Imperator Fish on media bias

March 8th, 2014 at 12:03 pm by David Farrar

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Dear 3 News,

I wish to express my dismay and disgust at the tone of your political coverage.

I find it astounding that your political reporters continue to find fault with Labour Party politicians, while almost completely ignoring all of the terrible things being done by National. What exactly has Labour done wrong to justify this negative coverage, apart from make a number of terrible blunders? …

How dare Patrick Gower raise questions about the Labour Party! Who does he think he is? Some sort of investigative journalist or something? This has to stop! If 3 News wishes to avoid allegations of bias, then it needs to stop running anti-Labour stories. Please just focus on the facts, which will be the ones we send to you. On that subject, I am sending to you by post a package containing a number of recent Labour Party press releases. Please republish these word for word. Actually, just hold fire on that request. I seem to have mistakenly sent the package to a National Party cabinet minister.

Heh.

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34 Responses to “Imperator Fish on media bias”

  1. iMP (2,383 comments) says:

    TV three. is that a polygamy thing?

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  2. niggly (830 comments) says:

    That’s one well written IF article that I bet the Standard won’t link to!

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  3. Colville (2,268 comments) says:

    Yeah TV3 is biased towards National.
    Yeah that is why they employ Campbell who leans so far left he is horizontal.

    Tho Campbell getting a shellacking by Key was a great piece of TV.
    I am unsure if Campbell meant for it to be quite SO great tho :-)

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  4. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    What a load of shit. That little creep Campbell runs anti-National propaganda nightly . . . along with the effeminate facial expressions.

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  5. stigie (1,164 comments) says:

    Campbell gushes with extreme excitement when he runs any anti-National propaganda !~ “Creep”

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  6. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    @igm – I should point out that the Imperator Fish post is meant to be satirical –

    “I seem to have mistakenly sent the package to a National Party cabinet minister.”

    That’s the giveaway…..

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  7. duggledog (1,554 comments) says:

    Never mind the fact that Bryan Bruce’s ‘Mind The Gap’ documentary (about how NZ is completely f***ed thanks to Roger Douglas & income disparity, let’s go back to full-on socialism etc etc) was screened 3 days out from the election.

    This veiled attack on National – or at least right wing politics – clearly had nothing at all to do with news & current affairs. Who programmed it? Who gave it the green light? Why did they put it in prime time three days from the polling booth? Was it a coincidence?

    Doubt it

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  8. David Garrett (7,270 comments) says:

    Bring back Shearer I say!!

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  9. MT_Tinman (3,184 comments) says:

    David Garrett (4,845 comments) says:
    March 8th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
    Bring back Shearer I say!!

    Why? Cunners is doing an excellent job.

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  10. OneTrack (3,088 comments) says:

    Jacindas turn

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  11. srylands (410 comments) says:

    I know everyone bats for their own team but I cannot fathom The Standard line that TV3 news (especially) and the media in general is a right wing “neoliberal propaganda machine”. Surely there are some people with a brain at The Standard that think, “OK we may be going OTT here” but no… they all say “yeah yeah”. It must be some kind of mass hysteria where all reason leaves the group.

    It is disturbing.

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  12. SW (240 comments) says:

    Srylands – do you bit think the exact same thing can be said about this site and left wing media bias?

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  13. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    I’ve never understood how drinking a glass of milk is a far more heinous crime than misplacing your secret donations! :)

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  14. stigie (1,164 comments) says:

    From what you read over at the Stranded, everyone is against them Srylands, yes even TV3 according to them.

    No wonder they are doing piss poor in the polls, they accuse everyone of bias that does’nt suit their way of thinking.

    Pathetic lot really !~

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  15. Manolo (13,739 comments) says:

    It must be some kind of mass hysteria where all reason leaves the group.

    Is the effeminate Lynn Prentice suffering from PMS?

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  16. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    Afternoon Minus! :)

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  17. PhilP (163 comments) says:

    What does afternoon minus mean Johnboy? would love to know, i’m a fan!

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  18. RF (1,396 comments) says:

    Johnboy. Just shot minus in the arse for you.

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  19. alwyn (424 comments) says:

    I imagine that if Cunliffe was, by some dreadful chance, to win the election his acolyte Greg Presland might try and persuade him to do what Micky Savage did in 1937. Greg seems to admire Savage so much he even uses his name as a pseudonym on “The Stranded” and the real Savage’s views on the MSM are no doubt something he would find admirable.

