr Brown in the 2016 elections; 57.7 per cent said they would not. The other 20 per cent said they did not know or did not vote in local body elections.

Brown would be an idiot if he stands again. It is very difficult to see how he could be re-elected.

The poll suggests women and the elderly were particularly upset by revelations about his extramarital affair and undeclared hotel stays.

That women probably because of what they saw as a power imbalance, with the mistress being a much younger girl who was a Mayoral appointee.

However, Mr Brown can take some comfort from the survey, which found 51.6 per cent of respondents believed he could still be an effective advocate of Auckland’s interests for the remainder of this three-year term.

When asked if the mayor should have resigned last year after revelations of his misbehaviour, 50.2 per cent said yes and 37.7 per cent said no. A further 12.1 per cent did not know.

This is a reversal of the result of a Herald-DigiPoll survey taken a few days after the affair became public last October.

At the time, 51 per cent of Aucklanders said he should stay and 39.5 per cent said he should resign.

The details in the report about all the hotel stays, is probably why the mood has changed.

Lawyer and feminist commentator Catriona MacLennan said the poll result reflected that women do not believe that Mr Brown’s affair was a private matter and could see he used his powerful position to obtain sex from a young woman.

“Many New Zealand women have encountered this behaviour in their own working lives.

“I and other women wish there was greater condemnation and consequences for such behaviour so that it becomes less prevalent in future,” Ms MacLennan said.

While the affair was consensual, the fact Bevan was a Mayoral appointee and he helped get her a job while trying to start a relationship with her, means it was not a private matter.

The poll of 248 Auckland voters was taken between March 6 and March 16. Of those, only 31.3 per cent voted for Mr Brown last year.

248 is a very small sample size.  That’s a 6.2% margin of error. The breakdowns by gender and age are even bigger. The gender data would have a 8.8% margin of error and the age one could be as high as a 12.4% margin of error. So I wouldn’t put too much faith in them.

Also the fact that only 31% of the sample say they voted for Brown could be significant, as more than that actually did vote for him. However we don’t know if that 31% is of all Aucklanders or of Aucklanders who actually voted. Also asking people who they voted for last time doesn’t always get reliable data as people often claim they didn’t vote for someone who has since disgraced themselves, even if they did.

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21 Responses to “Herald Digipoll on Brown”

  1. secondcumming (92 comments) says:

    Brown is a disgusting reprobate without one redeeming feature…..along with thousands of other Aucklander’s, I am embarrassed to have someone like this as Mayor of the city! In the name of God – GO!!!!

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  2. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    He is scum- Not one inch of moral fibre in the sleazy little creep….
    I almost puked when I saw him spouting off that Aucklanders had ‘forgiven him’ and ‘moved on’…

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  3. Rich Prick (1,635 comments) says:

    The correlation between Brown’s fortune with women and Labour’s is interesting. His only redeeming feature is that he is tarring Labour with his special kind of ugly.

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  4. virtualmark (1,522 comments) says:

    women probably because of what they saw as a power imbalance, with the mistress being a much younger girl who was a Mayoral appointee

    women do not believe that Mr Brown’s affair was a private matter and could see he used his powerful position to obtain sex from a young woman. “Many New Zealand women have encountered this behaviour in their own working lives. I and other women wish there was greater condemnation and consequences for such behaviour so that it becomes less prevalent in future,” Ms MacLennan said.

    Yes, she was a younger women, and yes, she was a Mayoral appointee. But I don’t get a sense that Bevan Chuang fought PDB off. And I suspect she saw the affair as an opportunity to get more than a quickee in the Ngati Whatua room.

    So I don’t buy the “poor young girl taken advantage of” line. Naive yes. Innocent no.

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  5. davidp (3,558 comments) says:

    >“Many New Zealand women have encountered this behaviour in their own working lives.”

    Brown had no reason to meet with Bevan alone. She should have been accompanied by at least the chair person of her advisory group, or the entire group. The only reason to arrange to meet with her alone was to hit on her. Bevan was stupid enough to agree, but the fact remains that female workers have a right to do their jobs without creepy old men arranged “encounters” designed to hit on them.

