Vote Compass

August 18th, 2014 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

There is a NZ political compass test called Vote Compass, hosted by One News.

Unlike On the Fence which returned some bizarre results, these results seem far far more accurate. It is a way more scientific test. To be fair this is because they had much greater resources.

So well worth doing, and posting your responses. Mine were:

  1. ACT 71%
  2. Nat 66%
  3. United Future 59%
  4. Labour 43%
  5. NZ First 37%
  6. Maori 37%
  7. Greens 27%
  8. Mana 20%

The Conservatives and Internet Party did not co-operate.

So overall it is an excellent resource.

However I was surprised to find out the Electoral Commission is a sponsor of the project, and worse put taxpayer money into developing it.

At the end of the day, this is a site that basically tells people who they should be voting for. It is implicit, not explicit, but when it tells you the parties you most agree with, that is helping those parties.

I think there is no way the Electoral Commission logo should appear on a site, which is implicitly telling people how to vote. It critically undermines their independence and neutrality. I think their involvement is a serious failure of judgment.

Again I think the site is excellent and a great resource. But that is a different issue to the neutrality of the Electoral Commission.

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43 Responses to “Vote Compass”

  1. Albert_Ross (270 comments) says:

    Not so sure about that DPF. Surely the public interest is not only that people should vote but that they should vote in an informed way that actually does reflect their true preferences?

    [DPF: But this is just a quiz where people have said we think this means you should vote this way. It is subjective, not objective]

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  2. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    “I think there is no way the Electoral Commission logo should appear on a site, which is implicitly telling people how to vote.”

    I agree.

    Given that the MSM are already in the pocket of the left-wing it wouldn’t surprise me if the supposed-to-be-neutral Electoral Commission were actually left-leaning as well. In fact, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t, given that the people there (like almost everyone in the country) are a product of our socialist education system.

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  3. Rightandleft (658 comments) says:

    I think it’s a great resource though and I’m using it with my older students, especially Year 13s who will be able to vote this time, to get them interested in the election and voting. I think it is especially good because they haven’t really given too much thought about it before and just assumed they were on the left. Thus many were surprised by their right or centrist results.

    My top results were: 1. National 65% 2. ACT 59% 3. UF 56%. My lowest were Greens and Mana down in the low 30s. This is much more in line with my views than the silly On The Fence one.

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  4. labrator (1,890 comments) says:

    Much much better than on the fence, who also had a little whine over the poor feedback.

    Results: NP71%, ACT64%, UF64%, LAB47%, NZF45%, MRI44%, GRN22%, MNA22%

    Interesting also was:

    Parties that declined to participate:
    Internet Party, Conservative Party of New Zealand

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  5. MT_Tinman (3,092 comments) says:

    ACT 72, Nat 65

    Not a surprise but I did have trouble on the question re leaders.

    Had to give Slient T a 5 – I love what he is doing for the National-led government :-)

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  6. In Vino Veritas (138 comments) says:

    What made me laugh was that the Greens are to the left of the Mana Party! Who would have thought that the Marxist’s could be out Marxist’ed!!

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  7. dubya (226 comments) says:

    ACT 84%, Greens 16%, Anal Mana 14%. Nice to have my sanity confirmed.

    A little annoyed I couldn’t give Russel Norman a minus rating, though. Zero was too kind.

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  8. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    Yes, much better than on the fence.

    Top three results: ACT 80% Nats 69% UF 62%

    I suspect that if the Conservatives had participated They would have been in the top three, given the questions about abortion and the anti-smacking law.

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  9. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    pure drivel, a prolonged crap probably dreamed up by Bryce Edwards.

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  10. Chuck Bird (4,820 comments) says:

    My results are no suprise but should not have been done by the electoral commission.

    NZF 63%, NP 59%, ACT 57%, UF 55%, LP 47%, MP 42%, GR 19%, mana 19%

    I will not just case my vote on a party’s policy but take into account the party being able to impliment them.

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  11. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    It would not be so bad if the electoral commission could lead overseas voters on how to vote, but no,

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  12. Fletch (6,230 comments) says:

    I tried it yesterday morning, and ended up slightly right of center (which was not unexpected).

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  13. smttc (721 comments) says:

    ACT 77% NP 66%.

    It seems I am more socially conservative than I thought.

