Some lyrics from the Kill the PM song

August 27th, 2014 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

I think there is a huge difference between song that have general lyrics about violence, sex and the like – and a song that explicitly expresses a desire to kill a specific person, and to have sex with a specific person. The first is art. The second is creepy.

Here’s some lyrics from the song by .

That’s why I’m going to kill the Prime Minister. I’m going to kill the Prime Minister, because we are down and suffering and the motherfucker ain’t doing nothing. Going to kill the Prime Minister.

One of these days I’m going to fuck your daughter. This poor boy going to make his seed, going to wake up in your girl – well hello Miss Key.

This is beyond creepy. And the creep isn’t one bit remorseful. He has no idea what the impact might be on to hear there is a song about how he wants to fuck her. He thinks that because he doesn’t like the politics of her father, he can target her in a song like this.

There should be consequences for such vile behaviour.

John Armstrong notes:

By yesterday afternoon, @Peace appeared to have realised it had made a rather big mistake. It posted on Facebook, saying the song had been written with the purpose of getting young voters to enrol. Anyone who has listened to the song will know that is an untruth of huge proportions. The lyrics have nothing to do with enrolling to vote. 

What is ironic is that the left leaning Rock Enrol wanted to use Homebrew at concerts to promote voting. I’d say a song implying rape of a young woman will not encourage young people to vote, but just absolutely turn them off politics.

Simon Sweetman also notes:

The band @Peace really screwed up. You only have to click on that Wiki link to see how they’re going to be remembered. They released a song threatening to kill John Key – and then went into a swift panic, explaining that it was really all about mobilising young voters. The rallying cry included reference to sleeping with Key’s daughter. It wasn’t (quite) a statement of rape – but it’s a blunt and nasty use of the term, it’s a leading statement – “one of these days I’m going to f*** your daughter”. It could be very easily construed as a threat, an act of violence.

The sad thing is this was predictable. , formerly of Homebrew, has spent years spewing vile and hatred at . He has rarely been called out for this. In fact one Labour MP raved how much she loves his music. So is it any surprise when he takes his hatred and bile from one level, and ramps it up slightly more so that he moves into glorifying violence against those those politics he disagrees with. Why does he get more extreme? Because he suffers no consequences for his behaviour. NZ on Air carry on giving him taxpayers money (which is ironic as his song is all about how he gets nothing from the Government!).

UPDATE: Psycho Milt at No Minister spells it out for those who think it is just a song:

If you’re thinking he didn’t say he was going to rape her, you’re missing the point.  Here’s the rape culture involved:

1. The most obviously rapey bit is that whatever interest or distinct lack of interest Stephanie Key might have in letting this ambulatory excrement within touching distance of her apparently isn’t relevant from his point of view.

2.  The less obvious, but far worse, rapey bit is the matter of why this turd-on-legs wants to fuck Stephanie Key – not because of her appearance, her personality or any of the other, mundane, trivial reasons two people might fuck.  No, the reason he wants to fuck her is he thinks squirting semen in her would be a suitable gesture of contempt for her father.  That’s rape culture right there, folks. Attitudes to sex and to women don’t get much more poisonous than this – quite an achievement for a self-proclaimed Green voter…

Can’t have put it better nyself.

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58 Responses to “Some lyrics from the Kill the PM song”

  1. dime (9,805 comments) says:

    The only consequence should be no more public money.

    Dont really care beyond that. The guy is a loser, everyone knows it.

    Im sure Adern doesnt really like their stuff. Shes just still pretending to be the “young” MP in parliament. Shes hip and cool and does DJ sets lol sad.

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  2. mjw (390 comments) says:

    There is no excuse for this song. But really dpf, trying to pin this on labour? I don’t think so.

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  3. Pete George (23,427 comments) says:

    So is it any surprise when he takes his hatred and bile from one level, and ramps it up slightly more so that he moves into glorifying violence against those those politics he disagrees with. Why does he get more extreme? Because he suffers no consequences for his behaviour.

    I agree.

    This is not similar to the tactics of Cameron Slater over the past few years. He not only got away with a new level of dirty politics, he was able to get away with expanding it – because he suffered few consequences from those politically close to him.

    Until now. Ironically it took someone else doing dirty politics to force those consequences.

    There’s been an entrenched minority in politics who got away with continuing a bullying threatening abusive brand of dirty politics.

    Perhaps it’s time for everyone to re-consider what we need to have a decent democracy.

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  4. Jack5 (5,007 comments) says:

    Close down NZ on Air for fuck’s sake!

