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May 19, 2006 3:39pm by David Farrar

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The billboards are back! Coming to a city near you today!

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Jeremy

Looking good.
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May 19, 2006 3:56pm
matt

Fantastic
However Labour is good at foreshadowing and I think we may get sum tax cuts when
yes thats right 2008
why 2008?
Its election year
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May 19, 2006 3:59pm
Gale

Yeah well I’m never been a labour supporter as such but can you name one other country in the world that doesn’t owe more than it owns like we do now.. you’ve gotta admit its not a bad thing!

Cheers
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May 19, 2006 4:23pm
tim barclay

I have come around to the view that National must keep the policy debate pressure on the Government continuously. It is not good saving it all up until the last minute. Yes if Labiour take it up good. Move on to the next target and so on right down to the election.
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May 19, 2006 4:37pm
Nigel

Mmm, kind of dodgey advertising, it’ll be interesting to see what it does in the polls, but I’d pick a 2-3% drop. It’s likely to backfire IMHO.
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May 19, 2006 4:50pm
Jeremy

Why would it backfire? At the very least it’ll do nothing.
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May 19, 2006 5:02pm
Labour4ever

Yes it will backfire!, just like everything those backstabbing nats ever touch,,remember shipley (backstabber of the century) LOL hahaha
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May 19, 2006 5:02pm
Chris Auld

Gale: Australia.
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May 19, 2006 5:44pm
PaulL

Gale, off the top of my head I think the countries you would be thinking of would be:
1. Singapore
2. Australia
3. China
4. Japan

I think the ones that are not are:
5. Sweden
6. Denmark
7. France

(note, before people ask for evidence, I made that up, but I am pretty sure I read a newspaper report recently about the Aussie budget in which they claimed no net external debt – which is the same claim Cullen is making?)
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May 19, 2006 5:59pm
reid

National should have a competition on their website: submit the best caption and see it published on a billboard at a location of your choosing. $1 per entry, 1 winner per month. All surplus proceeds go towards other billboards.
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May 19, 2006 7:24pm
Hisself

I’m sure the gnome at the bottom right is the same one as on the billboards of that party who were sure they would win the election last year. Are we meant to laugh, or feel sorry for him?
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May 19, 2006 8:32pm
Robert Mugabe

Now that white farmer gnome… I recognise him. I really do. Is he here now? Did he come with that renegade judge? This neo-colonialist message board is beyond words.
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May 19, 2006 9:14pm
Murray

Rather the Gnome than that wretched orc the red team have.
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May 19, 2006 9:15pm
Sam

Guaranteed, Brash
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May 19, 2006 9:32pm
Jeremy

He’s not New Zealand bashing; he’s bashing the New Zealand government – big difference! Anyway, it’s not possible to have a different policy to the government if you consider this “New Zealand bashing”.
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May 19, 2006 10:17pm
reid

With respect to the gnome comments, if you put a multi-coloured rainbow afro wig on Don, and on Helen, who would look better?

It’s about as relevant as your observations.

But personally, I’d put my money on Dapper Don.
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May 19, 2006 10:29pm
burt

Sensational.
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May 19, 2006 10:56pm
RED PAINT

Looks like an invitation to a graffiti artist to me.
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May 20, 2006 12:34am
JohnD

Don’t print up too many billboards he’s not going to be around long. My votes on Gerry to have one last try before John Key rolls him.
Long live the Don!
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May 20, 2006 12:57am
Frank

Are the signwriters standing by with pictures of John Key to paste over Brash when the inevitable comes around?
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May 20, 2006 10:01am
side show bob

Atleast Don hasn,t been taken to with an airbrush like the Dear Leader.
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May 20, 2006 10:08am
burt

As you say Side Show Bob;

Real policies – real picture.
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May 20, 2006 10:56am
George

Not John Key, surely. He has only been in parliament a short time, and in that time his spokemanship has always been in Finance as far as I know.

The gossip I hear is that Bill English is now well-positioned to make a comeback.
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May 20, 2006 10:33pm
JohnD

Seems the Don is lieing again.
Heard John Keys say 160,000 people on we Willie Jackson’s crap show today. So once again short on the truth again.
And talking about John Keys today on we Willies’ show, his lips moved but nothing was coming out.
It was all sub and no substance.
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May 20, 2006 10:53pm
Michael (The Right Wing One)

You know the Nats are effective when Labour supporters comment on anything but substance of the arguement – so far commentators have suggested it’s Anti-NZ, Brash is finished (or a gnome), the facts in the statement are wrong – but no-one has argued why NZ can’t afford tax cuts. When the billboards came out last year the same attacks, but NAtional surged to a clear lead in the polls.