    “In 1937 Prime Minister Michael Joseph Savage set up an Official News Service, under which all radio news bulletins were to be compiled and issued from the Prime Minister’s Department. Radio news only became largely independent of political control with the establishment of the New Zealand Broadcasting Corporation (NZBC) in 1962.”

    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/media-and-politics/page-1

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  20. srylands (410 comments) says:

    “Srylands – do you bit think the exact same thing can be said about this site and left wing media bias?”

    No. Well I’ll speak for me rather than Kiwiblog as a collective which would be inappropriate. I think the MSM is slightly left leaning with J Campbell and National radio more so. My major complaint with the media is poor quality rather than left wing bias.

    So while I think 3 news and current affairs is slightly left, and has some bias against the Government I am not hysterical about it. The Standard comment that TV3 is a “neoliberal propaganda machine” is both laughable and hysterical, and disturbing because it reveals flawed thinking. Just like some of The Standard’s leading lights are anti-vaccine crusaders. That reveals deeply flawed thinking about other matters.

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  21. David Garrett (7,270 comments) says:

    SW: I can see why you would say that: the lefties say the MSM is biased against them, and those on the right claim it’s biased against us.

    I suggest you think about specific examples of left vs. right polis getting into hot water, and the reaction of the MSM thereto. I of course am intimately familiar with my own case, and that of Darren Hughes a month or two later.

    My case: offence – a thirty year old false application for a passport which was never used for any purpose. The Judge found that as a fact, which is why I got a discharge without conviction. But a serious offence nonetheless, to which I had no choice but to plead guilty.

    Media reaction: Camped outside my house for ten days; interviewing everyone they could find to make me out as some demonic figure, including teachers at my childrens’ school, my own high school headmaster, and guys I’d been to school with who now live in Australia. Front page news for a week, including the NZ Herald speculating graphically – on the front page no less – on how I may have looked when I made the false application.

    Darren Hughes’ case: Offence – alleged attempted sexual violation of an 18 year old youth (“a grown man” said the left, “a teenager” said the right) who was found running naked down a street near Hughes’ flat in the early hours of the morning after “something” happened there.

    Media reaction:Well…what? Can you remember? Hughes apparently went to ground at Paul Henry’s beach house…no staking that out, no attempt at interviewing Hughes; no attempt that I ever saw to interview the man/teenager even after the announcement that Hughes would not be charged.

    If you have a similar pair of left/right cases, and can remind us how the MSM handled them, I would be interested to hear it.

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  22. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    Minus is my stalker PhilP.

    He/She has no life other than giving downticks to every one of my erudite comments.

    Even though I am mortally hurt by this I keep commenting as I feel I am assisting with Minus’s therapy and one day he/she will assume a better place in the great panoply of humanity! :)

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  23. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    Make sure you always pull the curtains before you turn the light on DG and never open the door without turning out the porch light first!

    Nosti could be lurking anywhere! :)

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  24. PhilP (163 comments) says:

    Ah ha Johnboy. May be he/she has a fantasy going on about you lol

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  25. stigie (1,164 comments) says:

    Johnboy, sounds like you have been getting these unwanted down ticks only since you parted your romance with Nasska ?

    I think its a disgrace !~

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  26. David Garrett (7,270 comments) says:

    Johnboy: I think I have said here before…if I could goad that prick into doing something which would get him recalled to continue serving his sentence I would be well pleased… I should make it plain I would like him to do something to ME that get’s him recalled…certainly wouldn’t want him hurting yet another innocent…He must have the hide of a rhino coming here….even with “little Jude” to defend him…

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  27. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    Nasska and I are still good friends as far as I know stigie! :)

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  28. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    I have always thought that a justice system that doesn’t do to the perps what they have done to their victims is just a travesty of a justice system DG. Unfortunately we have far to many do gooders like Judith who live in their silly little dream world.
    The $100,000 a year we waste on shit would be far better spent on our brightest and best student’s rather than keeping useless trash alive in state of the art prisons.
    A hole in the ground at Waiouru surrounded by an electric fence would be good enough accommodation for all of them. What the weather didn’t take care of the rest of the scum would. Survivors could be shot! :)

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  29. DJP6-25 (1,387 comments) says:

    Are the MSM biased? Do ducks swim? Is the pope a Catholic? Do bears use the woods as a bathroom?

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  30. niggly (830 comments) says:

    The Standard comment that TV3 is a “neoliberal propaganda machine” is both laughable and hysterical, and disturbing because it reveals flawed thinking.

    By association it must be disturbing for the likes of John Campbell to be called a “right-winger and neo-liberal”!