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  14. dime (9,788 comments) says:

    Act 86, national 62, if 50, nz first 43, Maori 32, labour 31, green 9, mana 8

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  15. freedom101 (490 comments) says:

    I couldn’t understand the question about whether Maori should have more say over their own affairs. Was this Maori individually or collectively? Does ‘yes’ mean that we will have more or less racially divisive laws? Does ‘yes’ imply that individual Maori will have more say over their own lives or that they will have to go to a Maori agency or tribe to access services that non-Maori get elsewhere? This question needs to be rewritten so that it’s clear what is being asked.

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  16. dime (9,788 comments) says:

    It’s a bit weird.. I said I don’t care about abortion, legalise dope, leave the drinking age the same but repeal the smacking law..

    That makes me more socially conservative than any political party??

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  17. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (783 comments) says:

    well its official………..I’m now Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Right………..which is the orginal quote anyway :-)

    National 68
    United 66
    Act 58
    Labour 52
    ….
    Greens 29………..now this is the funny one because I said yes to more DOC funding and rated environment as high -> Greens drop to 26 on my weighted…….one of us have changed and I think its you Greens

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  18. Albert_Ross (270 comments) says:

    OK, so if not the Electoral Commission, then who /do/ we think should provide this sort of advice/information? Do we think the political parties themselves can be trusted to provide unbiased, informative material along the lines “if you think x, then you should vote for us, whereas if you think y, you should vote for this other party”?

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  19. David in Chch (512 comments) says:

    That was interesting. I am slightly socially liberal (check) and slightly fiscally conservative (check). I fit either the National Party or United Future (that was a surprise) to 61 %. Labour, ACT and the Maori Party are in the 40’s. Then Winston First, Greens and Mana. What’s interesting is that when I was asked what I felt was the defining issue for me, I had a long think and decided it was competence to govern. Regardless of their policies, I want someone who is NOT going to f*** it up in a major way. :D

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  20. RRM (9,762 comments) says:

    I ended up economically slightly right, and socially slightly conservative, which surprised me since I wanted to liberalise abortion, dope use and keep the anti-smacking law…

    But I want crims in jail longer, apparently that’s some hardcore conservative sh!t…??

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  21. RRM (9,762 comments) says:

    And :lol: LOL! at Colon, too uptight to participate.

    At least it spares the organisers of this quiz from anxiety he might take legal action over something he doesn’t like about it..?

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  22. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (783 comments) says:

    RRM – haha exactly the same for me on the final position and all of those policies you mentioned…….

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  23. labrator (1,890 comments) says:

    @dime Did you select the weighted option on the last page? It defaults to the unweighted results. Mine changed a fair bit weighted vs unweighted.

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  24. Grendel (987 comments) says:

    So ACT are socially conservative? becuase they want to repeal the anti smacking law, dont care about dope and want criminals to be locked up properly.

    this is a hospital pass to the left. the got the left/right part correct, but the social is rediculous.

    it should be a Liberal/permissive at the bottom end and authoritarian at the top.

    ACT would be closer to the bottom, Greens and Mana still close the top, and national and labour pretty close to each other, both slightly above the middle.

    Using progressive vs conservative makes it seem like the greens penchant for banning everything (except dope) and telling you how to live is soft and fluffy, but ACT wanting to leave you alone to live your own life is conservative and bad.

    this is why the electoral commission should have had nothing to do with it, they now get tarred with using these labels to define parties.

    The greens get a soft serve by not being shown for the authoritarians they are, naming it ‘progressive’ is just a way to soften the blow for the remuera housewives and the idiots who dont actually read policies.

    i got 1% lower than Dime for ACT, probably becuase i answered dont know to the abortion question. becuase the answer is, how the hell should i know, its not for me to decide for someone else.

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  25. flipper (3,922 comments) says:

    Interesting exercise…

    My results were NP 77 ACT 66 UF 42 MAO 45 NZF 42 LAB 35 MAN 20 GRN 18.

    When weighted NATS 78 ACT 72, rest about same

    Middle right of landscape, slightly to Rt of Nats. when weighted.

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  26. mister nui (1,016 comments) says:

    ACT: 79%
    Nat: 55%
    UF: 50%
    Maori: 34%
    Lab: 31%
    Mana: 24%
    Green: 19% – I must have got one or two wrong….

    I also found the question about Maori looking after their own affairs to be a bit confusing – my partner answered both ways and we believe “yes” to be the right answer, based on her position being further to the right when answering with a “yes”.