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  5. Bob (496 comments) says:

    It’s more likely to have the opposite effect and lead people to sympathise with John Key. It will help drive voters to National. Imagine how it looks to David Cunliffe. Who needs enemies when you have friends like this. Cunliffe himself has denounced the song and the band. If they had real talent they could have thought of something clever or witty to say about Key without being offensive.

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  6. Mighty_Kites (83 comments) says:

    Some excerpts from the conversation between your friends about Nicky Hager:

    “It would be a disaster if they all knew where he [Hager] lived. He may even need police protection”

    “Those Chinese can be very vicious when they lose face … Chop chop for Nicky.”

    Threatening to murder is bad, but not when your mates do it. Right, David?

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  7. RRM (9,772 comments) says:

    In order to avoid confusion with Tom Scott the saxophonist, or Tom Scott the cartoonist, perhaps we should refer to this gentleman as wannabe rapist Tom Scott in all future correspondence…? ;-)

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  8. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    I don’t know why people are giving this guy what he wants, and that is notoriety. He will be getting off on the publicity he has drawn to himself. Clearly he has no measure of decency, and so he craves attention, and no doubt his mates admire the fame (or infamy) given to him for his pathetic act.

    Honestly, the best thing anyone could do, now that attention has been drawn to the crap he’s produced, is to ignore him. Don’t mention him by name, put XXXX (or come up with some suitable title) if you must talk about it, but continuing to feed his lust for attention is playing the game his way! Every time he sees his name or the name of his song, he knows he’s succeeded with his objective. Let the beast starve!

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  9. Rich Prick (1,659 comments) says:

    Oh come now! The song is all about encouraging young people to vote. Dontcha know.

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  10. insider (1,037 comments) says:

    I’ve been heartened by the strong and prominent condemnation that has emerged from all those women’s advocates that have been very concerned about rape culture in recent months. I’m sure Chloe king was one of those gals. Similarly, the Human Rights Commission who quickly put out a release today on attacks on gay people, will no doubt be rushing a release through.

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  11. Rich Prick (1,659 comments) says:

    “Honestly, the best thing anyone could do, now that attention has been drawn to the crap he’s produced, is to ignore him.”

    Damn, where was that good piece of advice when Nick Hager stuck his over the parapet?

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  12. iMP (2,352 comments) says:

    Maybe Patricia Bartlett was on to something. Maybe its time we start calling this stuff out more:

    • violent sexualised songs
    • violent sexualised tv (sponsored by us the taxpayers via NZOA)
    • hoarding vandalism
    • hacking personal emails
    • attack politics via Blogs
    • foul language, name-calling, contempt
    • media bias and factionalism
    • MP rorts, thefts and dishonesty

    If we don’t – then call me old fashioned – but civil life and politics will descend into an unrecoverable sewer.

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  13. kowtow (8,175 comments) says:

    Replace “prime minister ” with any non white racial or ethnic minority/religious group and see the outrage this would cause among the fashionably politically correct.

    The notion too that his daughter is “fair game” worries me from that perspective also. If it had been any other woman (apart from Sarah Palin who they also love to hate) the howls of outrage from the usual suspect feminazis would be enough to put a thousand banshees to shame.

    The hypocrisy is truly outstanding.

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  14. David Farrar (1,883 comments) says:

    Mighty Kites: I know you’re not that stupid, so you are just trying your best,

    One is a private conversation, rather obviously in jest. They did not publicly advocate any violence. They published an address which is in the phone book.

    The other is a song put out specifically to reach people and send a message that John Key so so nasty he should be killed.

    It is like comparing a conversation in a bar between two people, with an advertisement on television.

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  15. davidp (3,574 comments) says:

    When Cunliffe apologised for being a man, this was probably the sort of man he was thinking about. And he should really have apologised for Labour supporting the creepy rapist in the past.

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  16. FeralScrote (182 comments) says:

    Like so many sponsored by NZoA he will disappear into the ether like all the other talent free beneficiaries that NZoA are fond of.

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  17. dime (9,805 comments) says:

    “This is not similar to the tactics of Cameron Slater over the past few years. ” lol did someone get banned from WO?

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  18. Nigel (517 comments) says:

    Somewhere a Labour strategist just pulled the last of their hair out as a Left wing musician goes all in to try & out do a right wing blogger, in one song killing any momentum Hagar had given the left.

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  19. Other_Andy (2,566 comments) says:

    Labour nah.
    The ‘Greens’ are knee deep in this sh!t

    http://www.matthewbeveridge.co.nz/politics/rock-enrol-non-partisan-or-not/

    From destroying billboards to personal attacks you can count on the watermelons….