    Campbell to partner: “OMG dear I have just had the most terrible nightmare again, I dreamt that I was turning into a right-winger and supported Roger Douglas …. Grrrrr F-you guys at The Standard for causing this”! :-)

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  31. SW (240 comments) says:

    srylands and DG – thanks for responding. Hopefully you both get a chance to come back to this thread.

    Srylands: Well I’m sorry but you can’t make a generalised comment about the standard (to which I agree) but then only speak for yourself here at Kiwiblog. I stand by my point, I think both sides claim that the media is hijacked against them when the reality is much more complex.

    I don’t think 3 is left leaning (think about it, why would it be?), but it is sensationalist and somewhat anti-government of the day. Campbell is left, as is National radio, but Patrick Gower like Duncan Garner before him are in no way left.

    As to your other comments, how is thinking by people that rant on about left wing mainstream bias any better? DPF often blogs about media bias (never pointing out right wing bias – again though why would he?) and some of the comments here would have you believe that private media outlets are secret bastions of communist thought…

    David Garett: I don’t won’t to make this post too long, so happy to discuss further if you come back!

    My first point would be there too different types of bias we could mention and your example is but one (personality politics v discussion of policy).

    With respect (and not defending media actions towards you mate), Differences: Your misjudgment was not isolated (much like Cunliffe right now), where as DH’s was his first scandal. Yours was historic, therefore something you could have made public before entering parliament, while DH’s scandal was not something he could front foot. Also, rightly or wrongly there is the hypocrisy angle to your story in regards to your hardline on law and order.

    The biggest difference though was that he resigned straight away and basically gave up any future in NZ politics (and rightfully so). Correct me if I’m wrong, but you didn’t resign straight away? My point is, I think the press had nothing much to gain to drag DH over hot coal. Plus there is the privacy of the innocent young bloke that the media had to respect.

    Perhaps the Benson-pope coverage would be a more appropriate one to compare your case? What are your thoughts?

    IMHO when it comes to personality politics the media can be equally harsh/lenient on left wing or right wing politicians depending on the circumstances – if they think it will sell papers (Len Brown/Winston/ You) they will pursue it hard, if they don’t they won’t (DH/Richard Worth/Nick Smith).

    But when it comes it comes to policy discussion, I think the media can hardly be described as left. Costs have been cut in both public/private media over the past 30 years (My understanding is that there are roughly 1/2 the journalists doing twice the work as 30 years ago). That means political reporting is often entertainment centered, heavily poll focused, and not well placed to look at complicated issues properly.

    It might be moot as to who that benefits from that the most, but who here thinks that Labour’s PR people are as good as Nationals right now? Now I put that squarely on Labour, but it shows in the coverage I think.

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  32. Scott (1,792 comments) says:

    sw:couldn’t disagree more. The media is totally biased towards the left and in particular the progressive world view. And they are totally against traditional conservative values and in particular any hint of Christianity in the public square. The media have championed gay marriage, antismackingand will no doubt uncritically accept euthanasia when Maryann Street introduces it after the election.

    They are against charter schools, sale of state assets and offshore drilling. They are for government paid breakfast in schools and vociferously oppose any attempt to roll back state welfare.

    National survives because it has abandoned traditional morals and has actively championed progressive ideas, gay marriage being the most egregious example.
    Their treatment of Colin Craig often embraces open contempt.

    Anyone who thinks the media in New Zealand is not hopelessly biased towards the progressive left is simply delusional.

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  33. SW (240 comments) says:

    Scott – I think you identify something other than political bias.

    What you identify is that large portions of the public no longer hold traditional conservative values, particularly Christian rightwing conservative values. The media hasn’t necessarily been the leader, but have followed a change in public attitudes to things like gay marriage.

    Regardless, and with respect, I don’t agree with your points on: antismacking law; charter schools; sale of state assets; paid breakfast; rolling back state welfare.

    If you are willing to look objectively at the coverage of each of those issues you will find that there has been a variety of different stances expressed in the media, especially when it comes to editorials.

    I suspect that you might hold certain views on things that don’t accord with that of the ‘average kiwi’ (if there is such a thing).

    The treatment of Colin Craig, like the treatment of Cunliffe, has more often than not been thoroughly deserved.

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  34. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    Just like some of The Standard’s leading lights are anti-vaccine crusaders. That reveals deeply flawed thinking about other matters.

    Meanwhile, on Kiwiblog, posters suggest that The Queen kidnaps small children and that Obama was born of alien blood. Oh, and here comes that guy to waw on about how he was hard done by the MSM because he committed just a ‘small’ crime. Yep, KB and The Standard. Brothers from another mother.

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