    I did feel some of the questions were rather politically loaded, but I guess there are many simpletons out there that need them to be such, wouldn’t want them to have to engage brains….

    I gave Turei a 0 and Norman a one – I think she is more damaging to our country than he ever could be – at least he has a brain, even if it is wired ass about.

    Edit: Those were the weighted results.

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  27. Spam (598 comments) says:

    It would be a much better survey if it showed the cost of the various policies.

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  28. flipper (3,922 comments) says:

    CORRECTION

    My score above should have UF 62 not 42.

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  29. goldnkiwi (1,250 comments) says:

    Two points between Act and NAT, perhaps because I rate Jamie Whyte.

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  30. howitis (12 comments) says:

    The interesting thing when looking at the results: ACT must have an enormous disconnect.
    They score very high here yet can’t register even ONE percent in countrywide polling.
    PS: like your comment Grendel.

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  31. Nigel Kearney (960 comments) says:

    ACT must have an enormous disconnect.

    They have an enormous communication problem of some kind because I’d expect them to get around 10% if people voted solely according to policy positions.

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  32. edhunter (535 comments) says:

    72% Nat
    57% ACT
    57% Utd

    As for the immigration question would be interested in an un pc question.
    Should we accept more Muslim immigrants?
    Should we accept more Caucasian immigrants?
    In our secret hearts which we aren’t allowed to publicly display for fear of being labelled racist I’d imagine most would want to see immigrants that integrate almost seamlessly into our society & not immigrants who shun integration & our traditions.

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  33. bc (1,360 comments) says:

    Weighting the results pushed NZ First up quite a bit for me – I rated law and order, education highly, taxes midway and everything else low.
    Weighted results:

    NP 60%, NZF 51%, ACT 49%, LAB 48%, UF 45%, MRI 35%, GRN 29%, MNA 25%

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  34. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    I wonder why the Dotcrim party wasn’t keen? Too focused on utu?

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  35. hj (6,794 comments) says:

    LAB 63% WF 62% GRN 54% MNA 53% NP 52% MRI 47% UF 46% ACT 34%

    And proud of it! How come you others got the questions wrong?

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  36. Dazzaman (1,133 comments) says:

    ACT 61%, NP 61%, UF 59%, NZF 58%, MRI 50%, LAB 49%, MNA 34%, GRN 29%

    Surprisingly in agreement with the Greens on a couple of issues but I suspect for entirely different reasons……such as linking teacher salaries as opposed to reducing class sizes…..my rationale being from an entirely personal viewpoint as my 3rd son is in a special character school with much reduced student/teacher ratio’s & doing bloody well now with the extra assistance time. Also agreed with them on Maori language funding. Of course, diametrically opposed on both economic & moral issues.

    Not a vote changer of course but an interesting exercise…….if it were more indepth the social conservatism score would be far to the right of both Act & National (well, that’s a given seeing the Nat’s are firmly to the left, having effectively abandoned social conservatives).

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  37. hj (6,794 comments) says:

    Wanna see LPrents score!?

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  38. Southern Raider (1,773 comments) says:

    So glad that I was polar opposites to every green or mana position except the DOC funding

    Was strange the green answers to tax. Keep corporate tax the same but screw the fuck out of high income earners

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  39. Southern Raider (1,773 comments) says:

    Was very close between Nats and Act but I just can’t feel any bond with Whyte

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  40. Lindsay Addie (1,311 comments) says:

    My results:

    National = 66%
    ACT = 53%
    UF= 50
    NZF= 49%
    LAB=41%
    MRI= 40%
    MNA=22%
    Green=17%

    In the political landscape came across as a social conservative/economic right.

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  41. V (708 comments) says:

    So first you criticize The Conservatives and Internet Party for not co-operating, and then the Electoral Commission involvement? Maybe the two are related. Good to know there are two parties that don’t wish to be associated with paid TVNZ propaganda.

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  42. ChardonnayGuy (1,195 comments) says:

    The Conservative Party has had three years to get their act together. They were founded in 2011, for heaven’s sake. Why is it that they “cannot” therefore participate? Or is it the case that their policies are not adequately costed or independently evaluated as many *real* fiscal conservatives maintain?

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  43. backster (2,136 comments) says:

    How come Rachel Smalley,Corin Dann, that professor guy, Barry Soper ,Paddy Gower,Edwin Wiley, Red Radio staff and others haven’t revealed how they scored?

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