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  20. Ross12 (1,378 comments) says:

    As I mention on GD. When will we hear or see a comment from Logie & co ??

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  21. Pete George (23,427 comments) says:

    dime – it’ could be a real issue if an apparent early announcement by the Conservatives is an indication – they claim the latest 3 News poll has them up from 2.5 to 4.6% which would likely come off National more than anything.

    Toby Manhire ‏@toby_etc

    @dpfdpf @danylmc not implausible though that Cons could pick up high-moral blue vote post Dirty Politics

    This may or may not be confirmed tonight.

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  22. Rich Prick (1,659 comments) says:

    Ross12, it’s different when … oh you know the rest.

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  23. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ Rich Prick (1,623 comments) says:
    August 27th, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    This is a kid, not an adult. All he wants to know is that people are talking about his music and him. Everytime you mention his name that’s another hit on google – he doesn’t care what you are saying, he wrote it to annoy people.

    Talk about it, by all means, but stop using his name or the name of the song – there would be nothing worse for this brat, than to do a google search, and only get a couple of hits. He’d hate it.

    If you don’t believe me, take the PM’s example. He was reluctant to talk about it, to give it any acknowledgement – because he’s wise. He knows that rapper wanted to annoy him – by showing he wasn’t all that concerned about it, was the biggest insult he could have given to the musician!

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  24. Peter (1,688 comments) says:

    Honestly, the best thing anyone could do, now that attention has been drawn to the crap he’s produced, is to ignore him.

    No Judith.

    The best thing to do is record this for prosperity. When his name is searched in future, this will come up. It will show that words have consequences, so choose your words wisely.

    Free speech is a great thing. The artist can say something he strongly believes. The public can respond, as they are doing now. That is the check and that is the balance. That is how society works.

    Tom Scott of Homebrew and @peace, your words will remain.

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  25. Monty (974 comments) says:

    Let’s name the labour Mp who loved this so called music. Isn’t it jacinda Ardern ? If I’m wrong please correct me. Where is the outcry from the left on rape culture?

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  26. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ Peter (1,660 comments) says:
    August 27th, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    If he was running for politics or any sort of decent job, you’d be right. But this guy is a rapper – music is his business – acknowledgement of his music is his tool to sell himself. Musicians who write controversial songs that are acknowledged by many often end up the most successful. What he’s written won’t matter in the future – all that will matter is that the song was acknowledged by many. In short, your acknowledgement of it proves he has the ability to create stuff that will be noticed. Which is exactly what the music industry wants.

    Believe it or not, this song has probably ensured he will get more work. Sad as that is.

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  27. Redbaiter (8,309 comments) says:

    “The hypocrisy is truly outstanding.”

    Exactly right.

    All who are supporters of NZ’s current progressive culture are complicit in this.

    You made you’re bed. You need to either lie in it and stop whining, or join Redbaiter and others in trying to change it.

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  28. Peter (1,688 comments) says:

    Judith, this band, like most bands, will make SFA.

    The attention he has got through this will not endure and translate into ticket sales as this is New Zealand. The music “industry” in New Zealand is not an industry in the conventional sense, it’s a bunch of beneficiaries, some of whom get lucky offshore, but you can count those on one hand.

    Being noticed is easy. Being forgotten, in the internet age, can be a challenge, so it’s best to choose ones words carefully. I suspect the only thing that will endure into the future for @peace is the online media record of this incident.

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  29. Pete George (23,427 comments) says:

    ‏@patrickgowernz

    3-News Reid Research poll out tonight – all the fallout from “Dirty Politics”… A real shake-up.

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  30. minus (174 comments) says:

    Have media sought a comment from Tania Billingsley – what she thinks of John Key’s body language while answering questions about his daughter, what Tania thinks of Jacinda Ardern’s tastes in entertainment?

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  31. peterwn (3,239 comments) says:

    I wondered whether the song is an ‘objectionable’ publication – see:
    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0094/latest/DLM313407.html?search=qs_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_publications_resel_25_h&p=1

    It does not quite fit – seems the Act should be extended to catch this sort of rubbish.

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  32. muggins (3,341 comments) says:

    If they lived in Russia they would have all been sent to the Gulag archipelago, or somewhere similar. Definitely Siberia.

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  33. Skippytony (15 comments) says:

    ****breathe**** Simple question for our elected members – yes or no answer, on the record.

    “Do you believe that this is acceptable behaviour?’

    Know and understand (and support) the free speech angle, I’m not trying to censor anyone, but, surely, for fucks sake, it is not asking too much of normal decent people to stand up and condemn that which is so clearly wrong?