    What about all the female Auckland Council workers who have been invited to meet with Brown over the years, found that it was actually a poor excuse for Brown to leer at them and try and score, and went away feeling a bit disgusted at Brown’s seedy antics. I hope that Auckland Council don’t let him meet with female staff alone these days, and have at least a second female employee from HR in the same room in order to ensure that Brown behaves professionally.

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  6. Nigel Kearney (919 comments) says:

    The mayor is in a position of trust. His wife can’t trust him so why should anyone else? This is true regardless of whether the conduct was private, because trustworthiness is not something you can just switch on and off. Sorry Len, you just don’t get to lie and cheat without political consequences when you have that kind of job.

    Age, wealth or power difference alone should not be an issue though. That is just feminist crap, especially when the supposed victim is 30 years old. If he was not married and she didn’t get paid by the council it would not be an issue.

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  7. OneTrack (2,823 comments) says:

    “Brown would be an idiot ……”

    Well, there’s your problem. He’ll be back.

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  8. trout (921 comments) says:

    This is just another dilemma for the Labour Party. Brown will run again because the guy is so deluded he cannot help himself. Do the Labour party disown him (and thus make a judgement on his behaviour, something they have avoided so far), or have him run on their ticket and lose. If they put up an alternative candidate from the Left the socialist vote will be split between Brown and the Labour hopeful leaving the way clear for a Right wing mayor to be elected.

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  9. Judith (8,460 comments) says:

    The problem is that Len has been regarded as a Leech among women who have dealt with him, for years. So much so that his behaviour has become ‘normalised’ to many, who just expect it, shurg their shoulders and look at what else he offers.

    The next election is a long time away for Brown, and he has plenty of time to make up ground – If he succeeds at anything in the next couple of years that is advantageous to Aucklanders, he does still have a chance. Many that were initially enraged have lost that passion and are becoming a bit blaze. Those that are asked in polls can say they wouldn’t vote for him, but if there wasn’t another likeable candidate, he may very well get in on the ‘better the devil you know’ aspect.

    He should never have got where he is, he’s always been suspect – and that’s always been known – so now he is a little more suspect ?

    Let’s not forget NZers love the underdog – if there is too much pressure, too much criticism, too much picking on him – it may very well work the opposite and people will feel sorry for him – there are already signs of some feeling that way by the constant campaign against him -

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  10. OneTrack (2,823 comments) says:

    Judith – ” and look at what else he offers.”

    Maybe you could help me out on what else he offers. Ok, he has raised rates. He wants to add more taxes. He spends ratepayers money. On what, he doesn’t know. He just spends it. Can he be trusted with a credit card? Apparently not, but he is “trusted” with the unlimited finance of greater Auckland ratepayers.

    He seems to have the classic lefty Santa Claus problem and wants to give people whatever they ask for. The words, “no we can’t afford that” are just not part of his vocabulary. Meanwhile the city’s debt just keeps climbing and climbing. I guess the next council will have to clean up the mess.

    He obviously doesn’t care about What happened to Kaipara and Detroit. They had people who wanted to leave a legacy too. They left a legacy all right.

    Might be time for the original councils to secede from the union. Sorry Rodney, this was a mistake.

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  11. lastmanstanding (1,241 comments) says:

    Lets keep on reminding everyone who will vote in September that loopy Len Brown is a long time member of the Labour Party. Let no one forget this.
    He is a typical 2 faced Labour Party member hypocrite like all the rest of them. Same as Cunliffe et al.
    If you vote for Labour you will be getting a Government of Loopy Len Brown lookalikes.

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  12. Peter (1,673 comments) says:

    Brown would be an idiot if he stands again.

    But in Brown’s mind, people have “moved on”. So why wouldn’t he stand again? The people love him, according to Len.

    This difficult time just past was probably one of God’s little challenges. Len has risen to that challenge. Len is great, because Len can see he is great.

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  13. Judith (8,460 comments) says:

    @ OneTrack (1,819 comments) says:
    March 20th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    My opinion – he doesn’t offer a damn thing.

    I have disliked the man long before it became fashionable. But it takes all sorts to make up this world, and there are those that think he is just wonderful, some that think he is okay, some that think he is a likable rogue, and some that just vote for him because of their political affiliations. Hence he gets elected, and may even get elected again.

    It wouldn’t be the first time an unbalanced person got to be elected – history of the world is peppered with examples.