And good to see National campaigning on it’s money – these billboards would have been within the Parliamentary Rules for state funding.
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May 21, 2006 11:40am
toby1845

Michael – I think you’re correct. Labour are finding it a little difficult to attack the substance of the argument, so they are reverting to type.

Cullen will make it even worse for himself if he gives in and moves on tax now. If he cuts taxes after having told us that conditions over the next few years will make tax cuts unsustainable (or economically damaging), he will show himself to be either:

a. Completely inept as an economic forecaster, or

b. An opportunistic liar.

Actually, thinking about it, there is probably a third option:

c. Both of the above.

As to the suggestions about red paint on the billboards – please, please, please, BRING IT ON! That will only reinforce the message, AND highlight who the tax thieves are.
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May 21, 2006 12:32pm
CH

“The gossip I hear is that Bill English is now well-positioned to make a comeback.”

He has his supporters, but reading today’s herald John Key is the caucus favourite to replace Don:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10382815

English has had his time, and he doesn’t have enough presence to run against Helen Clark (PBUH) again. What’s changed since 2002 to make people vote for him over Clark this time?

John Key admittedly hasn’t been in parliament long, but he seems to be more sure of himself than Don and can handle criticsm without getting upset and defensive.
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May 21, 2006 12:54pm
Michael (The Right Wing One)

Good to see Nats paid for this – especially as Labour paid for ads in the SST out of the Parliamentary Budget!
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May 22, 2006 8:24am
Lance

If these billboards were not going to be effective then why are the lefties shrieking hysterically at them?
Nice tactic from the Nat’s, can Liar-bour afford to burn support up to the next election and hope their bribes will pull them back or will they panic and start selling out now?
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May 22, 2006 11:26am
Red

My interprations are here
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May 22, 2006 11:51am
George

CH says:

“English has had his time, and he doesn’t have enough presence to run against Helen Clark (PBUH) again. What’s changed since 2002 to make people vote for him over Clark this time?”

This is so unfair on Bill English. Last time he was trying to keep a crumbling coalition in power, not replace an existing coalition!

English now has the breadth and depth of experience and years on the ground to communicate policy for the centre as well as the right.

The right time to introduce John Key is when Helen Clark has departed. i.e. Give Bill English at least one election.

BTW – Red – thanks for the amusing link
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May 22, 2006 1:48pm
Craig Ranapia

George wrote:
This is so unfair on Bill English. Last time he was trying to keep a crumbling coalition in power, not replace an existing coalition!

I reply:
Um, in 2002 National had been in opposition for three-odd years. I know Bill and like the guy enourmously, but does he really want to be painted as New Zealand’s very own Kim Beazley – because that’s what Labour will do in a heartbeat. But please, if I was Brash I’d be rubbing my hands with glee. The more the left and some parts of the media talk up John Key or English, the more it stiffens the spines of the grassroots in Brash’s favour. How soon we forget – and some people develop selective amnesia – when the CW was that Helen Clark would be a well-done goneburger after losing the ’96 election… The best thing that ever happened to her was the increasingly hysterical, and disconnected from reality, personal attacks.
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May 22, 2006 3:42pm
DavidW

Best slogan I’ve heard for a while catchy, humorous, cutting “Real photos – real policies” Thanks Bob
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May 22, 2006 4:20pm
George

Apologies to all .. You are right Craig. But was the 2002 election one that National could have expected to win? Also with more experience under his belt, English seems far more dominant in that caucus now than when he was the leader?

It just seems that in John Key we may potentially have a junior Don Brash in charge. Not such a bad thing in many ways – but why not have a contrasting person next time with Key as possible deputy? Put Brash back to Finance, because that is clearly the only area where he is expert. Give Key a portfolio like Health or Education or Social Welfare where he can broaden his experience, just as English did.

Remember too that John Howard has very successfully recycled himself after falling out of favour.

Winston Peters seems to be hinting that Murray McCully and Gerry Brownlee are other options. In the former case, bringing the strategic brain up front.
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May 22, 2006 5:02pm

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