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  34. Pete George (23,427 comments) says:

    3 News have confirmed Conservatives are up to 4.6% in tonight’s poll and…
    “Without giving too much away – there really has been some fallout from the Dirty Politics saga”.

    http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/conservatives-close-to-parliament-in-new-poll-2014082714

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  35. Kimble (4,443 comments) says:

    This thread only got 7 posts in before Judith commented and killed it.

    That’s a shame.

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  36. Peter (1,688 comments) says:

    The irony is this guy wouldn’t be heard without National handing them our money. He takes our handout, then he insults us with his venomous, infantile sleaze. NZOnAir think he’s an “artist”

    Shut it down. Let his “music” live or die based on it’s own “merits”. I don’t see any reason, at all, why taxpayers should be forced to pay for his verbal abuse set to a drumbeat.

    Who is really “suffering” here? It ‘aint him.

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  37. mikemikemikemike (323 comments) says:

    If you did a find & replace on this story and wrote about Cam Slaters attitude towards people on the left, one could apply the same sentiments towards you and your mates DPF.

    And the song didn’t mention rape – it’s a stretch to suggest that wanting to have sex with someone to piss someone else off constitutes rape.

    FWIW I really would rather just hear some policy, rather than this constant sniping.

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  38. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    Murder and rape.
    The Left world is a deeply creepy one where you can do and say what you like to those you don’t like but howl in outrage if anyone even whispers anything to you that you don’t like.
    Surely everyone on the Left, even Jacinda Ardern in her desperation to look hip, must shudder.
    They will rush to ban and censor Whaleoil but eagerly put this obnoxious band on the public payroll.
    They are abetted by the Herald’s offensive cartoons. Whaleoil worse than ISIS? Really? Or just a threat to the old media?

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  39. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    mike etc
    Of course it is rape they are talking about. Or do you really think a young woman would willingly consent to sex with a creep who wants to kill her beloved father?
    There’s plenty of material for you to read about rape used as a means of political intimidation to instil fear and terror.

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  40. mikemikemikemike (323 comments) says:

    @BeaB – you don’t remember Millie Holmes? Girls have always loved dating guys dads hate. I’m not suggesting JK’s kid would. But it’s not exactly unheard of is it?

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  41. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “If you did a find & replace on this story and wrote about Cam Slaters attitude towards people on the left, one could apply the same sentiments towards you and your mates DPF.”

    Bulshit. DPF has never said any politician should be killed and their daughter raped.

    “And the song didn’t mention rape – it’s a stretch to suggest that wanting to have sex with someone to piss someone else off constitutes rape.”

    Rape Crisis disagrees.

    Face it, some lefty scum bags showed their true colors, and all your doing is the standard “look over there” tactic.

    These rappers are appalling filth who should not be allowed anywhere near impressionable young people. In a just society they would be given five year stints in the army to sort the useless bludgers out.

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  42. mikemikemikemike (323 comments) says:

    I never said DPF said it – but by his own standards, his support of Whaleoil implies a tacit endorsement of it. Certainly many comments on this forum seem to show a more sinister side to the right that would fit in perfectly with the more extreme left.

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  43. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “but by his own standard, his support of Whaleoil implies a tacit endorsement.”

    Bollocks. I support National. That does not mean I agree with every policy or every statement.

    You’re just trying to smear David, nothing more.

    And given the very serious nature of a publicly released song aimed at young people calling for an elected politician to be murdered and his daughter f****d, your arguments could just as easily be said to be tacit endorsement of murder, corruption of the young, and sexual assault.

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  44. mikemikemikemike (323 comments) says:

    I support National too – What I don’t support is a bunch of self righteous blow hards thinking they are better than their opposition because of a difference in their political views. Especially when they are guilty of treating people with as much contempt as they feel they are being treated.

    All DPF is trying to do is dig dirt to wash away the stench of Hagar’s book – throw shit and see what sticks.

    All you are doing is buying into it.

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  45. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Funny how the lefty media found a model wearing Native American headress at a fashion show to be ‘outraged’ about today.
    Like clockwork- Screams and outraged howls of “Racism!” from the usual suspects.. Jeremy Elwood,Tiki Tane etc
    Surely the left aren’t trying to deflect attention from the ‘Rape Rap’??
    Why have none of these people spoken out against @peace??
    *And has anyone asked Adern if they are still her “favourite band”??

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  46. Redbaiter (8,309 comments) says:

    Funny how the lefty media found a model wearing Native American headress at a fashion show to be ‘outraged’ about today.

    It’s their dialectic Marxism strategies.

    They are PURPOSEFULLY inconsistent and hypocritical.

    And if you don’t know how they’re working it, you’re a victim of it.