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  14. Judith (8,460 comments) says:

    @ Peter

    The thing is, if you have access to the media, and tell people something enough times, they eventually start believing it. Brown has a couple of years to tell the people of Auckland how they are ‘over it’. In that time there is no numerical test to challenge his theory. People will start to believe that others are ‘over it’ so they must get ‘over it’ too – and then Len has won!

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  15. bc (1,355 comments) says:

    virtualmark @ 1.38pm – Agree
    I’m more worried about the debt levels that Brown is racking up. The big concern is that knowing that his time is limited, he will spend, spend, spend on some kind of legacy.

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  16. Steve (North Shore) (4,524 comments) says:

    The Herald have always mentioned the ‘affair’ or possible affairs.
    I could not care less if he was shagging 7 different women, the point missed is Len Brown spent Ratepayer money using other people to cover his spending (who paid the hotel bills, who paid for the second (denied) trip to Honkong).
    He did not declare upgrades, he did an about face on the Ratepayers over the SkyCity issue. The man is not honest.
    Go to Mustangs as much as you like Len, but stop telling lies about Ratepayers money that you spent

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  17. Viking2 (11,281 comments) says:

    OneTrack (1,822 comments) says:
    March 20th, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Might be time for the original councils to secede from the union. Sorry Rodney, this was a mistake.
    ==========================

    this was Labour Policy which was enthusiastically adopted by the Nats when elected. The issue was that none of the Nats had the intestinal fortitude to do the job so it was given to Rodders.
    They then proceeded to twist his arm over minor details like Maari representation.

    So you got what the Nats wanted. Cowards all of them

    And you voted for them.

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  18. JeffW (324 comments) says:

    BC, the brown pile of debt will be his chief legacy, along with a funding pattern that will cause huge grief to whoever has to unwind it.

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  19. lilman (931 comments) says:

    Judith simply stunning comments,seriously are you really on this planet?

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  20. publicwatchdog (2,293 comments) says:

    FYI – I should be hearing back very soon from Auckland Central Police as to the outcome of the four complaints I have filed

    Two against Mayor Len Brown (alleged money-laundering and bribery and corruption),

    One against former Auckland Council CEO Doug McKay for alleged contravention of statute, because the bogus Ernst and Young Report did not follow the due process outlined in s.8 (Compliance) of the Auckland Council Code of Conduct.

    An assault complaint against two Council Officers who tried to forcibly remove me from the CEO Review Committee meeting on 20 February 2014, after I was denied speaking rights by Auckland Councillor Chris Fletcher when I tried to expose new CEO Stephen Town’s conflict of interest by being a member of the unelected, highly powerful private lobby group – the Committee for Auckland (which he purportedly denied, despite my evidence to the contrary).

    Could this have anything to do with the threat to sell my house?

    Gosh – I wonder ………….

    Seems that anti-corruption citizen whistle-blowers in New Zealand have no legal protections whatsoever when trying to expose corruption at local government level.

    High time that changed.

    Fascinating the difference between my treatment as an anti-corruption ‘whistleblower’, defending citizens’ lawful rights to ‘open, transparent and democratically accountable local government, and Minister of Justice Judith Collins, who most definitely has a major conflict of interest in helping to promote a company (Oravida) of which her husband is a Director.

    In my considered opinion as an anti-corruption campaigner – her actions were CORRUPT.

    End of story.

    I get censored, assaulted and now Auckland Council are threatening to sell my house – yet Judith Collins – Minister of JUSTICE gets protected by NZ Prime Minister – shonky John Key – in a similar way to his protection of dodgy John Banks?

    Well – we all know what has happened to the DEFENDANT John Banks ….

    A 10 day trial for electoral fraud, starting on 19 May 2014.

    PS: If the Police chose not to act on my above-mentioned complaints – then there is always the possibility of Graham McCready / NZ Private Prosecution Services Ltd picking up the ball, the same way he did with John Banks.

    Hopefully – that will not be necessary …………

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

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  21. ChardonnayGuy (1,187 comments) says:

    Can’t say I’m either surprised, or particularly sympathetic, toward Brown, given his Council’s reprehensible attitude toward Papatoetoe’s (largely transgender) street sex workers and their support for tiresome, vitriolic and ignorant bigot New Zealand First MP Asenati Lole-Taylor and her similar vendetta.

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