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  47. Judith (8,532 comments) says:

    @ Pete George (23,254 comments) says:
    August 27th, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    How wonderful – Colin Craig and binding referenda in parliament.

    I must get started on my petition to have income tax made optional and paid annual leave increased to 12 weeks per annum. I have a feeling I’ll get enough signatures to force a referendum!

    Of course in keeping with the blog so I don’t get accused of not keeping on topic – perhaps I could write a rap song about it, I’ve never been a rapper but from this example it doesn’t seem to require any talent.

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  48. G152 (272 comments) says:

    The pillock has stuffed his future employment prospects.
    Even McDonalds have standards for their chipists

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  49. RightNow (6,968 comments) says:

    Well, well, someone seems to be a bit recalcitrant now and the @peace wikipedia page has had a little editing.

    Earlier today it read:

    At Peace (stylised as @peace) is a New Zealand hip hop group. In 2014 they released a song which included lyrics threatening to kill John Key and have sex with his daughter.[1][2]

    And now the second sentence has been deleted.

    Of course there’s always the revision history:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=At_Peace&direction=prev&oldid=622979544

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  50. FeralScrote (182 comments) says:

    Deafening silence from the rape culture proponents as always, when the only culture to actually have a rape culture is the hip-hop/cRap culture .

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  51. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    @ Mikemike

    “What I don’t support is a bunch of self righteous blow hards thinking they are better than their opposition because of a difference in their political views.”

    Bollocks. This about how far into the gutter the Left are prepared to go, and on that score the Right IS better.

    “Especially when they are guilty of treating people with as much contempt as they feel they are being treated.”

    So National have burned effigies of Cunliffe? They have had rallies and got people to chant “F**K David Cunliffe? Theu have released songs calling for the death of Cunnliffe?

    No?

    Didn’t think so.

    “All DPF is trying to do is dig dirt to wash away the stench of Hagar’s book ”

    Are you seriously dumb enough to believe anything in Hager’s book?

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  52. KevinH (1,196 comments) says:

    Homebrews lyrics are vile and offensive, essentially glorifying rape and murder. The solution is to have their music banned because of it’s anti social content , public funding cut with no chance of anymore and demand a public apology.

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  53. heathcote (104 comments) says:

    mike x 4

    Latest Tui billboard “I support National too” Yeah right.

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  54. OneTrack (2,973 comments) says:

    KevinH – “Homebrews lyrics are vile and offensive, essentially glorifying rape and murder. The solution is to have their music banned because of it’s anti social content , public funding cut with no chance of anymore and demand a public apology.”

    Except, because he was attacking John Key and threatening Key’s daughter, all we hear from the left is … crickets. Anything for the cause comrade. Probably celebratory Chardonnay’s back at headquarters for “sticking it to the man”.

    And will the public servants aka Labour/Green supporters at New Zealand On Air give this guy a grant next year – damn right they will, probably with a bonus for services to socialism.

    I guess this means Pete George is right, there is a rape culture – a left-wing rape culture.

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  55. Honeybadger (195 comments) says:

    Appalling! That is the first word of many I thought of to apply to the toe rags who think it is fine to give this ‘sh**’ any air time. I see they have had Government ‘grants’ in the past, well I hope they learn to whistle in the future. Why havent the police been involved? That ‘sh**’ is a clear case of threatening to kill and threatening sexual violence and nothing else.

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  56. Inthisdress (185 comments) says:

    I’d like to express my heartfelt endorsement of psycho milt’s observation. On occasion I have argued against the notion of ‘rape culture’ as a blanket description of our society. But also that were it the case, then ‘rape culture’ would be a ‘norm”.
    Milt’s outrage endorses the necessary thing- that in a democracy like ours (and one of the reasons for a democracy like ours) persuasion using terror, violence and threats should be rejected, on the grounds that it transcends party-politics and goes to the heart of our actual culture (although Foucault might disagree).
    Psycho Milt’s response, in a way, supports the idea that as a collective, there is no place for what has been labelled ‘rape culture’ here.

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  57. Reboot (100 comments) says:

    The difference between the left and the right is that the left would have organised a rape culture protest against this by now and got the media’s attention.

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  58. Inthisdress (185 comments) says:

    At the same time over onDimpost not so long ago, there was a practical hysteria about ‘rape culture’ with people in a pissing contest to see who be be more pc. Later, Danyl expressed his disgust at slater and Lusk “these people are the enemy” “disgusting” etc.
    And yet, when a self-confessed Green voter releases a track advocating killing the PM and raping his child?
    Silence. OH, I tell a lie, he’s asking for advice about which tv to buy.

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